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The Chris Wallace Show

on the border. would a shutdown at least show their voters, you know, we're fighting for your principles? >> i mean, this is what i -- i don't know that it's the crazy party. i think there's many members of congress in the house, on the republican side, who actually feel that this is insane and are tired of this. and they've spoken out against the freedom caucus. i think that that particular group, though, is willing to take things to the edge. their entire message is about if we don't set things alight, nothing's going to change. that is the message to the -- to the voters, that is the message to their own party. so i think we're going to be seeing this over and over again. i really do. >> they're going to lose. people in regular life have to compromise every single day. and when they see this going on and the government shuts down and people aren't paid, it is bad all around. and they will lose the message like kristen said. they will lose what the point is versus -- >> let's talk about the big picture here, unfortunately, that's not governing, that's

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The Chris Wallace Show

dangerous. and so, indeed, does the family of george carlin whose daughter says she finds it disrespectful. i think we're going to see more of this. the fact that ai is taking over and being able to represent people in ways they don't want to be represented -- >> after i knew you were going to say this, that people would be interested, it's an audio, not a visual. here it is. >> you know how much americans love reality tv? we love it so much, we elected a reality tv show host as president. [ laughter ] well, not we -- i was dead at the time. so you elected a reality tv show host as president. >> i got to say i'm not sure that sounds like george carlin. but it's an interesting and somewhat troubling development. kristen? hit me with your best shot. >> i love a good red carpet. the good news is if you love awards shows, the "golden globes" which were a week ago, they actually had pretty good ratings. bounced back after a tough 2023.

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The Chris Wallace Show

departments don't have to respond to everything. and i think what has to happen is they have to know when it's swatting or if a house keeps getting called. some people they call regularly. it's one of these games that they do on these online sites, and it's -- highly dangerous and traumatic to the people subject to them. >> and kristen, i mean, yes, it's been going on for a while, but there seems to be a new momentum to it. i'm wondering is this kind of a symptom, a dangerous mix of the growing polarization of our politics, as well as the dark side of the internet? >> what's so dangerous about it is if law enforcement shows up, they don't go what's going on. if you have somebody doing a ghd job but they're trigger happy, there have been bad, devastating consequences of swatsing. that's not today that political violence is new at all. you had the horrible shooting of gabby giffords, you've had -- you can about -- you can go back and find people with real mental illness who have tried to harm

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CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield

course, this is adding to all of that. the big question is, how can he -- or if he can actually turn people out. particularly, because he has had to cancel three of thundershower f -- four events she was meant to hold. seeing how this was playing out, it seems to be a unique situation we're experiencing this weekend in iowa. >> unique indeed. thank you so much, kristen. let's go to you, jessica dean. you're following governor ron desantis' campaign. he's already held his first event of the day. what'd he say? >> reporter: well, fredricka, perhaps nobody has more on the line here in iowa than governor desantis. he's staked so much on this stake, and their whole game plan is to allow iowa to launch him into this primary. they are looking to monday for a very strong second place. obviously, they want to win, but if they don't win, they want to come in very close to donald trump to really make the case that december nesantis is the ae

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Erin Burnett OutFront

they have pulled back all ads spending on attacking ron desantis. they are expressing confidence. i was told by one senior adviser sure, it will impact some undecided voters. but it's not enough to change the trajectory of the race. we also got a memo put out. they said it was confidential memo, written by their pollster to the campaign heads, put out by the campaign that said this isn't going impact trump winning in the state. but, again, as we know, they have been concerned about nikki haley. they are watching those numbers carefully. they are looking at the tabs in every single poll. as we have reported, erin, the team that is around him right now is one of the most disciplined to date, which means they are analyzing data looking through this, and there is a reason they are spending so much money going after nikki haley. so it's certainly not all a celebration tonight. anderson? >> kristen, thanks very much. with me is david axelrod and scott jennings. david, if the former president is publicly crowing about the

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Anderson Cooper 360

continually outperformed donald trump in new hampshire. it's a purple state. it is a state with a heavy independent. and by the way, it's an open primary. independents can turn out. democrats can vote. so i do think that there is a lane here. it's to turn out people who are not the ones who came out for trump, but who are active. >> he is the man for the ages. >> crushing it. there is glide paths. sununu comes out and you want to air walk. >> to kristen's point, chaos is trump's brand. he is not rung from it. he is embracing it. and chris sununu is playing expectation management. downplaying. we're not looking to win in iowa. we don't really care. so expectation management very important, because if she has a poor showing, she is toast. you heard chris christie say that. she's putting all her eggs in one basket. clearly new hampshire is a big win, big strong second finish. it's not a win to go to south carolina. >> and a final point. you got just two people on stage tonight. two people in all the time. it's a lot of pressure, and the first time they've been in that situation. >> well, they're both governors. so they've definitely had the

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Erin Burnett OutFront

evangelicals. but they're also key for governor desantis. he has been working them and really pushing that pro-life message in his view. i expect he'll do so again tonight on stage. but the evangelical vote is hardly monolith. the voters we talked to throughout the year, some support haley, some support desantis, but a lot do still support trump. and it all goes back to the supreme court. it really person after person really hold him responsible and thank him for the three justices that helped overturn roe v. wade. but there are also many independent thinkers out there. some are eager to move on that. will be a key question on monday night, how strong that evangelical vote is for donald trump. and it could determine how strong ron desantis is also on monday in iowa. >> jeff zeleny, thanks very much. erin, back to you. >> all right, it's just fascinating to hear that whole conversation. everyone back with me. kristen, you know these voters. you heard the pastor tell jeff zeleny, the evangelical voters are the pathway to victory in iowa, that god is with you even

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Erin Burnett OutFront

they believe it's a top issue in the granite state. trump has complained both privately and publicly about haley who served as ambassador to the united nations under his administration. calling her disloyal. >> nicky would sell you out just like she sold me out. >> reporter: haley for her part has also sharpened her attacks on the former president. >> chaos follows him, and we all know that's true. chaos follows him, and we can't have a country in disarray and a world on fire and go through four more years of chaos. we won't survive. and you don't defeat republican chaos with democratic chaos. >> internal polling had haley rising in iowa as well. a senior trump campaign advisor insisting to me today that their strategy has not changed. they say that donald trump has always said he would set his sights on whoever is in second place. and now that appears to be nikki haley. erin? >> thank you very much, kristen.

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Fox News Live

perspective here in our state, that's more than the population of pittsburgh and pittsburgh is our second largest city. >> it actually over 300,000 migrant encounters on the southern border. i spoke to senator fetterman right before president biden's speech outside of valley forge and the president has been here to the keystone state more times than any state since becoming president, outside of his home state of delaware where i am today, griff. griff: lucas tomlinson live for us. alicia. >> the supreme court announced their plans to hear the battle ban case. joining us is never back down, erin and kristen. and good to see you. griff is going to look at the legal aspects and we're going to talk about the political implications. beginning with you. >> there are a couple of

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CNN News Central

>> and kristen, obviously, donald trump while he is on the campaign trail is still dealing with the spate of legal issues facing him including 14th amendment cases, and where are things standing there? >> well, that is right. we have two new filings there, and one in illinois and one in massachusetts, but the most important part about those filings to point out is that why this is so likely to eventually going to the supreme court is because all of the election systems are different, and there is a lot of questions being asked as to what exactly this means, and how exactly this can be done. for example in illinois, that filing went to the state board of election. in massachusetts, it went to the massachusetts ballot law commission, and as we know in maine, it was the secretary of state who made the decision and the courts in colorado, and all of this is really gearing up for the supreme court having to weigh in, and that is what trump's team is expecting. i will tell you that as i have said time and time again, the legal team believes that trump is going to be on the ballot in all 50 state, but i have heard

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