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of people are thinking. >> look. right now it's going to be a long count in terms of we are in the ring with this president but there is a lot of fierce opposition to what the media does and supposed to be doing. we are supposed to be unafraid but on the policy basis, forget the personalities, the policies of these administration. would you agree? >> i would agree. it shows three hours and may need to go to six. there is so many strands every day. yesterday in the briefing, sean spicer was asked repeatedly if there was massive voter fraud according to the united states shents this be investigated? sean said, we will see. moments ago the president has addressed in a tweet, the first of at least two. the first one says i will be asking for a major investigation into voter fraud including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and dot dot dot. so more. you will see if he calls for a major investigation.
policy basis. and that's what people are waiting for. >> so let's talk about this. i want you to stick around and be part of the panel. also joining me, patricia murphy for the daily beast and bob kusak, editor in chief of the hill. so i've been looking. donald trump has a partial tweet. and it seems to have to do with this ethics within the congress, that congress has just gutted. and he's written only half of it. and this is what it says. with all that congress has to work on, do they really have to make the weakening of the independent ethics watchdog as unfair as it -- and then it ends. i'm not sure what to make of that, bob. you want to take that? >> it's certainly not praising opening day of the republican congress. and i think this is very interesting because members on both sides of the aisle had been critical of this ethics watchdog. why? because they've been investigated. this ethics office was supposes to keep things confidential but
white house and coming from the clinton campaign they are making this about more than trump trying to say that other candidates who are running for the republican nomination are saying things that are maybe not so flamboyant as trump is saying but on a policy basis they are similar so you are seeing painting of the expire republican field as essentially donald trump on this particular issue. >> turning new to ben carson who is finding out that being in the lead or second if the polls comes with added scrutiny. there is controversy about his v with west point and he said repeatedly that he had received a full scholarship or been offered a full scholarship to west point and there were indications he never even allied. he is what he said and how he end forked to the media scrutiny >> i was offered a full scholar ship at west point.
>> i think the whole point is that we're looking at this the wrong way. it's not whether joe biden will get into the race. it is how. he is clearly already running for president. he is doing all the things that presidential candidates do. he is positioning himself within the democratic party as earth the alternative to bernie sanders or the alternative to hillary clinton. >> what's the hold up? well, the hold up is really -- what i think is it's really what's the path? and one clear path is whether hillary clinton stumbles. and that is why i think biden ultimately becomes an official county and not a shadow candidate, it's going to be an incredibly messy race. his campaign will be predicated on the argument that he is more electable than hillary clinton because on a policy basis they're basically running in the same lane together. they're center left democrats. >> i want to point out a tweet from one of you. i thought it was pretty clever. the sweet sounds of elevator music. roll it.
ken blackwell. people like me tend to like this guy. that's probably why people like you don't. because i think the hard conservatives have a hard time with a guy that says let's move on from the same-sex debate and not keep arguing that one over and over. and to think that medicaid should cover people near working poor and not just ultimate poor. and believes that people who come here illegally should have a chance to come here legally once they're here because they're here anyway. your thoughts? >> well, chris, i think john kasich has been a very successful governor in the state of ohio, and he won his last election by 38 points. but on a policy basis, he's going to have to make the case. there are hard working decent americans that believe that our borders are porous and that this is not only a domestic problem, it's a national security problem. there are good and decent people who are concerned about the
held there in cleveland. ken blackwell. people like me tend to like this guy. that's probably why people like you don't. because i think the hard conservatives have a hard time with a guy that says let's move on from the same-sex debate and not keep arguing that one over and over. and to think that medicaid should cover people near working poor and not just ultimate poor. and believes that people who come here illegally should have a chance to come here legally once they're here because they're here anyway. your thoughts? >> well chris, i think john kasich has been a very successful governor in the state of ohio and he won his last election by 38 points. but on a policy basis, he's going to have to make the case. there are hard working decent americans that believe that our borders are porous and that this is not only a domestic problem, it's a national security problem. there are good and decent people who are concerned about the
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start seeing a harsher attack on the clinton years and on hillary. i think it's, in a sense, kind of natural. do they regret some of the gushing rhetoric? priebus may want to dial back some things. and, look, i don't think the electorate is necessarily going to remember what someone said a few years ago about bill clinton. there is a lot of stuff, though, on a policy basis and a political basis that people could use to attack hillary. i don't mean the sex stuff. there's a lot of l solid politician decisions, policy decision decisions that went on in the clinton years that could come back to bite hillary. >> but it's so -- >> if she runs. if she runs, right. it's so striking to me. to me the time frame is a little more -- you talk about democrats and reagan and there are some differences there. one difference is more trunca
why pueblo. president beat john mccain in this county by 15 points. economic message resonates here. here is why. 38%. population is hispanic. hispanics have average unemployment rate two points higher than at least than the national average. here overall in pueblo unemployment is 11%. you can imagine what hispanic unemployment is here. mitt romney will drive home the message of jobs and economy in pueblo, in an effort to counter those perceptions that have been created by the obama campaign. >> i think the president's campaign focused its advertising in many cases on very inaccurate portrayals of my positions. they have been very aggressive in their attacks both on personal basis and policy basis. as time goes on people will realize those attacks are not accurate we'll be able to have a, a choice which is based upon each other's accurate views for the
>> it's strange because you talked about this argument almost like an idealogical argument, but the strange thing is you haven't seen emerging out of this a strong idealogical or policy based argument. you don't have candidates saying mitt romney has this position, i take this position, let the voters choose. it seems to be partly a personality based dispute, that we don't really trust or get this guy. >> they don't trust him based on the policies that he has implemented or advocated as governor of his state as a presidential candidate before. there is a policy basis underneath all of it. there's a lot of personality involved as well. >> to get to alex's question, i don't think there's actually a pattern. you have races where the tough fight has made the candidate better. you have races where the tough fight ended up with a poor candidate, bill clinton had to deal with jerry brown all the way through the spring of 1992. and bill clinton was a great