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this country who believe we can be much smarter in how we approach these things than president obama was. >> do you think -- do you believe in climate change? >> i believe that the climate fluctuates, absolutely. sometimes we go through periods of time when it gets warmer and sometimes we go through periods of time when it gets colder. i do not believe that these carbon caps, taxing carbon and constraining carbon will result in much difference on the temperature gauge and i think every scientific study shows it. all of these -- all of these goals, if you actually look at the impact on the temperature, they are so slight and why are we shedding our jobs for tiny, tiny possible improvements in the temperature? >> matt, first of all -- i'm sorry. >> please. >> even tiny improvements, if we go 3.6% warmer, the world ends. so tiny increments -- >> that's not true. >> that is not true. >> that is not true. >> matt, by the way -- >> donny, you sound like a crazy christian preacher saying the
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clinton is collapsing, and as the previous smear, which is that he had been a muslim sort of running up against the fact he has a crazy christian pastor who is being attacked and hard to fit the things together. out of the muslim thing came this idea, first that he wasn't eligible to be president because his father wasn't a citizen and then when that kind of was legally false, that maybe he was born somewhere else. it wasn't a big deal in the 2008 campaign. it was a very minor thing. other smears and other that got more attention. after that election, there was this frantic drive, partly from people who supported hillary to write toe lectors, and ask them not to certify obama and when it really blew up. then it was kind of in another world of the internet for a year or two and seemed like the republican party had marginalized it, if not purged it and donald trump brought it to the forefront this year. >> did any name brand person in the hillary campaign have anything with stirring this pie
welcome back to "hardball." florida pastor terry jones who burned the koran last month and blamed for inciting violence in afghanistan, 20 were killed, was in court in michigan today and still in court fighting for permission to protest what he says is muslim law at a mosque there. here is part of jones' closing argument. >> i am protesting a radical element of islam. >> we are protesting a strictly islamic problem. sharia or jihad but we are not accusing that mosque or not accusing the people of dearborn and we are not accusing all muslims. we are speaking out against that particular aspect that we all
agree is -- is real. >> dearborn is not operating under sharia law and jones' insistence at demonstrating at the islamic center of america promoted an open letter to be written to the pastor. saying, quote. well, mayor jack o'reilly joins us now as well as the director of the moral courage project up in new york at nyu and author of the book "ala, liberty, and love." it's coming out in june. mayor, thank you for joining us. mr. mayor, that is the most amazing defense of a city.
opportunity for a platform. >> they don't like islam either. >> generally, i like the first amendment. the lights go o the bells go off all over the world the minute they hear that somebody -- the terrible term on the koran somewhere. people will escalate. whatever steps they are, how gross or un-american they are can achieve what they want. this pastor is smart enough to know what he says or burns a koran, people die and he made his point. what do we do with these cases under the first amendment? >> no magic bullet to this one. if there was we wouldn't be having this discussion, let alone, a debate. i think the best response to these sorts of absurdities is, indeed, love. i know that is weird to say on cable television. >> it didn't work when he did that. >> hold on a second. >> got murder.
is. time for news you can't use. mike barnicle is making me laugh. >> this is funny. willie's book. >> you can pre order right now, "american freak show" by willie geist. >> what was your favorite part, joe? >> beginning to end. it changed my life. seriously, that's like me telling you what was my favorite part -- what was the movie about jesus? >> like asking what's my favorite part of "passion of the christ." don't you say i never saw that movie. how can i do three months of that -- how can we do three months of that on "scarborough country" if i never saw the movie? >> right. that would be wrong. atheist person, what's your take? crazy christian lady, what's
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