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merrick garland and lisa monaco -- i guess the investigations are closed, why not demand to fulfill in a robust manner their oversight authority? >> yeah, you can't -- i mean, okay, it's an inspector general who is doing an investigation and i am very aware of the process and procedures around those investigations. but that -- nothing keeps anybody else from investigating at the same time. now, there are rules in the senate about issuing subpoenas in the judiciary committee. once again, we spent a lot of time talking about the power of the minority in the senate. there is going to need to be a republican, hopefully more than one, that realizes, this isn't about donald trump, this isn't about republicans, this isn't about the midterms, this is about the rule of law in this country and whether or not a department of justice can go after the president's own lawyer. i mean, for get about the
the air. if we break it down, we know that mitch mcconnell took to the senate floor today. he basically said, this isn't about republicans. we're out of it. this is about democrats and the president so if we look at that, the democrats and the president, the mind set is that the vice president is here meeting with chuck schumer moments ago, a quick meeting. i want to read you a meeting. the vice president came in and made an offer. unfortunately, we're still very far apart so that does not sound like two people, who groups who will make a deal any time soon. but in addition to that, this meeting came after chuck schumer really weighed into the wall. he said no bill would ever pass in the senate ever, ever, if it mentions a plan for the wall so where is the president? is he going to blink? well, any indication from my inbox is no i got a fundraising e-mail that title was help build the wall. so this could go on for a very
republicans are mad at me. i'll be fine on this come november. >> and they're thinking about this isn't about republicans on capitol hill. we know where they stand. they're not going to do anything to try to und cut the president's authority here. this is about the retaliation, playing chicken, whatever you want to call it, is something they're engaged in for the long run, and they're not going to be deterred by any distractions. this is something they believe is a fight they not only want to engage in, but a fight that anybody else who sticks to trade issues, people who have been involved in these issues for a
vocal about their displeasure here. that's a healthy sign this has risen above the normal bickers because this isn't about republicans and democrats. it's about the people who gave every one of us our freedom. they deserve the first fruits and we should make sure we honor that. >> should there be criminal investigations for the fraudulent recordkeeping? >> if it leads to that, sure, but i think we need to presume that it may not be criminal, but it may be and if it turns out that people acted in a way that denied the rights of veterans to what they deserved and they fraudulently made up records, then yeah, that's criminal prosecution, people need to go to jail for that. that needs to be a clear example to others that you can't abuse the nation's most honored heroes and get away with it. you shouldn't be able to fraudulently abuse any american taxpayer for that matter.
u.s. leadership around the world over the last year, eight months. so kind of think of this speech as everything the president has been trying to say over the last year and hasn't been able to because of the distractions from edward snowden, from ukraine, from syria. and so this is meant to reset that narrative. he was in afghanistan over the weekend. announced the troop levels. he's going to be going to europe next week as well to continue this messaging. >> there's been a lot of criticism of the president's foreign policy and the white house's push back often is use troops or so military force or send military equipment into syria, do it hear, do it there. their argument is done, that was done in the bush years that is unreali unrealistic. >> there's a group of republicans particularly in the senate where the president is never going to be able to convince them. >> never going to believe able to convince them. we'll see if the president mentioned the va scandal.
pr your perspective, what does the president need to do today? michelle kosinski put it well today. it's almost trying to balance in his speech almost seems like mission impossible. >> he's gotten criticism over the last few months. the idea that he has looked weak, lacked credibility on the world stage. >> on that point, peter, how does he push back on that on even if it is just perception, perception at some point seems to become real lity when it com to this. >> look at ukraine where a lot of criticism is focused in recent weeks. we have a legitimate election in ukraine. the russians seem to be moving troops away from the border. the let of russian invasion has receded. the russians accept this new leader. we have a better prospect than we've had in months. i think american sanctions and leadership deserve credit for that. >> two sides of the coin. republicans say that economic sanctions while they've been tough against vladimir putin has done little to stop the violence
republicans. and he described the president's position as kind of like mission impossible. he faces a public but sometimes clamors for more, that doesn't like his foreign policy which he felt in somes cases was justified where rhetoric doesn't always meet action. but it's always a public that is risk averse. he says the president just needs to say what he means and mean what he says. kate? >> looking for that balance, almost an impossible task. we'll see you later this morning. michelle, thank you very much. coming up later on in the show we're going to talk more about the president's foreign policy speech and hear directly from the secretary of state john kerry. breaking overnight. president obama trying to keep hope alive on comprehensive immigration reform ordering homeland security chief jay johnson to delay releasing a review of deportation policies until the end of the summer. why? well, the administration is seeing a narrow window in june/july where congress could act before shifting focus to november's midterms.
>> we're only talking right now the president's approach for foreign policy towards afghanistan. it will be interesting. everyone is looking forward to hearing his approach, how it may change towards syria and also the extending growing threats from places in the middle east and even reaching into africa. a lot of eyes will be on this speech this morning. got to at the time your guys' take on bit waiting in politics in a different way but i found it interesting. michelle obama really taking to it republicans wading into politics in a way she hasn't before on the issue of school lunch. paul, why is she taking them snon. >> we sh says she's reacting to this as a mom, as well as a first lady. of course, she has made nutrition and healthy kids the focal point of her service as our first lady and what's going on is -- there are in part because of the first lady, tough new, wonderful new, healthy new nutritional standards in the school lunch program. now a congressman from alabama has said he wants to maybe slow
walk them or scale them back and, of course, alabama, great state. i love alabama. the second highest obesity rate in america. the motion of one of obama's congressman is trying to slow walk the first lady's of for thes in obesity is offensive. so good for her. i love her this isn't about republicans. paul is quick to out rage. this is about local school nutritionalists, regulations, surprise, sure prus.
billion a year. we only sent $6.4 billion on head start for our own at risk preschoolers in america. it's going to be a tough sell after 12 1/2 years of war to say cia, yeah it's over, but i want another $20 billion and 10,000 troops. >> kevin, does he have a point? the president made that similar case when he made the speech in manila. the president said you hit singles, you hit doubles, sometimes you hit a home run. why is it that everyone is so eager to use military force? he's talking to republicans. why republicans always so quick to criticize and so ready to put more troops in? >> republicans want to see this president layout a vision for afghanistan that is consistent with a larger foreign policy objective. that's one of the criticisms that you saw from folks like kelly and senator mccain yesterday that this drawdown is because of a political calendar versus it being part of a larger national security policy. so i think that's something that