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however, as americans look at their paychecks and then recognize hey, i have got to send my kids to school. i have got to pay my mortgage, i have got to live my life. >> jamila you said we can't criticize pelosi because of her gender? do you understand what a ridiculous argument that is? make that argument, please, i promise you will lose and we will keep our majorities. that's absurd we can't criticize her because of her gender. >> yeah. she deserves criticism, if she deserves criticism. what i'm saying, however, this is a point that the republican us will do well to listen to because if you miss it, you lose. to criticize the fact that oh this woman, this woman, this woman, there are a lot of voters, a lot of women voters and a lot of men voters who are tired of that trope. >> no one is saying that except you. what we are saying is she shut down the government for illegal immigrants. what we are saying she calls the idea of giving american people their money
you as you a republican here. i wanted to ask you is that a good strategy in the president says in the midterm elections we need to hammer the democrats and he says republicans need to tie all the democrats who didn't vote for the tax cut plan to nancy pelosi. good plan? >> absolutely. let's be clear here. nancy crumbs pelosi has an approval rating languishing in the 20's and 2010, $50 million was spent by republicans tying democrats to nancy. nancy is the face of the democratic party. she is the person who still wants to shut down the government for illegal immigrants, putting the american citizens' needs aside. nancy pelosi is a face of the democratic party. can i promise you. this the rnc is tying every democrat to her coming up in the mid terms. ainsley: jamila, the democrats are criticized a lot for the same old same old. nancy pelosi has been a leader for the democrats for a very long time. some people say new fresh blood needs to come in. what did you make? what were you talking about at the water cooler maybe
>> have you got to be honest here. >> jamila,. >> have you got to be honest here. >> i'm happy to be honest. >> let me make a point here. the point of this is that in telling history, we have to be accurate. >> yes. >> in telling history. for instance, you stated in the past when it comes to the church and to civil rights that humans did the work and the church was not really a part of it the church keeps african-americans as you put it in mental slavery. that's your opinion. charles barkley is entitled to his opinion. i'm entitled to mine. >> absolutely. >> so is every other american. >> that's not what we're talking about here. >> we have the perpetually pissed off this n. this country. >> yes we do. >jehmu, jamila,rather, do you sy rights? >> i guess. i haven't really thought about it i support the rights of everyone. >> those in our history who opposed gay marriage at one point, then they should be
filled, rather, and it by doing -- by removing the plaque of george washington it makes everybody feel happy and comfortable and gets those coffers filled, that's what they are going to do. it's their right to choose it. brian: should we lose our founding father in order to make everybody happy? >> let's do it. let's make jamila happy. >> jamila. >> what we are doing here, look, the president is right. the dishonesty in the debate is to remove history period. do we not tell it. to jamil, i would ask this question, if we were to apply the logic of the at the pet actually pissed off which is what we are getting when are they going to protest at mosques because muslims owned slaves, mohammed observed slaves. jamila if did you go i will go with you. i have a national radio show and you can talk to the nation. but you won't do it. they choose easy targets. >> no one invited me. i would happily do that. >> they choose easy targets like the church, ignoring
the fact that it's about history and nothing else. and for those that are offended by a plaque somewhere in a church, there's going to be something that offends you about the church in general so you had best leave the church, period because of the history of religion. >> sure. absolutely. brian: jamila, let me ask you, i understand you don't want to upset people. >> i have never been invited to come on and protest against mosques and muslim slave owners. i would happily do that don't act like -- this is the first i have heard. [talking at the same time. brian] brian: believe me no one is going to a mosque wanted to protest mohammed and slavery. last time they made a cartoon they started shooting people. there would be no america, jamila, without george washington. it's not okay to make people feel better about themselves. here is charles barkley on the whole debate dating back to when robert e. lee and what he was like -- how he feels about it. listen.
removed from the public square applying the logic of the pet pet actually pissed off and that would include martin luther king jr. and barack obama because at one time they were against gay marriage. at what point do we. >> because telling them that. >> we are not static as a society. there is evolution. there is time and mill and when the protesters go back to africa where blacks also sold slaves, protest everybody equally or none at all, but the hypocrisy is clear to most rational americans. >> hold on, if we are going to talk about african slavery vs. the puke area institution chattel slavery in the u.s., those are two completely. >> who soldiers the slaves, jamila? >> there were a lot of -- let's look at england. let's look at france. portugal. >> jamila, did blacks own slaves in america, have blacks owns 3500 slaves down in louisiana at one time. either you apply your logic across the board or the fact
>> i'm not going to waste my time trying to worry about these statues they got all over the country. i'm 54 years old. i have never thought about those statues a day in my life. i have never -- i think if you asked most black people to be honest, they ain't thought a day in their life about those stupid statues. brian: jamila, where do you stand? >> i'm no basketball expert at all and i know that's the area of expertise that charles barkley comes from. he certainly doesn't speak for all people of african dissent in america. that's his opinion. that's what he thinks. i'm not 54 years old so i don't have the length of time to think about these statues. to be honest, i think this is one little tiny church in alexandria, virginia. they decide that they want to remove a plaque from their pew, it's not erasing history. it's one church making a decision about the decor.
been around for 28 years. i have a great relationship with them. i worked with them previously after the shooting tragedy in orlando when i worked with them before. that was for the victims of the family and i -- what i like about it and again, don't let the options paralyze you from giving. unisef is your bag, great. hispanic foundation is mine because i know where the money goes and they use the money intelligently and very non-for profit and work with organizations there and no contact with the mayors. so they go -- >> key figures. they have been getting the most sort of intense ground eye view that's often been through the mayors. >> the mayors who are -- i could tell you, the mayor knows his constituents by name. he was my aunt jamila's classmate. it's that level and understanding of where the aid is going and how to get it there. that's why i work with them and
>> hispanic federation.org and been around for 28 years. i have a great relationship with them. i worked with them previously after the shooting tragedy in orlando when i worked with them before. that was for the victims of the family and i -- what i like about it and again, don't let the options paralyze you from giving. unisef is your bag, great. hispanic foundation is mine because i know where the money goes and they use the money intelligently and very non-for profit and work with organizations there and no contact with the mayors. so they go -- >> key figures. they have been getting the most sort of intense ground eye view that's often been through the mayors. >> the mayors who are -- i could tell you, the mayor knows his constituents by name. he was my aunt jamila's classmate. it's that level and understanding of where the aid is going and how to get it there.
jail time. message to the looters don't do it or they are going to catch you. brian? brian: crisis reveals character and some don't have any. thanks, griff, appreciate it. meanwhile, ainsley. ainsley: thanks, brian. it's one of the most iconic scenes in a movie, watch this. [rhett, if you go where shall i go, what should i do? >> frankly, my dear, i don't give a damn. ainsley: now gone with the wind has been pulled from annual screening at the historic orpheum theater. joining us is lawrence jones and radio talk show host. hello to both of you. thanks for joining us. >> good morning. >> good morning. jamila, i will start with you, because i know you are in favor of them removing this movie. i wanted to find out why you are. do you feel like it's racially insensitive. >> a movie glorifying slavery is always going to be racially insensitive. my issue here is that this