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be successful. secondly, how surprised were you meadows did this? a lot of legal analysts were taken aback, that he'd expose himself in that way. >> first question first, jonathan, i don't think it is a frivolous motion. i think it is plausible. i mean, the supreme court has laid out a three-part test to get a case -- laid out a three-part test to move a case from state court to federal court. the first part is easy. mr. meadows was a federal official. i think the third part is easy at this stage of the proceedings. he has a colorable federal defense if it gets removed. the second part is hard, and that sort of centers around the notion that he was acting within his appropriate role as a federal official. he was doing things that federal officials ought to do. the reason i think that's hard, jonathan, is what he was doing here was try to interference in a state election. he had his political hat on, i'd argue, not his chief of staff hat on. does it succeed?
>> because space is a relativel small share of the economy. it is relatively easy for another country to leapfrog the united states. >> but the u.s. does have significant advantages over tim the first of all it has multipl international partnerships to leverage and also robust privat sector as evidenced by the spacex build rockets on the pad behind me. >> fingers crossed. jonathan, back to you as the news warrants. thank you. >> intimates real news roundup in new study finds paper straws are not much better than plasti straws for the environment because they contain higher amounts of pfa's or forever chemicals meaning they take forever to break down. they have linked to liver issue and birth defects although it remains to be seen if your
they are in their concern cans. griff: jonathan, i've only got, like, 15 seconds, but i want to give you the last word. >> i'm not worried about a book called pride puppy damaging any kids' brains as they grow up, and i think more kids need to learn how to read and write, and we should be focused on that and get more of that into the classrooms. griff: all right, jonathan, chris, thanks for the deep dive. i personally believe that this is probably going to be an issue on the campaign trail. we'll see as we move forward in the election, a year and a half away. thanks, guys. aishah? aishah: want to get to a fox news alert now. seven people are in the hospital this morning after a shooting at the caribbean festival in dorchester, massachusetts. officials there on the ground are reporting several arrests. they've also recovered multiple weapons in that scene, in that area you see there, and they are telling us that shooting victims are said to have non-life-threatening injuries. we're going to keep track of
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story as it comes through the day. more now on the fall in energy prices in england, wales and scotland. the energy regulator, ofgem, has announced a new, lower, price cap for energy bills from october. the typical household bill will fall by £151 to £1,923 a year. the drop is because of lower wholesale gas prices, but average bills will still be higher than they were two years ago. let's talk tojonathan bean, policy spokesperson at energy for all. he's been helped by fuel poverty action whilst himself experiencing fuel poverty. jonathan, thank you so much for talking to us today. and if you don't mind first of alljust telling us, if you don't mind with your experience, what does it mean to experience, what does it mean to experience fuel poverty?-
down. it is fun to watch them sit. >> steve: that's one of the requirements. i heard -- brian, talk to the governor here in a minute. apparently they made a provision if you want to, governor, because you have the torn achilles, can you sit down during the commercial break. i don't think he did. you could see he was walking around. speaking of walking around, brian, you have people behind you. walk around and talk to about the big show last night. >> keep in mind, locally, it's 5:25. these people are dedicated. they have a big day ahead of them they all stayed up until about 11:00 eastern. what's your name. >> jason. >> what was your thoughts. >> vivek responded well to the attacks. he performed beyond exception. >> brian: you chose, you don't want to be on camera, actually she liked vivek too. is it safe to say that. voice off camera liked vivek. what's your name? >> jonathan. >> you guys look so much like. can you pan the table are you guys related. >> yes. >> do you get along. >> pretty much. >> brian: were you allowed to stay up last night?
they have him preparing to take fire from all sides of the de debate. they put emphasis on this debate for him to demonstrate he is the front-runner in the trump alternatives. there's a lot of candidates trying to break out, as well. a lot of them have a lot more experience on a debate stage than desantis. it will be interesting to see if he can stand up to the lofty expectations his campaign has set up for him. >> jonathan, would you like to join us? >> i'm going to walk in. they put me in the corner. >> no one puts john berman in the corner. >> they didn't want me distracting you. >> can we discuss, how you take over, when we are talking about ron desantis, he has one of his coaches that we often have talked to in previous cycles.
>> the mall was the big hangout. >> i met my husband at the mall. >> so did i. >> it has played a pivotal part in our lives. >> for the marcell sisters, all six of them, along with their brother, jonathan, the cottonwood mall in albuquerque was the center of their social lives. 17-year-old brittani worked at a sunglasses kiosk. >> she is this blue-eyed girl with a big eyes and a striking smile. >> life was simple good, until september 11th, 2008, brittani just starting her senior year of high school had planned to meet her mom for lunch. >> i opened the door and i saw her favorite pair of sunglasses
>> let's be honest, ron desantis's campaign is flopping and flailing. he along with others are pretty much auditioning to be the vice president. that's why you don't see them really going against donald trump. you have a few of them like governor asa hundreds and, and governor chris christie, that are there to stop him from becoming the hot nominee. but they don't have the chance either. what i would say for rhonda scent is is that it's a bit too late for him to pivot from his extremely radical record. he should try to do what he can to end up as the number two in the tica. >> jonathan, what with that receives has in mind. the nomination is one state by state, delegate by delegate. if you look at national polling averages from 5:38, trump's nearly 40% ahead of his closest competitor, ron desantis. do you expect candidates at the debate are gonna focus on desantis to get more attainable second place spot that the sand is apparently is going for? >> i think so.