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the world's oceans. our hearts are with our families, during this tragic time. we grieve the loss of life, and joy, they brought to everyone they know. i mean, there's going to be, again, a lot of back and forth in terms of what information was shared. the types of resources that were used. but i think you heard anderson touch on this, those in the maritime community really taking this very hard as these men were explores. they were dedicated to the world that they lived in. this is something that is going to be hitting a lot of people very, very hard. >> devastating outcome. jason carroll, thank you. throughout all of this, we have been talking to the oceanographer and deepwater search expert, david gallo. his friend,.p.h, one of the lies -- david, i first wanted to say,

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and say this must be the same event. >> does that make you think that there was a design flaw with this? when you hear that happen that quickly after they had already started this dive on sunday, what does it tell you about that? >> i'm not an engineer. but p.h., who is as good as anyone -- he's not an engineer either. when he says this is safe, this vehicle is a safe vehicle, i have to go with p.h.. there's going to be a lot of people commenting about how this was a bad idea. bad design, untested. almost everyone i know, that have been around as long as i have been in the ocean, game as taken some risk. they did end up look like this, fortunately. i can't comment. it's not a vehicle i would've gotten, into is just not my kind of thing to get into a tube like vehicle. i do wonder about that too. this was a tube. most submarines that i know about our spheres, you had

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a way that he is there now. he knew that place better than any other place. it's his favorite place on the sea floor. working that debris field beneath him was where we were putting our efforts into this artifacts preserving the legacy at the titanic, and now he is there. all of that kind of stuff will be running through my mind. it is going to be tough, certainly tough for all of our loved ones and family members of the other four people, but i have not begun to process that, and i know other people in our laboratory are feeling the same way, still that bit of shock, also the bit of acceptance because this could have happened -- we expected something like this to happen at some time, so we had to get through it and move on in his honor to finish the work that he began. >> well, david, we are thinking of all of you, all of your coworkers, everyone who knew ph and thank you for joining us

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are full of surprises. it's a very hostile place to be. so, somewhere in between there, something that could've happened to any summary or this was a fundamental design flaw. it's gonna be the truth or closely to the truth about what happened in this case. >> your friend, ph, had been on more than 35 dives to the wreckage of the titanic. he talked about his experience. he loved going there. we heard from james cameron, obviously, the director of the titanic diver himself. he described him as this legendary submersible dive pilot. we're showing this photo now, the two of you from 2010 in newfoundland, st. john's you think look at that you think back on this. what do you remember most about ph? >> oh, boy. there's so much. we've talked -- his family, the company that we

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work with -- our amiss titanic inc. about how much we are going to miss him. he was a pain in the butt. -- parisian café. he was just unflappable. but always had a twinkle in his eye and a smirk, always up to trouble. so, that's going to be the stuff i miss most. but we've lost some incredible explore. and this world of exploration, especially marine exploration, is no lack of egos. and p.h. was, aside from all that -- he is not a person that wrote books, made movies or start stored in documentaries. he just did what he did for the love of what he was doing. that is something that i will misses well. >> given, clearly, that he had such a love for the titanic and to be able to go out there, as many times as he did, dozens of time, what does that say to you? >> there's something poetic in

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here every night in such a difficult time to talk about this and for joining us here tonight and, of course, our condolences for the loss of p. h.. >> thank you, thank you, kaitlan collins. >> absolutely. up next, we'll speak to the cofounder of oceangate and what his thoughts are learning about this. also later tonight, we'll have an update for you on presidential politics and the seemingly always growing republican field. let's go on again today as another congressman will hurd usher in the 2024 race. he will tell us why next.

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and then there were people that were, you know, we were more in the middle and trying to figure out either way what was actually, you know, the best ruling of law in this case. >> spell your last name. >> neis. >> sophia. with a p-h, neis. >> i'm 23. >> john: there is one of the jurors in the ed sheeran case talking about what they were given in terms of what they had to make a decision on and they came back with a not guilty that ed sheeran did not steal from marvin gaye's "let's get it on" for "thinking out loud." one thought here. >> if you ask me to sing, john, i'm out of here. >> john: i won't ask you to do. interesting case. >> it sure was. >> john: and based on the pharrell williams and robin

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