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The Lead With Jake Tapper

scandal is a distraction. >> it is not about the left or the right. it is about students. >> reporter: close ally, governor ron desantis, advocated for education rights and law, looking at a don't say gay bill. it discussed sexual orientation and identity from public schools and curriculum. some parents and lgbtq+ activists, accused the couple of hypocrisy. >> the hypocrisy comes from the relentless attacks on lgbtq+ people. the public disparaging of our families and our communities. they themselves were simultaneously living this private life. the hypocrisy is just stunning. >> reporter: at an emergency meeting last month, party officials told us that

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Americas Newsroom

smart. that should be a model for anyone talking about this issue. he said i respect you. we all live under the same flag but oriented the conversation where it needs to be. culture war, don't say gay bill and gender affirming care. you can look at the "washington post" poll to the tune of 60 to 70% americans don't want sex taught in k-three education or want biological men and women in sports. the moment you change the language and talk about them as anti-lgbtq laws all of that in the polling flips. if the issues can be talked about the way vivek does. don't talk about them as culture wars but in the way we just watched. >> dana: i think the democrats think for them this issue, if you are an activist you are definitely voting. >> absolutely. enthusiasm. we're in that lull where people are saying i'm not interested in this. we're starting the presidential race and feels like we just had one. the burn-out.

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America Reports

vision speaks to the economics, social issues and foreign policy and you'll you have seen governor desantis do is social issues with glittered headlines but not actually shown how he will govern the country. the slavery is one example, don't say gay bill, parental rights is another example, six week abortion ban is another example of things he would do that says oh, wow, this sounds cool and interesting, now people are asking, can he run the biggest corporation in the world, the united states federal government and there are questions on that. >> is it good to pivot for the economy for him? >> absolutely. campaigns are not overly complicated as you know. desantis is wise in a state where it is seeing some of the biggest influx of americans moving to because of the quality of life that you can have, because of the job opportunities you can have, because of the life you can have in florida, as governor policies that he has helped put in place that have led to that and he should be talking about that.

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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

we could disagree as black people as well. i think what the bigger picture is that this is happening in florida. this is happening in a florida where you have a governor who has ananti-woke bill, who has a don't say gay bill, who wants to ban dei programs who wants to ban rosa parks. and children reading rosa parks or other academic books that talk about diversity of issues. i think at this panel we could all agree that slaves did not benefit from slavery. even if the citation said well they might have gotten -- they didn't have a choice so that is not a benefit. slaves did not have the freedom to choose if ron desantis, said maybe they could have become a blacksmith. not when they dent have the choice. and i hope in this moment when we have such a contentious

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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

handful of points is he in at that point? >> i just want to take a step back. the reason we have the legislation that we were just talking about with the bill in florida is because of the stranglehold that donald trump and this third, i guess, maybe part of the republican, the maga extremists have on the republican party. ron desantis has been trying to show that he can out-trump trump using his own record in florida to do that. that's why children are going to be taught that there was some personal benefit to slaves, and i think we have to take a step back and ask ourselves and the republican party has to ask, if that's who you want to be, and do you really want to stand up to someone that endangers the national security of our country and that present such a very real threat to our core values? >> you know, oi'm training for marathon right now and it's not going great, but part of the

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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

that it will be accurate. we can disagree as black people, as well. i think what the bigger picture is that this is happening in florida. this is happening in a florida where you have a governor who has an anti-woke bill, who has a don't say gay bill, who wants to ban dei programs, who wants to ban rosa parks, and now you have children reading rosa parks or other academic books that talk about a diversity of issues. i think at this panel we can all agree that slaves did not benefit from slavery even if the citation says well, they might have gotten -- they didn't have a choice, so that's not a benefit. slaves did not have the freedom to choose as ron desantis said. maybe they could have become a plaque smith, not when they didn't have a choice to become a plaque smith and that is what camma harris is saying. i hope at this moment when we have such a contentious

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Gutfeld

between empty platitude and science. science, the left loves that word until the left doesn't benefit their platitude. don't say gay bill, that is platitude, thatten moos not putting sex in classrooms. beloved science, dr. fauci, where are you? i did research for your show, national institute of health on their website, a journal article says the former male physiology of trans women athletes provides them with physiological advantage. if you are taking hormones, the testosterone during puberty affects you differently. my favorite take, megan rapinoe. david axelrod, she would be interesting politician someday if so inclined. i don't know if i would rather

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Alex Witt Reports

non-defense lawyer then 2022? >> i don't know where he gets these numbers now. 80 billion, as we had planned several months ago, we will spend 60 billion increase. that is what he is posted about, so i don't think his numbers are quite correct. >> look, some of these numbers are so tight it's a little bit of meant the magical gymnastics to get to some of these numbers. all in all, mccarthy spent all morning defending this bill, that he was able to negotiate. all while conservative republicans seem to slam him for this agreement on the other and. for example, can bucked it raised the fact that they will be looking into a motion today -- that is that concession that mccarthy made to some of the hard right members that could ultimately cast in his gavel. we'll be watching, that for sure. >> we thank you for doing so, julia, we appreciate that. okay, julie, sorry, julia was before you. we heard this morning from a former trump attorney who just resigned. he gave his take on what this new nbc news exclusive story

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Alex Witt Reports

>> there's a lot of worries. we were just talking showing the video there that chinese fighter plane that flew very close and front of the nose that the u.s. reconnaissance plane. you see, even the backwash from the jets of that chinese plane. i mean, the turbulence that immediately comes, right there, i mean, that is nothing to mess with. that's dangerous, dangerous situation. let me ask you as we switch gears, sarah, the fact the your among the democratic lawmakers who voted against the debt ceiling bill that -- what kept you from supporting net? >> well obviously i would've voted for it because default is not an option. when i saw that i voted over 300 men in congress that voted for it. i had a look at the substance of the bell. does this bill reflect our values, my values, and is it a deal for america? the substance of the bill was not -- approving the pipeline, and

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Alex Witt Reports

several hopefuls make their pitches to the voters in the first state with gop front runner donald trump notably absent. >> don't complain what you get in this caucus because it matters. >> we have a number of reports on this in the next hour, from capitol hill, to the white house, iowa. we'll go first to julie tsirkin, joining us from capitol hill. julie, welcome. what are you hearing from lawmakers today now that the president has signed the step deal into law? >> he, i will now that crisis has been averted, now we talk about what was in this ultimate compromise between the presidents, and speaker mccarthy. you heard from a variety of lawmakers on the left, on the, right in the center, what this bill meant to them. much of which, most americans will not feel the practical in packs of. there are some details in this, bill both that speaker mccarthy had to answer for today on fox news, and also, details that were publicans, like ken bakr you just heard from, also had to explain why he voted

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