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mayor of new orleans. thanks so much for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> so you think the protest and unrest is not the real story. the real story here are the underlying conditions that have led to this. go ahead. tell me. >> yeah i think the underlying conditions are something that have to be part of what we talk about and what we act on because in post-recession america and as the recoveries brought jobs to the american mainstream inner cities are being left behind. the joblessness levels are far too high. particularly among young men and young men of color. and these issues combine with friction and police misconduct are a dangerous mix for america's urban communities. and it's in baltimore, but this is a challenge of the nation. >> we have a graphic to illustrate what you're talking about. let me show you some of the statistics in baltimore. the poverty rate in baltimore is 24%. the unemployment rate for black men in baltimore between the
entire city after a quiet night. the night before not so quiet, protest, rioting, looting and burning down of buildings. today the city is trying to clean up, recover, but there will be a baseball came at camden yards with nobody in the stands. so a lot of work to do ahead. joining us democratic congressman elijah cummins of maryland. good to have you here. i know you have been out in the streets. steel has been hoping to get in on the conversation. michael, i'll let you take it from here. >> hey, congressman, good to see you. >> good morning. >> i really appreciate your presence and your word from the streets last night and over the last few days and as i want to sort of follow up on what we were just talking about, what actions are you prepared to take now in the wake of all that has happened here, working with the state and delegate the senate and delegate members who represent those affected areas of baltimore to redirect and
it's time for the must reads, baltimore deputy minority whip in the maryland house of delegates has been active in the protest since freddie gray's death and before this week's violence. also from walling, a columnist and associate editor of the washington post and msnbc political analyst, michael steel, still with us here. let me read this by tim swift of the bbc and open it up to our guests. baltimore's dual identity explains the unrest. why baltimore? to understand why you have to understand that baltimore is actually two cities. one is a city mired in decline and poverty made famous by the tv show "the wire" another is a
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left with nothing after their businesses have been looted and destroyed. peter, what can you tell us? >> well, mica we know that two atf teams are actually en route in this direction arriving overnight to help investigate more than 140 car fires, 15 properties that were burned. but the damage wasn't exclusive ly biy flames there were other businesses looted. where family built up they lost over the course of decades. here's one family's story, it's crushing. for more than eight hours, the levy family helplessly watched their under surveillance cameras from home as looters gutted the store they owned for more than 25 years. >> they were coming in cleaning us totally. >> reporter: this mass is all that's left. they want to rebuild. where do you begin? >> it's sad. my heart is breaking it's breaking for baltimore, for all the store owners. it's breaking for us.
one promise after another, it has failed and it's failed miserably over the past 50 years. >> and the on honus is on those who have done more things. its a great city. it's one of america's great cities. they love the orals there. the fact that they can't play a game, as mica says said it's symbolic and horrible. you go less than a month where the stadium is that development is, it is no economic opportunity. no ed kath opportunity. fraught reasons with law enforcement. those that want to continue the policies of the prefer mares have to ask and explain, why is it going to solve -- >> i'm going to push back ob you. the reason is the mayor can't fix the problem alone. it's state government -- >> i'm not talking about this mayor. 50 years of failed policy. >> let me make my point. >> don't talk about this mayor. >> i said mayors.
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their resources, she obviously worked with the governor. i don't know that any of us would be having this kind of conversation if the city had the national guard against high school students. obviously, the city took a significant turn for the worse. . they did what they node to do. but there will be enough time for after action operations or analysis with that particular mom and her son. let's talk about the resources needed to make sure that young man has something to do in the after school hours and the many programs that baltimore has and it would be hypocritical to talk about the challenges, in many cities a i kros the united states don't have jobs this summer.
school students in baltimore, he called them inexcusable. he says what we are provideing is a call to action for adults to provide better for the young people in this community. >> peter alexander, thank you. that family watched on security videos at their home azzurri otters went in there and ripped that place apart. as you can see torn to shreds. >> it's devastating. you know we see this in baltimore. we saw it in ferguson and we've seen it unfortunately too many places and mark halperin we talk about police brutality. there is police brutality. we talk about access and there certainly is access in a lot of these communities, but the daily news talks about america's crisis. there is another story and that is a permanent under class in america that all the social engineering from you know what politico after another making
rightfully so tremendous tax incentives to build a water front. to build the stadiums where were the tax incentives and the public investment to rebuild the neighborhoods that are in trouble? >> hold on a sec, again, mr. mayor, we agree with you. we're not talking about mayor, we're talking about federal government, the state government we're talking about how america has to look at this permanent under class. still and this is again that's what i was -- i didn't understand what we were disagreeing about. >> exactly. >> because we're saying the same thing here. there is a permanent under class where public instinct. if we give everybody tax breaks everything will be great if we start a new program, everything will be great. i call that trickle down liberalism, where we count on the government doesn't work. trickle done conservatism where we cut taxes for business doesn't work.