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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - KGO - 20131210:10:05:00

mentioned earlier, as well. we'll be hearing later from a methodist minister. but nelson mandela even though a great moral area, not a particularly religious man. >> yeah, to his credit. religious confrontation that was brought about, he's like the present pope, an amazingly spiritual figure. nelson mandela is not a religious guy, but the moral temperature that he radiated was of a deeply spiritual character. spiritual means, look, i recognize that i'm a citizen on this planet with other people, i have to share space, and i have to share community and have to share love. and i have to share struggle. in that sense he forged the bonds more perfectly and perhaps more efficient ly than some religions due. even if it wasn't raining, perhaps it's global colored people time that represent the african and african-american and black global traditions for the

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131210:18:08:00

deeply, he's much more el quantity. for example, he talked about when he was a student and got involved in the movement to free south africa. i think that i've been hearing a lot of praise from that from south africans who really embrace him as their own. i think throughout the continent of africa, president obama is still widely heralded and praised and appreciated as the first african-american, that is african, part of africa, his father was kenyan as everybody tends to know, african-american, besides how he's faring in the united states he's still a son of africa. i think he feels that. i think when he feels something deeply as he spoke of trayvon martin who could have been his son, he is much more eloquent. yet there is the pragmatic side i said earlier, i said earlier, i thought some of the speech

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131210:01:32:00

distributor, producing movies that were illegal to produce at that particular time. and when madiba came out of prison, he gave him the book and gave him the rights to make the book into a movie. and it's taken all these years as a producer to finally realize it. it's an african movie shot in south africa, financed in south africa, and we did it. idris and i went to the country, and i lived there for a year, talking to the men and women on both sides of the struggle that they had former relationships with, so, the family, the daughters, men and women, the jailers, the men who were on b robbro robben island with him, so we could understand the story more fully. >> the immersion definitely comes through. it strikes me as the hardest thing to do as an actor, play an iconic, actual person, because there's a fine line between impersonation and acting, and people know what mandela looks like, what his smile was like, his voice. how did you approach that? >> i mean, there's no doubt, we

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131210:08:32:00

it's an african movie shot in south africa, financed in south africa, and we did it. idris and i went to the country, and i lived there for a year, talking to the men and women on both sides of the struggle that they had former relationships with, so, the family, the daughters, men and women, the jailers, the men who were on robben island with him, so we could understand the story more fully. >> the immersion definitely comes through. it strikes me as the hardest thing to do as an actor, play an iconic, actual person, because there's a fine line between impersonation and acting, and people know what mandela looks like, what his smile was like, his voice. how did you approach that? >> i mean, there's no doubt, we were so aware that i don't look anything like mandela, and we were asking the audience to make a big leap of faith for me. but ultimately, you know, one thing that i found in our research about mandela is that people talk about his presence, his aura, you know?

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131210:04:32:00

that particular time. and when madiba came out of prison, he gave him the book and gave him the rights to make the book into a movie. and it's taken all these years as a producer to finally realize it. it's an african movie shot in south africa, financed in south africa, and we did it. idris and i went to the country, and i lived there for a year, talking to the men and women on both sides of the struggle that they had former relationships with, so, the family, the daughters, men and women, the jailers, the men who were on robben island with him, so we could understand the story more fully. >> the immersion definitely comes through. it strikes me as the hardest thing to do as an actor, play an iconic, actual person, because there's a fine line between impersonation and acting, and people know what mandela looks like, what his smile was like, his voice. how did you approach that? >> i mean, there's no doubt, we were so aware that i don't look

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131209:07:20:00

appreciate that. what i want to make clear, though, we shouldn't call him militant, we shouldn't call him a terrorist, he's a patriot. he's just like the patriots fighting here many, many centuries ago for equality. and that's what he was. he was a patriot who tried to make sure that his country where he was born, where he controlled would recognize the fact that the majority of people who were african were suppressed by the minority of people who were white, and that has to be changed. he is a patriot who did a great deal in his 27 years in prison and did a great deal as president and continues to have that legacy as a patriot. i am a south african. i am an african, as he said when he got his honorary degree from harvard in 1998. that became a watershed moment of him recognizing who he was, what he was and who he's speaking for. >> but to all of you here in new york, it wasn't just that personal grace that allows him to say, i want to make a decision to forgive after he had succeeded. but there is a great deal of political pressure to, quote,

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131209:09:20:00

fighting here many, many centuries ago for equality. and that's what he was. he was a patriot who tried to make sure that his country where he was born, where he controlled would recognize the fact that the majority of people who were african were suppressed by the minority of people who were white, and that has to be changed. he is a patriot who did a great deal in his 27 years in prison and did a great deal as president and continues to have that legacy as a patriot. i am a south african. i am an african, as he said when he got his honorary degree from harvard in 1998. that became a watershed moment of him recognizing who he was, what he was and who he's speaking for. >> but to all of you here in new york, it wasn't just that personal grace that allows him to say, i want to make a decision to forgive after he had succeeded. but there is a great deal of political pressure to, quote, unquote, not sell out to the national government at the time which he had to resist and say, look, i've got a long view here,

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131209:09:35:00

>> what we're interested in doing is achieving the political objectives that desmond tutu has talked about, freeing mandela, freeing detainees. hopefully in the meantime we might get some international group who can go to south africa and look at the 8 to 10,000 detainees, some of whom have been reported beaten to death in the south african prisons. >> tom, this was a different time. cold war is what holds sway over our views. >> first of all, talk about south africa and the real consequences of apartheid. it was an unspeakable policy they had going. i was in south africa at that time, and an african who grew up in south africa, a person of color, had virtually no rights. not the sidewalk they walked on, certainly they couldn't vote. the law enforcement was directed right at them, the beatings that went on was certainly awful at

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131209:12:32:00

africa to join 50 world leaders to pay tribute to nelson mandela. george bush and his wife will join them aboard air force one. bill clinton and jimmy carter are set to attend as well. it's a big test for africa's government as they plan the memorial. 94,000 people are expected at fnb stadium home to the world cup final in 2010. 100,000 more expected in the area at overflow sports centers while many details were worked out well in advance politico reporting the last minute logistics for the secret service are daunting. the president's security won't have control over access and there are concerns on everything from the motorcade route to his safety once inside. meanwhile, sunday marked an official day of prayer across south africa but in church the scene was as remember celebratory as it was mournful. and a week after the deadly commuter train wreck in new

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131209:07:35:00

doing is achieving the political objectives that desmond tutu has talked about, freeing mandela, freeing detainees. hopefully in the meantime we might get some international group who can go to south africa and look at the 8 to 10,000 detainees, some of whom have been reported beaten to death in the south african prisons. >> tom, this was a different time. cold war is what holds sway over our views. >> first of all, talk about south africa and the real consequences of apartheid. it was an unspeakable policy they had going. i was in south africa at that time, and an african who grew up in south africa, a person of color, had virtually no rights. not the sidewalk they walked on, certainly they couldn't vote. the law enforcement was directed right at them, the beatings that went on was certainly awful at that time.

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