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at that point in time right now both parties seem to have a hard time for a. >> what is the point in time? >> you start looking after super tuesday to find it with the lay of the land is going to be a lot can change in the next two months so let's wait and see. >> let me ask you about one specific policy pulling out in washington right now they're trying to get to a border deal sentiment negotiators are working on the clock on that. you have advocated for work permits for people who are here illegally. that seems to be one of the issues are having crunch times on. your gop colleague mike lee said this is how that tends to play out when you're giving up permits. next we will give you little slip of paper that says one day you'll be called up for an immigration hearing, i can't tell you when that will happen but it may be a decade or more. maybe 12 years for that matter before you get it. in the meantime have fun and by the way it was in short order if you wiyou will receive a work p. shannon: over the migration policy institute a senior fellow
at that point in time right now both parties seem to have a hard time for a. >> what is the point in time? >> you start looking after super tuesday to find it with the lay of the land is going to be a lot can change in the next two months so let's wait and see. >> let me ask you about one specific policy pulling out in washington right now they're trying to get to a border deal sentiment negotiators are working on the clock on that. you have advocated for work permits for people who are here illegally. that seems to be one of the issues are having crunch times on. your gop colleague mike lee said this is how that tends to play out when you're giving up permits. next we will give you little slip of paper that says one day you'll be called up for an immigration hearing, i can't tell you when that will happen but it may be a decade or more. maybe 12 years for that matter before you get it. in the meantime have fun and by the way it was in short order if yoyou will receive a work permi. shannon: over the migration policy institute a senior fellow
policy of this administration? >> look, you can add a border fence, you can administer border patrol, you can do other things, but if you don't address that pull factor, what brings people over here, and that is -- it's very simple. they know that they can get to the u.s. border, the border patrol is not going to push them back. they'll help them. border patrol is processing them right now, and then they're going to be released in the united states, wait four, five, suggestion years for an immigration -- six years for an immigration hearing and if they show up, 87%, at least the figures that we've seen for the last 25 years, 87% of them are going to be rejected. but once they're in, have is we seen any mass deportations? there's over a million final deportation orders right now. griff: congressman, i just have about 20 seconds, but i do want to ask you, finally, if there is a vote to impeach mayorkas as secretary, how will you vote? >> i'm going to vote no. look, you know, we've got to work with him. i know we disagree, but if congress puts the money and
states like texas and arizona and even florida have been going through for years upon years. >> yes, we understand that this is a burden and other cities in united states, new york, chicago, l.a., they all have the issue with the large number of people being released at the border ending up in new york, whether sent by the state of the come down their own. and it's not leadership in my opinion for her to go to the president and say hey, give us some relief hearings and theme to help regulate the shelters and build my shelters, but leadership would be that you need to stop this problem this problematic choice. you talk about what happened at the border, and the rio grande valley of texas has been dealing with this problem for the entirety of the biden administration and the root cause, people were to talk about the root cause, but that's the policies that this president, in which large numbers of people showing up at the border and then being released to come to a future immigration hearing which we know many of them will not go
if you tell people that if they come to the border and a third of them get released into the united states, you're not going to stop others from coming. another thing this administration did. we have the asylum accords with the northern triangle and migrant protection protocol with mexico. that was a sconce sequence. that meant if you came into the united states he will illegally then they sent you back into mexico to wait for immigration hearing or safe third country came from guatemala into mexico. you could apply for asylum there that is what was happening. that gave us 45 year lows on the southwest border. we have done exactly the opposite under this administration. >> this is the result of it. these people know, look at the sense of entitlement. the reporting says they are coming into the united states because they want to come here and work. they know that many of them, too many of them are going to be released into the united states they will be on this economy and we will never see them again. >> it used to be, ron, the only way you could get into the country with asylum you were being persecuted or, you know, a threat of death.
hearings there are reports people are getting cards and save got a hearing in 2025, 2027. 2035, 10 years are now. finally wasn't going to meet if someone crosses over the border, they give them a piece of paper you got your immigration hearing in a decade? >> you know the immigration hearing dates have never been a success story because the judges have always been overwhelmed. mayorkas should've known as a u.s. attorney. he should have known it when he was director of u.s. citizenship and immigration from his deputy secretary of homeland security enough secretary. so this goes back to the previous points of them being unprepared for this crisis in its entirety and their lack of planning has contributed to this and caused it greatly. eric: four mark per month security advisors dealt with this issue for a long time, charles good to see you thank you. >> you too.
to be tomorrow night at midnight. you know, everybody comes over d and then it's done. there are people in transit, they are in route. and you've got alland these cartels, trafficking networksre that are readyto to pounce on this and take advantage of it. look, here's here is the problem. this is a nation that has offered asylum to people for decades. on that ofbut there comes a poio a process is being abused and yop u have to put an end to it. we have to changfoe the criteria for asylum.r we have to change the crimasylu right now, people know if you come across the border and you ask for asylumyou , you trigger a series of legal procedures that are going to largely, for the most part, leret you get released intopendn the country pending an immigration hearing at some time in the future that many people don't even show up for. the word is out and it's prettyi clear , not to mentionon the disinformation that's being applied and told people that disig to night it'll be legal to cross the border. e an so we have e, inss essence, abot five or six hundred thousand people that are going to try to enter the united states . these are images we're useds ofp to seeing out of syria and outeo of places like that. we've never seen this in america before. and this, i think yesterday nume the number was eleven thousand. r is goingdooing t to double and it's really going to become i think we're headedtd
hearings, are you ready? there is a 10-year wait time. the next opening for an immigration hearing is ju june 2033. i colombia. pencil it into your calendar jose. try not to schedule anything for june 1st, 2023. joe knows none of these migrants are showing up in court. he knows they are not fleeing violence because they wouldn't be fleeing to new york and chicago. in a generation. texas is going to be a democrat stated and the republican candidate for president is only going to be able to look at the white house from the outside. every migrant can be just like the biden administration no one pays their taxes he swear swears he is on it and working around the clock cutting deals with mexico. >> is mexican doing enough, sir? are they taking enough? >> yes. i spent an hour with the president of mexico yesterday. he has been very cooperative. we're in agreement.
mexican marines there. are you happy with this collaboration and these decisions? >> no. it's frustrating. as you pointed out, brian. we had an agreement with mexico for the migrant protection protocols in which they would take back everyone who claimed asylum, who wanted an immigration hearing in the united states. all they had to do was wait in mexico. that led to 45 year low in illegal immigration across the entire southwest border. mexico under strong leadership out of the white house, deployed 25,000 national guard members. >> brian: it was a fear of tariffs. >> absolutely. closing the border. tariffs 5%, 25%. leadership in the white house that said this is a problem. we know it's a problem because lori lightfoot talked about it being a problem this week. mayor adams talked about it being a problem this he can would. it's a problem across the united states. and this white house refuses to do anything that makes it look
to our generation, what do you think? >> we got a lot of threats to our current and future generations. even if you take their climate argument, their policies are going the wrong direction. making us more dependent on opec and china for mining and minerals. we're consuming products from around the world that are produced in the worst circumstances where when we make it here in america. it's clean. there's no human rights violations. and it's better for the environment and the economy. and i don't know why they can't see that and why they continue to double down on not making us energy independent, although they say that, their policies are going in just the opposite direction. they are more focused on their woke culture than they are the job for the american people. that's why i say they have lost their way. >> todd: i think the important policies mentioned in ashley's question and your answer are actual crises. i would just add earlier in the show, we have the found bite of the immigration hearing about the grandmother and the child