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today the biden administration's executive action to limit the number of border crossings officially took ifect. it shuts down most asylum requests once daily encounters pass a certain threshold. some of this is similar to actions taken by president trump. the deputy director of the aclu's immigrant rights project who successfully sued some of trump's policies said it was illegal when trump did it and it is no less illegal now. joining me is the deputy director of the aclu. lee, great to see you. let me just first, if it was illegal then and illegal now, is the aclu going to file a lawsuit? >> we are going to sue for sure. the time sergeant in the works. but that will definitely happen. >> i want to get your thoughts
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family fleeing persecution because of their religion. they don't enter in the right place, we will tend you back. that is really a dangerous proposition. >> immigrants are the backbone of our economy and i wonder if there has been enough defense of the role they play in propping unour country. >> and think about the immigrant you know. and do they fit the narrative that the trump administration or president trump is putting out there? that they are all gang members? national security? they are not and you know it when you think about the immigrants you know. i think the polarization has led us away from basic solutions. like pathways for workers: more asylum officers to screen the system. force people's hands. >> let's not forget our shared humanity and shared fates. thank you so much, lee. it is really helpful to get your perspective. really complicated issue.
more important than one man, whether it is donald trump or joe biden. >> steve: i love the way you started it out. you were talking aboutureiomother and american extensionalism and she interview up in the segregated south and yet to her, you make sure america exceptionalism not by power of the military, on our values. for you, the core is all about value. >> absolutely. and as my mother and my father, but to your point, that greatest generation focused on values and my mother was an english stories. she told stories about john adams defending red coats after boston massacre and talked about grants and how he was able to show grace and compassion through a defeated lee and mcarthur and the japanese and the berlin air lift and marshal's plan.
workers and more immigrant workers. so let's create legal pathways. and by what i mean by a balanced approach is right now i think if you ask the american people we know that they say immigration is important to them, but if you said to them, well, a family is being persecuted and may be in grave danger because of their religion, they come and they want to seek refuge in this country, should we at least screen them if they're being persecuted based on their religious beliefs? most people would say yes. this current law does not even screen people for asylum if they enter in the wrong place. people don't always know where to enter and the cartels don't allow them to enter at proper places. there is not enough spots to apply at a port of entry and it takes months. so, let's have a balanced approach, we speed up the screening, we have a streamlined process. >> lee, lee -- let me ask you, lee, it isn't a banning of
asylum. this executive action is not banning asylum. but it is the responsibility of the federal government and of the executive to define and execute what immigration policy is and is not in the united states. i'm wondering, lee, you know, it seems as though failure from washington means that the ones who were determining and executing immigration policy are the cartels. and you see that all this means it is further exploitation of human beings, men, women and children. so where does that responsibility lie, lee, and who is responsible for acting on immigration? >> right, so i think that's a fair point. what i mean by banning is i mean banning people that enter between ports from applying for asylum. and congress has been very clear that you may apply for -- regardless of where you went, people can't always get to a port and very few spots, so it is overwhelmingly going to ban
he wouldn't resign if he loses, but it would put him in a difficult position, especially during a uk general election campaign. mr gething maintains he's not broken any rules and didn't know anything about the criminal investigation until it was reported by the bbc. now those labour mentioned sacked by vaughan gething and lee waters were not in parliament yesterday and do not in parliament yesterday and do not have a proxy vote granted for long—term absence. so it looks as things stand that he will still lose the vote and if he does so the opposition parties would call for him to step down less than three months into thejob. it him to step down less than three months into the job. it does him to step down less than three months into thejob. it does not seem to be going to plan for vaughan gething. a russian group of cyber criminals, known as chillin, are thought to be behind the ransomware attack on hospitals in london. a critical incident was declared following the hack on monday — which affected computer systems
really, what matters is how their message in that debate last night translates to voters. we are in the constituency of lee and atherton. it was for many years a very safe labour seat, which switched hands in 2019 to the conservatives. it is part of the so—called red wool which the labour party is hoping to win back. well, at this cafe, it opened in the early 60s, back when harold macmillan was prime minister. we have had quite a few prime ministers since then. linda, you own this cafe. it is very nice to be here. tell me what you thought of the debate last night. l tell me what you thought of the debate last night.— debate last night. i watched the debate last night. i watched the debate last _ debate last night. i watched the debate last night. _ debate last night. i watched the debate last night. i _ debate last night. i watched the debate last night. i don't - debate last night. i watched the debate last night. i don't really| debate last night. i don't really find them a very good thing to be americanised and all the shouting that they— americanised and all the shouting that they do at each other. there was about— that they do at each other. there was about five or six points that they— was about five or six points that they were — was about five or six points that they were speaking about. it is not
was the one who obviously made that dirty play. >> caitlin clark, she got as a reputation a certain reputation. she's bring it to the table, but instead, a lot of them have just lower the discourse by resorting to very lazy stereotypical gender stereotypes by using the word petit, using the word jealousy resentment, all these things that are commonly associated with women in terms of describing our unsupportive behavior. and if we want to keep it 100% real, a lot of these characteristics did they keep thrown out there that these players supposedly field because my thing is show me the evidence. wright player, are you talking about because that's what i want to know. >> because you keep saying i'm sure there's resentment and probably ye shall be quotes. that's what i'm saying. and so my thing is knowing that black women make up 70% of this lee, black women are unfortunately stereotype of being aggressive, confrontational. all those things, they keep throwing these trigger words out there and people have suddenly reduce
numbers derbin, lee low especially to many who fought for the right to democracy. >> well, i'll tell you a lot fastest government for about show many years and find out what its flag democratic freedom has been particularly hard hit in parts of asia and eastern europe hungary got total overwhelming parliamentary support for extraordinary powers and for the prime minister orban to rule by decree or ban has been explicitly named and explicitly seen by a part of the republican party as a model why? because he took power. he undermined the independence of the judiciary. he took over universities. he undermined or capital matured quite a lot of the media through manipulation, through financing and by doing