Yeah, everybody across america across the world should be thankful that people did have the foresight to plan and then allow for it to be voted on. i know joe biden voted against it. others who voted against it haven t changed their political bent since to understand it is a very important project. the pipeline went from 1.5 million barrels a day now to about 700,000 barrels a day. we need more oil in that pipeline. the only way we are going to get more oil in there is for the oil companies to have that allowance in different areas like npra and anwr. greta: when you were governor, did you ever escort anyone from congress, congress come up here at all? a lot of congressional delegations have come up here. when i was governor, we had boehner, bachmann, a bunch of the good guys.
To work on it. greta: prudhoe bay is here, right here. anwr being here, prudhoe bay. and the pipeline, any idea the path of the pipeline? it follows the road. this is the transalaska pipeline, comes through, goes around fairbanks, the highway all the way down to glen allen, the junction at the highway. then it turns and comes down to valdez, crosses the highway at 63 1/2 mile. from there to here it is all underground. where it comes down through thomas thompson pass it is concreted into the mountain. greta: it comes down to here where i m pointing, ground underground. then what happens there?
Small increase in spending is predicted. shoppers expected to be looking for bargains. nikkei up 10,088. hang seng up 23,055. dow jones 11,087. i m marianne rafferty. now back to on the record. your your latest headlines go to foxnews.com. greta: you just heard governor palin s argument in favor of drilling in anwr. not everyone agrees. a conservationist, environmental lawyer is against drilling in anwr. he went on the record. it seems there are four big issues. the economic issue. national security. environmental and aesthetic. we ve gone a lot of these issues the past couple of days for people in favor of the drilling.
Addiction for oil. we our service into this mess, no question. if there is drilling in anwr we are not going to see the benefits in terms of oil flowing for about 10 years. so it is not something that is going to change tomorrow in looking at anwr, when we were up there, there seemed to be two distinct areas. one is the most majestic mountain ranges. then the coastal plain. we are showing that video now. it is about 30 to 60 miles south of the coastline. which doesn t look like there is much going on there. i m told, correct me if i m wrong, that the drilling would just be a small portion of that. would have a small footprint is that wrong? i think it is wrong on a couple of points. first of all, the coastal plain of the arctic refuge about 1.5 million acres considered by the scientists to be the biological heart of that refuge. in a two week period in the summer the porcupine caribou
Environmentalists to make their money. we ve come close a few times to allow that stroke of a pen, some development in that 1002 area that coastal plain set aside for development. republican-led congress some years ago voted for it. clinton vetoed it. we ve seen the ups and downs, politically-speaking of this battle for so many years. there s no reason any more, greta. it doesn t make any sense to keep this plain locked up when it is for development, for exploration that s what the purpose was. greta: it would make such a difference if you see something. it seems anyone who is opposed, in a position of power ought to come look, maybe the person would still be opposed. i don t know. that s why i was curious. obama needs to get up here. as much time as he has on his hands to take all these vacations maybe he should vacation in anwr at least fly over mr. president or play
Than the western or central caribou where the plain can be 80, 130 miles wide. here it is 10 to 30 miles wide. again, 35,000 calves in a two week period. they don t have displacement habitat that s the qualitative difference with the caribou to the west. scientists tell us they are incredibly vulnerable to development and climate change. you are right, i represent conservation groups like the alaska wilderness league and native groups and in the past with the peeps on the south eye of the brooks range. they are vigorously opposed for those human rights reasons to drilling in the arctic refuge. there are other native i m sorry go ahead. greta: i m running out of time and i have so many questions. the fact that there have not been any spills in the prudhoe bay other or leaks or anything, is that comforting to you or is that not relevant to you at all?
Golf, do what he does this is a national security need. this is that link between security and our own domestic development. i think it is inexcuseable our president won t come up here and look at it. greta: next our america special continues. you just saw anwr from the air. coming up, you will see from it the ground. more with the palins is next. then the other side of the drilling argument. is drilling for oil in anwr a terrible mistake that will destroy the environment? we report, you decide. later, you meet an extraordinary woman who lives a life like no ones. she lavis len near the arctic ocean in the winter she faces 24 hours of darkness. you are going to north alaska, coming up. a while back, toyota invented hybrid synergy drive.
50s. yet, that land hasn t been touched since. in 1960, even more oil was discovered. anwr was created huge unit, 20 million acres set aside for wilderness, refuge and in 1980 expanded for oil and gas development at the top of anwr. we have a huge swath of land, 20 million acres in one unit, 19 million in another unit that have been proven to hold oil and gas haven t got to tap em yet. greta: west is prudhoe bay. that s the oil discovered in 1967, which is where you worked. the pipeline was created, beginning in the early 70s. it started flowing 1977. 10 years after the discovery, yes. greta: alaska has a lot of
It was a hunting grounds. in the 60s, 70s they found natural gas. in 68 the discovery well came in prudhoe bay, natural gas capped off and forgotten about. 20, 21 years ago seismic work and anybody that wanted to do work out here they put in installation in. when i came in the process of purchasing it, if you base your economy on a migratory animal, you probably won t be in business long. i m venturing out knew eco tourism, making the out into eco tourism, making the camp more eco-friendly. greta: how far are we from anwr? 12 miles. to the east is anwr. greta: where are you from originally? chicago. greta: how long have you been up here? this location, seven years,
They have the guts, the wherewithal, the s to want to get up here and see it for themselves. then not have to make a political decision on whether it is like anwr should be developed or not or more production to allow more of the pipeline flow to take place. they wanted to see. a lot of the naysayers have never been here. they believe these bogus phony extreme environmentalist, fundraiser pictures of what anwr is about. that s why we are going today so we can show america what it really looks like. greta: who is the biggest opponent in the congress of drilling in anwr? the extreme politicians on the left who want to buy into those extreme environmentalists who claim there s no way you can responsibly develop a plot of land set aside for oil and gas development this is the poster child, anwr is. the fundraiser for