management is meant to ask a gentleman texas mr. cloud is recognized. quick thinking manager. thank you for standing around in working with us on our schedule today. our declaration of independence introduced into the world a profound set of ideals to be perfected in subsequent generations. there werend certain inalienable rights that were given to mankind. and they were not a grant from government but a gift from god. the declaration on the site among these were life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. it is notable that those ideals upon which the rest of the rule of law under which we live is all based on the first essential right as the right to life. with the dobbs decision in a single day millions gained about right that have been taken away .reviously if we look at the development last 50 years, i was born in 70 a couple years after row. ultrasounds were very brave. i asked momar for my ultrasound. there wasn't want to be found there isn't one. when rogue was being argued the dialogue at the time it was a blob of tissue. and we know so much more now than we did before. we know that a child at six weeks we can detect a heartbeat. we note thanks for showing us a child can feel the pain of abortion. there is a lot of misinformation that happened progress. the chair said the dog physician is undemocratic big two ms. holland the dobbs decision and if it is undemocratic or not? >> certainly for theco dobbs decision is not antidemocratic. it is an act of judicial modesty. it's a decision which the majority clearly explains the concentration structure and history are absently silent on the right to abortion. justice explained that means that we the people get to debate the issue, to decide the issue in the supreme court got out of the business of legislating abortion. >> if anything a restorative democratic process to the discussionis of abortion progres absolutely it leaves it to the people. >> that is my understanding as well. it was also said for outlying people whom braces are extremist, draconian is how this we heard about threats to democracy and also to things. we talk about extremism can you compare where the united states stands in relation to other countries when it comes to abortion? >> absently under roeac versus wade united states is on the most extreme and permissive nations on abortion in the entire world. we were one of only seven countries in the world including countries like china and north korea who have horrible human rights records to allow abortion up until the moment of birth for any reason at all. that is so very rare we are not on the right side of that. are there any state laws that would prosecute women for an abortion? rockstar not now. there are no state abortion laws no. >> any federal? we have heard a lot about that. could you speak to a topic pregnancy and abortion as we keep hearing that is an issue as well? >> thank you so much that question. think topic pregnancy's art issue as you said misinformation and social media post suggesting when it will not get treated for an ectopic pregnancy because doctors might be afraid of performing the procedure. but that's excellent balls. an ectopic pregnancy treatment for a topic is not in fact an abortion. andly abortion is the intentionl taking of human life. an ectopic pregnancy is a tragic situation in which the baby is developing outside of the loan. treatment for that is planned parenthood is recognized simply not an abortion. both you and i believe life begins at conception this is a questions of life ultimately that's what makes it so difficult and why this is such it is so deep-seated when it comes too this. when it comes to what subnormal and h2 hr 927. these bills among other things allow for abortion because of disability. whats the child is what race te child is potentially involved in a child's life. there is ambiguous language many who their faith dictates is not a proper thing to do to perform an abortion. what is troubling to me we thought from therf left wantingt to be rare supposedly to now elect taxpayers to fund it. not only in our country to pay for other people's abortion but also for abortion the judgment time has expire for. >> thank you foron being here today. >> gentleman from california's readiness for five minutes requeststs madam chair to enter into the record in his sock abortion progress without objection. >> before dobbs, even under roe americans who wanted an abortion were denied. the aaa study examines theer lis of hundreds of people were denied abortions and compare their experiences to people who got abortions. are you familiar with the turnover study? >> yes i am. clocksks and watches my whitebod to help americans understand what the study found. let's start with health. women are more likely to suffer from physical health problems, women who had an abortion or women who were denied in abortion. >> women who were denied in abortion. >> women who were denied in abortion. i in which women were denying abortion is not just correlate physical health and meets the financial. which group of women, those received an abortion or denied and abortion are more likely to be unemployed? >> for sure those who were denied in abortion. >> denied an abortion rate which group of women was more likely. >> to findn. those were denied abortions. >> and which are more likely to have low credit scores to have their application for housing, car loans denied? >> that were denied in abortion. >> to some women but the decision to have an abortion were not able to have an abortion. to make their ownde decision. they had a worse health outcomes, were more likely to be unemployed, or more likely to face financial problems like living in poverty arewo having w credit scores. women who were denied abortions are four times more likely to live below the poverty line for the less likely to be able to afford food and housing for their selves and their children. can you explain why people who were denied denying abortion are morere likely to have these poor outcomes and someone who obtained an abortion? >> he hurt abortion you are not having a child based on when you actuallywh want too. and what we know as there is a wide range of reasons people determine it is not the right time to have a child. it could bee that their health s not the reason that they want to have a child at that time. but it also could be because they are not financially secure, they are in a relationship where it does not make sense. there is a range of reasons. that is why it is so important decision be the decision of the person was actually pregnant. the person who's actually going to have that child whether or not they doat that. >> i completely agree. we should let people who are pregnant make the decision whether or not to carry that child, to deliver that child and to raise that child. i am a mom, i love my three children. i know firsthand the joys and hardships karen, birthing, raising and providing for children. including doingng it alone is millions of women do. that is why i believe so strongly should not have the power to force anyone to become apparent. it's not just a major health decision and is an economic decision for entire families including other children that person, that mother or parent may have. many women significant decrease in their income after having a child. income declined even further after the birth of additional children. many leave the workforce altogether to care for their kids. when extremist politician prevent americans from making their own decisions they force patients to give birth to children that they may not be able to care for afraid that they may not be able to protected ray safely. and that nay forced to grow up in poverty. we should live in a free society. america should have the freedom, the liberty to grow their families and they are ready to doam so. not birthing babies because of government mandates. i am here at home sick with college and caring for my two children alone. i doho not meet an american womn do not need politicians telling them when and if they should make the decision to raise children.in i thank you for your testimony and everybody onn this panel and i yield back. >> a gentle lady yields back. the gentleman from arizona is now recognized for five minutes. cook liked the chairwoman. i appreciate the opportunity to be heree today. this incredibly politically charged hearing. i know we get to have another tomorrow in fact the democrats are going five for five hearings five days effectively on this topic. democrats really are the abortion extremist relying on the strategy of fear that's really what itt is. i associate myself with the video those put in there i will say one thing mr. john was asking questions he forgot to ask the question about bounties put out by shutdown d.c. on supreme court justices. it is absolutely outrageous i'm not hurt anyny of my colleagues across the aisle, not one say hey maybe we shouldn't do that stop doing that. it is an incredible, incredible strategy. governor northam they are extremist. government north and said third trimester abortions are done in cases there may be severe information to be a fetus not viable. this particular example of a mother is in labor and content exactly what would happen. the infant would be delivered. the info will be kept comfortable for the infant will beat resuscitate that's of the mother and family desire in that discussion will ensue between thet discussion with the positn and the mother the outcome of that baby. i associate myself with the comments of senator rubio who said he had never thought he would see it day in america are back government officials who openly support open genocide. elizabeth warren, what didin she sayls? she set in massachusetts right now crisis pregnancy centers are people looking for printed her management help but true abortion clinics three -- when we shut them down in massachusetts. we need to shut them down all around the country. wow, that's from the liberal i've got a series of articles on that and i'm going to go through quickly fast.e this time goes by austria limits to the first three months into the rest of these are in weeks, croatia, 12, czech republic 12, denmark, 12, latvia 12, italy, 12, greece, 12, france, 14. you know what, america's laws before uvalde were the most this planet right up until the exit of the birth canal and what's happened since then the left is okay with this strategy. democrats have launched summer of rage. i appreciate someone said i have one dated june 9th, 56 attacks including one in bethesda over the weekend. pro-life pregnancy centers continue. this one is in hutchinson kansas. thein other one i will submit te justice department announced it has a reproductive rights task force and the threat from the left is that it can lose economic edge. that is what the times reports. this is a strategy of fear and threats and intimidation against members of the supreme court. it's a clinic on disinformation by asserting that it prevents abortion throughout the country. last question for you. can men become pregnant? >> biological women may become pregnant. >> thank you. i yelled back. >> the gentlewoman from missouri is recognized. >> thank you, chairman loney for convening this urgent hearing. within minutes of the far right supreme court decision to overturn roe and casey, my home state was the first state to enact and ban abortion care. the trans- men and non-binary people can become pregnant. the criminalization of abortion care has are ripple effect acros the healthcare and legal system. the majority of states where abortion care is now banned has threatened to enforce criminal laws that target healthcare providers for administering medication and providingem abortion care to those who need it. if convictedto with a sentence f up to 15 years and other states like texas include the possibility of a life sentence. i've heard from people in st. louis who told me they are afraid to cross the state line to access abortion care which they need because they fear being investigated and prosecuted at home. so many of these know that it's long beenig politicized which is happening in this moment and criminalized. people have been investigated and punished for struggling or self managingg abortion care. if it is banned and where it is legal and protected. a local prosecutor in california charged to women with murder because of their laws. i am concerned that far right extremists antiabortion lawmakers in my own state like the state attorney general may move to further politicize the rights and criminalized abortion care and pregnancy outcomes. unless we speak of more. until we organize to block the lawse, and protect the reproductive freedom. so can you please describe what measures are being taken to protect people in a rare state like mine? >> thank you for the question and for your work on this issue. to not use government funds to prosecute folks or to investigate folks should the law will go into effect that would affect the outlaw abortion so i'm glad that you mentioned about what is going on with criminalization because we also at the same time across the country they are hyper aggressive about bending and twisting the law and using others toe criminalize folks ad we do know that there has been an uptick of criminalization of miscarriages across the country. >> thank you, thank you so much for those insights and for what you do. can you explain how it creates a public health emergency? >> abortion care is both effective and safe. what is deeply concerning is if people are either afraid to seek medical care if they need it or if providers are killed if they are afraid to provide medical care not knowing the state of the law. the other thing we know is carrying a pregnancy to term. the mortality rates are extremely high. so none of these will do anything to aid that and will only worsen the outcomes. >> the undocumented people and the most marginalized in our society. we have an obligation, all of us to take care we find work for everyone we need to work in lockstep for the reproductive health care. >> of the gentle ladies time is expired. >> the gentleman from kansas. >> the supreme court decision in dobbs v jackson women's health was a monumental one. it signifies the pro-life americans across the country but most importantly the innocent unborn but make no mistake the ruling is not just a victory for the pro-life movement it's a victory for the constitution and for the principle of federalism. if you want to have abortion laws in this country tome your liking, elect officials that agree with you and pass it in the legislative body and states throughout w this country. that is the way to achieve it but let's not pretend it existed in our constitution in this country. and contrary to what some of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle say, this in no way endangers lifesaving care for pregnant mothers. the mississippi statute in question excludes procedures to treat ectopic pregnancies and miscarriages from the definition of abortion and they are nearly identical exceptions in every state that enacted pro-life laws. this protection of both unborn children and their mothers is what a consistent and compassionate ethic of lifed looks like. citizens have the opportunity this august to vote for the value of the constitutional amendment that rightfully reserves the right to pass the laws regulating abortion to the people through their elected representatives. i am a firm supporter of the change and hope that the momentum from the historic decision compels kansans to restore authority to citizens to decide abortion laws. i celebrate the impact of the decision and its implication for the sanctity of human life both for mothers and their unborn children. in your opinion why is the regulation of abortion better bosuited for the state legislatures van unelected supreme court or even a here in congress? >> the voters in mississippi are women andwe for those in mississippi they now have a voice and vote. they are able to tackle these difficult issues and we can allow women to express their opinions on this issue. >> there's been a lot of conversation among social media and by a pro- abortion organizationsto that warn women the government is tracking their activity across health apps and search history on the web browsers and will use that to seek criminal penalties related to abortion. did any of the laws include criminal enforcement mechanisms against women who seek abortions? >> know they do not. >> what would you say to women who were scared of criminal for ectopic pregnancies because as you know this is a real issue and real anxiety eveno among those that consider themselves pro-life but want exceptions. there is a lot of fear mongering. >> as you mentioned, every state's law has an exception for the life of the mother and this means doctors and physicians will be able to treat the mother with her life in danger similarly the idea that a treatment organic ectopic pregnancy is and abortion is simply false. it's fear mongering it is untrue. it's a tragedy that one in 50 pregnancies are ectopic pregnancies. women usually find out about this between six and eight weeks and it's a horrible circumstance but a treatment for that is not an abortion. there's no intend to take the child's life were to be worried as a doctor or physician or especially as a woman. >> what do you think damage is caused by this fear mongering? >> whether it's something that you longed and hoped for or something that's unexpected can be overwhelming. to have this additional fear mongering on top of that i think addsyo to that uncertainty. we need to come alongside women and support them and provide them the resources necessary for them and their children to survive. the decision is not only a lega victory but it is a rallying cry. we must become a culture that values life, women's lives and the resources they need throughout their pregnancy and beyond. >> if i could b get you to commt on this it was referenced earlier the vandalism that is being done throughout the country and the intimidation being attempted in my home state as i mentioned we are trying to pass both because our state supreme court wrongly decided that our 1859 constitution had a right to abortion, which is absolutely absurd. but we have instances in kansas right now are the churches are being vandalized. would you comment on that briefly? >> i think you're right the decision not only must lead to sathe american people by opposig the right to abortion but also state supreme court. so hopefully kansas can rectify that. as far as the vandalism -- >> the ladies time is expired. >> the gentlewoman from ohio. the gentlewoman from california, ms. jackie spears for five minutes. >> thank you so much for holding this hearing. let me say at the outset to my good friend and to others on the republican side yes, we deplore violence against pregnancy centers and justices and judges. we deplore violence against the institution we call the u.s. capitol. we also deplore violence against abortion clinics. and you have said nothing about the fact that 11 people have been murdered at those clinics. for doctors, to clinic employees, one security guard, one police officer and one clinic escort. last year there were 186 arsonso targeted at abortion centers. 123 acts of vandalism, incidents of assault and battery. stocking increased by 600% last year over 2020 and increased by 129%. suspicious packages by 153%. i didn't get one word from any ofus you announcing those acts f violence. so you have very selective memories. >> let me start by speaking about mothers. i am a mother that has abortion, 59% of the women inai the county that have abortions or mothers. they love their children. they want to provide for their children. across this country, women are ask