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FOXNEWSW The Five July 10, 2014



and the trans. the man seen here, and here, and here. i'm not interested in photo-ops says the man in retreat. there are no more pictures when the world has you weigbeat. the economy, the va, the irs on trial yet here you are, aloof and asmile. no more halos overhead, no more leaders to greet, no more athletes to hug, no bergdahls to meet. shooting pool as rome burns. at least for once that's a true photo-op. >> little dr. seuss there. you know, we've looked long and hard for pictures for photo-ops, because i wanted to find out if president obama really doesn't like getting his picture taken. we couldn't find many. except for these. >> so, eric -- >> just a few. >> is this right up there with like read my lips, and i didn't have sex with that woman, in terms of idiocy and kind of representing a presidency? >> i'm not sure. i think he -- in the photo-op so he doesn't have to go there. drink some brewskies, playing some pool. he likes to party, hang out. he doesn't do very well when he has to go down to the border and solve a crisis, because he doesn't have any answers. he's a lame duck president and he's doing what he does best, being lame. >> this raises a good question, dana. he didn't go to the border. is it because if he went to the border, so did the media. and you wouldn't bring all these other folks down here to see what was going on. >> what would be the problem with that? bring people down to see it? >> because it would look bad. so he went to a bar instead. >> i'm going to bend the photo-op. a presidency is a photo-op. let's go back -- i thought of one thing today. do you have the picture of ronald reagan at the brandonburg gate? a lot of thought went into this picture. mike bieber who worked for ronald reagan was considered like the guru of modern political communication. >> yeah. >> that picture was not just him giving a speech, that said this is the dividing line on good and evil. i'm the leader of the free world and i'm here to tell you that communism is going to end. that's what the -- that's that message. when president obama said he doesn't want to go to the border, fine. but when he's not interested in photo-ops, if that's true, don't take photos of night before when you're playing pool, and you're drinking beer, because every photograph is the message. that is your communication. so he could have gone to the border and actually used it in his favor. >> bob, why is that? does he just -- is he at a point that he doesn't care at all? because the fact is, it's kind of jarring when you're shooting pool while people are going nuts miles away. >> let's go to the reagan example. in that case, that's exactly right, it was a message that was well thought-out. but you didn't see the ugly side of communism behind that wall. i think if i were advising obama, it would be, i wouldn't go either. because you would get the media down there and you would get pictures of -- they're very disturbing. frankly, right now, the democrats don't need disturbing pictures. if they thought about it carefully enough, they could have scripted it in a way to make it positive. but i don't think they know how to do that very well. i defend him every day, and i try the best i can. but some days are longer than others and this has been a longer couple of days. >> did you like my poem? >> i thought it was well done. >> i worked on it all night. in my pajamas. >> are they flannel? >> yeah, they have footsys, and they have a little flap in case of emergencies. president obama hates small government people. so he kind of punishes them through inaction. he says, if you don't like government, why would you want me to go down there? >> i don't think he puts that much thought into it. but i think you're into something with the passive/aggressiveness with the border situation. it's like, all right, everybody's yelling for me to do something, i'm not going to do something. it's tremendously passive/aggressive. there is one photo, greg, that he didn't like. one photo-op that he wishes he wouldn't have taken. that's with the danish prime minister. maybe michelle is really the one that didn't want to take that picture. i agree, he should have gone to the border with governor perry, or at least gone to one of the immigration processing centers, and said, even though if it would have been disingenuous, i'm going to go inside, no photos. you watch into an immigration processing center, saying, i don't need cameras, your cameras are going to be taking pictures of you coming out anyway. then he can say after seeing what i stau in there today, tell those human stories, take the moral high ground away from republicans on the issue. and because he's so interested in politics anyway, he could have blamed them and said this is a humanitarian crisis. i've been here, and removed that one attack line that they have been beating him over the head with, which is, you don't care enough to go. >> the problem is, somebody said it, they expect him to go down there and come up with a solution. well, there's no solution that he's going to come up by going down there. the options are very few. i think he's taken the few that he's had. he's asked for congress to give money to do that. congress is pushing back. i think that's a mistake on their part. >> but the announcement this afternoon is that they're getting closer to an agreement, the leaders are. >> i think it's one of those situations that developed, like the middle east, you can try and try as hard as you want -- >> but last weekend, peggy noonan had a great line in her column, usually when you try to run out the clock, it's when you're winning. you don't try to do it when you're losing. he is the president for the next two years. the president of the united states. that's the foreign policy of the united states. there's another constituency that he could have talked to by doing a border visit. it's not the illegal immigrants, it's not conservatives, it was the government employees. the people that work for the government who are down there doing their very best. and a visit like that from a commander in chief would have probably meant a lot to them and shown them that he's listening to them, hearing them. they say he gets briefings all the time, but really, the message is borne out by the visuals. the only visual they have for the weekend is the pool playing. >> this could be another -- maybe they think about these things. they say, we've got this going on and the irs. how long is this going to last. >> run the clock is this. >> but the clock keeps starting over. they find the next thing to run it. >> that gets a shake and it's gone. >> the irs, the va, bergdahl. our attention span is so short. the va was huge. bergdahl, it was huge. isis crisis, everything. a couple days later it's gone. a couple days down the road are we going to forget about the border when the next thing bubbles up? if he goes to the border, he buys more news time, the news cycle lasts maybe a day or two. >> if i were him, i would go to mexico and ask the honduran president and el salvadoran president to say we're not going to do it anymore. >> or summon them to washington. >> whatever it takes. the three countries that are doing the most of -- the people are coming from there and saying, enough. it's your practices that are driving these people to leave. and you're going to have to get yourself right. or we're going to stop helping you. >> i want to get this sound on tape from senator coburn. we're spending billions of dollars of our money on all sorts of stuff for these children, to take care of them and get them back. he has an interesting message here. let's listen. >> what about the kids that are already here? 52,000 of them, by the end of the year is projected to be 80,000. we have to find a way to deal with the kids that are already here. that's mostly what the -- you know, half of the money the president requested today goes towards the kids that are already here. >> that's the wrong approach. put them on a first class seat back to their homes. that's $8 million. first class seat, one way, to each of their homes. >> does that make sense, just $8 million as opposed to a couple of billion? >> sure. but the government has become a big fat blundering behemoth that can't figure anything out. do you really think that $4 billion is going to be appropriated in the right way to get these kids back? if pr campaigns in the central american countries, what's that going to do. t you're just wasting money on something that, frankly, greg, the president could have made a very easy fix to get these central american kids quickly deported. it would have been a very quick fix to a change in the law. but the president -- and i believe he's so incompetent because he doesn't have the gubernatorial experience that bill clinton had, that bush had, that reagan had. governors actually have to do stuff. senators don't. he thinks like a senator. and his hope is just that the media will cover for him. as you point out these scandals, short attention span, he's thinking, maybe these will go away. >> there's a reason they left their homes, and the reason they don't want to go back. their mothers and fathers or both didn't want to see them killed. honduras is the largest number of murders in the world per capita. >> do you just send them on their own? coyotes? >> under that theory, we're going to take people from syria, we're going to take people from north korea, we're going to take people from all sorts of country, in africa. that theory is very flawed. >> what you're missing here, he doesn't want to send them back. he's not going to send them back. they're not going anywhere. and no one else is going anywhere. they will eventually assimilate into our society and everybody will get the message, come on over, you don't have to go on back. >> why send the kids back and put them in harm's way. >> they're in harm's way now. they are in danger, these young girls, of being raped. there's a major health crisis happening. i'm not sure that they're better off. look at the footage that we're seeing. it's inhumane what's happening to these kids. >> what about the u.n.? isn't the u.n. involved in the border disputes and repatriation? why can't they fork over the dough? >> it's our money. >> laundering the money. >> can we get a refund? >> can we all get a tax deduction on our taxes if we count these kids as de pen departments. >> i see the wheels turning. >> i'll take 5,000 dependents. >> i think reuniting children when possible with their parents is the best option. that's what we try to do here in america. if a family has a problem and has to go into foster care, there is compassion and empathy that we try to show to children. i think reuniting them with their parents and say, we understand why you were trying, it's not going to work. if you want to apply, here's the -- >> i'll tell you how far left i am. i would bring the parents to the united states. >> it's the magnet. the kids are the magnet. >> you said send them back. >> i said send them back, and in the alternative, it occurred that the alternative is to bring the families out of those dangerous places. >> i've been to south america, rio de janeiro, there's a lot of crime in rio, too. do we bring every brazilian that wants to come here, too? i'm talking about a lot of crime in the -- throughout the country of brazil. >> we shuck take them all? >> no. >> i think the blame game is getting a little bit tired. now it's thursday. i think people are sort of ready for leaders to come up with some sort of solution. let's just not try to assign blame. but he is responsible, given that he is the president of the united states. >> i agree with that. >> he has to do something. what i would hope is he could partner with the governors because they actually are the ones that have to govern and they need the federal government's support because it's a national border. they should be able to sit down and do that. >> i think you're right. i don't think he wants to send them wack, because i think he knows he would be sending them back to their death. the texas governor has a different account and you'll hear about it next. c'mon, you want heartburn? when your favorite food starts a fight, fight back fast, with tums. heartburn relief that neutralizes acid on contact. and goes to work in seconds. ♪ tum, tum tum tum... tums! president obama had to sit down, a showdown sitdown with governor rick perry yesterday over the border crisis. here was the governor's reaction after the meeting. >> i don't know whether he's inept, or there's something else going on. as i've said before. but the fact is, the border's not secure. the first thing i asked him when i got onto air force one, i said, mr. president, i really want you to come and see this. i said, this is important for you to absorb, as a father, but more importantly as the president of the united states, to see the humanitarian crisis. >> house speaker boehner is mad as hell. >> this is a problem of the president's own making. he's been president for five and a half years. when's he going to take responsibility for something? >> but most importantly, the american citizens are sick and tired of all this. the taxpayer has had it. listen to this houston mom. >> it's not right. billions of dollars borrowed from the white house to help feed and house them. well, what about the [ bleep ] kids here in our neighborhood, in our country? not just in this neighborhood, but in our country. all these kids, really? why can't they go back? i'm sorry that the parents are in poor living conditions, or surroundings or whatever's going on there, i don't care. i care what's going on right here in my own backyard, my neighborhood. am i the only one in this community that's out here that's watching the news this [ bleep ] morning? oh, my god. i feel alone right now in this. i'm very saddened by it. the. >> she's racist. because she disagrees? >> yeah, she disagrees. >> she's racist because she wants to send the kids back. >> exactly. i want to point out that civil rights activists should be looking at black neighborhoods, and look at the large groups, the support needed when immigrants come in, ignoring that concern. why would they ignore that concern. >> dana, your thoughts? >> in listening to her, because i only read it earlier and then watching it. this is another reason i think president obama could have gone to the border, maybe not necessarily to show -- i'm not saying he should walk through a detention center, but have a meeting with the community leaders just to see and hear -- presidents do this a lot. when there's a tragedy, the president of the united states goes and he's the shoulder to cry on. and people want to know, are you listening to me? can you hear me? and that provides him some breathing room, too, when he tries to work out some sort of policy response. because i think she's representing some moms and dads down there who are frustrated and concerned, worried and scared. it's different when you live on -- in a border state than when you live in new england or the mid-atlantic coast, or denver even. >> rick perry's fed up. john boehner's fed up. are you fed up? >> no. i would say, first of all, about rick perry, who is running for president. that was a campaign commercial he did. i checked with the break room and found he had been down to the border three times in all this. he is an overblown, loud-mouth, not very smart guy who took the president of the united states and made a photo-op for himself because he's running for president and he's going to lose. >> maybe he won that, if he got the -- >> yeah, we ran it here. that's a big surprise. >> and boehner got mad -- >> president obama played that little game, the photo-op game. >> what, little game? >> sat down with a couple of people in boston. >> little game? my point is, why is it always a game? it's always a game. even if it involves children. even if it involves taking away funds for truly american underprivileged kids. poor kids in those communities. this is going to take away resources from them. this is an issue that is not republican or democrat. the reason that rick perry is upset because he is legitimately dealing with this every single day. he doesn't get to get on his jet and fly back to washgton, d.c., and chuck beer and play pool. the republican party, every time there's a serious issue, like the debt ceiling, he backs them into the corner and tries to paint them as anti-war, anti-black, anti-kid. it's enough. it's enough. it will backfire. >> what's enough is for the republicans to start voting for some of this aid. >> you don't vote for this? you hate kids. >> after the president does all that, then he says, well, yes, it's totally screwed up on my watch, but what's your solution? you come up with a solution. at that point, you're like, you're the president of the united states, you set the foreign policy of the country. so we've got this crisis. he said he's seen it coming since october. i think that's what they're also frustrated about. the administration said we tried to warn you about this since october. if that's true, why do they need an emergency policy -- >> somebody said governors have to deal with this day by day. has anyone heard anything that perry's come up to deal with it? >> seal the border? >> you're the president, you find a solution. >> of course, the governor's there. they're very much for stronger border enforcement. they would probably support a comprehensive bill. but they don't believe that the border enforcement's going to be there first. that's the first step. >> has anybody been able to read the bill? we kind of know what's in it. there's like 11 million people who are going to become citizens. we don't know what the border triggers are. we don't know this stuff. >> can we do this very quickly? a sergeant sent back to jail, quick round on this. 100 days behind bars. maybe president obama should focus -- how about a photo-op there? >> completely shameful he's not spoken out on this. he's spoken about a player coming out of the closest in the nba. spoken on issues that are not serious as this. of the mexican government must be hilariously laughing. they're helping these central american countries traffic these kids over their border. and who cares? americans keep going to mexico, they keep spending their money. president obama keeps giving them aid. as long as he's checked out, why stop now. why release the marine. >> we did this discussion, and his parents said that the government was doing an enormous job trying to get him back. the mexicans are the ones that are going to get the black eye out of this. the mexicans have caused more problems with us on the border than any other country, and yet we try to pretend they're great allies. the mexican government as it now stands is an enemy of the united states. >> mexico's defense of this situation, or response to the media, is that mexico is a nation of laws. and enforce its laws. i thought, how clever, right? >> in mexico, if they threw me in jail -- well, i was drunk. >> maybe if the marine had wandered off and his dad grew a really neat beard. >> there you go. gotcha. coming up, is the media's love affair with president obama finally over? a lot of journalists are fed up. and demanding more access to the white house. andrea has that next. really... so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 dollars a month? yup. all five of you for $175. our clients need a lot of attention. there's unlimited talk and text. we're working deals all day. you get 10 gigabytes of data to share. what about expansion potential? add a line anytime for 15 bucks a month. low dues... great terms... let's close. introducing at&t mobile share value plans... ...with our best-ever pricing for business. if yand you're talking toevere rheuyour rheuma

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