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we do have a system of laws in the country, and, big surprise, they're enforced. >> right. and that's the thing that kills me about the whole thing. you hit on it right away. they're running away from him because he is anti-black. but they stuck by him. put him in a bear hug when he was anti-american. i mean it is the federal government trying to enforce the laws which i thought -- folks like cliven bundy and all the folks on fox news and republicans were about law and order. unless law and order goes against people who you view as patriots. as, as heroes. when it goes, runs against everything that they say that they believe in, and everything that this country stand for. if bundy could get away with what he is doing. what tips say other people in other parts of the country stay you know what. if he can get away with it, why shouldn't i. maybe the consequences might be worse. >> yeah, that's what goes to this.
>> racist remarks made by bundy. >> quote i want to till you one more thing i know about the negro." >> i often wonder if they're better off as slaves. >> appalling statements. >> a racist at best. >> obviously a nut. >> what is dinner talk at bundy's ranch. >> rand paul. and dean heller who called him, quote, a patriot. >> he doesn't recognize america's existence. >> today republican politicians are running as fast as they can away from nevada rancher bundy. >> now it falls on lawmakers who saw him as a patriot after shocking racial remarks. cliven bundy was a phony symbol in the first place. >> bundy's 15 minutes of fame are infamy. >> a lot of people are going to be saying, who is cliven bundy?
around george zimmerman. a man who they didn't realize, who gets, gets in all of these -- troubles. because of the basically, pick their friends based on, who their "friends enemies" are. here, in this case. you have a lot of people in conservative media, so-called, i put that in quotes. quotes. they must be feeling very exposed this morning. >> yeah, they should be feeling very exposed. in fact, a lot of them are. a lot of them came out. and denounced what, what, cliven bundy said. senator heller did. you read something from senator paul. but, here's the thing. and, and, joe talked about this pattern. one thing we have to keep in mind. that what cliven bundy said its not an isolated statement.
he is not the first person from the right or even the first republican in office to extol the wonders and the virtues and the beauty of slavery. he is not the only one. which is why i think, it resonates so powerfully. what cliven bundy said is, is not something that is strange to people who have been listening to it and hearing it for years now. >> right. there was the whole predicate for that. eugene, jonathan, thank you both for joining me tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up good news for democratic candidates. david axelrod and howard dean are here for that. nearly 700,000 pages of documents from the irs could make a case for issa and his dragnet to eric holder's justice department. ♪ [ banker ] sydney needed some financial guidance so she could take her dream to the next level. so we talked about her options. her valuable assets were staying.
we want to have cooler head prevail here. and yet we would be remiss if we didn't acknowledge the fact that there is an interplay between what some of the conservative media were doing, and the fact that there were people willing to come out to his ranch, to, to play around ilt idea of an armed resistance and rebellion. don't we have to care about that? >> well, we do have to care about that. you know, look -- basically why was the right drawn to the story of cliven bundy. i would argue that it is not just that, you know, it is despite the fact that he was a clearly a deadbeat. he was sort of making a stand against the evil federal government and evil obama administration. i think, frankly, whose president means a lot here. and, and -- the symbolism of that. you know, this, this, rancher, this, western figure, who is standing up, to the, to the, glooms from washington its something that i, that, is attractive to, to that sort of,
and america is ready to discuss it. let's do it. >> that need to be discussed. the idea that america need cliven bundy any racist rants to have a discussion abut race, slavery or subsidies might be funny if it wasn't so enragingly offensive. bundy's hypocrisy in speaking out against government benefits when he is famous here for one thing, being a deadbeat rancher, stealing property and grazing rights from our public lands. might be enough to dismiss him entirely from any press coverage or attention if, if he wasn't already held up as a patriot by so many powerful conservatives in government. and in media. people who know better. today they are dropping bundy as i mentioned. but not because he was wrong, and violent and irresponsible. which was clear yesterday. today, they're dropping bundy because he has become politically toxic. and today, the man who may have done more than any one else to elevate bundy's cause now dismisses him as beyond the
the idea that america need cliven bundy any racist rants to have a discussion abut race, slavery or subsidies might be funny if it wasn't so enragingly offensive. bundy's hypocrisy in speaking out against government benefits when he is famous here for one thing, being a deadbeat rancher, stealing property and grazing rights from our public lands. might be enough to dismiss him entirely from any press coverage or attention if, if he wasn't already held up as a patriot by so many powerful conservatives in government. and in media. people who know better. today they are dropping bundy as i mentioned. but not because he was wrong, and violent and irresponsible. which was clear yesterday. today, they're dropping bundy because he has become politically toxic. and today, the man who may have done more than any one else to elevate bundy's cause now dismisses him as beyond the pale. >> his comments are beyond repugnant to me. they're beyond despicable, they're beyond ignorant to me.
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