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was five people in total who negotiated their bond agreements. it just stands out. i mean, scott hall is actually a bail bondsman. the other people here, they're all attorneys. they're typically on the other side of this criminal process. but now, you know, they're subject to bail agreements that typically they were negotiating. >> yeah, this case is certainly like no other, including the identities of the 19 codefendants here. you know, it's new territory for everyone. i think as long as thibodeau was saying, if fani willis and her office and the law enforcement folks are professional about this and do their best to streamline this procedure, i think everything will go as smoothly as it can, given the divergent members. >> this is pretty expensive. racketeering cases famously take a long time. it's a lot of money. obviously trump has his own legal fund. kathy latham, one of the

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they haven't really done the process here. these criminal cases are going to be complicated. and with each complication, the costs skyrocket. >> another person who is charge heerd is mark meadows, obviously trump's former chief of staff. he's arguing in a new filing that the charges against him, he believes, should be dismissed. he says he should have immunity because he was serving as the chief of staff in this official role, setting up meetings with state officials. is that something that a court would buy, you think? >> i think ultimately it will fail that argument. but there's some facial appeal to it in the sense that he wasn't really running this show, right? he's the chief of staff. he's doing what he's directed in terms of this plot. and a lot of what he was doing, as alleged in the indictment, are things that are not necessarily inherently legal in terms of setting up meetings and making calls and those sorts of things. i think ultimately a judge will decide there was a line that was crossed when they went from challenging the votes, getting

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be president. 58% say that. do you agree? i remember we talked before. you're a solid trump voter, right? what do you say about that? >> i am, martha. yes, nice to see you again and you as well, kellyanne. obviously trump has a base. trump's base is the most loyal base on planet earth. he has the strongest people behind him honestly regardless. we have to remember, these attacks and these accusations and these indictments and the 400 charges, it's incredible. but the truth is that the actual being attacked here and the target is not donald trump. it is us. it is americans. he's just in the way. so we can look at all of these polls, i know you love the percentages that are out there. i think until we get down to election day, they're all just polls as we remember with hillary's fireworks show that was cancelled. so i think until we get there, we have to remember these

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also be going into twitter's database get evidence of those tweets, and to prove that it was president trump himself that sent it. i think it is -- there's a complication about was account. it's pretty widely believed that overtime, many different people have had access to the real donald trump account, because you'll say the things that are obviously written by president trump and the things that seem to be written by aides or campaign workers. and so what they want is the data that only twitter has, that proves this tweet was sent on this phone at this time at this location, which would be strong evidence it with president trump himself who typed it out. >> and those tweets that immediately come to mind our, we'll be wild on january 6th, that pence didn't have the courage. because the whole shed light on -- maybe things that weren't sent, maybe drafted, not actually isn't? i don't know if he ever wrote a message to people on twitter -- but that's an option to people -- as well. >> those are things that the prosecutors --

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court filing reveals that they special counsel jack smith got a search warrant to access former president trump's twitter account, this past january. prosecutors sought to keep that warant secret fromrump, and a d. c. court ruled in their favor, saying, quote, they were recently grounds to believe that disclosing the warrants to former president trump would seriously jeopardize the ongoing investigation by giving him an opportunity to destroy evidence. twitter, which i should note, is now known as x, initially resisted that warrant. the company was fined $350,000 for the delay and was forced to turn over the records, which they eventually did in february. let's talk about this with cybersecurity expert alex stamos, who is also facebook's chief security officer. obviously trump's tweets are public information, you can look at them. but what would a search warrant

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there could be drafts of tweets that he wrote and did not send. thinks he wrote and deleted right before, or that are still in his draft folder. there's also the possibility of -- it's pretty widely reported, president trump didn't use dms too often, so i don't see that as extremely likely. i expect this is mostly about being able to prove it was president trump himself and not one of the many people who hate someone had access to his account, that sent those tweets of interest. >> until today, this was secret. trump, i believe, found out about it or his legal team found out about over the summer. twitter was fined $350,000 because they didn't comply with this immediately, didn't meet the deadline. they were arguing, basically, they should be able to inform trump and his legal team about it because they believed not doing so violated his first amendment rights. is that pretty standard for a company like twitter to take that route?

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he was blessed, i mean, he was sort of being performative online. he is directing statements to the fbi. i know you are watching, i know biden is here. he has the motives, he has the means. and they also know that he is highly armed. and those three things would then trigger something much more, then you, know some one posting online or they don't like biden or they don't like the vice president. >> yeah, i mean, they had been here in march. he saw them, he told them, don't come back. without a warrant. but i think it is hard to ignore here is the backdrop of the climate that we are living in, which is this heightened political polarization. i mean, trump obviously has been indicted three times. he railed against the people who are enabling those indictments every single day almost. i mean, what is the correlation in what this looks like now, and if there is an uptick in violence? and violent threats like this? >> absolutely, the fbi director has said so. has said that he has never seen it in a threat environment like this heading into the election, especially targeted against people, running in targeted against democrats in particular. when we see the online chatter. even though there are attacks against republicans. and it's just that we are looking a quantity at the stage. so people think about incitement, like you know, the former president trump might say something and people go off and do something. it's a little bit more complicated than that. how i would describe what trump is doing in some of his language, some of the language we are hearing from other

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get the special counsel the public doesn't have access to? >> there is a boring explanation, and a couple more exciting possibilities. >> we want the exciting ones! >> okay, the boring explanation is, it is not uncommon for prosecutors around the country to send search warrants to social media companies for public content, just so they can have a good strong chain of custody and they can prove, in court, this was something. as you've pointed out, the president trump tweeted on january 6th, they have been report voted on in the media -- was a prosecutor is going to want the ability to hold up the witness who can say, definitively, these tweets came from this device at this exact time. that includes the three that were deleted. one of the key things that's happened here, when president trump's account was reinstated by mr. musk after his takeover of twitter, the tweets that were most inflammatory on january 6th did not exist. so i think part of it might

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of this data. possibly also included the integrity of data on president trump's phone. i think that's one of the interesting questions that hasn't been asked. could this be a broader search of devices, other search warrants we don't know about yet? that would be a normal part of the prosecution for this kind of evidence -- you would not be looking in the cloud, but you will be looking at the devices. because they will have other pieces of data that are available to twitter. as for the fine, twitter did fight this, but they also just had mess ups. if you look at the appellant records, when the search warrant came out, it is the first time they try to upload the warrant to ask twitter. footers law enforcement -- partially the story here, all of these layoffs and firings. their getting rid of skilled talented people at twitter. mr. musk has broken basically mentally, such as having the ability to handle sort warrants. >> there's so many different threads, alex thank you for

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