just for the summations now, you can t bring the president there for the whole trial because people say, well, doesn t he have better things to do than sit here for a week, but for summations for a few hours, it would not have been inappropriate to do that s interesting. so you think a president biden being in there would have been helpful? i m sure that discussion was had between the biden family and abbe lowell and they decided against it. and i can understand there are reasons to decide against it, but if you do bring the president there, it does show respect for the system that he s there sitting as a father interested in the fate of his son, but he s not there. and you would have to acknowledge it. he s not there as the president of the united states he s there as the father of hunter biden? yeah. i mean, it is remarkable. abbe lowell going 90 minutes today with the jury was closing their eyes and some points. is that a bad sign look, it s it s not great, but you can t read too much into that. yeah. we re not us to bill, we will be waiting to see if there is verdict tomorrow. thank you for joining us tonight. thank you all so much for joining us, as well as we continue to monitor all the news here at cnn, seen a news night with abby phillip starts right now the donald trump, his rally diehards that s tonight on these good evening. i m abby phillip in new york, another american first, the convicted former president who is now running to oversee the country. again just met with his probation officer in just moments i ll speak with abc news anchor and former clinton white house insider george steph monopolists will get some unique insights into what a second trump term may look like but first, a play-by-play of what donald trump said in las vegas let s set the scene for you. the heat spiral 200 degrees. six people were sent to the hospital two dozen others were treated at the scene call it the heat or donald trump feeling hot under the collar. but the content of this rally vero wildly into topic after topic. now, some that actually might matter to you the voter, and others that matter to donald trump. and maybe no one else. so here is an incomplete sampling of what you heard. if you happen to have stood in that rally and sweated through all of it starting with a joke about voters i don t want anybody going on me. we need every voter. i don t care about you. i just want your vote. i don t care these are the range that dumb guy is that dumb son of a he s a corrupt, very dumb person. he s a low iq individual, is just something missing and there always has been this guy just hit enter, it goes to the beach the time somebody thinks it looks good in a bathing said, i don t think so and he has that little chair that weighs about like seven ounces. it s been so children can lift it and very old people can lifted. and you know what he s not old he s incompetent. it s weak, it s in ineffective, it s both. what he signed they re totally destroying our black population. they re totally destroying are hispanic population. i pay all this money to teleprompter people and i d say 20% of the time, they don t work. i don t pay contractors that do a job and that s a job that s a job you can t read all right what would happen if the boat sank from his weight and you re in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery. and the battery is now under the water. and there s a shark that s approximately ten yards over there by the way, a lot of shark attacks lately did notice that those j6 warriors, they were worries, but they were really more than anything else. they are victims of what happened. all they were doing is protesting a rigged election that s what they were doing. and then the police say go and go in, go in water, set-up. that was what a horrible, horrible thing. and you know, that blows two ways. if we win nevada we win the whole thing. i hope the military revolt set the voting booth and just says we re not going to take it. he should take a drug test because i m willing to take 20 me now is george stuff annapolis, abc news anchor he is a veteran of the clinton white house, and he s also the author of a brand new book, the situation room, the inside story of presidents in crisis. george, it s great to have you on in this book it chronically on avy, it critical six decades of crisis management from the situation room a place that you know well from your time in the white house, one of the interesting things is also these interviews with officers who were in the situation room on january 6. this is at a time now when trump is actively running to be back in the white house, and fundamentally change how the government works, how the so-called deep state works. did you hear any concerns from these duty officers about what a second trump term would mean for the kind of continuity that the national security apparatus has relied on for all these years. absolutely i mean, duty officers and others who served in the trump administration worried that the institutions would crumble. i spoke with them. wait us situation duty officer named mike stigler, who is actually on-point on january 6, and he said people have to understand how close we came to losing the vice president at the time. and he was horrified by this also horrified by the fact that he and his fellow officers in the situation room that they had to start implementing the continuity of government procedures which were designed to make sure that the government survives a nuclear attack. they were put into place on that day because of the threat to our institutions on that day as one of course, president trump famously never called down the situation room even once all during january 6. and you know, you talk about it s not just how close we came to watching our institutions crumble that day the ongoing threat is real. i mean, look at what happened just saturday night in las vegas when the president, former president uk, called the january convicted felons from january 6, those who rioted on january 6 and tried to block the peaceful transfer our he called them warriors who are somehow set up by the police. he s called them hostages. he s called them patriots. he s promising to pardon them. he s not promising to divide by the results of the next election. so this, this pass thread is very real right now have you ever seen, i mean, in your research and your time in government anyone run for office, really running against the very government that they are supposed to be? overseeing absolutely unprecedented abbe absolutely unprecedented. we have never had a former president or a presidential candidate who refuses to accept the peaceful transfer of power, who refused to say but he will buy by the constitution who s been indicted. and impeached for trying to block the peaceful transfer of power that is something that is absolutely fundamental to our democracy is one of the things that s made our democracy work for over 200 years. the idea the simple fact that the former president continues to lie about the, about the last election that he did, whatever he could on that data block, the peaceful transfer of power is absolutely unprecedented in all of our history and you, on your show on this week, you ve had some of these trump vp short listers on there some of the other hosts of this week have also had them on. i want to just play a little bit of what they ve been saying on television of late i think there were problems in 2020. yes, i do. do i think it was a problem that big technology companies working with the intelligence services sensor, the presidential campaign of donald trump? yes governors, governor you, you have said the election should wasn t stolen and you re supporting someone who says it was well, i know that we ve got certainly we ve got irregularities do you get the sense that this is one of the requirements to be on that shortlist you don t get the sense it s out there is plain as day. i actually talked to senator jd vance who is reportedly on the shortlist. as well. and every indication he gave was that he would do the same thing that mike pence, that he would not do what mike pence did in 2000 i mean, it s certainly seems to have become a requirement for those who are running to accept president trump s lie. former president trump s lie about the last election to suggest that he did nothing wrong. now on january 6, to say that somehow that is not an important issue at this point. and to suggest that it was actually vice president pence who did the wrong thing in 2020 i mean, this is just again, this is astonishing. we ve never really had a former prison isn t it run before? whose own vice president refuses to endorse him because of the actions he took on those days. yeah. yeah. i mean, that alone has says maybe it says it all as a journalist, when you have these potential vp, a candidates on the show, you ve had them on, we ve had them on the show here. they rarely, if ever for concede ground this seems to be also another litmus test for how to be in maga world. i mean, is this the new reality for this this maga era of politicians that they don t back down when they re confronted with fats perhaps it is, but i think that s, that poses a test for all of us in journalism as well. i ve made it a point if they will not accept those facts, i don t go on to other issues. i m not going to go to participate in some kind of a sham where you somehow equate the legitimacy of an election or the peaceful transfer of power with a debate over tax cuts or environmental regulation. if you can t pass that fundamental threshold of saying yes, the last election was not stolen two, i will abide by the results of the next election then i think that s all voters and viewers need to know. i don t think if you re willing to lie about something as big as that, why should anything else they want to talk about be given any credence it s such an important point. i mean, we ve got a vice presidential debate coming up right here on cnn. i later this month as a journal phyllis does american what do you think is the most important question that needs to be answered from both candidates who won the last election yeah, very simple. yeah. and won the last election. let s just let s let s discuss and debate. and we ll see, i mean, luck, week. it s been asked by donald trump. he refuses to answer it correctly, but we ll see what he does when he s given that opportunity in front of 140 million people it says it s a little bit different than on a stage like that. yeah, i when it s an actual debate, but that s it s a real test. i do want to play a little bit of what the vice president kamala harris has been saying, actually, on this very point, i mean, she seems to really be taking this issue on head-on. donald. trump openly tried to overturn the last election and now he openly attacks the foundations of our justice system. cheaters don t like getting caught it s a different tone than we ve seen from harb, but it also speaks to that question that you just raised if trump doesn t pass the truth test on that issue, is there room for the biden administration to even move on to some of the other stuff, maybe the bread and butter issues, maybe the economy do you think that they are? settling on this idea of a character test for donald trump on this issue. president president kennedy, i have to do it all, but i mean, i think that is the threshold question of this election. certainly the biden campaign is going to have to address voters concerns about the economy, voters concerns that inflation, those are important as well, but it it is fundamental, as i said, at the start part the very question of whether or not you accept election results, whether you accept the peaceful transfer of power, that is an absolutely fundamental issue that people should be confirmed runaway as they go to make their choice in november when it comes to the potential of a trump administration. i mean, what do you think his conduct on january 6 tells you about what he might do next? not just around the election, but just in general he s saying what he would do next. he says that every single day he says he would pardon what he calls the january 6 hostages. he s talked about retribution using his justice department as an as an arm of retribution. he s talked openly about dropping the prosecutions against themselves. that s an active obstruction of justice in and of itself. it s no secret when president trump says he wants to do something, we should take a minute as word george steph, novelist. thank you very much. again, george s book, the situation room is out right now next breaking news about trump s legal issues here. what happened inside of his meeting with eight probation officer ahead of his sentencing? thanks. plus one of trump s allies gets a new mug shot. will discuss with rudy giuliani is biographer and the former president says 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where the similarities stop. at the differences get real. trump got to have his lawyer, todd blanche in the room, a special accommodation not afforded then to the average defendant and it s one of the few notable examples of how the legal system really bent over backwards for trump, where it would not have for others, ten contempt violations normally merit more than just a fine. nobel restrictions for a defendant of his means. also, an anomaly carefully choreographed search of his home to spare them from having cameras capture agents of the lawn of the law wearing fbi jackets. that s a nicety really given to no one else joining me now are robert gray who was counseled to then president trump during is first impeachment. and dante mills, he s a civil and criminal attorney and a law professor at temple this leaves school of law, dante, this probation hearing lasted about 30 minutes. we re told what kind of information are they trying to get from trump. let s just walk through. everybody understands the purpose of this and why they do it most times, judges don t know the defendant these trials happen. normally their day or two. the judge doesn t get to know the person they re going to have to sentence. so what you do is you have an investigating officer come in, ask questions about the person s background, get an understanding of who they are, where they come from, who their family is, what kind to jobs they have. and then they present a report to the judge who says, based on this report it s going to influence my decision one way or the other, or it won t because it s pretty standard so it happens to everybody, but we do it to a former president of the united states. everybody knows who he is already. so it s not necessary. i don t think in this case, but you have to go through the process of why why have his lawyer present? i mean what s the concern there are the on trump s part. i don t know so about new york state practice, but i will say in federal practice is actually typical to have a lawyer present during the pre-sentence interview. in fact, it s almost always ordered by the judge upon request of the defense. them from saying anything that might hurt them. right. particular well, not so much that but particularly in a case that goes to trial where the defendant has an appeal. i think the concern always is to not talk about the quote, unquote, instant offense, meaning the offense of conviction because you might say something there that potentially could jeopardize. and i think everything else. and so that s why the lawyer often the lawyer is there to just simply she and i ve done hundreds of these essentially two let me handle the discussions as your lawyer with the probation officer about the offensive fine line between wanting your client to be forthcoming and not be obstructive against the person trying to get information, but also not crossing the line is saying, but i did this or slipping up is saying something that can be used against them, being obstructive to the person trying to get information is definitely something i would be worried about with trump. i mean, just in general that judge merchan is going to weigh who is donald trump, which everybody knows to a certain degree, but also the lack of remorse here, frankly, in this case, i mean, ultimately, how does that all come together to influence the judge s decision and sentence? i think the judge knows what he s going to do, but he ll get this regard. i think he s already made up his mind, but he ll get this report and he ll see what s in this report and he may use that to justify something if he wants to put trump in jail, he ll say well, trump wasn t forthcoming. look at this report. he didn t even provide this information if he wants to give them probation, he ll say, well trump was he was cooperating with this investigator. so this is a sign that he s learned his lesson and we don t need to put them in jail. i think this will be used to bolster whatever sayyed the judge wants to lean on. you think the judge is already setup, set his mind to some decision here you know, i honestly don t. i think that obviously all judges have views about a case, particularly when they ve sat through a trial about what they might do in the event of a conviction at sentencing. but i do think the judges take very seriously, both in guilty plea cases as well as cases that go to trial and result in a conviction in evaluating a third parties let s review which is the probation office of the defendant s personal characteristics and history and the investigation that they conduct. they re very good at it. i have found judges don t always agree. they don t have to agree with what they re probation office recommends, but i imagine the probation office will recommend whether or not in this e felony case a sentence of imprisonment is warranted or not. generally, i would say that in this particular case, i don t know if we re going to find any or learn anything new about the former president trump that we don t. and the judge doesn t know are ready, so i do want to move on just briefly to what s happening down in florida with judge aileen cannon i mean, she s got a lot of emotions to deal with. she dealt with one issue today hey well, one-and-a-half let s call it that one of them was whether or not to throw out some of the counts against donald trump sheet ruled against that, but she did say that this so-called talking indictment in which the prosecutors laid out this description of trump s handling of classified map and how he talked to somebody and his camp payne about it. she basically said that was unnecessary and she struck it from the indictment what do you make of that? it is something that judges, federal judges increasingly, i have seen as a defense lawyer have problems with i mean, they they don t try to trim the sales of the government too often about speaking indictments but they do expect that speaking indictments, if they speak speak to facts that the government expects with some degree of certainty will be offered into evidence and received into evidence at trial. and this was a situation where i think the sense was that was excised from the indictment was problematic. the judge hasn t ruled on it yet. it may or may not. this is other similar acts evidence but not conduct that s actually he wasn t part of the charge charge and that s shouldn t really be in the diet payment ordinarily unless you re pretty certain that the judge has made a ruling. but to trump s handling of classified documents, which is the gate does but i ll tell you why this was put in there. the prosecutors who bought this case knew they were bringing a case against the former president of the united states, and they will be scrutinized all right, people are going to go through with a fine tooth comb and i believe they want it to include things that would pass the smell test for anybody reading this indictment, they threw extra facts and air. so if you just read the indictment on its face, you said, oh, they have a case. oh, they have a reason for bringing this forward. so i do think they went overboard a little bit. i understand why they did it i also don t blame the judge for saying all right. just take this part, striking it does that have any impact on the case at all? the indictment is welcome to things. one is the jury will be specifically instructed at the beginning of the trial during trial and at the end of the trial that the indictment itself is just a charge and it s not evidence of anything. but it is fairly often the case paste that judges will allow the indictment into the jury room. not all judges will do that but in federal cases, some judges will. and so you don t want anything in the indictment that the jury really shouldn t be in a judge is going to take a look. important thing is the jury instructions. the judge is going to tell them what the law is, what they have to base their decision on. think that will be more important than the indictment itself but she was right for cleaning up that indictment and just not having facts that may or may not come in. that case is a slow moving train. but here we are. robert ray, dante mills. thank you. both for being here. and next, the man who was once known as america s mayor posing for his second mug shot in less than a year, who knew giuliani biographer joins me live plus y giuliani decided to call fani willis a hoe at eight christian event alder james is cold, calculating, cynical, and needs the money not only was the cia compromise he also was compromised secrets and spies, a nuclear game. sunday at ten on cnn my husband and i own a growing beverage company. we rely on e-commerce and digital tools it s a build our business and launch new products thanks to american investments and ai, we re using this technology to run our business more efficiently artifact official intelligence is a game changer. and i m excited that the us 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pleaded not guilty to charges of conspiring to overturn arizona s election, joining us now is andrew kurtzman. he is the author of giuliani the rise and tragic fall of america s mayor. that is exactly the topic of conversation today because i mean to mug shots in a year, for any rational person that would be extraordinary for the man who used to be he thought at one point he could be president of the united states, america s mayor. i m in quite the fall. will anyone who was around the 80s or 90s saw a giuliani even long before he was america s mayor. he was the most famous law man in america, right? he was a crusading prosecutor. the united they southern district and manhattan, the scourge of wall street wall street crux and mafia bosses and the, the trajectory of giuliani s career is just, it s pretty extraordinary. i mean, with trump and giuliani long ago, we ve lost the ability to be shocked by then, but those mug shots of giuliani or a jaw dropping, if you know who he was, someone back then who had such a reverence for the law. he saw that court system as his church someone who has now been reduced to that. it s pretty tragic. and on top of that, i mean alaa man, that s a perfect example of the image that he portrayed himself. and yet in this arizona case, he was literally running from the law he literally tried to escape being served i mean, that s the rudy giuliani of today would be completely unrecognizable of the giuliani of 20 years ago are 30. there s, there s no question about it. i mean, his fall it s not that he s had a toe just a career collapse. he said a total moral collapse as well. he is just a shadow of him self and today or tonight, i was listening to his nightly webcast and there he was railing against joe biden and hunter biden engaging and character assassination there s a certain kind of almost fanaticism to him that s caused him to do as much as as much damage as he done and also to be a shameless about it. and it continues, i want to play for you what he said at a christian event about the georgia district attorney fani willis then i ve got to prosecutors fani the whole i m sorry i mean, what what what is there to even say anymore about comments like that, right? i mean, it s horrible. it s horrible, and it s it s not just, you know? portable character assassination, which is kind of bint as hallmark all the way back to his prosecutorial career but it also is a complete undermining of who he wants was as someone as i was saying, who had such reverence for the law that he you re talking about a person almost became a preece when he was a young man, he saw the court system as kind of that kind of similar moral kind of adjudication area where you declared right from wrong i mean, look look at them now. i mean, it s disgraceful as with so many people in trump s world, it s almost like he gives them a permission slip to just no holds barred, no inhibitions. they get to kind of go with their most base instincts. and i think 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republican nominee arguing why voters should choose him in november we can t afford to have anyone sit on the sidelines now is the time for us to all pull together and to stand up for our values and for our freedoms. and you just can t vote democrat. they re against religion there, against your religion in particular, you cannot vote for democrats and you have to get out and vote what makes the comments notable are where are they happened, which was in front of extreme anti-abortion group, the danbury institute wants to outlaw all abortion, even in case of rape and incest. they also claimed that abortion is never necessary to save the life of a mother. the group also so opposes ivf treatments to help women get pregnant. now remember, trump and says that he doesn t want to ban all abortions. and he says that he supports ivf. but today, he told those anti-abortion activists that he ll stand by there, sayyed side-by-side with them joining me now is republican strategist joe opinion, former communications director for vice president kamala harris, jamal simmons and former press advisor to speaker john boehner, more gillespie, joe. this is probably a strategy of no one is going to pay attention to what trump is doing, but we re paying attention. why would, why would he do that? look, i think we have to two issues here. do you have an issue with your organization? do you have an issue with the message? i think we ll start with the message. i mean, i think the issue is does donald trump believed that abortion should all be illegal? this group believes or does he believe what he says? he believed the president has been quite clear that he does not want you have a federal ban, i think has been very clear on the fact that he wants you have the issue remain with the states and so either we can take him at his word or you don t. it s quite clear that people want you tie him and tebor him to the organization. and all of their beliefs. it is quite clear that we are in the business of coalition building here in american politics. if you have an issue with the coalition, you can bring that up on the campaign trail, but it is interesting to me that we never asked democrats you disavow any of their supporters. we never asked democrats to affectively find the most extreme elements of their party and then answer questions about them. this only happens with people on the political right. and so i think that, that look, i think i don t think that s true. i think that s what comes up all the time. democrats are always asked, they are i say disavow, i didn t blanche. there s a difference between asking whether you agree with the issues and then saying, what do you have to disavow the group? i think again, the broader issue here is is the democratic party, a party that is hospitable to the beliefs of christians. i think there s plenty of polling that shows that there has been an erosion of faith in america. but there is a greater arose in the democratic party. and many of the policies that they re advocating for them up to democrats. this is a place where you guys are completely off base because the democratic party is fueled by african americans, particularly african american women who are the backbone of large christian churches all over america and so if we take a look at where the democratic party stands and the teachings at some i m a child of a minister. and as the teachings of jesus feeding the hungry clothing, the naked, taking care of those who are, who are needed and dispossessed that is quite right in the middle of the home plate of the democratic party platform. so i think that make the argument is an argument that is being made on behalf of a various particular subset of christianity that in historical terms, has not been on the side of african-americans at all because that part of the christianity has been on the side in the old days, slavery segregation i mean, he remembers very different. we want to have an ala carte conversation about religion short democrats like you pick and choose when they want to go down to the black church, like kathy hochul and get their anointing and say that i am not here to be the mother of all 62 counties that she s going to be a were all her apostles. there is a real serious conversation. democratic party, where if barack obama goes to boston it says that we have some people worshiping god and the blue states and awesome gotten the blue states. but when eric adams goes and says that i believe that god s plan for my life has led me to becoming mayor. he gets mocked. he gets mocked by the media. he gets mapped over there when we have all of those arrays. also, i just i don t want to lose this in the conversation. it s important though it is donald trump describing, first of all, your religion, i thought that he described himself as christian, but then to say that it is against your religion, christianity to vote for democrats, that seems like crossing a line. but i also think, what just happened here too is you re saying you guys down trump is saying all democrats, your blanket statements. that s what s frustrating i think to there can people as these blanket statements assuming that all democrats think like that all republicans think like, and that s an accurate. and so donald trump did here is interesting because he s pandering to christian conservatives, but yet his lifestyle, we know violet plates most, if not all, the commandments that he, you know, that the christians abide by but that s all trump. that doesn t speak for all republicans, not all republicans believed to ban abortion. and not all republicans want to attack women. just like i don t think all democrats are pro palestine and not all pro-hamas. i don t blanket statement that because i think that s a frustration in politics. political perspective. i mean, you talked about the big tent. i i think that s that s one way of looking at it. but from a political perspective, donald trump trying to argue he understands abortions of political problem for republicans. he s trying to argue, he s not the extremist president. he s not going to have a national ban, but then to go before an organization that is even to the right of the right on this issue, it does that really undercut his message giving democrats an opportunity? it does get their request an opportunity, not just because he s talking to this group i mean, he he made i think he s being extreme, but all the extremists think that he s extreme enough for them, right? he is the president who took credit for pregnant three supreme court justice on the court, who got rid of row, who helped the end roe v wade protections for abortion. he wants credit from groups like this about getting rid of abortion in the country. and if he s going to take credit, that means he also has take the blame from 60 5% of the country who has decided that we are four abortion rights. they are for women having the freedom to exercise control over their own bodies. and if he s going to take the credit, he also has to take well, i would agree that there are individuals who will be offended by the choice of the venue. and so if democrats want to raise that as an issue that is fair game in politics, but that does not deal with the fact that again, we re not having this conversation to your point when we re talking about people on the brooklyn bridge yelling from the river to the sea. palestine will be free, which is a call for the eradication of us people. we don t have these same, i think would disagree with you i don t wanna i don t want to belabor that point, but definitely i don t i do not think that is an issue that the democratic party has to own, right? it s becomes those are those democrats that is not indicative of who we are as a party. i think it is disingenuous to sit here and pretend that we don t have a senate majority leader for this nation that has gone and undermined benjamin netanyahu. it is disingenuous to say that we don t have a president than on one day said you re going to support israel on the other, de said is going to get rid of funny, i click, i get this is a completely separate issue, but my point is that if we re going to have people own a particular faction of their base and which do what across the board. and we re here having this conversation about abortion because it is clearly an issue the democrats think they can run on. and the only issues they can run on its abortion on monday, abortion on tuesday, january 6, on wednesday, and nothing else. abortion on monday and abortion on tuesday worked pretty well for them particularly in 2022. so more, how do you see this? republicans are going to struggle as we have on this issue of women s rights. when we talk about abortion, we fail to talk about the resources that aren t available to women who are now in these states that are being told they can t do ivf, which i m sorry if you want women to have more children, ivf is a wonderful opportunity to do that. so you re banning things like that. and you re not giving them the resources, then to have children to support women going to those appointments. having children is expensive. childcare is expensive. we don t do anything about that conversation. we stop and i think that two things can be true at once. you can believe in the sanctity of life, but you can also believe in medical freedom for half the population of the places in this country where it s the most difficult to have an abortion. it s also the most difficult to raise a child. it s a good point more, joe and jamal. thank you all very much for that conversation up next for us, the olympic rings, they re officially unveiled in paris, but not without some conscious firstly, of course, over who will be on the court for team usa. bob costas is here and he ll weigh in on caitlin clark, not making the cut. that s the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn t be higher, biden. democracy is on the 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celebrating the most popular opening months in its history. the league is reporting that on average, a whopping 1.3 million people have been watching their games on national broadcast. that is a 286% increase over last year game attendance merchandise sales social media engagement. they ve all been off the charts now, it s unclear exactly how much credit indiana fever star caitlin clark deserves for this jump, but it is safe to say that she has had a significant role in the success of the league. now, that being said all of these numbers come as the team usa announced its roster for next month s olympics, olympic games in paris. now let s just take a look at the team. you ll see that someone is notably missing yes. caitlin clark was omitted from the list and social media didn t take kindly to that. so should she be on the squad joining me now to unpack all of this is cnn contributor bob costas christine brennan, our friend on the show here and usa today and broke or so unless she broke this big story she won t be on the team. is it a snub or is this just the way ago? well, there are no rookies on the team. they re all veterans. if you wanted to make a case, you could say diana taurasi, who is an all-time wnba great. been in the league since 2004 for two decades, 41-years-old has five olympic gold medals already you could say you could put caitlin clark on in place of how you could make that case, but caitlin clark, other people would make that caitlin clark herself says, i get this 100%. i m young, i can work toward the next olympics and an olympics after that caitlin clark has faced some resentment for a variety of reasons. people, according to whatever narrative they want, want to attribute everything to one thing, whatever it is. but as we discussed last week with carrie champion, it s a combination of things, but say anything you want about caitlin clark. she in addition, they should understand this high tide of caitlin clark is raising all boats as you just pointed out, in addition to that, she has done everything the right way. she said i don t know what an apology from kennedy carter is just the way the game is. and then she praised carter s play. she says the game is rough. i ve got to adapt to that. she signs every but a graph. she doesn t whine and complain. she didn t complain about being left off the olympic team. some of this, and it s just not just a white, white thing, but maybe she is in terms of attention now that but many white stars in the league over the last quarter century, maybe there s some similarity between her and larry bird when larry bird came into the nba, there was some skepticism all he was fine in college is a white guy, can t be that good. it turned out he was one of the all-time greatest players, one of the ten greatest players conservatively in the whole history of the league when dennis rodman, who s always been a little crazy, said, if larry bird was a black guy, just be an average player, everyone was up in arms, right? here s what larry said. i don t care. let s just play he defused the whole thing. he warned everybody over by just being about basketball and caitlin clark, i think has been not just a really good and exciting player. she s been a classy person to this point and good for her. yeah. actually, let s play what caitlin said about being left off the team honestly, notice appointment like i think it just gives you something something to work for. you know, that s a dream, you know, hopefully one day i can be there and think it s just a little more motivation you remember that and, you know, hopefully in four years when four years comes back around, i can be there and honestly likely she will. i mean, just so people understand bob me what you were just talking about. this is what the olympic team looks like in terms of their accolades. i mean, you ve got wnba champions, you ve got all stars because you ve got olympic gold medalists, you ve got people who have basically been at the highest levels playing at slav a for a long time already. seems that she understands that she understands that. and what coaches and players around the wnba have to understand. i think most of them likely do yeah, i understand the resentment they d been there a long time. there are many good players. she s getting a disproportionate amount of the attention, but none of that is her fault. some of the resentment toward her has a racial element in it. we d be naive to deny that, but some people want to make that the entire narrative as we discussed last week with carrie champion, some of this is is carrier said as stacy dales of espn, who played in league happens to be white, she has said, hey, we ve been around a long time notice, not just our excellence, but it s a physical game. now, we have to make distinctions. what kennedy carter did against caitlin clark is outside the bounds. it should have been a flagrant foul i ll they upgraded it to that last week. i made the point that when alyssa thomas through angel reese to the floor, that was involved two black players had it been caitlin clark and alyssa thomas and thrown her to the floor? everyone would have made that a racial incident and only a racial incident i did a bad job, however, on context because that was immediately called a flagrant two. and alyssa thomas was ejected, plus it was on a small cable outlet and not viewed as widely as kate, right like kennedy carter, caitlin clark thing was out of bounds and it s pretty clear that for whatever reasons kennedy carter harbored some resentment toward caitlin clark, whatever the cause. i mean, one of the things is that all these kind of new fans right to the gay are coming in and everybody wants to be a sports analyst of the wnba and they ve just now started watching and they re not even watching all the games, apparently. right. and when people say in a simple-minded way, oh, she s a white star. there have been many, many white stars over the years past and present. there s breanna stewart now, there was rebecca lobo sue bird, sabrina ionesco, who almost batch steph curry in a three-point shooting contest this past february at the starting name, what is it about caitlin clark? it s not just that she s white. steph curry stood out from other great black stars in the nba because he played in a way that was appealing and relatable. shooting from the logo, dr. jay was more appealing and brought in more fans and his teammate moses malone, who was a three-time mvp because dr. jay s game was more flamboyant. michael jordan wasn t just great. he was fun to watch caitlin clark is fun to watch. yeah. and she is going to be a star pretty much no matter what do you think she ll ultimately be an alternate for the olympic team? i think he could be. i think that s possible. and the concern that because she d be reserve and she wouldn t play that many minutes and therefore, her fans would be up in arms just put the point out there, educate them it 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that is tonight s the last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. tonight, donald trump met his probation officer. we will look at a key step as sentencing approaches. the fate of hunter biden is in the hands of a delaware jury. nba legend steve kerr is here and why he speaking out about the stakes in the election as the 11th hour gets underway. good evening once again. we are 148 days away from election. today, one of the leading candidates for president met with his probation officer. donald trump brush off his guilty verdict set for a standard presentencing interview this afternoon, there was nothing standard about how this interview was held. trump got special permission to attend virtually from florida and to have his attorney todd blanche present. he s been complaining for months about it two tiered system of justice and he is right. is new public defenders pointed out today, most people do not get to login remotely from a resort in florida to talk to their probation officers. as for is what happens in these interviews, probation officers generally ask about financial resources, mental health, and any links to other convicted criminals. they also have to ask if you feel remorse for the crime you were convicted of. meanwhile, in delaware, the hunter biden firearms case went to the jury after both sides made closing arguments. hunter biden chose not to take the stand. here is ryan nobles with more. reporter: tonight, it s in the hands of the jury. six men and six women deliberating the fate of hunter biden, the first child of a sitting american president to be charged with a crime. many members of the first family in the courtroom throughout the trial. all of this is not evidence. gesturing around the courtroom and in the direction of first lady jill biden in the first row. people sitting in the gallery are not evidence he said adding no one is above the law. the special counsel s office use the president s son of lying on a federal back on check by checking the box claiming he was not an active drug user to purchase a gun. prosecutors used evidence from his laptop and called 10 witnesses, many describing hunter biden s frequent drug use including around the time he filled out the background check in october 2018. hunter biden s ex-wife testified she found drug paraphernalia inside his car in october 2018. his ex-girlfriend who was dating him at the same time singing hunter was smoking crack every 20 minutes or so. the evidence was personal. it was ugly. it was overwhelming he told the jury today. it was also absolutely necessary. defense attorney abbe lowell argued they focus too much on his drug abuse over a four year period and saying no one witnessed actual drug use during the window of time he purchased the gun. with that, let s do smarter with the help of our leadoff panel. pulitzer prize for investigative reporter with the washington post sam stein acerra veteran federal journalist and white house editor for political and a neighbor of carol. former new york prosecutor and civil rights attorney charles coleman jr. is here. you know it s a big night so you get first crack. donald trump met with his probation officer. help us understand the purpose of these interviews and how do they go and what do we know about what was asked in this one? when your probation officer will ask you questions, what they re trying to understand is what your setup is around your life. how do you live. what your financial resources are and what would be the impact of a particular sentence of a judge decides to send you to jail. are there people who depend on you? are you associating with other criminals which we know in the case of donald trump, he is. we could go down the long list. steve bannon, roger stone, michael flynn, the list goes on and on. one of the things a probation officer is looking to ascertain, and you talked about this, is whether you have any understanding and/or appreciation for the crime you re actually committed up. i think donald trump has a difficult tightrope when it comes to everything he said in the public around this persecution rather than what he knows is actually in the prosecution by the das office, and that will be something that will be hard to get around. the probation report is going to be something the judge takes into account when they make their decision around what sentence they ultimate ultimately oppose. they will make the recommendation and trump s attorneys will argue for as lenient of a sentence as possible. sam, donald trump has been arguing for months and months that there s a two cheered data tiered justice system and its benefiting him. he got to meet virtually with his probation officer. his lawyer was there and when he speaks at his rallies he s always saying i am doing this for you. i am standing here for you. but any trump supporters were in his position, they would not get the special privileges. why do they keep buying this? you are right. when you think back to the gag order that was imposed on trump at various points in the criminal case, that was almost done with reluctance compared to what it would ve been for any other person in the justice system. obviously, donald trump is a unique person in the justice system that he s running for president currently. it makes sense that some leeway is given to him. the justice system works in his favor and i would argue the second story, hunter biden s story, it is not a justice system. the presidents own department of justice is bringing a case against his son. if there was a thumb on the scale of the justice system on the part of president biden, one thing he would do it to alleviate the burdens on his son and maybe let it go away and the president sat back and watched this progress to the point where we will probably get a verdict in the next day or so. carol, get it s been a crazy last eight years and people have become desensitized. it is not even remotely normal for the presumptive gop nominee to be meeting with his probation officer. what is your reaction to this extraordinary moment in american history? i ve thought a lot about that and how numb the country has become to everything that we have watched in the last eight years. nobody can forget and yet we almost act like it was no big deal when then republican nominee for president, donald trump, was caught on live tape talking about grabbing women in the using a course word and saying he could get away with it because he was a celebrity. starting then and continuing on, it was like a starting gun of every other week, every other two weeks, revelations about donald trump as candidate and as president that made us all gasp and wonder, can he survive this? donald trump is the republican nominee for president again. he is the front runner in this race by many polls, and he is a felon who has been convicted of 34 counts of crimes in the state of new york. the city and the town, where he once ruled. all of us are like, oh, yeah, that s how it is. that s sort of the standard now for the last eight years. it s important for us all to step back and remember that no president and no former president has ever been charged with a crime and now we have one who has been convicted and is seeking to return to the white house. charles, an appellate lawyer wrote that donald trump s chances of winning an appeal are pretty slim. what do you think? i think so. when you talk about what it is to appeal a jury verdict, the first thing people need to understand its an rare occurrence that the system will look at the decision that is made by our constitution where you get a chance to have your case heard in front of a jury of your peers, which donald trump did, and override that decision absent some extreme miscalculation by the judge or extreme actions by one of the attorneys. judge merchan does not get enough credit for the way he ran this trial. i think he was aware that all eyes needed to be dotted and all his teas needed to be crossed and that s why he did on such a run such a tight ship to make sure there were as few issues for appeal as possible. that doesn t mean donald trump s attorneys won t seek to find an issue but the likelihood of being successful is slim to none. sam, dal bragg says he will testify before the house about the trump case but most likely not until after donald trump gets sentenced. he knows what he is going to face with house republicans. how do you think he will handle this? i mean, we knew the house republicans were going to do this. they signaled they want to protect donald trump and want to go after the prosecution. there has been overtures they want to defund jack smith for instance. bringing alvin bragg to the hill is something we should ve expected a long time ago. i m surprised they didn t push harder prior to this. i would point to the fact that a jury trumps peers made the determination he was guilty of 34 counts. that s the aspect of the american justice system that trump was right to defense and he was given defense. there will be questions about, who was on his team and funding them? what it comes down to is this is how the american justice system is designed to work. trump at his day in court and had his defense. that is that. the decision was made by a jury of 12 and you have to live with it that s what we do. charles, let s shift to what sam was talking about. the hunter biden case. what did you make of both sides, closing arguments, and hunter not taking the stand? it didn t surprise me that hunter biden did not take the stand for a number of reasons. number 1 comments difficult for hunter biden to give testimony in any way that will try to exonerate him or at least defend against those charges without either incriminating him or at least admitting publicly about his substance abuse. i think that is something he wanted to avoid. i think his team wanted to avoid that and if you are looking at this, it s something that would not of been well for the biden administration to have in the headlines. not that that has an impact on hunter s actual case or charges per se, but i think it was part of the calculus here. with respect to what you heard from the prosecution, this was straightforward. many legal experts myself included understand that when the special prosecutor on the case that joe biden allowed to stay on the case brought the charges, that is, if anything that we ve seen recently is a mass political prosecution we have seen. i say that because for these federal charges to be brought, you typically don t see that absent some additional violent events involving the actual handgun or the weapon that is in question. that s not the case here. hunter biden is not charged with that because we don t have those facts. robert hur decided to bring the charges against hunter biden and the case for the prosecution is relatively straightforward. none of this surprises me. what the defense did a closing argument is you work with the facts you have. they don t have gray facts so they have to call into question the time line. i don t know if that will be enough for a jury to either acquit him or result in a mistrial. sam, the president has already said he will not pardon his son. if he is found guilty, he could be taken into custody . how is the administration, campaign, going to react to this? they have been hands-off about a. they are not hiding the fact this is taking an emotional cole, mental pool, on the president. he is a there. when you ask about present enough, they are hands off. there s discomfort in the white house to even talk about the issue with the president himself. he does not want to discuss it. it s not that he doesn t think it s a political fallout but it s too raw for him. the question, will republicans tried to capitalize on a guilty verdict, and if so, what manifestation? we have a debate coming up. it s not beyond the realm that donald trump will not try to use something during the debate and what we ve been surprised to see is how little republicans are talking about the hunter biden trial including trump himself. it doesn t come up that much. it used to be a topic of discussion but not recently. you wonder if that s because they don t want to draw attention to trump s own legal mishaps or tested it out and realize there might be boomerang effect where people are sympathetic or empathetic to joe biden if you go after his son, part of what the issue is, issue of addiction. carol, no topic. your paper, the washington post , has this story out over the weekend about the trump ally with a quote post constitutional vision for a second term. the man s name is russell, what can you tell us about this? beth reinhard on our national investigative team for this great reporting that presages the future and right donald trump presidency. the kinds of people he is entrusting to make the plans for his new administration. he was a deputy omb director and had been in congress as a staffer for a long time and other federal agencies. he knows his way around the legislative and the executive parts of our government. he is using that knowledge to broadly expand the powers of the executive, if trump takes office. to the point of saying he will find a way for the justice department to prosecute and imprison those who he feels is wrongly gone after the president in the past including journalists. that includes political figures think the biden family members. he has said rather he is said to confidantes that he would work very hard to loosen the military s ability to take action at the president s command to stop protests that are against the president. to interfere perhaps in elections. the military would be an entity the president could send it to domestic situations and something we have avoided ever since the horrors of kent state for example. it s a person who believes in the unitarian executive theory but is proposing things behind closed doors. he may end up being the chief of staff for the president. he is proposing things that send a chill up the spine of those who really study democracy and its norms. here s my head scratcher. there s a lot of conservatives who say they do not like trump what they like his policies. these are the same people who are all about small government with limited power. this, this man and this plan. isn t that the complete opposite of small government, limited power? this is big government with ultimate power. well, i think one thing you have highlighted on your program consistently, if i can give you a hat tip, is the idea of the hypocrisy. the republican party for as long as i have been a reporter which i m embarrassed to tell you how long it has been, has always been about criminal justice and serious tough law enforcement. it s been the party of being concerned about foreign adversaries, rough it russia chief among them but that s all out the window now with trump as president. putin is a great guy and the new republican party. he is a fan of donald trump therefore he is awesome. getting tough on criminals? not important anymore because we really want to support certain criminals who have been unfairly, and to use this in quotation marks, unfairly persecuted. that is the line the republican party is pushing. again, this notion of big government as being anathema to the government party is out the window as well. if it suits donald trump. that s the litmus test for republicans who want to stay in power. people can vote how they like but it s our job to shine a light so people understand exactly who and what they are voting for. carol, was great to see you. sam, charles thank you. nine months into the war and five americans are still being held hostage by hamas. why the white house is considering a new strategy for negotiations. after months in a dead heat in the polls with trump, president biden is revving up his engines and maybe even changing lanes. the 11th hour just getting underway on a monday night. da. with absorbine pro, pain won t hold you back from your passions. it s the only solution with two max-strength anesthetics to deliver the strongest numbing pain relief available. so, do your thing like a pro, pain-free. absorbine pro. norman, bad news. i never graduated from med school. what? -but the good news is. xfinity mobile just got even better! now, you can automatically connect to wifi speeds up to a gig on the go. plus, buy one unlimited line and get one free for a year. i gotta get this deal. i know. faster wifi and savings? .i don t want to miss that. that s amazing doc. mobile savings are calling. visit xfinitymobile.com to learn more. doc? nbc news has exclusive new reporting on a possible new strategy from the u.s. to negotiate the release of american hostages still held by hamas. it comes as we get new video the moment israeli forces rescued three hostages over the weekend. andrea mitchell has the latest. reporter: tonight, the dramatic moment when three of the four hostages were rescued. you can hear gunfire as officers approach a family home in the middle of a refugee camp. finding the hostages inside of back room. officers asking further names as the hostages answer back. andre, he says. the daytime mission leader resulting in a firefight the idf says as hamas seven fire on the hostages and rescuers as they escape. the high death toll of palestinians potentially complicating delicate cease- fire negotiations with hamas. secretary of state tony blinken in israel dominica must agree to a deal. israel accepted the proposal. the only party that has not accepted and the only one that has not said yes is hamas. that s who everyone is waiting on. reporter: they were taken during the terror attacks at the music festival. 26 years old who became the face of the hostage were. seen on the back of a motorbike being kidnapped. her boyfriend still held captive tonight. hugging her father and reunited with her mother who was terminally ill. a 21-year-old coming home just one day after his father died but arriving before his mother s birthday. i could not stop poking him. tomorrow is my birthday so i got my presence. thank you. a 40-year-old aunt 127. falling to his knees when he was reunited with his mom. while their celebrations in israel, and gaza there is morning. the hamas run gazan health ministry which does not distinguish between combatant and civilian death said 274 palestinians were killed in the rescue mission including 64 children, one woman telling our crew. my house is destroyed. reporter: this is nbc news reporting exclusively the u.s. is discussing a new move if cease-fire talks fail making a unilateral deal with of the most to release the remaining american hostages. negotiating through qatar and without israel. according to ginger current and former senior u.s. officials. my number 1 priority as secretary of state is to ensure the well-being of americans who are in harms way anywhere in the world. reporter: as your top priority, wouldn t indirect talks for the americans at least bring those americans home? the most effective way to achieve that, get them home, is through the proposal on the table. let s see if we get an answer from hamas. for more, peter baker white house chief correspondent for the new york times . is this a sign the white house is frustrated with the pace of negotiations between israel and hamas? obviously, it s been nine months and these american hostages have been there the entire time. the american government has deferred to the israeli government when it comes to dealing with the hostages. they have dual citizenship and israel is on the ground and united states is not. it suggests an in patients with the biden administration that its own hostage, american hostages, remain in limbo while netanyahu and hamas remain at odds over the cease-fire proposal. you heard secretary blank and say that it s hamas that has yet to accept this proposal. i think that s important point they want to make that israel has agreed to this despite the public ambiguity. right now, they re frustrated it s taking so long and seems to not be heading toward a conclusion and they seem to be willing to think of ways to get the americans at this point out if there s a way to do it. president biden is not the only one expressing frustration. benny gantz just resigned from israel s work cabinet saying it s a prime minister and he is standing in the way a real victory. what does that signal to you about the state of the war effort and prospects for new elections over there? it s a big deal and it s been remarkable to work cabinet has hung together as long as it did. benny gantz has run against netanyahu multiple times and the idea they sat together in this work cabinet is a remarkable situation. it s hard to imagine joe biden and donald trump sitting together in a unity government. at this point, he s decided enough is enough and it s not working. the prime minister netanyahu is an obstacle toward a resolution to the conflict rather than a leader. that puts netanyahu in an awkward position but it may require him to rely even more so on his far right-wing coalition to stay in power. he has to appeal to the parts of his coalition that he himself might affect comfortable in order to keep his majority they can avoid further elections. we will have to see where it leads. there s not much chance or at least not a lot of optimism for prime minister netanyahu they could win another election but he s been an enduring figure for a long time and israeli politics. let s stick with the right wing and change locations. you were just in france and when president biden was there, he spent a lot of time trying to reassure nato allies who are nervous about a second trump term. i want to know how his message was received and we keep hearing about our european allies, worried about trump, but there were a bunch of elections that took place last week in europe and they were big winds for the far right. it s not just a u.s. issue but it s happening over there as well. it s not just a u.s. issue. the european elections on sunday were a remarkable shift in power toward the right. you saw macron of france who host a president biden the night before at the state dinner where they held hands and effect in favor of establishment politics, and also rock that he s calling new elections in france himself to see if he cannot win over his own public where he is not very popular re-there. these guys will get together in italy at a g7 meeting and they will talk about these issues like gaza, ukraine, do. president biden has a low approval rating, his at home is higher than some of the other leaders who will be at the summit. there s a time when the establishment politicians of the major industrial powers are on their back heels a little bit amid this right-wing populism we are seeing in europe and the united states. peter, you always make a smarter. thank you for being here. when we come back, stubborn polls and has the biden campaign getting a read data revving up the race in the 11th hour. hour. if you re one of the millions of people with diabetes who suffer from low and high blood sugar, dexcom g7 is one of the easiest ways to take better control of your diabetes. my blood sugar would suddenly spike or really go low out of nowhere. it was really scary. 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(announcer) dexcom g7 helps protect against highs and lows. call now! the biden campaign is making big changes after listening to months of public and private concerns from democrats. their switching up the style and launching major policy initiatives both to lockdown voters already on board while trying to pull new ones in. i want to bring it msnbc contributor brian tyler: and former adviser to george w. bush and john mccain. were not talking one or two small changes. the president is revamping his policy portfolio and will refer to trump is a convicted felon and he sitting for interviews beyond traditional media. you to sit down with vice president harris. what do you make of these changes? i think it is smart. reach people where they are. people are getting their news from less traditional outlets and people are watching the news less frequently anyway and people are checking out. it s smart to reach these people where they are and find them where they are not paying attention to the more traditional issues. the biden campaign recognizes whatever it has to do as we head toward crunch time. this is not just about his base. it s nikki haley voters, independence, and never trumper s. the people who could make or break the election which is currently by a lot of polls in a dead heat while press former president trump is not looking beyond his base. will this work for biden? well, yeah, he has to look beyond the base. that s where the election will be decided. i remember when the bush campaign was in trouble in 2000. we had to do a reset and we got pushed into it. we didn t want to do it and ultimately we decided we needed to because we had to. part of it was making changes but a big part is doing a reset for the press and the larger public to say, we heard the message. we are doing things differently. it makes sense practically speaking and make sense of the speaking that you are sending a message that you heard the message and we are doing things differently. in this campaign, it s so razor thin that biden has to do everything right and this is one of them. this is good. one of the things he needs to do is turn up the volume on the things donald trump is saying. they are seizing on some of the comments that trump made it his nevada rally this weekend. i will share a bit. you feel that? i don t want anybody going we need every vote. i just want your vote. i don t care about you. what i just heard him say, i don t care about you. i just want your vote. did the rally attendees here this? what? did they hear that? they have selective hearing. donald trump can say anything on god s green earth and they will cheer on cue. it s important that americans more broadly here it because that s him giving the game away. he doesn t care about anybody. trump s only goal is to keep himself out of prison. to make prosecutions against them go away. he has brought forward no plans to lower costs. nothing to lower health care costs. nothing to increase the amount of jobs. he has no plans for housing or inflation. his campaign is predicated on keeping himself out of prison, out of the courtrooms, and making the cases go away. and a revenge tour against the people who deign to hold him accountable for his crimes. it s a rare instance, less rare these days because he has a proclivity to see the quiet part out loud. he is saying it. if you want an example of someone who treats supporters with nothing but contempt, it someone like donald trump standing there on that stage and basically telling them what he thinks about them. what i like to hear about is the truth mark and billions of dollars in infrastructure funding has made its way across the country thanks to president biden s massive infrastructure bill now law. suddenly, we are seeing some house republicans taking credit for these jobs that were created but for facts say, the same republicans voted against the bill. to their constituents who might not pay attention to traditional politics or watch the news, do they know the new truth? these guys are taking credit for things they voted against. they are not going to hear the truth. let me make another point on the las vegas speech and the ad. there is another ad i think the biden campaign which is the best of the campaign which is donald trump in his voice talking about veterans. i think they should leave that up through election day. it s spectacularly good and impactful. trump has been complaining about it and we call that as hit dogs barking. you know he s feeling the pain so it is working. as a former ad guy, the most effective thing you can do is not say what you think the person said but let them say what they said themselves. it is great. brian, i want to go back to the infrastructure point. if you the biden campaign are running and local elections, what do you do about the fact that you have some house republicans patting themselves on the back, taking credit for passing things they voted against? i think they done an effective job at exposing these people. biden said it out loud when he was in lauren boebert s district that she tried to take credit for the infrastructure plan. it s getting into these districts and doing the side-by- side. the media has been great about showing side by sides where it s donald trump railing against toilets not flushing and trying to keep himself out of prison and biden talking about $35 inhalers. $35 insulin and $2000 a month health care plans and things that will impact regular people. they been good about that side- by-side but it s getting out there and hammering the message over and over and over again. they often say what is the one thing that a politician did to change your life or help you in some way? you got to show people. thank you both for being here. stay up for this. coach steve kerr when he talks, everybody listens. the nine time nba champion is here next. is being endorsement in the selection and is taking caitlin clark s first month in the pros. pros. switch to shopify so you can build it better, scale it faster and sell more. much more. take your business to the next stage when you switch to shopify. are you still struggling with your bra? it s time for you to try knix. makers of the world s comfiest wireless bras. for revolutionary support without underwires, and sizes up to a g-cup, find your new favorite bra today at knix.com hi, i m jason. i ve lost 228 pounds on golo. and sizes up to a g-cup, changing your habits is the only way that gets you to lose the weight. and golo is the plan that s going to help you do that. just take the first step, go to golo.com. in the last 10 days, we have had elderly black people killed in a supermarket in buffalo. asian churchgoers killed in southern california and now we have children murdered at school. when are we going to do something? ! i am tired. i am so tired of getting up here and offering condolences to the devastated families out there. i am so tired of the excuse i m sorry, i m tired of the moments of silence. enough. steve kerr is best known as an nba champion player and coach. most sports fans know him as a fantastic communicator and every postgame press conference where he broke through and spoke to america was when he spoke from the heart after the mass shooting in uvalde, texas. last week, steve kerr announced he will be endorsing joe biden for president and we will find out why. he joins us now. it s a pleasure to see you. tell us why this endorsement and why now? it s clear that president biden is interested in implementing gun safety measures. common sense gun violence prevention measures. i have been doing a lot of work the last 10 years with a lot of different gun safety prevention people like brady, giffords, sandy hook promise, march for our lives. i have learned so much and i know we can prevent lives. president biden is adamant that he is going to push for commonsense laws that can do that. i know trump will not do that, and so it s a simple choice for me. are you voting for joe biden against donald trump? i am voting for joe biden. i think the biggest thing for me, everybody needs to vote their conscience. i am voting on a few issues, but this is the main one. i lost my father to gun violence when i was 18 years old so i know how much pain people go through every single day in this country. i know gun violence is the number 1 killer of children in america. i know there is so much we can do about this. i think most people out there agree with me whether you are republican or democrat. 80% of people in this country want universal background checks , doesn t matter your political affiliation. we can do this but we have to steer the cruise ship. it will take time. we need to implement laws that the vast majority of our country want and president biden is willing to do the work to try to get those changes. you have said in the past that before you lost your father, as you said when you were only 18, you felt her life was impenetrable. nothing could get you down and bad things did not happen to you. what do you say to the folks out there who thinks gun violence is a problem but it will not affect their life so they don t make it a voting priority. you just don t know. it s such a common occurrence. the chances are likely that you will not be impacted, but there s a good chance that you will also. that is a scary thought. i have a granddaughter who is 18 months old. i am thinking about when she goes to kindergarten and she will have to go through mass shooting drills, and the trauma the kids all across america go through just from those drills and the possibility of facing that kind of situation. it is so traumatizing, and it s a terrible thought that all our children are feeling this way. again, we know that comm laws save lies. they absolutely do. there s so much we can do and it s my civic project that i like to work on is trying to help get, as i said, the ship moving. it will take a lot of work. it s up to us as private citizens to insist the government take the necessary moves to make that happen. there s a lot of public figures who share your views. many did endorse president biden in 2020, but many are staying quiet now. expressing public views right now is getting more and more difficult. the backlash is real. this is not going to be easy for you and you will get heat by all sorts of people. why did you decide to speak out? it s too important to save lives and it s important to do something that s important for our country. not that i can do anything by myself, but i do have a platform. if i can get the message out there, it is so important for families to talk about this issue. neighbors, friends, this is not an attack on the second amendment. this is about implementing things that can save lives. again, it could be your own child. your own mother or father, could be you. we have to understand the gravity of gun violence in our country and not just pass it off as this is the price of freedom. that s what a lot of people say. we have to have the freedom that the second amendment provides us, but it should be kids able to go to school and not being afraid. there are ways to do this. we can protect the second amendment and protects citizens with simple laws. we just have to get everybody on board. it is such a political hot button but it s not a common thought in our country that this is a controversial issue. it is not. 80% of people want universal background checks. we should have that, and that alone would save hundreds if not thousands of lives every year in america. you said it right there. it s a political hot button but not when you go in people s homes and use it other tables and talk about what matters to them. i do want to talk about something else that matters to you that you know a lot about and that s obviously basketball. you played with michael jordan. you know how this superstar was treated early, and the attention he got. given your first-hand knowledge, what do you think of caitlin clark s treatment so far in the wnba? i think it is a rite of passage for young players whether the wnba or nba. other players will test you. she reminds me a lot of steph curry. a lot of people may not remember this but in his first couple of years he was not a superstar. he is not who he is now. he had to get stronger and had to understand people were coming after him. that is what is happening with caitlin right now . it s all in the name of competition. she is handling herself beautifully. she is an amazing player but like every college player who comes in, it takes time and they ve got to get stronger and more used to the contact, physicality and athleticism. she will be fine and everything she s going through now is part of being a pro. what do you think of the fact she won t be at the olympics? i am so excited. i am sorry that she won t be there but she ll have a great chance in four years. when you put these teams together, all you care about is winning. it s probably going to take caitlin a couple of years to be at the top echelon. the women s team is taking the 12 players they think can help bring home the gold and that s with the men s team did. that is the name of the game so no politics in the olympics. we just want to win. and i sure hope you do this year. nobody remembers when steph curry was not an absolute superstar. it s always great to see you and thank you for joining us tonight. we will have more of the 11th hour. 11th hour. rt working on contact to target tough pain at the source. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. new advil targeted relief. hi, i m jason. i ve lost 228 pounds on golo. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. i don t ever want to go back to wearing a 4xl shirt or not being able to climb up stairs without taking a break. so i m committed to golo for life. thank you for watching. we were just talking about the summer olympics, it s worth noting, that minutes from now, we will officially be two years out from the 2026 world cup that will take place right here in the u.s. after 30 years, and you can stream all the action live on telemundo and peacock so get your countdown clock started now. on that note, i wish you a very good night. from all our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thank you for staying up late with me. okay, there is a lot going on tonight.
oh like she s still got it. courtney cox, letting the world know. she s still has the moves that she showed off in bruce springsteen s video for dancing in the dark, the friends star joining a social media trend where kids ask their parents to show them how they danced in the 1980s, cox famously appeared in springsteen s 1984 and music video. jumping on stage to boogie with the boss molly ball has your daughter made you do this yet no could you better or worse than a by way waveshape, let s put courtney back first quarter me and her dancing. there yep, there she is. i mean, honestly that i think i could do that might be the limit of my abilities, but that i could do i mean i don t know because i wouldn t want to do it in public, but i m not do not checked doing matt either. all right thanks, guys. every much. appreciate your time today. thanks for all to all of you for joining us. i m casey had don t go anywhere santa new central starts right now all right. breaking overnight for american stabbed in china s the attack centered on social media. and we just learned seconds ago, a suspect has been arrested sit in this attack dangerous for our democracy. this must stop. attorney general merrick garland taking on republican lawmakers and taking them on head-on today as he warned because the attacks on his department are going to get someone hurt jury deliberations resumed today and hunter biden s federal gun trial, the president s son, waiting to hear his fate i m kate bolduan with on vermin cnn s sara sidner is out today. this is cnn news central breaking just seconds to go a suspect arrested in china, connected to the stabbing of four american educators there still questions about if and why these americans were targeted. new video appears to show the aftermath what was quickly centered on chinese social media blood is visible at the scene. the victims are from cornell college in iowa they are in northeast china as part of a partnership with a local university seed and steve john joins us now from beijing with the very latest on this arrest iv. what are you learning? yeah, john, that police of that you just mentioned came from jilin city in northeastern china. as you said, a suspect was caught by the police and now in custody, the police describing him as a 55-year-old local residents with a surname of twain. now, they also add a bit more details in terms of what happened, saying this suspect, according called collided with one of the americans in the park and then somehow decided to use a knife to attack that an american and three companions, as well as a local chinese citizen trying trying to stop this attack. now, the police statement added that none of the injuries were life-threatening and all of the injured people have received prompt m. proctor medical care. now, this is the local authorities breaking their silence more than 24 hours after this horrific incident earlier, we have heard we had heard from the chinese foreign ministry echoing a lot of whether police just said, but also they he used the word isolated incident to describe this case. that s obviously the key message from the government to the outside world. but it is worth pointing out that this kind of violence against foreigner is rare in this country because china s generally considered a safe place to visit with a heavy security police presence, not to mention there are massive surveillance and it s technologies being deployed nationwide. but because it s almost impossible to get hold of gun for most ordinary chinese people, stabbing incidents like this have happened in recent years targeting people ranging from doctors, to school schoolchildren. but again violence against foreigner is rare. that s why this case is receiving so much attention. nine not to mention the timing of this attack, couldn t have come at a worse time for the chinese government because they re leader xi jinping has been personally promoting the resumption and expansion of the so-called people-to-people exchanges between the two countries after the two governments finally, somewhat stabilized their fragile relationship. xi jinping, wow, in san francisco november personally said, china was ready to host 50,000 young americans in the coming five years for study and exchange programs. just last year, she i just last week actually, excuse me, xi jinping wrote a letter to a new jersey, new jersey college stressing the importance of this kind of exchanges. so if this incident somehow ends up dampening america two kinds interest and enthusiasm in coming back to china, i think that we consider, considered quite a major setback for the chinese leader john kth, china, china wants you as students there and us money there. and this is the video we re looking at right now. you can see the victims clearly are on the ground. this video again has been centered on chinese social media. one suspect now in custody, steve. thank you so much for that update. keep us posted on new developments. also, do this morning, a scathing public statement by attorney general merrick garland just published in the washington post to garland riding in an op-ed is warning against what he calls the unfounded attacks and department of justice that he says is putting his staff and democracy in danger. the attorney general saying this in part, using conspiracy theories, false hoods, violence, and threats of violence to effect political outcomes is not normal. the short-term political benefits of those tactics we ll, tactics will never make up for the long-term cost to our country. and even though he does not say republicans anywhere in this op-ed, it is clear who he is referring to, quite frankly, garland also saying this at one point, these attacks come in the form of threats to defund particular department investigations. most recently, the special council s prosecution of the former president, the attorney general s rare public rebuke comes right as house republicans are preparing to take the next step today and charging him with contempt of congress seen as lauren fox has more adding to the attention around this movement today is now this opinion piece from the attorney one general. what is going to happen in the house today? lauren yeah. okay. what you re going to see in just a couple of hours is the house rules committee will convene to consider these two resolutions to hold garland in contempt. now, what this does is it is the first step to get it to the house floor. we do expect that that action could to happen later this week. one of the question marks since these two resolution s passed in the judiciary and oversight committees, was whether or not house republican leadership had the votes to actually advance them on the floor. obviously, they re feeling very confident about that, or they wouldn t be moving this through the rules committee today. but again, how speaker for my johnson can only afford to lose two republicans and still get this across the finish line. what this would ultimately do is these resolutions would instruct the house speaker to refer garland for potential criminal charges from the attorney in washington, dc. again, it is very unlikely that that would happen, but this is not without some precedents. if you remember, house republicans actually held eric holder in contempt of congress democrats held william barr in contempt of congress. nothing ultimately came of that, but that just shows you that there is a record and there is a history of the opposing party holding the president s attorney general in contempt of congress. and we should just note this all stems over a dispute over whether or not the attorney general should release the special counsel s audio interview with president joe biden. those transcripts have been released, but house republicans say that they want the audio of the interview to continue their investigation into joe biden lauren. good to see you. thank you so much. let s see what happens today. also with us, also for us, this coming up for us right now, is that your teres day and one blinken is in jordan to discuss how to get think more critical humanitarian aid into gaza. and also with that, putting more pressure on hamas to accept a ceasefire deal. and it s already expensive enough to buy a home but a new report shows the cost of maintaining one are skyrocketing as well, and new details this morning about the payouts for passengers of that singapore airlines flight that hits such dangerous turbulence that one person died. we ll be back 19th cnn celebrates junzi, which special performances by john legend, eddie lewbel, smokey robinson we still have a lot of work to do. june teeth and celebrating freedom and legacy wednesday, june 19 at ten on cnn, it s so easy to get your windshield replaced using safe flight, tell the people why you haven t done it? already. my moment, let s start off as a chip and grew to a crack and it just keeps going. so what do we do 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spring and seen as matt egan, he s got more on this digging into these what s going to be sobering numbers, what s going on here? well, a lot of people probably think that once they buy their first home, they re done, right? but in reality, they re just getting started because there s all of these hidden costs of homeownership and they can really add up bank rate found that on average americans are spending 18 thousand dollars a year to own and maintain their home. that is obviously a lot of money when you think about it, it s almost like the cost of buying a used car a year. this is 26% more than in 2020. and of course this is all on top of your mortgage payment, right? we re talking about the cost of energy, the cost of property taxes and the biggest drivers according to bankrate or the fact that it s gotten more expensive to maintain a home. and also the cost of home insurance that we ve seen premiums spike, right? for two reasons. one, it s the fact that there s the climate crisis has made it more likely that there s these disasters, right? we ve seen wildfire person hurricanes and flooding. then the cost of living, labor, materials that s all gone up. so it s more expensive to repair when this happens, i spoke to a woman in california yesterday who told me that her home insurance rate doubled with no notice because of concerns about wildfires on top of that, they have to spend $10,000 to repair the plumbing now, she s taking on extra hours to try to make ends meet and she s not alone, kate? absolutely. does it matter? does it change depending on where you live? it does. it does. not shockingly, some of them more expensive places to own and maintain a home or here in the northeast, we seat new jersey massachusetts, connecticut, of course, all of these states high cost of living also high property taxes. california and hawaii, two very expensive it s a place to live. it s costing almost $30,000 a year. now, we ve also seen a big surge in the cost of owning and maintaining a home in hawaii up by almost 40%, but also big increases since 2020 in idaho and utah as well. these are the three states with you price is going to expense is going up the most. now, on the opposite end of the spectrum, some states has actually become more affordable to own and maintain a home. arkansas, kentucky, mississippi, three of the more affordable places to live there. we ve seen expenses go up at a slower pace, but listen, i think at the end of the de, no matter where you live, the message here is that you ve got a budget for the unexpected, the burst pipe, the home insurance spike, because when it happens, it can be really painful. yeah. and you re also keeping tied to this. you re also keeping then keeping a close watch on an increase of underwater mortgages. that s right. so let me most americans are sitting on a nice cushion of equity because home prices have gone up but there is an increase in some people who are seriously underwater. that means that they 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have being seriously underwater with their mortgages because they ve also seen home prices go down. so you talk about the kind of the complicated web of, it doesn t come without risks and it s all interconnected in a very strange way exactly. it s good to see you, man. thank you so much. so coming up for us, attorney general merrick garland is facing another contempt vote in congress today, and he is not facing it quietly. he s his blistering rebuke of the conspiracy theories that he says are endangering the department of justice, the people working there, and democracy and the white house is celebrating black history with an early juneteenth celebration this election season, stay with cnn with more reported here s on the ground. and the best political team in the business follow the voters, follow the results, follow the facts follow. cnn we just signed the lease on our third shop. my assistant went accustoming.com to get new uniforms with all the locations. he felt great products 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come from egypt. and then here he met with prime minister benjamin netanyahu, the defense minister, the leader of the opposition, and benny gantz, who until just a couple of days ago, was a member of the war cabinet before he resigned from the israeli perspective. that s everybody you d have to meet with two potentially get israel to agree to a ceasefire proposal once it s at that stage, but blinken knows he s still has work to do and that s why he s now in jordan and then going to meet qatari officials who ve been a key mediator here. he s trying to move this forward even after the events of the weekend and a hostile a hostage rescue operation in israel that killed scores of palestinians, incidents like that have brought negotiations to a grinding halt in the past he is trying to push them forward. the proposal on the table right now, here is the rough outline phase one would see a cessation to hostilities temporarily that would allow for more negotiations. to take place. a hostage release, palestinians released from prisons as well, and hostages remains released. that then would lead to phase two. that s a withdrawal of israeli forces, a permanent end to hostilities. that conclusion of the hostage release and then phase three would be the rebuilding of gaza from the us perspective, and the biden administration s perspective, they believe they have israel in a position where they ll agree to this. the question for blinken, does hamas and specifically hamas s leader in gaza, yahya sinwar agree we await the answer from hamas, and that will speak volumes about what they want, what they re looking before, who they re looking after are they looking after one guy who may be for now safe, very i don t know ten storeys underground somewhere in gaza as a while the people that he purports to represent continue to suffer and across fire of his own making or will he do what s necessary? to actually move this to a better place to help him the suffering of people, to help bring real security to israelis and palestinians alike hamas has made some positive noises about a un security council resolution that passed in the last 24 hours or so, calling for a permanent end to hostilities. but there is still the details to be worked out and that john is where this has certainly fallen apart in the past. that s what blinken is trying to prevent right now and his whirlwind of meetings through region yeah. just about every time in the past it has fallen apart when it gets to those details are in lieberman. thanks so much. keep us posted on what you here. also new this morning conspiracy theories, falsehoods, and unfounded threats of violence must stop that s from the attorney general, merrick garland speaking out this morning in a new opinion piece to defend his agency and also call out really no uncertain terms the people and politicians attacking the department of justice. garland saying in part, quote in recent weeks, we have seen an escalation of attacks that go far beyond public scrutiny and criticism and legitimate necessary oversight of our work. there baseless, personal and dangerous also saying disagreements about politics are good for our democracy. their normal. but using conspiracy theory is false hoods violence, and threats of violence to effect political outcomes is not normal they are dangerous for our democracy. this must stop joining me right now. democratic congressman greg meeks from new york, he is the top democrat on the house foreign affairs committee. congressman, thank you for being here. this of course, is as republicans are moving forward with another step today toward potentially a full house vote on a contempt of congress charge against the attorney general. what impact will this have? nothing it s again another false allegations. and when the republicans have virtually done nothing in their majority, nothing for the american people. they keep coming up with plots in investigations and hearings that mean absolutely. and turns out to be nothing there s nothing burgers this is you know, i ve been in congress for over 26 years and this is like nothing ever before. we should be doing legislative work. there s a lot of things that we need to be doing should be doing in a collective manner, in a bipartisan manner for the american people, oftentimes, you ve seen hakeem jeffries and democrats step-up to do the kind of thing that the american people need. but these illness investigations and virtually every committee okay. just about every committee, mike committee on foreign affairs we ve had and had to debunk these false allegations from time to time and time again. so it s just something that is i think horrendous and needs to stop. and let s do work for the american people fact that they re moving into rules committee. do you think republicans could only lose two votes? do you think that suggests they have the votes to push this through luck? i don t know what they re dysfunctioning is an oftentimes to get certain things out of the rules that were important for the american people. it took democrats to get that done. so whether they have the votes to get it out of the rules, whether they just don t want we don t want to try to divert the american people s attention away from the a candidate who has been convicted as a felon whether they are trying to close their eyes to the fact or the damage they ve done to ukraine by holding the supplemental 46 months so it seems to me that they are trying to pull a bait and switch the try to keep the people s attention away from what is really taking place in the house of representatives, which is absolutely nothing to talk about what happened here in new york yesterday, un security council approving a hostage, throwing their support behind a hostage and ceasefire deal for israel and hamas the fact that they could agree on anything is a big deal considering how divided the council has been and divided the un has been over this war. and tony blinken said this morning that in meetings netanyahu reaffirmed his commitment to that peace proposal do you do you we have not heard from netanyahu publicly endorsing a peace proposal. do you does it concern you that we have not? i think that the fact that you see secretary blinken there you see the cia director burns there brett mcgurk there, and talking to the various people in the region. i think that the israeli people we see them talking about, they want a deal. everyone wants a deal and that s why i think it s important to now and what should be focused or hamas. and have hamas to agree to a deal i m so happy we ve got those four hostages home. but there was prices to pay for that. and the way to prevent the price of death for innocent individuals and putting israeli soldiers in harm s way is to have a deal done. it is time to do a deal. and i think that president biden has shown the great leadership that he always does and pulling people together that we should be able to get a deal done saudi arabia, once a deal and this then begins to talk about what takes place after there s a deal which was what benny gantz was talking about, which is really important, which and still remains a huge question right now, the house has passed a sanctions bill against the international criminal court for moving to seek for a seek arrest warrants against including benjamin netanyahu for what the court had said was they saw crimes against humanity and war crimes 42 democrats joined republicans in the house to support the sanctions vote. the white house does not support it, but i want to play, i want to play for you. one of the democrats who voted with republicans jared moskowitz, listen to this the ic50, she s saying is outrageous. okay. they have no jurisdiction over israel. they had no jurisdiction over syria. in fact, the icc s specifically said, well, the reason why we didn t go after assad for war crimes we didn t issue a warrant at after he killed 300,000 civilians with chemical weapons, by the way, gassing them it s because, we, don t have jurisdiction. well, they don t have jurisdiction here with israel, but now we have a made-up rule, right? it s, it s magical. all of a sudden they gave themself jurisdiction when they don t have any so that s why it was critical that we pass this bill yesterday on a bipartisan basis you voted against this this very same bill. why are you write and moscowitz wrong on this one? first of all, it s premature. what we had is a prosecutor who applied for a subpoena for the arrest of mr. netanyahu and of sinwar from hamas that hasn t happened is premature. number one. number two, it undermined some because we celebrated that too long ago when the icc did appropriately, it was went to the judges and the judges decided that they would ask for the arrest of mr. putin. should he do? who something of that nature not clearly what is wrong is the prosecutor. and i think that the the bill that passed was so wide in sanctioning allies would, would have been sanctioned and other individuals who are friends that it was just too much. and what we need to focus on narrowly is that prosecutor, to try to equate israel to hamas? that is absolutely condemn able. and something that we are all upset about. and so there s a way that we could work together. and if it was a singularly focused that regard to think that we could have talked about it. but this bill was far too broad it had unintended consequences that would hurt our relationships with numbers around the world a lot on your plate right now, congressman, thanks for coming in. really appreciate your time. thank you. all right very shortly jury deliberations resume in hunter biden s federal gun case. the president s son has pleaded not guilty to three felony counts related to a 2018 gun purchase. with this now, former deputy assistant attorney general, tom dupree, counselor. great to see you this morning. the jury gets back shortly. they walk into the deliberation room. what do you thanks at the top of their minds well, it s a good question, john and i think today is the day we re finally going to get a verdict in this case. i think when the jury resumes its deliberations today, my guess is they re probably going to start marching through all the evidence. i thought the prosecutors and their closing argument did a good job and reminding the jury that regardless of the fame one of the defendant, his last name, he is the son of the president, the jury s task is to focus on the evidence, and i suspect that the jury will go about that task this morning. i suspect they re going to march through and discuss what they heard from all witnesses. the physical evidence, and then really begin focusing their attention on reaching a decision the prosecution overtly referred to the people in the gallery, hunter biden s family, really that has been coming to this trial. why do you think that is? because the defense hasn t exactly i mean, they ve been there and supportive hunter biden right? i think the prosecution here is addressing the elephant in the room. they are acknowledging implicitly, but acknowledging that this is the son of the president who has standing trial, and that the jury can look out and see the first lady, the united states, and other political celebrities. this is obviously a family that is very well known in delaware many of the jurors have had some sort of interaction or at least are pretty familiar with the biden family. and so i think it was the prosecutors way of basically saying, look, let s step back, let s focus on the task at hand and let s put aside any sympathy or any feelings that we may have for this famous defendant and his famous family as all defense lawyers try to do abbe lowell, you re actually seeing a sketch of him, right there has tried to give jurors than a narrow out of reasonable doubt in that is to paraphrase here roughly that hunter biden in his mind it was not addicted to drugs when he signed a form that said he wasn t addicted to drugs on that day in that day alone at the moment the pen hit the paper, hunter biden didn t think he was addicted to drugs. that s the defense argument. there is that something is that enough for jurors to grab onto board? i think that is a pretty narrow path. look, i think that s an argument that a lawyer, tim love. i m not sure. juror is going to love it. i suspect that the jury is going to say that the law doesn t require that hunter biden was using drugs the morning and he purchased the gun. are the hour before or after he purchased the gun? i think they are going to say did he buy this gun and fill out that form at a point in his life when he was abusing crack, when he was under the influence of controlled substances, when he was addicted to controlled substances. and my hunch is that they are not going to parse the law as finally, in his name he really is the defense lawyers are doing that said, i understand their strategy. i 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white house, with much more on this. what was the president s message? well, kate, president biden, use this june teeth celebration event to stress that he remains committed to protecting and advancing the rights of black americans in this country. he, in his remarks argued that black history is american history three and he did not mention donald trump or any risks specific republican opponents by name. but the president was seeking to really draw an implicit contrast with republicans. he spoke out against book bans, attacks on diversity programs, as well as efforts to restrict voting. take a listen to what he had to say. we re all goes new garments trying to take his back well, there are taking it away. your freedom to make it harder. her black people to vote wow, or have your vote counted. closing doors of opportunity, attacking the values of diversity, equity, and inclusion now the president s message comes as black voters are expected to be a key part heading into the november election, the biden campaign and administration in recent weeks have really been i m trying to tell some of their works to help the black community talking about things like wiping out student loan debt, copying the price of insulin as well as other economic advancements for the black community. but if you take a look at polling, former president donald trump has made gains a with black voters in this election. if you take a look at a recent poll from the new york times and sienna college. while biden wasn t head with about 63% of support from black voters. donald trump had 23%. that s a historic high for republicans uk crossing that 20% margin. now, if you take a look at 20:20 you ve seen a much wider gap in that contest. black voters really made up a key part of biden s constituency back in 2020. and campaign advisers acknowledged they have more work to do heading into this election, especially as we have seen, this narrowing of support. so as you saw the president s remarks, you saw in recent events, thinking back to his speech at morehouse college, speech at an n double acp events out in detroit. the biden campaign working to hold onto that and rebuild that support from black voters, which will once again be key if he s trying to win a second term to the white house arlette time. thank you so much. john new fall out this morning after donald trump vowed to walk side-by-side with a group of conservative political activists that opposes abortion in all cases and calls the procedure child sacrifice in a video message, trump touted his past accomplishments on the pro-life agenda and said that democrats are against their religion, cnn s alayna treene is here now with the very latest alaina while good morning, john. yes. donald trump addressed this suit group. it was part of their southern baptist convention and annual meeting that they have and he really honed in on saying luck democrats are against your religion as, as you mentioned, and tried to convince them to continue to support his campaign. what i find really interesting about this is because with donald trump, he has been kinda, he s waffled on abortion over the past year. it s really not an issue that he wants to discuss. however, when he is put in front of these groups, particularly ones that but are very much against abortion. he very much leans into what he has done for the evangelical community and also people and groups that are against abortion as well. take a listen to what he said last night. now is the time for us to all pull together and to stand up for our values and for our freedoms. and you just can t vote democrat. they re against religion there, against your religion in particular, i know that each of you is protecting those values every day and i hope we ll be defending them side-by-side for your next four years. these are gonna be your years now, john, as i mentioned before, i just want to make very clear what donald trump is trying to do here. he is trying to convince these groups that they have to vote for him. and then if they vote for republicans, that they ll try to continue to undo some of the work he did while in office, which of course touting his stacking of the court with three very conservative supreme court justices that helped overturn roe versus wade. but i will say, as we often hear from donald trump, he likes to tout that he was the most pro life president in history. he s also really angered a lot of abortion active anti-abortion activists by not really taking a position on a federal ban. he said that he wants to leave abortion up to the states. and so this is really angered a lot of these groups as well. and so this message is really him trying to ensure that these people come out for him in november john alayna treene in washington, atlanta. thanks so much. kate, joining us right now, a cnn senior political commentator, anna navarro and cnn political commentator and democratic strategists. maria cardona. maria, this pushes this would john and alina were just talking about this? pushes abortion once again into the spotlight donald trump did not include any specifics on abortion policy, what it support what he doesn t support, he doesn t even mention the word abortion at all in that tape or mark. that does what well, he thinks that it s going to help him screen him from being the one that actually was responsible for taking away roe v. wade for taking away women s freedoms and rights to make decisions over our own bodies. but he can t have it both ways, kate, it was very clean here. what he was trying to do in this video, it s very clear what he tries to do whenever he is in front of these christian groups. and in fact, when he is in front of these christian groups most of the time he can t help himself and he brags about being the one that was appointed the three conservative justices who are responsible for for. turning roe v. wade. and so the more that he talks about this even though he doesn t say the word abortion, the better it s going to be for democrats, the better it s going to be for president biden and for everyone frankly, running on this issue about how women should be the ones the only ones to be able to make decisions about our own bodies for themselves, their families, their communities. and that frankly and underscores that this election is about more than just that. it s about our rights, freedoms in general. and it was very rich that he stood there talking about values and freedoms when he is the one that is completely devoid, a value suzanne is the one who s trying to take away our rights and freedoms ana politico has a quote from one trump voter who it says was in the room for these tape remarks at this gathering saying this this from this is coming from a man named rick patrick. he sounded more like a politician who wanted to be elected i voted for him and i plan to vote for him again, but he was not like the other speakers who were here talking about religious things i read that thinking. does that just encapsulate what is president biden s problem though? this guy is not happy about what he heard from the, from the candidate that he says he voted for before for you will vote for again. but it s not like donald trump trying to have it both ways. donald trump but it s not both sides in it, but donald trump at one point saying that he was going to come up with a abortion policy that was going to make everybody happy he s not going to it s not going to stop him from voting for trump, even if he doesn t like what trump is saying about it you know, i think a lot of evangelicals cross that bridge already and they did so in 2016 after they voted for donald trump after they heard him boast about sexual assault on video and take the campaign, to me, it s just so weird, bizarre, right? how many times have we now her trump and history gets? compared him to jesus compare him to being martyred on the cross, crucified, taking all of this pain for us. it s all of these religious jesus like themes that are somehow weaved into donald trump s existence, which sounds as crazy as can be it s crazy for him to say that democrats are against religion at a time when we are led by joe biden, who in my lifetime is the most religious precedent i can recall, is not a christian conservative, is irish half church, boeing practicing catholic look, this hasn t worked for them, but i do think that there s then a come a time when the rubber s going to hit the road, when donald trump is going to be confronted and on a stage like a debate stage, say, a cnn debate stage, and asked, okay, be specific about your abortion the session because yes, on one hand, he takes credit for the dobbs decision. he takes credit for having appointed those judges he goes to groups like this and he makes wales ambiguous, but very specific remarks about abortion criticized this is joe biden on it, but then on in front of other audiences, he says, oh no, just leave it up to the state. well, at some point on some stage he s going to have to come clean an answer or is he not? not yet? very top. let s talk about talk about what is good to talk about in politics. what is good for politics and not, here s an interesting one, donald trump now wondering aloud about taylor swift is apparently coming from an excerpt from a forthcoming book about his work with with the producer of the apprentice. a conversation that took place as in november 2023, trump saying this about taylor swift. i think she s a liberal. she probably doesn t like trump, but she is liberal or is that just an act he asks, she she s legitimately liberal. it s not an act, it surprises me that a country star can be, can be successful, being liberal trump said before the author noted that s with crossover to pop music years ago, the crossover, she, she can, she can do whatever she wants. i would say is it good for politics to take on taylor swift i mean, this is this just goes into that bucket of weird and strange that we are seeing pop up almost every single day in this campaign. kate. but again, i think the more than donald trump
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okay. we have the jurors reconvening this morning. as you pointed out, they they had about an hour of deliberations before the and at the de and the judge said they would just come straight back into the jury deliberation deliberation room and reconvene this morning and go through these three charges they they have a form that tells them the standards, the different elements that they have to unanimously agree on in order to reach a verdict. and those include of course the idea that 100 knowingly violated the law when he bought a firearm in october of 2018, that he knew he was addicted to drugs when he filled out that form and according to process to curators, when he lied in, be in order to be able to get through a background check those are the elements that are at the center of this. we saw the jurors yesterday after about an hour. they seem to have started forming a bond at a couple of them, walked out arm in arm as they exited, smiling. these are jurors who have been very, very attentive. they ve been taking notes during this trial over five days over really not a lot in dispute in this case. in the end, they re going to have to reach a verdict on someone who is very well known in this community. you saw the biden family come out in force for them yesterday, 33 rows of seats it s were taken up by members of the community, including an african american church that is doing a prayer service for him every morning, kate talk to me about some of the high points they came out during closing arguments and some of the final things really that the jury heard before they started deliberating yeah. look, it was a very, very tough battle really between this that the lawyers involved here, we had abbe lowell who is 100 attorney, who used a a series of presentations to list what he says. we re holes in the case on the part of the prosecution. he said these were all reasons for reasonable doubt. he also accused prosecutors of rehearsing with witnesses and he accused prosecutors also have been to nail bit noisy. naomi biden, who is a hunter biden s daughter, who testified here, one of the last witnesses and asking her whether she did rugs, something that really caused a lot of emotion from her and from her father that day. on the part of the prosecution, they said, look, hunter biden new, he was addicted to drugs. anyone who puts a crackpipe to their mouth every 15 minutes knows he s an advocate evan perez thank, you so much, kevin, as always, johnson, would this now cnn legal analyst, jennifer rodgers, counselor, we heard from evan there that the prosecution in their closing arguments may direct reference to people in the gallery which included at some points that first lady hunter biden s why biden family members in did so some people who are watching said pretty aggressively, what s your takeaway there? yeah, i was surprised at that. actually, i m not surprised that they address that he had so many supporters there, but i would have done it differently because the risk to the prosecution is that people really sympathize with hundred for biden. there s a narrow pathway for them to find him not guilty, but i think it does require them to really have sympathy for him to get there. and so i would have done it by saying you see, he has a lot of support. we all know addiction is a terrible thing. you might find yourself sympathizing with him, but your job as jurors is to follow the law you have taken an oath that requires you to put aside your sympathy and to look at the facts here. that s what i would have done instead of kinda point, they are not evidence. ignore them. i think that s handling it the wrong way because if they aren t, we don t know for sure, but if they are sympathetic to the biden family you re sort of guilty the jurors are your sort of yelling at them about that? yeah. it s not the right take. i mean, listen in order to acquit or even to hang at least some of them have to find this whole thing about did he knowingly make the false statement? and when you look at all the evidence around his use, not in those two weeks necessarily, but around that time. that s hard to do. so i do feel like the judges have the jury had to do a little bit of nullifying here in order to find him not guilty and guilting them into the sympathy is not the way to avoid that. the judge and the jury instructions seem to make pretty clear that the prosecution version of the law is the one to follow here, which is to say, we don t have to prove that hunter biden knew he was addicted the minute the pen hit the paper right there at that moment or that he was using drugs the minute the pen hit the paper at that moment that s right. and prosecutors always emphasized to use your common sense, right? someone comes out of rehab. they described themselves for years later is an addict. he knows he s an addict. use your common sense but you should find jurors walking hand in hand, eyelid courtroom. that s a little unusual. yeah, i haven t seen that before. they often do get close. they spend a lot of time together sometimes they are at odds, sometimes they re not. it s not uncommon for them to form friendships in the arm in arm, i really haven t heard before. maybe this is a particularly close group, but listen, they need to be closer at least in agreement in order to reach a unanimous verdict. so i suppose that s a good sign for prosecutors know i know people who write lifetime movies. i mean, this could be a good plot. his strange plot for the beginning of something kinda lifetime romance there. the jury is in delaware, which is a very democratic state in wilmington, which is a very biden city that binds have been there for decades it s in decades and decades yeah. how much will that play in the jury room? well, prosecutors are trying to avoid that. this is why they re saying things like, you know, ignore the famous people in the audience and the like, and the judge has told them the same, listen, you have to put aside your preconceived notions about who he is, who the families, and just focus on the law and the facts. but we of course, don t know what they really do in their own heads. and when they re discussing among themselves in the jury room. so we ll see they ve been in there for an hour plus minutes, six minutes, probably at this point, a long deliberation typically benefits the defense. i mean, the longer it goes, the more likely that it s hong it s a simple case, not very many witnesses, if they don t have a verdict today, it s bad news for the prosecutors will stand by. it could come at any moment. jennifer rodgers, thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. thanks happening now, you re sicker of state. antony blinken is in jordan putting new pressure on all parties to accept a ceasefire and hostage deal where the negotiation stand right now, this must stop what attorney general merrick garland says, republican lawmakers are doing. the he says, is dangerous for democracy d. and this why martha s vineyard is running out of pot altered james is cold calculating, cynical, and needs the money not only was the cia compromise, he also was compromised secrets and spies nuclear games. sunday at ten on cnn can the riva support your brain health? 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are they looking after one guy who may be for now safe, very i don t know ten storeys underground somewhere in gaza while the people that he purported it s represent continue to suffer and across fire of his own making or will he do what s necessary to actually move this to a better place? to help him, the suffering of people to help bring real security to israelis and palestinians alike that one guy that secretary blinken is referring to is hamas military leader yahya sinwar. and there is new reporting and the wall street journal about messages purportedly from sinwar to ceasefire negotiators. one message reading, we have the israelis, right where we want them joining us right now is retired lieutenant colonel jonathan cohen, rica. he was the spokesperson for the idf before and after the october 7 attack. can we say how him on many a time he s now a senior fellow with the foundation of defense of democracies. colonel, thank you so much for being here. i want to get to that reporting from the wall street journal with some additional contexts in just a second, but first on what we hear from secretary blinken meeting with netanyahu and he also not only said there was consensus, he said that netanyahu reaffirmed his commitment and support of this hostage and ceasefire deal, as it s laid out so far, do you think they are closer than ever before to an actual deal we ve seen steps forward and then how do you read this? i sadly don t. and i m not as positive towards the whole development. i would love to see our hostages home are 120 hostages home? and i would want to see israel defeat hamas and return safety to southern israel and improve the situation in gaza but i think that if you re sinwar is in his text messages, he he hits the nail on the head. sadly. and for months hamas has been manipulating global public opinion using international politics. the differences between washington and jerusalem, and they have basically been able to stay alive and stay out of jail using the hostages for about 345 months and that s something that i think is the core of hamas strategy to delay and delay as much as possible using the hostages and kind of try to derail israeli operations in gaza so that the war will end without israel defeating hamas. that s the zero-sum game. and i think that s sinwar doesn t really have a strong incentive they ve to go ahead and release hostages and basically end the war because that is his best tool to stay alive and to keep hamas empowering gaza. let me ask you about that. so the wall street journal reporting, cnn is not seeing the wall street journal message. the message is that the wall street journal s reporting cannot confirm the authenticity of them. still, i want to read some more of the reporting from the journal. we have the israelis right where we want them. we read. it was one message and these are messages to the negotiators of the sea, to the ceasefire negotiators is what and this is another one in one message two, hamas leaders in doha, sin more cited civilian losses and national liberation conflict thaksin places such as algeria, where hundreds of thousands of people died fighting for independence from france saying quote, these are necessary sacrifices here s the thing. if this is the case, if this is the zero sum game that you re talking about, if this is the strategy how does israel take on hamas take out hamas deal with sinwar without playing into his hands that s a good question, and i think that the israeli strategy has been so far to try to get to sinwar, get to the senior leadership of hamas so far not succeeding probably because he is hidden underground with lots of israeli hostages surrounding him as human shields and so far what israel said he hasn t been able to do is to advance fast enough and to get to sinwar and basically decide the battle it took israel many months of staging in order to finally get into rafah. there was tremendous outcry and there were protests that israel shouldn t and mustn t go into rafah. israel easing enough. and there s no humanitarian catastrophe and there s no mass casualty event which proves that is can and should do what it s doing. here is a humanitarian crisis throughout gaza now you ve definitely yes, but i m talking there s not a slaughter and not a catastrophe like people warned that there will you think some have thought hoped maybe conjectured that the rescue operation from the weekend could have changed the calculus. they re getting three men out, men that were not supposed to be in the first batch of any ceasefire negotiation can getting those hostages. do you think do you think that changes the calculations are discussing for hamas? do you think that could scare them to the table it s a very happy event, but eventually it only proves that i think it strengthens the case of getting hostages out via negotiations because i don t think that is what has the intelligence capacity or the otherwise military capacity to get more hostages out like this, because this was a top of the shelf special operations with weeks of preparation, intel tip of the spear israeli commando units i ve got in gaza job done, got the hostages out and i don t think that will sadly have the ability to do so over and over again. and i don t think that it changes the calculation and i think that iran hizballah or a much bigger threat, you know, we re focused on gaza and small details in gaza. the big deal and the big threat to regional stability is hizballah against this. well, and if you look at where alarms or sounding most in israel, it s in northern israel and its rockets and drones, et cetera. and sadly, when you re talking about where israel situated, all it s all big crisis. it s all big alarms that are sound from hamas in gaza to the neighbors around with funded and funded and supplied and supported by iran on in terms of the motivation and position of prime minister benjamin netanyahu, blinken says that he reaffirmed his support for today, but president biden told time magazine in a very recent interview, and here s how he put it. there is every reason for people to draw the conclusion that netanyahu is prolonging the war for his own political gain what s your reaction to them? as an israeli, as a father two children who will soon be serving in the military. i really, really hope that isn t true. and i would like to see evidence that states the otherwise from my elected leadership. i think it s very important and what we lacked now in israel is unity and trust. we are as you rightly said, surrounded by so many enemies that are challenging or very existence. and what s the israeli public now is going through. this battle fatigue, eight months of fighting, relentless alarms and sirens and 100,000 people are evacuated from their homes. in northern israel. and the war goes on. we had four casualties reported just this morning. lots of pressure on israeli society and what s desperately needed is unity is leadership. and to take, carry israel forward in what i think will be the coming years, not months, the coming years will be very challenging you don t think president biden was so off off-base to say that? i don t know, but i really hope that israeli leadership gets its act together unifies, gets all of the parties in israeli politics that are zionist israeli, and want to live here safely and respectfully get themselves together and focus on the most important thing, which isn t political sustainability, but it is winning the war, defending israeli civilians, and making sure that israelis can go back to their homes as they lived before october the seventh jonathan can rica, so general. thank you so much for your time. thank you for having me thank you at least for us college professors are wounded after what s being described as a brutal stabbing attack in china, one person has now been arrested. what we are, we are learning this morning about that suspect, plus the new the big news from apple and you partnership with chatgpt gpt creator, openai, how the company plans to integrate ai into its products. we ll be back devastating and sudden power of tsunamis. it happened in far away lands and it s easy to think. it can t happen here if one hits home, we d be ready silent birth would liev schreiber, sunday at night on cnn. here s to getting better with age here s the beaten these two every thursday helped fuel today with boost type protein complete nutrition, you need without the stuff you don t. so here s two now let s get started no where s your mask? 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right, kate? the arrest is made yesterday, but we only learn about adjust tonight. so obviously there was a gap. and the explanation from police as to what prompted the suspect the suspect simply said he somehow ran into this group of american educators and somehow this prompted this stabbings. so obviously there are a lot of gaps, a lot of holes, a lot of questions i want to show you the scene of the stabbing we were there just a few hours ago. it s about 15 you may hike from where we are right now when we arrived, any evidence of the violence had been literally washed away. there were some stains on the ground where perhaps that blood was a contrast from the images that we saw shortly after we saw these injured americans laying on the ground covered in blood. that s in addition to this, chinese tourists who stepped in to intervene to try, to try to help this park in the middle of the city is very much reminiscent of a large park you would see you in any american suburb, there are trails, there s a train that goes through it, there s a temple. we ve seen a lot of retirees. we ve seen a lot of families this appears to be a very safe place as investigators tried to fill in the gaps in all of this it also is important to look at the current environment, right now in china, for americans, there is this rise of nationalism. it s something that i ve heard in conversations with chinese folks. it s something that is on social media but yet at the same time, we are hearing these overtures for the chinese government from present fusion thing to increase these educational exchanges between universities and colleges in the united states, like that one in iowa with china. in fact, xi jinping set a goal of 50,000 american students that come study here. so this point will have to see what happened here today. the single incident of perhaps dampers that enthusiasm finally, kate, as you mentioned, a lot of these images have been scrubbed from social media. in fact, we just saw a group of people here tonight in this park, gap of it around a phone who were learning about what happened for the first time, about 24 hours after it happened, it s been away from the headlines, sensor from the headlines until very recently, case mark. thank you so much for your reporting especially given in light of that. thank you, john. right. what makes donald trump walk on eggshells or maybe who errantly is taylor swift the revealing and some say bizarre new interview. and why health officials are keeping a very close eye on the bird flu outbreak in the united states hey, mom, how many should i decorated? 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this is going to resonate with the biden campaign believes that tackling gun violence is an issue of importance to young voters, but also to voters in black and latino communities. and so part part of president biden s goal today is trying to promote was his administration has done to try to tackle gun violence, including touting the bipartisan gun safety bill that he signed into law just two years ago. biden, today s specifically will announce the justice department has charged more than 500 defendants with violating gun trafficking and illegal straw purchaser so it seemed provisions that were part of that gun safety legislation. he will be speaking to survivors of gun violence as well as volunteers and activists at everytown for gun safety is conference it s here in washington, dc. this is one of those groups that s really risen in prominence in the wake of mass shootings in this country. the president also is expected to tout the drop hop in violent crime. the fbi yesterday released some preliminary data that showed that violent crime in the first three months of the year is actually down 15%. if you take a look at the number of murders in the country those three months, that s down by 26%. president biden has praised this, saying it s good news for american families and also arguing that this isn t happening by accident, promoted voting a his own legislative and executive actions relating to this. he said, quote, my administration is putting more cops on the beat, holding violent criminals accountable, and getting illegal guns off the street. and we are doing it in partnership with communities. he added as a result, americans are safer today than when i took office. so part of what the biden can campaign, the white house are hoping the president can do today is really tried to lay out the steps that he has taken to try to address issues relating to crime and also gun violence. it tom s as he s not just looking to rally his own base on this, but you also have former president donald trump, who has sought to rally republicans around a gun initiatives. he has vowed to undo many of the efforts that biden has put into place while he is an office, while the biden campaign argues that trump would simply be beholden to the gun lobbies so both men, in their own ways really trying to use gun issues as a way to rally their basis heading into november s election. or let thank you. john so this morning, what makes donald trump nervous or who the answer might be? taylor swift? so asked about taylor swift for an upcoming book, trump says, quote, i think she s very beautiful, actually, unusually beautiful. that s according to a forthcoming book from variety coder and chief from institute with us now cnn political commentator, democratic strategist, public gala, and cnn political commentator and republican strategist. sure michael singleton and paul, there are people who look at that comment and note it s a little strange from a guy who is going to turn 78 later in the week that maybe those are the types of things that he shouldn t be observing right there. but another way of looking at it is for a guy who will say mean things about anybody. he seems to be really careful when it comes to taylor swift right? what both are true. it s an incredibly creepy, i m sorry, i know it s morning. i just threw up a little bit. my mouth. when you read those quotes today, it s just disgusting thing and mr. corruption mr. trump should pay himself hush money. you should just shut up about taylor swift and you can tell he is scared of her trump understand celebrity. he understands the power celebrity that s how he got where he is. ms swift is far more powerful as a celebrity than donald trump ever dreamed. a big and so he s clearly scared of her. and i find that wonderful and amusing, even though the comments about her appearance deeply creepy. sure. michael, i was trying to think if there was another figure who people have politicians have had to walk on eggshells around. you have to be really careful with no matter what you say or how they feel about you. and i was sick. maybe oprah when oprah went behind barak obama in 2007, 2008, everyone, hillary clinton s campaign and had to be really careful than john mccain s campaign had to be really careful. i can t really think of everyone else, anyone else that would make a politician so nervous. i mean, john, i can think of one other person and i think that would be bianna. and i have to say this because my girlfriend were kill me if i did not. one other the person that i think a lot of politicians out to be very, very careful with the lead. i think a lot of these celebrities and younger voters, attractiveness to them not only because of their music, but their lifestyles and also the way they live vicariously by the politics that they adopt is certainly a pervasive thing. if you re a politician right now, trying to win the left section, which we know will be very close and you want to galvanize young people you certainly don t want to anger them by attacking some of the individuals they look up to and i think this is the case. we re taylor swift who is an incredible songwriter. so here s someone who galvanized is not only young liberals, john, but she also galvanizes young conservatives be in a former country star who s now i want to pop music. so there s an interesting dichotomy here. but i think the former president is trying to thread the needle on. i know the biden campaign would love it to taylor swift came out in public and endorse the biden candidacy like she did in 2020. they are waiting for that to happen. i was looking at the calendar, paul, i still can t wrap my arms around the fact that there is a general election presidential debate in like two weeks and yes, it is right here on cnn. and i m not doing this to promote the debate which is, i should note right here on cnn but it just shatters everything i know about presidential campaigns in its drawings. i covered george bush in 2000 and he disappeared for days before the first debate for debate prep in it, we learn later that he d been preparing like a ton for months before should these candidates deep into debate prep for what could be the most important presidential debate any of us have ever seen oh yeah, debates do tend to freeze the campaign and our president has to go to europe for g7 meeting and if i were campaign strategies for him, i would be tearing the last three hairs out of my head. but you can use that time on air force one. so let s watch them manifest on air force one. if my old pal ron klain, president s former chief of staff is on that trip. i mean, they re doing to bake prep on the plane. no one i ve done all my adult life. no one is better at debate prep than the president s former chief of staff, ron klain. but they do need to do. and by the way, so does mr. trump and i know he doesn t like it i shouldn t say this because debates are about expectations joe biden is going to climb donald trump in that debate. incumbent presidents rarely, rarely when the first debate, because they re used to having their rings kissed, shall we say? but mr. trump has talent. he does, and he s great at these rallies but he s never won a national presidential general election debate. he had to three against hillary, two gets biden in the polling, one or two point race, he consistently loses those debates by nine to 12 points. so honest earnest, free advice to mr. trump you need to hunker down and prepare for this. mr. mr. trump and i promise you, joe biden is you just broke the major one rule of pre debate expectations, right there. you re gonna get a golf. i spoke the truth apartment. i try never to do that with you, but once in a while sure. michael, if you are the trump campaign, a. the likelihood that they follow paul s advice and donald trump goes into debate prep. if you are donald trump or if you are the trunk campaign, what kind of prep would you have him do i mean luck in 2016, he had chris christie helping them out. chris christie and entrepreneur longer friends, so i don t think you can call up chris and say, hey, come and help us but i agree with paul. presidents usually don t do well during the first debate. so this is a very unique opportunity for the former president. and i think donald trump is really effective. john, at being able to communicate very simply in a simple way rather on issues that people really care about. so if you can figure out a way to drive and hone in that skill and more focused way on actual issues. i think the former president could potentially surprise people, but you have to be disciplined in order to do so. so i was spent a couple of days, maybe a week or so practicing these things, maybe some of his best zynga s figuring out a way to be more surgical with them during that one hour debate. and let s see what happens. but this could be, and i ll say this quickly, john. i don t think trump should debate president for a second time because to pause zero point presidents don t do well during the first debate, but they usually come back and knock it out of the park during the second debate. so if i m trump, i would try to hammer this in with a victory and say, you know what, that s it. i m not interested in debating number two. paul, very quickly share michael said the issues one of the issues is crime usually is an issue every four years and these new numbers out from the fbi, violent crime, going down, murder rate dropping dramatically could be the biggest drop. on record in one year how should the buying campaign talk about this in a way that it will connect with people absolutely. and i think it all about mr. trump catering to the most extreme and joe biden, big part of the mainstream are, let s report is right. young people and people of color really support the biden gun safety genic. guess what? so do older white people in the suburbs where trump is very weak and it s a web issue. you always just talking about wedge issues. this is a web issue. it s stick stitches together the base where joe biden frankly needs a lot of help, and the suburban college-educated swing voters were biden is surprisingly strong. once a republican stronghold, biden is really strong with those suburban at college-educated voters. so it s a great issue for biden to be touting. and mr. trump by the way, who can no longer even own a gun because he s a felon. he went to the nra and he said, i will be your loyal friend and fearless champion. so that s, that s the way to posit trump is as he can own a get himself, but he is going to be owned by the nra public, alice or michel saying, great to see both you. thanks so much good to see you, jack so health experts increasingly concerned that the bird flu could turn into a much bigger problem and martha s vineyard martha s vineyard? all the vineyards off the coast of massachusetts, running out of marijuana chasing life with dr. sanjay gupta listen wherever you get your podcast check it out. six my work from anywhere cozy grab yourself a drink is this dog food in your fridge? 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or is it is it not, is it there s something else and what they think at this point is that it s doesn t necessarily appear to be more severe. it may be that they, the third person got infected in a different way. first two people may have touched the surface than touch their eyes, which is what often happens. this the third person who is a farm worker in michigan may have actually inhaled some of the virus. that s worth paying attention to what they have not seen. kate. and this is a big thing that they look out for. is there evidence then it spreads as a result of those respiratory symptoms to another human human, to human spread. and so far at this point, they have not seen that, but that s what they re looking for. in short of that, what are the other red flags that they re wanting four yeah. i think one thing is to see a look are there other mammals that are starting to get infected? there s lots of different mammals that have been infected so far. but are there other ones as well? because each time you get new mammals that are infected, especially ones that are closer and closer to humans you may, the virus may mutate into something that can more easily infect humans and they, and could potentially spread among humans. but one of the big ways to figure this out is tested sting. and kate, we talked about this a lot during the pandemic. are we doing enough testing? and the answer right now with h5n1 is that we re not, if you test a lot of people and you say, hey, there s a lot of people that are carrying the virus, but they re not getting sick that s an important message. it may mean that this is not as deadly or is making people sick as we thought testing is the key to sort of get an idea of just how widespread this is. i talked to rick bright, who s a virologist and immunologists about this specifically. and here s what he said. i really think that s a tip of the iceberg. we are not doing enough testing or the even the right kind of testing. to get a better answer to that question is really unusual that we would find just one or two cases with so much virus prevalent and so many places as such, close contact to the source, such as the infected cow or the milk supply every virologists that you ve talked to says we need to be doing more testing just like we said at the beginning of the covid pandemic. so that has to happen. and then again, looking for human to human transmission. that s where a lot of focuses it s good to see you, sanjay. thank you so much and a new episode of chasing life with sanjay gupta, the podcast available right now, jump. then there s this a dog ran for help after his owner crash to call our into a remote steep ravine and a national park in oregon. the man was traveling with his four dogs when he crashed. one of the dogs was able to get free and then walked slash, ran nearly four miles to the families camp site rescue crews, put up a pulley system to get the man who was airlifted to safety the three other dogs were found alive at the crash site. we are effort and comment kate, from them. he was waiting for that. i was like and where are we? 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what is good to talk about in politics. what is good for politics and not, here s an interesting one, donald trump now wondering aloud about taylor swift is apparently coming from an excerpt from a forthcoming book about his work with with the producer of the apprentice. a conversation that took place as in november 2023, trump saying this about taylor swift. i think she s a liberal. she probably doesn t like trump, but she is liberal or is that just an act he asks, she she s legitimately liberal. it s not an act, it surprises me that a country star can be, can be successful, being liberal trump said before the author noted that s with crossover to pop music years ago, the crossover, she, she can, she can do whatever she wants. i would say is it good for politics to take on taylor swift i mean, this is this just goes into that bucket of weird and strange that we are seeing pop up almost every single day in this campaign. kate. but again, i think the more than donald trump focuses and n is obsessed with somebody like taylor swift, the better it is for democrats because i think we do know that she s liberal. we do know that she probably will not vote for donald trump and she may even come out in and endorsed joe biden and kamala harris and the democrats before the november election, which i think would be the republicans and donald trump s biggest nightmare. and that s probably why he s injecting this question mark into this election for whatever reason, he might think helps him. but again, this just goes into the weirdness of what this campaign is. and it gives us the opportunity to talk about the weirdness of donald trump. and again, that does nothing to take away from his base but we know that his base will probably never leave him no matter what. but it does go into that category of moderates and common sense republicans that are going to think, wow, this man to just there s something not right up there this man is not fit for office the biggest night for your nightmare for republicans and donald trump taylor swift, you heard it here. it s good to see you guys. thank you so much the next hours in a new central starts now a verdict could come this morning very shortly. the jury and the hunter biden s gun trial resumes deliberations. the murder rate in the us could be headed to its largest annual decline ever big drops in crime across the board. what the new data tells us, and the bombshells secret supreme court tapes chief justice john roberts samuel alito samuel alito s wife, the one with the flag s. she even talks about flags sara is out today. i m john berman with kate bolduan in this this cnn new set standing by for another historic verdict, very soon to 12 men and women weighing hunter biden s fate will resume deliberations after meeting for just over an hour? yes. but i and any minute we could see the president s son for the first time. today walking into the courthouse that is where he s expected to have to wait or nearby as the jurors decide whether to convict get him on three felony charges related to a 2018 gun purchase. hunter biden faces up to 25 years in prison if he is convicted on all three counts, it is however unlikely. we re told that he would serve that kind of jail time still standing by to standby to here exactly what this jury decides. cnn s marshall cohen outside the court four just once again, how is jury deliberations going to look this morning okay. good morning. it s 8:00 now. and the jury is expected back in one hour, 9:00 a.m. they got one hour of deliberations in the books yesterday before breaking through the night. and they will resume this morning. now, the judge who has been overseeing this case she doesn t feel the need to bring the jurors into the actual courtroom at nine and wish them a good morning. they can go straight to the jury box and once they are all here here today, they can resume those deliberations on the three felony charges that hunter biden is facing for allegedly purchasing and possessing a gun while addicted to it is illegal drugs. now, i should note that, yes, there are three top line charges here, but underneath each one of those counts are a series of elements of each crime that the jurors need to deliberate and degree on unanimously for each element of each crime that s in this indictment. look, you mentioned it he is convicted on all three charges he could face prison time up to 25 years. that seems highly unlikely though, given the fact that he is a first-time offender. but as we sit here, for and wait for the verdict, the fate of the president s son is in the hands of those 12 jurors from delaware six men and six women. there ll be back in about one hour to finish up marshall, we ve seen the first lady going into court. we know that a hunter biden s other members of hunter biden s family have also been in the courtroom as any family does. and can to show their support for him. but that became part of the prosecutor s closing argument. why? yeah. it is, of course, common for defendants to have the support of their family it s pretty rare for those family members to have their own secret service agents following their every move. but they really beefed up the presence yesterday for the closing arguments. obviously, there was the first lady, jill biden president biden s sister, valerie, was their president biden s brother, james hunters, younger sister, ashley, they were all there in the pews. and the prosecutors noticed one of the very first things okay that the special counsel, prosecutor leo wise, said in his closing arguments to the jury, was that they may recognize some faces in the gallery from the news. they america may recognize some of those vips from the community here in wilmington. but respectfully, none of that matters. that s what he s said. none of that matters. he wants them to focus on the evidence, which in the view of the prosecution is overwhelming. kate, jury begins liberation very soon. marcia, thank you. john wright with us now cnn senior data reporter, harry and harry were talking about the hunter biden trial what does the data show about what people think about this trial? well, in terms of how hunter biden has been treated. yeah. you know, there s this real thing. what hunter biden even be on trial if he wasn t the president s son, there are a lot of folks who are on hunter biden signed are and joe biden cited say they wouldn t even be brought. that s not necessarily the case. all right. according to the public legal systems treatment of hunter bye. now, this was after the criminal indictments of them, but before this most recent trial, look at is 66% set of americans say that the legal system, treatment of hunter biden has been fair. in fact according to the polling, if anything, they think it s been not harsh enough on him. just 27% of americans think that the legal system has been unfair. so the fact is, most americans have no problem with hunter biden being on trial. his favorite bility ratings are quite low and it s something thank when you look at the polling, why the white house i think is genuinely worried because he s definitely in their minds potentially a liability for me, at least outside of joe biden and think that, well, the important thing to remember is that it s hunter biden? correct. who is on trial here, not president joe biden, but there is some data in terms of what the public thinks about the president in how he views are is i guess connected to his son. yeah. you know, sort of my leading question here. all right. hunter biden s legal troubles and joe biden, hunter hunters troubles are related to joe 46% related to juror, correct? i m related to job. thank you. 46% say that is believable that they were unrelated to joe. that is the plurality believe it is unrelated to joe biden, just 37% of americans believe that is not believe well, that s a good number for joe biden. how about this joe biden is a good dad by supporting his son, the clear majority, 54% say that that is believable, and this is, i think the polling that joe biden sort of two, is listening to saying, you know, what first off, i don t necessarily care about the public, but secondly, i think the public thinks i d be a pretty good dad by supporting his son. yeah, he may not be looking at the polling all at all when it comes to his public statements about this trial or his son, he may just being a dead dead. what is the potential impact on the left? yeah. a very probably not much at all because the clear majority of folks believed that hunter biden s illegal troubles. they have no impact on their vote. yes, there s this 23% who say they re less likely to vote for joe biden. but you know who that is, 23% are there republicans who weren t going to vote for joe biden anyway? or 4%. therefore, who say it s more likely to vote for joe biden, but you can get for free percent of americans to basically say hard to see the logic there. all right, harriet and great to see you much some police in china have now arrested a man. they say stabbed for americans in broad daylight video appears to show the victims on the ground clearly bloodied and chinese tourist was also interviewed that video though not seen on social media in china as it was swiftly censored after being published. the four americans injured are instructors from cornell college in cornell college in iowa, who were in northeast china as part of an exchange program, officials say they are all in stable condition, but it s unclear what motivated this attack seen as marc stewart is in the city where this attack happened, joining us now, what are you learning about this arrest mark ross has been made. kate police confirmed it just a short time ago. this is a 55-year-old mad and according greene to police, he said he was walking when he bumped into this group of four americans. these for educators. and then somehow this stabbing took place that injured all four of them, as well as a chinese tourists who stepped into you re being. we just got back from the actual stabbing side. it s about 15 hike from where we are now and when we arrived, there was basically no evidence that anything ever happened. look like some of the blood on the ground had been washed away a contrast to what we saw yesterday when we sell these people on the ground, bloody, clearly, a need of help. i should point out that this park is very similar to a park you would see in any suburb in the united states. we ve been here for just a few hours. there are hiking trails. there is a train, there is a temple, there is no reason, but it s a feel safe here. so obviously, a lot part of holes in the story. the blanks needs to be filled in. let s also look at the backdrop in china right now, there is certainly arise in nationalism something that i hear in conversations with people that i have here in china. it s also apparent on social media, yet at the same time, we have chinese president xi jinping very anxious to welcome american students here as part of study abroad programs. in fact, when he was in the united states last fall, he mentioned bringing as many as 50,000 americans and just last week even made a personal reach out to an institution in the united states to have this kind of exchange. so it will be interesting to see if this incident has any kind of damper on things and finally, kate, you alluded to this at the beginning. no one here knew about what happened. for a good 48 hours as soon as this happened, social media posts were scrubbed. it wasn t until we heard from officials and iowa that this came to surface. in fact, just a few minutes ago, there were a group of people gathered around, someone cell phone trying to get the latest information that is the environment, the surveillance state ms fear often that we see here in china, kate marc stewart. thank you so much for your legs reporting work. john wright, new statements this morning and the prospects of a ceasefire 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netanyahu, blinken, telling reporters that there is a consensus among netanyahu and other leaders to move forward on a proposed ceasefire deal that was just approved by the un security council. cnn s oren liebermann is in tel aviv. how much consensus really is there that where do things stand okay. this appears to be more positive position than we ve seen in quite some time now, when it comes to the efforts to reach a ceasefire and a hostage release between israel and hamas. secretary if they d anthony blinken making a whirlwind trip through the region, first, he was in egypt at the start of the week than a series of meetings with israeli leaders, the prime minister, the defense minister, the opposition leader the member of the war cabinet, who just resigned. and now he s in jordan and then we ll be going to cut her. so a lot of the key players needed to get not only the israelis on board and the biden administration is clearly confident that they have the israelis agreeing to the ceasefire proposal. but now to try to push hamas to agree to the ceasefire proposal that s on the table. there have been some positive noises coming from hamas, both in reaction to the un security council resolution calling for a permanent ceasefire, end to the proposal on the table. the question of course, is in the details and that remains to be seen because the process has fallen apart repeatedly on the details in the past, sill, blinken knows who he has to convince here and that s the head of hamas s military in gaza, the most powerful person in the organization, right now, yahya sinwar, he was a blinken said a short time ago there are those who have influenced, but influences one thing actually getting a decision made is the another thing i don t think anyone other than the hamas leadership in gaza actually are the ones who can make make decisions that s what we re waiting now, the wall street journal was able to view messages written by yahya sinwar over the course of the negotiations and from the start of the war, and they give an interesting insight into his mindset and his person spective in one of these messages, the wall street journal viewed which cnn cannot verify sinwar says, we have the israelis, right where we want them. sinwar sit in a recent message two hamas officials i think the broker an agreement with qatari and egyptian officials on the big picture perspective on how many pills to palestinians have been killed here it is clear from these alleged messages that sinwar views this as something almost necessary to push forward the palestinian national cause. here s another quote from the wall street journal. in one message to hamas leaders in doha, sinwar cited civilian losses in national liberation conflicts in places such as algeria, where hundreds of thousands of people died fighting for independence from france, saying these are necessary sacrifices. it s that mindset that blinken is trying to work towards agreeing to a ceasefire here. it s a key question. again, kate, we appear to be closer than we ve been in quite some time now. and yet doesn t mean the process is over or complete at all. absolutely great reporting as always. thank you so much. john wright joining us now is aveyron my year the uncle of former hostage almog my ear, who was rescued over the weekend, sir. thank you so much for being with us while we have you. just give us an update that was elmo doing this morning at a mortgage generally. okay and these drawing to digest what happened with him in the last eight months. and specifically in the last three days you said when he was first released, what he wanted most was a hug and ayesha warmer. how many hugs and chihuahuas has he had now over the last four days? lots of hogs, one shawwa bma but later that day, that s a good ratio. i ll take that ratio any day. what have you learned? what has he told you about his captivity we haven t had the opportunity to talk quietly together. but generally, in the last six months is spent time with two other hostages in the same place. within re kozlov and shlomi ziv and at that time, they were like a team. they are very good friends. they have their own nicknames. they have their own terminology there were lots of time together and they really, really love one each other i heard no daylight kept in the dark for months. what can you tell us about that? i didn t understand. i question, please. one of the things i heard you say is that he was kept inside with no daylight more or less in the dark for four months yes. it s right there in the last six months, this is what i know. i don t know what happened in the first two months but in the last six months, the evan been allowed to leave the apartment. so they saw sound from the windows, but not the gimmick go out what gave him hope while he was in captivity, while he was being held prisoner, hostage what i can tell you is that they were together and the empowered one each other all the time. and its friends where where is back? and e were their back and they supported one each other i can tell you that in the 11th of may is so television in al jazeera? and he saw the forum, the family four room in tel aviv rally and he saw a picture of the game in that rally so we understood that is not forgotten and people are thinking about him. but more than that, it didn t know too much your nephew has now been rescued, but there are many others who are still being held hostage. what do you want to see from the israeli government? what do you want benjamin netanyahu to do? in our personal family the circle is closed and the log is here. and we are very happy. but there are still 120 families who is looking for their deer s and what we want newtoni all to do is to bring them by an agreement because we understand that operations like maga have been rescued, won t bring one other than 20 others so we want to press all the governments for the hamas and on the israeli government to sign this deal and to take out all the other hostages. back home. i have to tell you the joy of the people of israel when they saw four oxygens came back, it was incredible. the joy is enormous and if, if the people of israel will see wondering people of a 120 other hostages that will come back home. it will be a tikkun, will be fixing israel will do anything to do everything. right? it will be lots of energy for us if they re just come back around my air, please, to your nephew, were all mog more hogs and many many more sju armas. thank you so much. and we are so happy for you and your family. appreciate you being with us secret recordings of supreme court justices, even a secret recording of justice alito s wife, what happened and what alito s wife is? now saying about flying more flags at her home and there are signs of some growing support for robert kennedy jr. even in states where he s still struggling, even get on the ballot the most anticipated moment of this lecture and the stakes couldn t 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dinner the recording comes in the wake of the controversial flags being flown at alito s properties. and this is what martha alito had to say about that i want sacred garden cheeses because i had to look cross the lagoon at the pride flag for the next month. exactly. who s like, oh, please don t put up a flag. i can i won t do it because i m deferring to you. but when you are free of this nonsense i m putting it up and i m going to send them message every day now, cnn has not obtained the full form of these recordings. we have also reached out to the supreme court for comment. cnn s senior supreme court analyst, joan biskupic, is with us martha alito talking about flags on tape yes. john, good to see you. and martha ends common certainly were provocative given the controversy over the flags that had flown at the alito home that appeared connected to the january 6, rioters and the stop the steal movement. but i want to focus on justice. alito and what he said at this event and also how much it echoes were justice alito has been on religion just as a leader who has acted as if religion is under siege, he s, he s said that in public comments before. he said that in his written opinions and john, let s take a listen now to what justice alito said this woman as she was surreptitiously recording him at the event last week one side or the other there can be a way of workout, way of living together, please it s different because there are differences. one fundamental things is it really can t. it s not like you re going to see what the difference yeah, john. so again, just a little context on justice alito. remember he was the one who authored the dobbs ruling two years ago that reversed all constitutional rights to abortion. he has been very outspoken. against, especially any kind of protection for lgbtq rights. he s been against gay marriage. he has been very strong on issues that have a lot of, as i said religious themes so that s the context here. and then after after he wrote the dobbs opinion, he even said in a speech at rome that religious liberty is under attack from people everywhere and especially people in power, which is somewhat ironic since he is in power, but he he did not respond to any of our requests for comment last night, but the supreme court historical society did. and let me just read what jim duff, who is head of the historical society, said. we condemn the surreptitious recording of justice s at the event, which is inconsistent with the entire spirit of the evening attendees are advised that discussion of current cases, cases decided by current sitting justices, or a justices jurisprudence is strictly prohibited and may result in forfeiture of membership in the society. but for us, john, for those of us who live in america under the rulings of the supreme court. what s important here is do know that this month the justices are about to issue rulings and so many important opinions. and we ll need to we want to see how justice 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the first three three months of this year, murders are down 26% reported rapes decreased by nearly 26% aggravated assault is down. robberies or down, you look at property crimes, the same trend their burgers have dropped nearly 17%. motor vehicle thefts have decreased about 17%. so across the board and regions across the united how did it states they re seeing these drops based on this initial data i particularly want it focused in on murders. now, there s a caveat, obviously, this prelim preliminary, the year isn t up yet, but murder right now is down by 80% in places like boston, over 40% in cities like new orleans seattle, baltimore, and fill it dell fea, murder spiked about 30% during the pandemic, but then started to fall. i ve been talking with crime data analysts who say that if these numbers now hold, we could see a potential historic drop here throughout the rest of this year. so as we look at this trend some, obviously some promising data when you look at prime across the country, john, look this is the type of data that i imagine everyone, all of the evidence that we have so far is showing a basically a double decline relative to what it was last year at this point, last year, it was down about ten or 11%. now we re talking 19 or 20%. it s plausible that this will be by far the largest one-year decline in american history. so obviously one of the analysts, we were speaking with, and as you were saying they re john, i mean, we often focused on a lot of different facts and figures in life. nothing more personal than when we re talking about crime, whether it s crime that s impacting us, whether it s crime that is impacting members of our community. of course, we are hearing from people like the attorney general who are now speaking out touting these numbers the attorney general saying yesterday in a statement that this continued historic decline in homicides does not represent abstract statistics. it represents people whose lives were saved, people who are still here to see their children grow up to work toward fulfilling their dreams and to contribute to their communities unities. we also heard the president come out with similar statements. of course, this is a topic that can always be improved when we talk about crime. and so this is not certainly not something to celebrate when there was work to be done, but when you look at that trend, particularly after the pandemic, when we saw so much violence is certainly moving in the right direction. and this is the type of trend that we ve all been waiting for, you good to hear, good to see you. josh campbell. thank you very much for that democratic senator bob menendez will soon be returning to court where he is facing federal bribery charges. the prosecution s star witness will also then be back on the stand, which is new jersey businessman jose uribe. he delivered testimony yesterday about the senator, seen as jason carroll, following all of this, he s outside of the court. what s going to happen today? jason well, i think we re expected to hear more of what we heard yesterday, except the only difference is this time the defense gets its chance to question jose uribe yesterday. he provided a lot of detailed information about conversations he said he had with senator menendez directly related to bribery. now remember you rebate as someone who wanted these criminal investigations in new jersey to go away? because they could have implicated people who he was very close to. he knew nadine menendez, he knew she needed a brand new car. and so he says he gave her $15,000 to buy a brand new mercedes in exchange for the senator s influence. he talked about a dinner, for example, august 2019 where he says, i get to ask him, him, meaning senator menendez, for the first time? explain what is worrying me so much. i asked him if there s anything in his power that he can do to stop these investigations. he says menendez answered he would look into it then september of 2019 he says he was at nadine menendez home. he says he wrote down the names of the people in question relate get to that investigation. he says he put it on a piece of paper, senator menendez folded it up and put it in his pocket. then october 29, 2019, he says he got a call all from senator menendez, and basically he told jurors that he felt as though that the situation had been settled and he choked up when he s talked about this, when he testified because he felt like it was all over finally, then at a dinner, kate and 2020, he says menendez told him, i saved your twice not one but twice now senator menendez, for his part, has pleaded not guilty. he says there were no ghraieb that took place here. he says he was simply acting on behalf of his concern so his attorneys get a chance to cross-examine jose uribe later this morning good to see you, jason. thank you so much john alright. new evidence that independent presidential candidate robert f. kennedy jr. is enjoying significant support in one crucial state cnn s even makin reports from wisconsin on a 17 acre tree farm in sackville, wisconsin, dells stand braunton rides around the land with hope. the 2024 election will bring monumental change, shreve in 2020, i voted for trump, but now he says, the former president sounds like a broken record. it s all about the election was rigged and the court system is re this year, the wedding venue owner who plans to eventually transform his property into a wellness retreat is all in for independent presidential candidate robert f. kennedy jr. bobby s the first candidate who i ve actually felt good about. i think a lot of people are very frustrated with voting for the lesser of two evils. is that how you view the major party candidates? yeah, absolutely a self-described conservative, independent stan braunton shares kennedy s vaccine skepticism and learned of him through kennedy s work with the anti-vaccine group, children s health defense the 62-year-old typically votes for republicans, but he s attracted to kennedy s anti-establishment message, ending the form was the financial corrupt sure within our government agencies in the fact that we can t trust our government agencies to do their jobs because they ve been hijacked by corporate interests. you don t think are government agencies can be trusted know why? because they re bought and paid for. i found a video rfk hey, junior on youtube, recent college grad katie zimmerman voted for president joe biden in 2020. but now she spends her saturday mornings tabling at farmers markets like this one in wahba tomasa for the kennedy campaign he s coming to all voters and saying like, if you vote for me, like you ll be able to afford buy a house. first is i haven t necessarily heard if biden say things like that, that appeal to me. if ultimately trump gets reelected how would you feel about that? i would not feel really great about that if he was elected into office, but i i wouldn t necessarily feel any guilt because i was able to have a choice and who i wanted to vote for dog denticola is a long democrat who never thought he would find himself lobbying trump s supporters. to switched to kennedy. what do you think this has go to 24. go watch when he s going to do you haven t even given him a chance, because he doesn t ever what chance anyway, is it hard to convince trump s supporters to vote for kennedy? yeah, i actually just appreciate that he was willing to stop and talk to me, fed up with political polarization, denticola thinks kennedy can bring americans together and isn t worried about him taking votes from biden or trump i person like bobby kennedy, who is really a message of unity, a message for all people i think that s why he s going to actually pull a lot of voters in both sides back on deal s farm. i shared desire for unity to address a deeply divided country. if we don t make some changes and find somebody who has played up solutions and somebody who we can trust who wants to bring us together we re going to be in a world of hurt and john kennedy s coalition of voters. they really span the political spectrum. polling data indicates the largest contingent could actually be those who didn t support either candidate in 2020. so he s bringing new voters into the fold. a lot of his support also comes from so-called double-haters. those holding an unfavorable view of both biden and trump, john, or even again, for us, fresh back from a trip to wisconsin, eva great to see you. thank you. so female helps people in communities pick up the pieces after disaster strikes. but now the federal agency is facing a disaster of its own. the new warning that theme is disaster relief fund could run out of money by the end of summer. and a driver was trapped at the bottom of a ravine the length his own dog went to save him devastating and sudden power of tsunamis. it happened in faraway lands and it s easy the to think it can t happen here if one hits home, will we be ready? 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supply customers experience is personalized service made possible by t-mobile for business with t-mobile s reliable 5g business, internet for he s get the information they need instant. i can feel the wind the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn t be higher. the president and the former president s, once moderated by jake tapper and dana bash, the cnn presidential debate thursday, june 27th, nine live on cnn and streaming on max. and rafael romo, the georgia state capitol in atlanta. this is cnn so new this morning a panel of independent advisers to the fda gave their approval to eli lilly s experimental alzheimer s drug is still has to get full approval from the agency, but it has a lot of people excited. our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta is year. what are we talking about here? sanjay? good morning, john yeah, potentially a big deal here there are no drugs to cure or to prevent alzheimer. so what we re talking about here are medications that can slow the progression of symptoms once they start. and if this gets approved this would now be the second drug that could do that sort of thing. as you know, john, the fda advisory committee that s an independent committee. they make their recommendations. they recommended this be approved. the fda usually follows her guidance, not always, but this is certainly a good sign and that approval could come by the end of the year so for this particular study, they looked at 1,700 people, just over 1,700 people between the ages of 6085 and these were people who had mild cognitive impairment. so this was early part of their diagnosis, early part of their disease and they gave them this drug and what they found was that over time, over 76 weeks that about a 29% reduction in cognitive decline. so they got worse, more slowly. it s not that they reverse the disease. it s not that they stalled the disease. they got worse more slowly, about 29%. so that is the big number in terms of benefit. the committee was paying attention to. on the flip side of that, let me tell you quickly, john, is the risks there are risks of these drugs specifically something known as aria, which stands for amyloid related imaging abnormality. you don t need to remember that, but basically it s these bleeds that can occur in the brain in response to the drug and what they found was about 37% of the people who are getting the medication compared to placebo, 14% did have evidence of these, these changes in the brain related to the amyloid. three people did die as well in that trial. so that was something that committee looked at very, very closely and still determined that the benefits outweigh the risks. john sanjay two very important questions. number one, how do you say the drugs named? because i can t make it out. i can t make sense of that in number two, how exactly does this one work yeah so the nonna mab and mab, which you hear at the end of a lot of these drugs, stands for monoclonal antibody. the other drug that i was talking about, lecanemab also a monoclonal antibody and a lot of people know monoclonal antibodies. they learned about them during the pandemic. but you re essentially giving the antibodies as part of the drug let me show you this quick animation of how it works. you know, amyloid is this protein plaque that builds up in the brain. when you give these medications, it can basically disrupt some of the building blocks of those plaques not allowing them to form as well or clearing them after they ve already formed so that s that s basically how these monoclonal antibody drugs work. and again, this might be the second one. what i tell you one interesting thing about this, this trial the ilo liliya suggesting that they follow the amount of amyloid that people have in their brain. and if the amyloid clears they suggest that maybe just stopping the drug it s a monthly infusion. but they say if the amyloid has gone no need to continue taking the drug when you typically think of the drugs, you think of them as lifelong for the rest of your life. maybe not the case here we ll see how the fda weighs in on that the nonna map sounds like sesame street phenomena to me, which is how i ll remember from now on how many people are we talking about that this could benefit hard to remember yeah. so you got about in the country, got about 6 million people who have alzheimer disease carry the diagnosis, but about 1 million who fall into that early stage category. again, keep in mind someone goes in there now developing early symptoms, sometimes hard to diagnose but potentially 1 million people taking the medication, right now. that is the population. will see in the future if some of these medications get approved for people who are further along in their diagnosis while got moderate or severe now so many people take any any promising news when it comes to all timers. they wanted, they take it so seriously, dr. sanjay gupta, thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. and this does then the official portrait of king charles has now been vandalized and there s video of it seen as max foster spring. i m in from london. max, what has happened? what is this? well, is a pressure group and they are against cruelty on farms so this is the very famous painting, of course it was famous because lots of people didn t like it, but lots of people did like it. is charles his first official portrait as king these, activists came along making the point that king charles is patron of the rspca, as it s called an animal welfare organization and they have a short farms scheme and the activists say, those farms still are cruel to animals. some of them, so they want to get rid of this assured scheme. so they re basically animal rights activists accusing the king of being hypocritical overseeing an organization which isn t protecting animal rights. so they created this cartoon characters all right, just saying this cruelty on farms. and they use the british characters cartoon characters, wallace and gromit for that. so it s making lots of headlines this is the picture kate you ll remember it. lots of people describing it as some sort of hellscape or him bathing in blood. but it s become a very famous photo. it s become a really big thing on social media. so they re getting lots of attention for it. also. i mean, it is a bit an official portion of the case. i mean, there are people in this group gonna get in trouble from it for this. i mean, let s i think so because from what we can tell, there isn t glass along the front of it either, but it does look as though no paint was used, there s certainly some glue that was used. i think it s certainly going to be seized as an act of vandalism we ve contacted the police, but it s only just happens. so i think that pretty early on in the investigation absolutely all right. max. thank you so much. i really appreciate it i knew our scene a new central starts now start the clock as all this minute. we believe the jury in the hunter biden trial is back deliberating a verdict could come this morning breaking this morning, a suspect arrested for stabbing for americans in china the video censored on chinese social media. new questions this morning about what happened and why health experts expressing concern that a bird flu outbreak in the united states could become a much bigger problem there are a assignor is out today. i m john berman with kate bolduan. this is cnn news central happening now alive, look at the federal court in wilmington, delaware, where everyone is waiting for work when the jury now they will be resuming deliberations in hunter biden s federal gun trial. they met for only about one our yesterday. so maybe they have hours of work ahead, but word could come any moment
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oh, my goodness, no. i m very, very proud of it. it s been three years. we haven t found anything, haven t seen anything. many people have tried. many people are covering it up. like who? the president of the united states. do you believe you ll be acquitted am. this is a complete misuse of the criminal process to interfere with the 2024 election. so much to fact check there including his tie. meanwhile the biden campaign is out with a new ad that hits donald trump during a campaign rally he had in las vegas just this past sunday. take a look. because i don t want anybody going at me we need every voter. i just want your vote, i don t care. i m joe biden and i approve this message. short and sweet. in just hours the jury will resume deliberating for a second straight day in a wilmington, delaware, courthouse. the jury got the case late yesterday following instructions from the judge and after hearing closing arguments from both the defense and the prosecution. prosecutors lay out what they described as overwhelming evidence against the president s son. hunter biden s attorney argued that prosecutors had not met their burden of proof in terms of proving the case beyond a reasonable doubt. earlier in the day the defense rested its case without calling hunter biden to testify. first lady jill biden was present in the audience for yesterday s proceedings as she has been throughout the trial. hunter biden has pleaded not guilty to three felony counts tied to a possession of a gun while using narcotics and lying on a government form. it s unclear how this case will impact the presidential race, but certainly those close to president biden are deeply concerned about the personal toll it will take on hunter biden s father. joining us now anthony coley who previously served as the top spokesperson for attorney general merrick garland. anthony, good to see you here on set in washington. let s talk about the hunter biden case first. what s your read on yesterday s closing arguments? so here s what s so interesting about this case, jonathan, is that there s a lot of circumstantial evidence here. we talked a lot about the passages in the book and then there are the text messages that all suggest that hunter biden was not sober during this period of time. but there is no smoking gun. there s no eyewitness here, so you can see a scenario where a jury says, you know, the government has not met its high burden of proof. that s the first thing. the second thing to me is a lot of what s happening off the stand, the unconditional love this man is receiving from all of his family not just through this trial but through his period of addiction. and number two, this reiteration that we heard from the president last week that he s going to respect the jury s verdict, and even if they return a not guilty verdict, that he would not pardon his son. and i can tell you if the shoe were on the other foot not only would donald trump not make that promise, this case a case of a similar a case looking at his family, you can see a scenario where he would not even have let it get this far. you know, he would have practically burned down the justice department if an obama era u.s. attorney was investigating his family. and biden has been very hands off. and briefly, what s the rule of thumb in terms of how long the jury will deliberate? could we get a verdict today? we could very well get a verdict today. one day of deliberation for every day the trial went on. that s the rule of thumb. they could come back they told the judge we deliberated for a couple days and we don t have a verdict, they re split. we ll turn to trump for just a moment. do you think the prosecution proved their case? i m not the lawyer, so i m not going to render my verdict, but i hope that hunter biden will be able to move on with his life. let s turn to donald trump s probation interview yesterday. it s a standard part of the procedure, about 30 minutes or so, but tell us why it matters and that includes because if he ends up with probation, he s not allowed to associate with other people who have criminal records themselves, have spent prison time, and at that point that s a lot of people in his universe including just the other day steve bannon. that s exactly right. plus also interesting here are the factors that go into whatever report that the probation officer provides, right? and you ve got to imagine that they re going to consider donald trump s efforts to accept the norms and the rules, and we know from just looking at this case, this is a man who has violated the norms and the rules, you know, ten different times he refused to accept this, narrowly tailored gag order. so it s going to be interesting to see how this one plays out. we are now precisely one month from donald trump s sentencing. today is june 11th. that comes july 11th. this probation here scheduled yesterday, are there other markers, procedures or events we should be looking for between now and that sentencing at the end of the month. no, i think right now what typically happens in the process the probation officer will prepare a report for the judge, and the judge obviously is the one that s going to make whatever determination he feels is appropriate in this case. and we will see if that includes prison time. msnbc justice and legal affairs analyst anthony coley, thank you. good to see you as always. next up here we ll bring you the latest from the middle east amid new reporting the biden administration is potentially looking at negotiating a deal with hamas to release american hostages in gaza. it s not clear if israel would be part of those talks. plus, donald trump s repeat conviction in new york could means he loses the liquor license at some of his golf courses. we ll have those stories, the other top headlines, as well as a check on sports and weather when we come right back. a check when we come right back. sup? 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good morning, jonathan. it s looking real soggy in the state of florida for the next couple days. from west palm to miami and out towards naples interest 6 million people. i wouldn t be surprised if that expands and sticks with us through at least the end of the workweek. we ve got a stationary front hanging out in northern florida. it s going to leave us unsettled with a whole lot of moisture to tap into, and that means, yes, multiple rounds of rain, today, tomorrow and getting into thursday and friday we ll continue to see really heavy rain working in. with all this rain on tap we likely will see upwards of maybe 10 inches, 12 inches, up to over a foot to 15 inches possible specifically across parts of southwest florida, so we likely will have the flooding concern be there at least through the end of the workweek. this will be something notable to watch here over the next couple of days. meanwhile, out west it remains warm. temperatures triple digits in las vegas, phoenix headed to 110 today. el paso headed to 102. by the time we get into tomorrow this heat starts to expand further to the east. salt lake city 99 degrees. notice minneapolis headed to the upper 80s. temperatures way warm for this time of year, and we get the east coast in on the action, too. 36 degrees on thursday new york city 90s on tap by friday, mid-90s for richmond. the same goes for charlotte both friday and saturday and a warm weekend too for folks friday and saturday in atlanta. this is something we ll see last into the weekend. summer will be in full swing in this region before you know it. summer is here. angie lassman, thank you so much. we ll talk to you again tomorrow. still ahead we ve got new video that shows the dramatic moments israeli forces rescued some of the hostages held by hamas. plus the latest on a possible cease-fire deal. we ll be right back. sible cease-fire deal. we ll be right back. . supporting your - oops - energy, immunity and metabolism. and yours too! you did it! plus try centrum silver, now clinically proven to support memory in older adults. have you always had trouble losing weight now clinically proven and keeping it off? 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based on the reporting and what we ve heard from the white house publicly, this is without question the most concerted effort that the biden administration has made in this eight month long war to get to some kind of deal. they ve been pushing for a temporary cease-fire for some time. obviously this deal as you note has phases, the beginning of which would be this six-week cease-fire when hamas would release israeli hostages in exchange for israel releasing palestinians who have been detained by the israeli government, and then of course negotiations over a permanent end to the war and the withdrawal of israeli forces from gaza. what s interesting about it is the u.s. is saying prime minister netanyahu has accepted the deal although we haven t heard prime minister netanyahu say that in public himself. reuters is reporting just this morning hamas has accepted the deal and willing to negotiate over the details. i think what you re really seeing from the administration is a real push to bring an end to hostilities especially given this administration has come nod a lot of criticism for u.s. support for israel during the course of this war given the devastation in gaza, and i think they really want to get to a deal not just to secure the release of hostages and some of the suffering in gaza but with the election just months away, it s really critical for president biden i think to get to a deal. with the civilian toll rising and certainly there is the possibility of a u.s.-hamas deal and much prefer israel be involved too. you mentioned political fallout and let s turn your recent reporting how the war weighs on the president. you spoke to one family in pennsylvania divided over whether or not to support biden at the ballot box in november because of this very issue. tell us about it. this to me is microcosm of the debate many democratic voters have been having since the start of the war as you ve seen not just progressive democrats but a lot of voters who are part of the democratic base, question the biden administration s really unequivocal backing of israel during the high civilian death toll, given the widespread starvation in gaza, and this family is one of the many families split what to do about it. there are democrats still going to support president bide even if they re frustrated with the way he handles this war, also they want to prevent another trump presidency, but there are a lot of voters who i think frustrated with the way this war has played out and that the president has not just not been very critical of israel during this offensive in gaza but also the u.s. has continued to provide weapons and other military support. and i think that coalition or that constituency is really key because there s a lot of concern within the white house and even among the biden campaign not those voters would swing towards trump but vote third party or stay at home. in a key voter ground like pennsylvania where his family is based some of these states are separated by tens of thousands of votes. neither candidate and certainly not president biden can afford to lose any voters in november. certainly the biden team desperate for this war to end before november. we mentioned earlier in the show the jury is deliberating in the hunter biden case and a verdict could come as soon as today. we went through the legal implications then, and certainly it s reported the personal toll this will take on president biden. as you talk to republicans and democrats alike whatever the verdict is here, guilty or not guilty, is it actually going to change anything in the presidential race? we haven t really seen too much indication this is going to affect, you know, independent or swing voters when it comes to election and support for president biden. this is not an issue that is top of mind, you know, for a lot of the types of voters that biden needs to turn up in november, but it s going to be a key issue for republicans. i think it s something that animates their base and it s something they re trying to use a counterweight to, you know, the criminal charges against former president trump, of course, the former president was convicted in the hush money trial. i think there s a big difference, of course, in the former president who is himself on the ballot facing, you know, criminal charges and the president s son who is not involved in the administration, who has not held any formal role in the administration. but there is also this question of a toll it takes on the president himself that you spoke to. obviously it is a deeply personal issue for him. he s not going to be addressing it publicly. he said he supports his son, but of course i think he doesn t really want to he campaigned on restoring independence to the justice department, to the legal system especially given, you know, the charges against his opponent, i don t think he wants to be in the business of weighing in on the legal issues themselves, but just kind of going back to the big picture, you know, this is not top of mind for i think most of the voters who are going to the polls in november who it would make a difference, but it is something i think certainly a political issue that republicans are going to try and leverage and maybe use as a distraction. yeah, whether to say guilty the biden family is corrupt or not guilty, the justice system is rigged against republicans. covered a lot of ground this morning. sabrina siddiqui, thank you for being here. we appreciate it. next up we ll go live to cnbc for an early look what s driving wall street as investors await the federal reserve s decision on interest rates. plus apple joins the artificial intelligence race. what we re learning about the new technology the iphone maker plans to offer when we come right back. e maker plans to offer when we come right back [coughing] copd hasn t been pretty. it s tough to breathe and tough to keep wondering if this is as good as it gets. but trelegy has shown me that there s still beauty and breath to be had. because with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy keeps my airways open and prevents future flare-ups. and with one dose a day, trelegy improves lung function so i can breathe more freely all day and night. trelegy won t replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. what a wonderful world ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy for copd because breathing should be beautiful. so this is pickleball? 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yeah, good morning, john. look, certainly the impact then of this fed policy meeting will be quite significant for this market picture, right? because it determines ultimately what does the rate cut in policy pretty much look like? how all the data has culminated so far and you saw just last week friday that hot jobs report being the labor market still looked pretty robust, 270,000 jobs still being created. all of that plus the growth projection, the inflation trajectory remaining a bit sticky, although there seems to be a drop, though. has all that data meant the fed is little more comfortable with cutting interest rates a little bit later on this year? or are they still in wait and see mode? and how much more data dependent will it be? all of that has meant the market is pretty nervous ahead of this meeting and has remained pretty negative to start things off, although it is close to that flat line. so apple as we just teased has announced a major push into a.i. with a huge impact on how we all could use our iphones. so what have we learned so far as to how this company s going to use artificial intelligence. well, if you like emojis, you can use the as a key starter. they ve also included their partnership with open a.i. which means chat gpt ultimately forms a big primary part then of apple as well-meaning siri works with chatgpt to formulate responses on answers and questions you may certainly have to the chat bot, which siri was known for. of course the big question mark is whether they d use that ability then to grow the data model and also be able to grow the number of people who actually purchase iphones. a question mark, however, is whether this will be enough to do that. not entirely sure. investors didn t necessarily feel too enlightened by the story and perhaps underwhelmed a bit on the updates. so perhaps not enough to shift investors at their price went down nearly 2% yesterday. and lastly shares of the british personal computer maker known as raspberry pie jumped on its first day as a public company. what does it say about the market for new stock listings? yeah, that s a fruitful experience for the london stock exchange especially. raspberry pie coming up here, it s a really low cost computer model company that believes they ll sell at least 8.4 million new computers ultimately this year. it s because of the growth they still see in this a.i. sector. they believe semiconductors will formulate a great part of their growth. and they still believe even though the united states is where you get all the great valuations of companies, that investors will find you wherever you are as long as you re a great company. that s according to the ceo evan upton. that s the belief of a company thus far going up around 50% on the back of its initial ipo earlier this morning and limited in that it s only been able to a few institutional investors so far. we appreciate it. arabile gumede live from london, thank you again. next up here a controversial ukrainian military unit will soon be allowed to use u.s. weapons in its fight against russia. we ll dig into the brigade s checkered past and why the white house is lift its ban. more news from europe when way too early comes right back. s f too early comes right back. lp t high protein, complete nutrition you need. .without the stuff you don t. so, here s to now. boost. ah, these bills are crazy. she has no idea she s sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn t know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. even a term policy. even a term policy? 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yeah, i mean i think the administration deserves a lot of credit for the work they did, you know, before the russian invasion and in the immediate wake of it and building real unity with european allies and building support from countries around the world. obviously the war in gaza for the last eight months has drawn a lot of attention. it continues to take up a lot of space on the agenda for very good reasons. i think the ukraine war has grown quite frustrating for them. it seems to be bogged down in a bit of a stalemate, so there are real questions about what will happen next there, although, president biden continues to make clear that the u.s. is going to be there, you know, supporting ukraine in the long haul. well, this is all happening in the midst of, you know, of a presidential campaign that they would really much rather be talking about domestic legislature accomplishments. so let s talk about where things stand in ukraine. as you said a bit of a stalemate at the moment, but russia made some progress in their offensive earlier this spring but not a lot. they continue to pound kharkiv with weaponry. tell us a little bit about the u.s. move to arm ukraine and allow them to strike within russia but also do you see much in the way changing on the battlefield or is this eventually going to turn into a frozen conflict that might eventually lead us to the negotiating table? right, i think if you go back about a year you saw a ukrainian counter offensive that surprised a lot of people in its effectiveness. the second counter offensive that began earlier this year was obviously not as successful. that has brought us to the situation where we are now, and that was not really a surprise because in the intervening year russia had the opportunity to really embed itself to lay a lot of mines, to dig a lot of trenches, so harder to root them out. but during the second counter offensive, so, yeah, it looks like we are there hasn t been too much movement. it looks like we might be in a frozen conflict for the moment. i think the ukrainian military hopes that a new strategy of striking russian facilities across the border could potentially change that equation. obviously, that s an escalation. the question is, is it a wise one? the question is, will that meaningfully change the situation here? you know, the kind of theory of the case that the administration has had up until now is to support ukraine s defense in the hopes that that would put them in the strongest possible position eventually around the negotiating table. i don t think that s changed. the question is, at what point does putin have interest in a negotiating piece? that s been missing up until now. there certainly will be ramifications coming out of elections in the eu, u.s. in november, and other european nations in the months ahead, as well. yeah. executive vice president at the center or international policy, matt duss, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. thank you. up next on way too early, we re seeing fewer arrests at the southern border. we ll break down the latest numbers now that president biden s executive order is in effect. coming up on morning joe, a louisiana woman is traveling across the country for the biden campaign, sharing her experience with abortion. she ll join our conversation with her story and why she says black women are disproportionately impacted. plus, jury deliberations resume later this morning in the hunter biden criminal trial. a panel of legal analysts are standing by with key takeaways from yesterday s closing arguments. also ahead, oscar nominated actress minnie driver will be in studio to discuss season two of her hit show the circuit queen. morning joe just a few moments away. it ain t my dad s razor, dad. ay watch it! it s from gillettelabs. this green bar releases trapped hairs from my face. gamechanga! .while the flexdisc contours to it. so the five blades can get virtually every hair in one stroke. for the ultimate gillette shaving experience. the best a man can get is gillettelabs. sup? 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there s so many ways republicans attack this issue, and something that doesn t change is the hyper focus on crimes committed by cry mai migrants in the country illegally. there s always footage from border checkpoints. it mitigated some of the republican messaging, and it said to democrats that biden is willing to do things that are unpopular with the base. i think that s popular with some voters who are on the fence, who voted for biden last time. it s not going to mitigate the entire immigration issue for him. republicans, you know, are the ones who killed the bipartisan border bill earlier this year. democrats have really tried to make that point, but have we seen that has sunk in, changed the polling? it hasn t changed the polling, but democrats have the argument. they could say, we know what it takes to fix the border. republicans blocked this to help donald trump. what is donald trump s answer? what is he going to do? to make the space for the argument is what this executive order was for. but, no, they ve not found a way out of this since really early 2021 when border crossings were up because biden reversed trump s policies. republicans have a simple message here, which is, do you remember all the border crossings when trump was there? remember migrants coming to new york, chicago, et cetera? trump is going to reverse that. there is nothing as simple democrats have. they have been showing they re willing to say to the migrant advocates in their base that they re not listening to them. they re going to adopt policies the aclu is going to sue them for probably any day in california. let s turn to primaries. you ve been following it closely. nancy mace, representative of south carolina, her election is tonight. tell us about that race and also what we re seeing writ large about these intraparty battles. the mace race will be hard to follow. she won 2020. donald trump endorsed her opponent in 2022. donald trump is for her this time. she has one of several races where trump has intervened in some way and become the issue in the race. that s intensified since the convictions in new york. this one is kind of unique. her opponents have argued that whatever nancy mace says, she s in this for attention. if you want a true maga conservative who is not going to ever make you question where the next vote is coming from, vote for me. that s her problem. across the country in north dakota, trump has a candidate today in the open seat, next few weeks in virginia. i was just there where trump endorsed against bob good, and good was saying i m the maga candidate, campaigning with steve bannon. the elections are still about who is most loyal to trump. you mentioned the criminal conviction of trump. we re ten days from that news. what are we seeing so far as to how it is impacting the presidential race? as you talk to republicans and democrats alike, we ve seen polls move just slightly but move, just slightly, to president biden. do we think that s going to intensify, stay where it is, or fade away in the months before november? we were talking about immigration messaging for republicans. this is even more coherent. there is no one breaking against larry hogan, across the river from here, but almost nobody else in the republican party saying there is something legitimate in the court decision in new york. that matters. you have an entire party creating the structure for swing voters to say, i don t know about this conviction. they re trying to move the numbers. we saw two weeks ago the hypothetical conviction in new york was unpopular. we saw a fifth of trump voters said they might not vote for him if this happened. republicans are doing, day by day, saying, ignore this, forget about it. it is an attempt to get trump because they couldn t get him otherwise. let s see how far we can kick these other cases down the road. it has hurt on the margins, but and a two-point margin could matter in the race, but it is not the size republicans are worried about because of all the work they re doing in saying, pay no attention to the indictment behind the curtain. democrats had some focus on it but less coherent or consistent on the issue. yeah. politics reporter for semafor, dave weigel, thanks for being here. thanks for getting up way too early on this tuesday morning to all of you. morning joe starts right now. unlike the vast majority of felons out there, trump was allowed to do his interview at mar-a-lago over a video conference call. 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sent to decide the fate of hunter biden, the president s son, hoping to beat three felony gun charges all right. 5:00 a.m. here in washington alive. look in new york city on this tuesday morning. good morning, everyone. i m kasie hunt. wonderful. have you with us donald trump juggling his conviction with his campaign. he helped to remote appearances on monday. one was with his probation officer, the other with a conservative christian group we can t afford to have anyone sit on the sidelines now is the time for us to all pull together and to stand up for our values and for our freedoms. and you just can t vote democrat. they re against religion there, against your religion in particular, you can not vote for democrats and you have to get out and vote the former president s probation interview. meanwhile comes one month ahead of his sentencing date. it s currently scheduled for july 11. meanwhile, president biden held eight juneteenth celebration at the white house last night dag remember the original sin of slavery and the extraordinary capacity to merge those powerful moments, painful moment with. a better vision for ourselves. a day reminds us. we have a hell of a lot more work to do. so let s keep marching today. president biden plans to speak at a major gun violence prevention conference. the appearance comes as the white house and biden campaign tried to promote the president s work to tackle gun violence his team believes that issue resonates with key voting blocs, including women, young people, and latinos. starting us off this morning. shelby talcott, she s a reporter with semaphores, shelby. good morning. wonderful to see you. let s start off with what we heard from former president trump at this event yesterday with the dan barry institute, which is a very conservative organization on abortion rights. and the bottom line seemed to be to keep from the left for showing up at all. but what he had to say wasn t good enough for the right yeah. i think this really just represents how difficult of an issue abortion is for republicans, it s essentially a lose-lose situation, and we ve seen how donald trump has struggled to grapple with that fact and figure out how to speak on it. so he faced he faced backlash from the left because of course, this is an extremely concerning derivative group that wants to ban all abortions and so their argument was, why is he showing up at all? and then he faced backlash from conservatives who argued that he sounded like a politician and his brief pre-recorded remarks, he didn t mention the word abortion at all. he didn t take pride for overturning roe as he so often does but it encapsulates how the abortion issue is really, really hurting republicans and how they ve just struggled to figure out the happy medium and how to talk about this issue. because again, i mean, this is the difference between a pre and post row america in a world where roe v wade stands, republican politicians can and would go into these groups, talked to them and say definitively, life begins at conception. this, we shouldn t be doing this, et cetera. without any actual risks that those policies are going to become the law of the land? no. yes. and i think the other thing is we ve seen how donald trump donald trump in 2016 won a lot of support from the anti-abortion movement because he promised all of these things he delivered on them. and this time around, i talked to activists in this group all the time about this issue. and throughout this entire election, they ve been really concerned that donald trump has left them by the wayside. and so to me this, these pre-recorded remarks is trump s sort of attempt at saying, i m still with you. i m still here but also trying to walk that really fine, almost impossible line to get those moderate voters over to his side as well. yeah let s talk a little bit about president biden because we are starting to see, or at least it seems like we re seeing a very small shift potentially in the polling in biden s direction. we don t want to overstate it because this race is so incredibly close, right? and we re still kind of gathering data in a post conviction world but i do feel like there are some i m picking up some more positive vibes from democrats shall we say, in the wake of this, i think they were a little reluctant to weigh in initially, what is your reporting on how this seems to be playing out so far? well, it s interesting because we still don t know exactly how the trump conviction is going to affect voters long-term. it does is you said seem to have maybe shifted things a little bit four at least the short term, who knows, in five months what s going to happen but what i think is notable as every time i talked to the biden campaign, they ve been really focused on saying throughout this entire election that they re going to focus on touting his accomplishments, focus on trying to remind voters in a very tough election cycle what he has done. and so this this gun speech is going to be one of those prime examples. it s an issue that a lot of voters care about, particularly his core base and we re going to see a lot from him about this issue and we ve already seen how there also at the same time contrasting what joe biden has accomplished in office with donald trump s policies. and so this gun speech, represents how the biden campaign is trying to run their campaigns. one other message that the biden campaign has been trying to really push. and if you know anyone that works for biden comes to the set, they will say they will make this argument that donald trump is out for himself, that he doesn t care about voters, which is why it stood out to us on the show when donalds, this is from over the weekend, donald trump rally in las vegas. here s what he said to his supporters. there. take a look. by the way, is that breeze nice? do you feel the breeze because i don t want anybody going on me. we need every voter. i don t care about you. i just want your vote. i don t care i don t care about you. i just want your vote from the man himself. yeah. and i think the big thing when i talked to voters at these events, you have to remember these events are tailored for donald trump s core base of supporters. you re not often seeing. people maybe except for the new york events that he has held which are not technically large scale rallies, but at these large-scale rallies, these are as core base. these are the people have the memorabilia and they have the t-shirts were in line for hours? exactly. so they they love those as of comments, the question is, how do those comments help the more moderate voters who are maybe on the fence unclear. shall we talk got thank you very much for that. are coming up next year. america s top diplomat in the middle east, pressure israel and hamas to agree to a ceasefire deal plus miami apartment building engulfed in flames. authority say it was no accident the most anticipated moment 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see who are the ones who are interested to see this resolution to become a reality and those who are obstructing it all right cnn s max foster joins us now, live from london at max, it s rare to hear from him from the palestinian ambassador this deal, it seems like it s going to be a three-phase thing. there s a six-week ceasefire with the release of some hostages and palestinian prisoners it s supposed to be followed by a full israeli withdrawal, release of all the hostages. and then in theory, there s a plan for a multiyear reconstruction of gaza. it s a lot the us is saying, hey, we re waiting on hamas. what, where does this stand at this point? well it s not entirely clear is that we re hearing a lot about in hamas is core. other people are saying it s in israel s court as well, hearing their from the us ambassador to the united nations saying israel has agreed to it, but has agreed to it in its current form the government that is currently in. so you have now benny gantz has left the israeli war cabinet and it s now become more right-wing. so will they agree to this deal within this broader deal, as i understand it, is the idea of a palestinian state in future. and that is something that the right wing of the israeli government won t agree to. so i think clarity is needed on whether the us ambassador to the un is right. is that israel, the current israeli government, whether or not it actually supports this deal, then of course yes, the question about whether or not hamas some supports the deal as well, and whether or not even if they get to the point of negotiation, whether it holds but i think that that clarity on both sides is needed. but as you say, we don t often hear from that palestinian ambassador in the us max. we re, we re also getting some reporting in the wall street journal about yahya sinwar is the head of hamas his correspondence with his compatriots, but also with mediators who are going back and forth trying to get this deal. and the way that he frames this, he says, quote, we have the israelis, right where we want them and then he goes on to say in another message that he cited civilian losses in national liberation conflicts in places like algeria, where hundreds of thousands of people died fighting for independence from france. and he said, quote these are necessary sacrifices. and quote, so we ve kinda east talking about these people who are dying in gaza as a way to pressure the israelis. it s a pretty stark and difficult way of looking at things and this is something that when people who are supportive of the israeli is trying to recover their hostages, et cetera. they point to this and they say, look, hamas uses its people this way well, i think a lot of the quotes open to interpretation on such a divisive issue. and i know the article makes the point, but his ultimate goal is to appear to win a permanent ceasefire that allows hamas to declare victory by outlasting israel. so i think there s a real awareness within israel in many parts of israel that, that might be the strategy here on the her mass sayyed, there will be people saying that this is a fight we can t we have to outlive it and then you have these quotes which do seem ruthless another one says you ll remember when the political leader, ishmael hernia, his sons were killed. and there s a message apparently, these messages are coming from people have different views on sinwar as we said, he wrote that the deaths and those of other palestinians would infuse life into the veins of this nation, prompting it to rise up rise to his glory and honor. was he making the best of a bad situation there or is it as you suggested? within this article that the bloodshed actually works for the palestinian cause i think a lot of it s open to interpretation. a lot of people would have issues with this article. lot of people who are also say, this says an awful lot about the current leadership of hamas. obviously yeah, very bottom line is, is very 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answered all the questions he was polite, respectful and accommodating to the probation officers telling them to be safe with the conclusion of the session. this routine interview lasted just 30 minutes. may source tells cnn there could be a follow-up meeting. here s a former new york city, the former new york city corrections commissioner, who it s just explaining a little bit here. this could be an is usually a drawn-out process it s just the beginning of what can be a pretty long and sometimes intrusive process. so you shouldn t take too much that it was just a first polite interview that a probation officer has wide berth here so this was the start of something that certainly not the end not the end, joining me now, cnn legal analyst, joey jackson. joey. good morning to you. it sounds like we got a slightly different version of donald trump than we often see on the campaign trail when he talks talk to his probation officer. i m still working on getting over the fact that this is the reality that we re living in, that this is what we re covering day in and day out considering he is the republican presumptive republican nominee for president. but what do you take away from what unfolded here? jc, good morning to you. it is a very pleasant surprise and quite unusual from what we re used to in terms of rashness, in terms of making statements about the system and being a victim in an injustice. and so yes, it isn t surprised. but remember we re big picture what this is about, right? there s something called a psi. what is a psi pre-sentence investigation and pursuant to that investigation, a defendant, as we look at here, now, a convicted felon is provided with the opportunity to give information with respect to things that are relevant about you. like what like your family background, like your mental health history and status, like the nature of the conviction and how it affected your ability to support and otherwise provide for your family? generally not getting into the facts and circumstances the case itself, which is why counsel generally doesn t even appear or need to for that matter. and the whole reason for that case, he of course, is that then you go from a psi pre-sentence invented that s the patient to a psr, right? lot of acronyms, pre-sentence report and that report is certainly helpful for a judge to provide sentencing to the defendant, having learned more about them, and then of course this comes with and along alongside what your attorneys will give, which is their recommended condition with respect to the sentence. and then prosecutors will weigh in and then the judge will certainly look at all of it and render a fair and just determination as to what sentencing should look like joey is plausible here. mean like i completely understand why this process exists for your average defendant who is not known to any of these officials in this system, right? i mean, how ever many cases come before them day in and day out. this is typically pretty routine thing. this is not a routine situation like if you re the judge here how much does this actual process do you think? do you think judge machinery knows what he s gonna do three parts to the question. i think number one, in terms of the nature and typical illness of this for mr. trump, it s not right. we know i think people in general about him. he s run for president before he served as president for he ran again for president. and he s running again. and so i think generally the typical defendant to your point, is not someone who s known to the judge and the judge is trying to get a broader perspective with regard to who you are, what you do. number two, in terms of the process itself, it s helpful and important for a judge in general because it does give a deep dive into who the particular person is, what their families about, what their mental health history, about who they are about what their thoughts in nature of the system are about to give you a better rendering of a decision number three, in terms of the judge, i don t think so. okay. see, i don t think judge machine has made up his mind you know, and i know that by nothing in terms of having spoken to him or knowing anything about it. but i think that the process provides for the nature of what happens and what does happen. what happens is, is you re attorneys provide their view defense attorneys with respect to what they fair. and justin appropriate prosecutors way in the department of probation can ways in because they will give casey they the department probation the essence of why he gave this interview a recommendation and i think the judge takes all that into account and let s not forget when you re attorney he s provide their memorandum. it s accompanied by all kinds of letters and documents and things about who you are, what you re about, the redeeming qualities you have and all the factors that talk about the aspirational nature of the actual in most instances, the aberration on nature. it s not typically who the defendant is, judge, this is something that was a one-off, your honor. whatever arguments you make, but there are multiple letters that come with that. and then of course, at the sentencing itself, casey very briefly, the attorneys are afforded an opportunity to make oral argument with regard to what they think it should be added. the defendant, him or herself, in this case, the former president has an opportunity to render some kind of public statement about how they feel. and then oftentimes you get victim impact statements two and so i think because of all that it would really be a disappointment and i m sure that s not what judgment shot is doing to say i ve got my mind made up, i m just going to render a decision. i don t need any of this. all of it is important i mean, sometimes come game de the sentencing day judges do change their mind right then and there. so see what happens here. very interesting, very briefly, joey, let me ask you about the other case that s unfolding. and that s a hunter biden the jury has this case. how long do you expect it to take for them to reach a verdict on something like this so you know, casey, that s always the wildcard in terms of the timeframe and i don t think we could draw anything into the time frame, of course, deliberation, just having begun yesterday, of course, this dealing with three different counts, did he lie to a federally licensed firearm dealer that he lie on the form with regard to the purchase of the weapon or did he illegally possess it? so those are the issues i think they re very clearly defined. what s a bit murky is whether or not there s really, was he addicted at the time, whether he thought he was addicted at the time, was he deceiving himself? what this evidence of that regard and let s not forget, he s got home-court vantage has families pretty popular in delaware? it matters. i think you have an african-american jury that is pretty intuned to what s appropriate, what s in just et cetera and so let s see whether or not we get a hung jury for finally, jury nullification, whether the jury says, you know what, perhaps it s something you did i think there s shaming addiction. we re not going to do that and then let s throw it out. courts has been arguing that, but the prosecution saying it s about line let s see what narrative the jury comes up with. well, know, sue. all alright. joey jackson for us this morning. joey thanks very much the story. the former house speaker kevin mccarthy, reportedly planning a revenge tour. nbc news reporting mccarthy is seeking to retaliate against republicans who voted to oust him last year. this has really been an ongoing thing, but it s starting with republican congresswoman nancy mace of south carolina, cobo, an nbc operatives aligned with mccarthy are directing big money into these races through outside groups. tuesday s challenge to mace is the first test, and then we ll see house freedom caucus chair bob good, who faces a primary in virginia next week two other anti mccarthy voters representatives, eli crane of arizona, matt gaetz of florida, also have primary challenges. this summer mccarthy denies it s a revenge mission and says he s not targeting anyone these are the eight republicans that you mentioned. you see them on your screen what s the first thing that comes to your mind when you see them just function, are you on political vengeance store? no no, i know you guys tried to say that. now, last week i went to los angeles, orange county, san diego raising money for the republican party are you okay. joining me now, senior congressional reported for punchbowl news. andrew does siderio andrew, this is revenge tour. this is the revenge tour. one to the tune of enantiomers, this case, $9 million in outside spending against her in the single house race and a single single house primary? yeah. yeah. it s that s wild. yeah. what are what is the likelihood that any of these folks are going to lose their primaries? well, look, i think it s very possible that nancy mace loses her primary, for example, today, i think that s the big race that everybody is going to be tuning into those other ones you mentioned probably not. but kevin mccarthy is very much interested in toppling the people who were sort of orchestrating the push to oust him from the speakership so andrew can you walk me through also the dynamics in the bob good house race in virginia because that one is really interesting. he is the freedom top of the freedom caucus. he is someone who has, it s not just kevin mccarthy. he s made angry. what s going on with that, right? so donald trump hasn t endorsed his his primary opponent, for example, which was quite stunning to learn, especially given that bob good is, as you said, the chair of the freedom caucus, and he s got a lot of conservatives both movement conservatives and conserve as on capitol hill, who are very much behind him and trying to make sure that he wins his race. he was one of the aid, of course, who voted to oust kevin carvey. so there s that dynamic there as well. i will tell you a lot of freedom caucus members are a little bit upset with donald trump and his political operation at the level at which he s, he s gone in terms of the intensity of trying to endorse me it s primaries. they think it s not productive, not helpful or not helpful to the conservative cause. in particular to be endorsing against these members particularly when you have bob good, who someone when who is the chairman of the freedom caucus, the freedom caucus have ten years ago is not the freedom caucus of today. it s basically a devotion to donald trump, right and bob good is especially so circumstance because he endorsed ron desantis early on in the presidential campaign. so there might be some bad blood there between him and donald trump, and that might have led to the endorsement of his primary opponent. but it s definitely an interesting dynamic to watch it multiple revenge tour is kind of taking their way through his district exactly how i would say it. so this is something that we ve been found how in closely on the show, different, different topic the questions about chatgpt the new kind voice of chatgpt and scarlet johanson, who is very upset about that to the point where she sued over the fact that there was a very uncanny similarity to her voice in this movie. watch good morning. good morning. e of a meeting in five minutes. you want to try getting too funny get good. i m funny learn everything about everything and of course, sam altman, the head of chatgpt tweeted her just one word before he rolled out this new ai. now congress says they want scarlet johanson to come testify. what s that about? well, speaking of nancy mace, it s actually her subcommittee on the house oversight committee that s requested seeing this interview with scarlet johanson. a. tried to schedule it for next month, but apparently it s not going to happen until later this year, maybe not even till october i think this is an example of the legislative process in congress not moving as fast as ai is moving both the development of the technology as well as these moves that are happening private industry like places like openai, like the organization that sam altman leads that s gonna be a struggle for congress as they try to address a very complex topic like this. and we ve talked about this before. but when you see a request for testimony that doesn t actually come to fruition for another four or five, maybe even six months the technology looks very different next week compared to now write much less five or six months from now. yeah. and that s something that congress is going to have to contest with, is making sure that they are moving at the speed, not of congress, but of the technology which is difficult. i mean, we re still waiting on them to do something comprehend hands up on social media has been around now for 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with hamas today, blinken met with benny gantz. he had resigned from the israeli war cabinet on sunday after criticizing netanyahu s strategy in gaza yesterday, blinken met with prime minister benjamin netanyahu and with israel s defense minister pressing them to commit to the proposed deal and asking countries in the region to put the same pressure on hamas joining me now to discuss as cnn national security analyst shawn turner, shawn, good morning to you let s just dig in a little bit at to what blinken is doing here. the way that american officials are framing this in public is that they are waiting on hamas, that israel is on board with this american plan, but there does seem to be some murkiness around it. how do you see this playing out? especially in the wake of this very high-profile hostage rescue that also of course led to the deaths of scores of palestinians good morning, case you it s good to be with you when you he listened to israel s response to the biden ceasefire plan. i think that would most people are hearing is you re hearing comments like israel accepts the plan, urine comments like israel believes that this is a good first step, but we re not hearing a full-throated endorsement of the plan and i think that while that a lot of people are cautiously optimistic that this is the plan that will achieve a ceasefire. there s still a lot of unknowns here. look, i think that what i see here is a fact that israel this feeling, increasing pressure from the international community. it goes without saying that this is no longer a localized or regional issue for israel, that the pressure is intense and they re being criticized by all sectors of the globe so i think that what we re going to see here is we re going to, we re going to see the support of this plan continued to strengthen or going to see israel wait this out, and we re going to see hamas as we always see with hamas, try to leverage this plants to get as much as they possibly can. i think this is the best possible option that we ve had in a long time. so i m cautiously optimistic that this is going to work out shawn there s some reporting in the wall street journal about messages from mr. sinwar, who is the head of hamas, who has been messaging with hamas officials that the qatari and egyptian emissaries, and it s reported that he said, we ve the israeli he s right where we want them. and then he also compared what s going on with palestinian civilians to national liberation conflicts in say algeria end. he said, quote, these are necessary sacrifices and quote, how do you think that illuminates the thinking of hamas at this point? you, at this point 0.1 of the big concerns that we ve all had is the fact that hamas continues to use civilians to achieve their objectives. i mean, when we look at the number of palestinians who have been killed, it s, it s astronomical i think that what this does a message like that i think it s obviously not constructive, casey, because there is a deal that s on the table. and what hamas needs do if you read the language of a deal, it s very clear in terms of what hamas needs to do. there s no wiggle room for hamas. and so a message like that suggests that there is wiggle room at that there s some negotiation that can or should happen with israel, and that s simply not the case. this is a deal that lays out what hamas should do. and i think that the challenge punch that we see with hamas is that even though we see a message like that, hamas is not always in control you have a number of different groups and factions that be maybe making decisions that are not necessarily in line with with what the negotiators want to do so it s not helpful. but again, i think that that s the kind of rhetoric we oftentimes i m see. this is a good deal and there s a real opportunity here to really some of the pressure and two, and the humanitarian crisis in gaza all right. sean turner for us it s morning. i serve a much appreciate your time. thank you for being here thanks, casey all right. time now for sports, the florida panthers are two wins away from hoisting the stand can we cup for the first time in franchise history if they get there are andy scholes has this morning s bleacher report, andy, good morning. good morning. cases. so edmonds and they really wanted to win this series that only for there fans, but for all of canada, canadian team has not won the stanley cup since 1993. state of florida. meanwhile, laken when it off for the third time in five years, but this wouldn t be the first for the panthers. now the oilers striking first in game two, mathias et calm putting this one past survey, row barofsky there, but that would be the oilers only goal of the knife fast-forward to the third period panthers. now up to one, edmonds is leon dry side hi, idle elbows, alexander barkat in their head right there that really fired up the panthers even more. barkov, he needed help get into the bench, did not return to this game. 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i don t know, it is fair to ask. four not ms after the hour. jury deliberations continue in hunter biden s gun trial. carley: brooke singman has the latest. brooke: the jury will continue this morning after no verdict was reached yesterday. the first son did not testify in his own defense. he was joined by a dozen family members. before deliberations began, prosecution presented an alleged text in a potential blow to defense. text sent on october 11 says meet me at 7-11 at 3:00. it is unclear if hunter met that draw drug dualer. alan dershowitz says the message is clear. best thing that can happen to president trump is if hunter biden getting prove beyond any doubt it is where this trial is convicted. if you are trump tried in new york, automatic guilt. if you are biden and tried in delaware, very different. best thing that could happen to trump is acquittal for hunter biden. brooke: 345,000 dollars could cover jill biden s 1400 per hour to operate the first lady s government plane. jill biden has only missed one day of that trial. todd: glad i got up in the middle of the night to pay for jill biden to fly back and forth. carley: she flew from france and delaware and delaware to france on the same day president biden called called it an exist threat. fox cameras capturing illegals crossing into the country. here is what one told our crews. i love biden. why do you love him? 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did you pay anyone to get here? no, i search internet and follow and got away and come here. what do you think of president biden? biden? i love biden. why do you love him? biden help us. todd: of course he helps you, by letting you in. bring in sheriff panel, wayne ivy, leo dlut to the know of lewis and clark county and rkirn donnahuuechl biden administration is looking into more border action, what goes through your mind when you see this administration struggling to reinvent the wheel when everything they need is on the books and has been forever? political stunt. too little too late, they could have secured the border long ago. instead they handcuffed men and women of border patrol and now we re overrun with drugs flooding the border, overrun with illegals coming across the border. they account have protected our border, fought terrorism, they are doing a political stunt and clown show. todd: 8 million migrants since president biden took office. people have lost their lives to drug overdoses with 70,000 being primarily fentanyl. president trump said over the weekend, listen. crooked joe signed an executive order that is pro-invasion, pro-child trafficking, pro-woman trafficking, pro-human trafficking and pro-drug dealers. it is a pro-drug dealer bill. it is weak and ineffective. millions of people will continue pouring in and coming right through the border like they have never come through before. they are changing the fabric of our country, destroying our country. todd: sheriff dlid you tell how would sheriffs like you partner with new trump administration to do away with what the cartels have done, put a stop to it. first thing we will do, go through the sheriff s association to talk about things and how we can partner, such as stopping the illegal flow. more importantly, cartels are overrunning and controlling the borders and been in power last three years. we need to address cartel, human trafficking and fentanyl overdoses. we re a border state, i tell you, every state in the united states is a border state. people are not staying there and have a lot of social impancts when they come to your community. they need help and they will run you dry quickly. not that we don t have compassion, that is not it, it is entering this country legally. todd: sheriff donahue, what happens if biden wins? will cartels grow more powerful than they are now if he gets a second term? without question, they will. we are overrun by illegal immigration, human smuggling, human trafficking and drugs. cartels are in every state in the united states and northern border is a threat, southern border is a threat and this is a national security issue, unfortunately, if he gets back in office, i fear for the united states as a whole. we cannot afford for him to do more damage than he s already done and this will pail in comparison if he gets another four years. the american people need to wake up. this is in your face right now with criminality, cartels and they will become more embolden and you will see far more criminality and violence in the united states. todd: thank you, keep up the fight. carley: fox and friends exclues i was, parents of the couple murdered by gangs during a mission trip to haiti join us for the first interview since this unthinkable tragedy, their story you will see only here, that is next. respiratory [ engine revving ] listen. horsepower keeps you going, but torque gets you going. 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she was a devoted wife. she had no children of her own, little kelly over there was a s spiritual child of hers. she was sweet and loved those children. loved haiti. loved davy. an incredible human. carley: dave, what would you remember about your daughter? so many things. if you were to sum it up, their lives, it is about love and about commitment, their love for god and love for each other and commitment to the calling and the commitment to the people of haiti that they evenually gave their lives for. tell us about your son and who he was as a person? he was amazing, there wasn t anything he couldn t do or figure out. he would go and learn how to do anything and fix it. it was all about sharing love of christian abata with others and upon hadding those in need and they did that during their time there in haiti. carley: they did just that. ben, the situation in haiti has been going on for sometime now, almost completely out of the news in the united states and given what happened, it feels like it shouldn t be. what are conditions in haiti? it is awful over there and david could probably speak more to that than me being there so long and understand ing the people of haiti and knowing how to speak the language. it is like almost complete anarchy with very little government set up, it makes everything difficult for people there, especially. it is a dark place. i believe that the darkest places need light and davy and natalie were there. carley: david, pick up where ben left off. your son and daughter-in-law were working for a mission that you and your wife started. you have given of yourself and your family, too. tell us about the situation there and what needs to be done to help these people. yeah, it is terrible. we ve been there 26 years, started missions 24 years ago. the last four years have been complete anarchy, we have no current elected officials, they are by a ruling group trying to help haiti. gangs have stepped in, there is no rule of law, and have taken over. killing the president themselves, i don t know the details, i don t know if a gang or mrit cap opposition, but everybody expected international help would step in then and prime minister two years ago begged for international help saying the gangs had become too strong and were getting unlimited supply of ammo in the country and they said police were outmanned and needed help. a year later, it was approved for international force to come in, we are still waiting for them to get there. what we have experienced is great tragedy, haitian people have been experiencing this f forfour or five years. they are affected by gangs and their family members have been killed by it. carley: my goodness, naomi, your son and daughter were missionaries in the truest sense. they were bringing the word of god despite rest unfolding around them. they were in danger, they voluntarily put themselves in that situation for the greater good. i mean, the character your daughter showed at such a young age, how remarkable is that? it is beautiful. it is truly beautiful to see what they did there and how much they love the culture and the people. carley: ben, before i let you go, at the funeral, you spoke about the moment davy asked permission to marry your daughter. apparently, he was sweating, can you tell us about that? as dad of four daughters, it is next to salvation, most important decision you will make is choosing a spouse for life. it is a big deal, i want to make sure it is the right one and of course, davy was and its amazing how they fit together. carley: your son and daughter were more special than most and god secured a spot in heaven for them on the day they were born. dave and naomi, thank you for joining us and allowing us to remember your children with you. thank you. carley: you re welcome. todd: such absolute strength, those missionaries were doing the lord s work, may the lord watch over that family. carley: thousands attended the funeral. todd: now to this, president biden making an appeal to black voters on june tenth and sparking controversy when he said this. president biden: be clear, they are all ghosts in new g garments trying to take it back and making it harder for black people to vote, closing doors of opportunity, attacking values of diversity, equity and inclusion. todd: oh, boy, joining me now is larry elder. how do you view a false fearmongering statement like that? well, todd, i m old enough to know every republican candidate, republican president in my lifetime has been called a racist. i was 12 years old when barry g goldwater was elected and stifrn of fascismismful is in the air. fast forward to george herbert walker bush. he was called a racist and soros compared him to a propaganda minister of adolf hitler. donald trump has taken it to another level, it is on steroids. that is what democrats do, they have lost the white vote, the way they win elections, tell black people they are perpetual victims and that is what they do. carley: larry, at this j juneteenth ceremony, the president made a speech, cameras were on the president when he appeared to freeze during a performance for quite sometime. it is getting attention this morning. take a look at this. carley: you have the president standing in between the vice and george floyd s brother on the other side of him who wrapped his arm around him to help him out with some time the president being stationary. this video will not help with the age concerns, as well. come on, carley, that was joe biden s version of doing the robot. i believe those debates will not take place. donald trump issued a couple demands, one is joe biden take a drug test. as you know, he was confuse order iraq and ukraine. todd: none of that worked well yesterday to win black votes. shifting gears, surrounding exhibit, honoring victims of nova music festival. chanting long live intifada and at the same moment, this is happening, congresswoman aoc, alexandria ocasio-cortez being panned for saying this. watch. at the same time, it is also true that accusations and false accusations of antisemitism are wielded against people of color and women of color by bad faith political actors and weaponizing antisemitism is used to divide us and create a false choice between fight for jewish safety and cause for palestinian self-d self-determination. c todd: are my eyes deceiving me? calling for elimination of israel, celebration at basically a museum that shows artifacts from the day. there is a port-a-potty where you see bullet holes where people did not make it out of those. i guess that is not antisemitism, larry. todd, your eyes do not deceive. anti-defamation league have conducted surveys on antisemitism and blacks that are antisemitism is higher than nonblack serious problem in the democratic party. you have hakeem jeffress jeffers and he wrote a paper in college defending and al sharpton, a democratic king maker with a long list of antisemitism comments. there was riot between blacks and jews in 1991, blacks were assaulting jews and he is on tape saying if the jews want to come to my house, let them do it. serious problem, not just aoc and ilhan omar, long series in the democratic party. todd: larry elder, we thank you. former new york governor an crew cust cuoma will testify before lawmakers in a few hours. carley: cheryl casone will preview his testimony coming up n next. ur skin is ever-changing, take care of it with gold bond s age renew formulations of 7 moisturizers and 3 vitamins. for all your skins, gold bond. maria and julio thought their life would never slow down. then one day, it finally did. you were made to find inner peace. we were made to track flight prices to paradise. we love being outside, but the sun makes our deck and patio too hot to enjoy. now thanks to our new sunsetter retractable awning, we can select full sun or instant shade in just 60 seconds. it s 20 degrees cooler under the sunsetter and we get instant protection from harmful uv rays and sun glare. for pricing starting at less than $1,000, transform your outdoor living space into a shaded retreat your family will love! when you call, we ll rush you a special $200 discount certificate with your free awning idea kit! you ll get your sunsetter for as little as $799. but, this is a limited time offer! for over 20 years, sunsetter has been the bestselling retractable awning in america! call now for this free awning idea kit packed with great awning solutions that will let you enjoy your deck or patio much more often. plus, get this $200 discount certificate that will bring you your sunsetter for as little as $799. but this is a limited time offer. call now! sunsetters are backed with up to a 10-year limited warranty! more than 1 million families in america own and love their sunsetter. now, you too can discover why “life is better under a sunsetter.” it s like putting an extension on your home. and talk about options: choose motorized or manual and for just a little extra, add led lighting for evening enjoyment. there are so many incredible styles to choose from in our free awning idea kit. get a custom-built awning, without the custom-built price! call now to get the whole sunsetter story. you ll get this free awning idea kit. plus, a $200 discount certificate and there s no obligation. with sunsetter, you ll create the ultimate outdoor living space. perfect for entertaining friends. call now for your free awning idea kit, with local dealer info and $200 discount certificate. “life is better under a sunsetter!”act now and save! 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the main reason we do this, give insight into what the building industry really is. and changen the narrative what e think about us as carpenters. this is a great occupation and kids coming up should not be afraid of it. why did you decide to become a welder, you have a big following. i m sure that comes with financial benefit and opportunities, as well. i started my welding career 15 years ago, i ve worked from nuclear power plant to hydro electric turbine units and i want to show that you are not limited by the way you look, you are not in a box everyone wants to put you in. there are no rules. work harvard, try hard and be good at what you do and people will respect you. carley: that is so cool. matt, engagement around your videos is huge. vocational focus community college is on the rise. trade industries are having a moment right now, why do you think that is? i think people are a little tired of going into det with student loans and figuring out how to support families without going through that. trade is great way to do that. carley: cost of college versus cost of trade school is drastic, if anybody, you want to inspire young women who could be interested in following your path. if anybody is listening and heard something you said, follows you on socialia, how should they go about doing it? i went two a two-year school and got a degree in applied science with focus on welding. that started foundation for people believing in me. you can t say i can t do it because i have this degree, i have certifications to prove i can. it speaks to the possibility of graduating with no student debt. i paid through college and graduated with zero student debt. carley: that is fantastic. wall street journal featured both of you saying you are making blue collar cool and we wanted to meet you and hear your story. thank you for joining us. have a great day. todd: don t sell yourself short, i ve seen you weld. carley: secret between me and todd. yeah. have you seen this video of a bull jumping over a fen ce into the rodeo? the woman who recorded it is here to tell you what it was like. todd: here is steve doocy with look at what is coming up top of the hour. you are getting an early birthday present. steve: i learned to weld in high school in the day when they had metal shop. carley: i did take wood shop and i have the key rack i made. todd: me, too. it works. steve: things we keep forever to show our children, look what i made in high school. carley: exactly right. steve: i made a gun rack. i know. fox and friends kicks off in eight minutes and two seconds. we have a busy program on fox and friends . power and senate on the line, stakes are high and nevada state voters head to the polls today for the state s primary election. republican candidate and retired army captain sam brown, sam will join us this morning. also new york city police depend is looking for two migrants that attacked and robbed a tourist and if that is not enough, they were staying in a taxpayer funded shelter. should not work that way. calls are growing to shut down migrant shelters, we ll talk to a democrat who is joinings them. this middle school principal is cracking down on vaping in school. remember smoking in the boys room, now they are vaping. he will tell us about unique punishment he has in store for rule breakers. busy three hours, kicks off seven minutes and 45 seconds from now on the channel you trust for morning news. todd and carley back in a couple, you are watch ing fox and friends first . dinner compreh dinner compreh , . have you always had trouble losing weight and keeping it off? 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[bleep], [bleep] todd: oh my gosh. have you seen these videos yet? shows the moment a bull breaks loose at oregon rodeo jumps the fence and hurts five people in the process. danielle smithers was in the stands and caught it all in camera the shot you saw in the stands. danielle, set the scene for us as you are taking this video. what going through your mind. first of all, good morning, thank you for having me. the first initial thing that i thought was, wow, you can hear me state in the video i m completely in shock. a friend and mine had just been down there in the common area where that bull had jumped moments before returning do our seats. and we were actually standing at the gate to try to get a closer look at the bulls. and the sheriff s department was very diligent in doing their job they looked right at us and said you are either in or out. this is not a safe place for you to be and you need to return to your seats. so we went up and took our seats and i initially started shining my flashlight and swaying with the crowd and turned around and looked at my husband and said this is way too beautiful for me to be shining the light. i m going to stop and i m going to start recording this. and i just happened to catch him right as he was coming out of the gate. todd: unreal. were you scared for your family s safety when you saw this bull do this jump over the fence? my entire family was there. we even had a group of friends there. and i was not scared at all. at that point when that bull escaped i was in probably the safest place that i could have been high in those bleachers. my thoughts did go out to the people that i had initially seen moments before in the common area. todd: those people while injured are not life-threatening injuries. thank god. let s be real, if to the for the quick work of the rodeo crew, how much worse could this have been danielle? it could have been much worse. the rodeo crew i will say was absolutely amazing. they immediately they had been following that bull. they said he was out to get to safe place. they initiated protocol. and i haven t timed the video, but i would say that they had him in less than 30 seconds roped and contained. todd: wow. they were amazing. todd: we got to run. will you bring your family back to the rodeo ever again? 5 seconds to you you, danielle. most definitely. not only the sisters rodeo every year but every other rodeo that is close. we are definite rodeo fans. todd: danielle smithers thank you for that video. the bull was named party bus. more like the bachelor party at the end of the night at the beginning. carley: not a busy would want to be on. todd: fox & friends begins right now. carley: have a good day, everybody. the sitcom begins. brian: sounds liked i should be walking and the kitche
thank you for watching. we were just talking about the summer olympics, it s worth noting, that minutes from now, we will officially be two years out from the 2026 world cup that will take place right here in the u.s. after 30 years, and you can stream all the action live on telemundo and peacock so get your countdown clock started now. on that note, i wish you a very good night. from all our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thank you for staying up late with me. okay, there is a lot going on tonight. the former president of the united states and presumptive republican nominee had a meeting with a probation officer today which is a thing we have to get used to saying. we will talk about what may have come up and how it could impact his sentencing coming up in a month. pennsylvania governor josh shapiro will talk about one of the biggest political questions of the moment. how should joe biden and democrats talk about trumps conviction and how much? we will start at the supreme court and a mountain of ethics scandal sick out much bigger and it got bigger because of a woman named lauren windsor. she is a progressive actavis was known to approach important republican figures every 10 she s an ally and make lettering statements and then record her targets making candid comments. comments reported at the historical society annual dinner, supreme court justice samuel alito offered his assessment of the political and ideological struggle in america. i don t know that we can negotiate with the left in no way that needs to happen through the polarization to end. i think it s a matter of winning . i think you re probably right. on one side or the other, one side or the other is going to win. i don t know. i mean, there can be a way of working a way of living together peacefully. it s difficult. there are differences on fundamental things that really can t be compromised. they really can t be compromised. it s not like you can the difference. one side or the other is going to win. we heard in a vacuum by someone that those comments may not seem particularly striking but remember alito is one of nine justices on the supreme court. it is supposed to conduct itself with utmost fairness and impartiality in interpreting the constitution and adjudicating the laws and one of its justices, samuel alito, is telling a stranger at a crowded event that he believes one political side is going to win. that there is no place for compromise. following his time on the court, it s no secret which side he believes he is on. look at the past few weeks. justice alito has refused to recuse himself from a january 6 case and the trump immunity case currently sitting before the court even after reports that his home displayed flags with right-wing political symbolism including ago upside down american flag in the days after january 6. alito who built a reputation over the course of years as being tough on crime and unsympathetic to criminal defendants also voiced a newfound empathy for january 6 defendants of all people and donald trump during oral arguments in two cases. take for example the case of a january 6 defendant. alito questions the justice department use of obstruction stature to rescue people involved in the capitol attack. he suggested that if the court does not intervene, prosecutors could also seek to use it people involved in peaceful demonstration like those that take place in a courtroom from time to time. peaceful protest is clearly not the same as people smashing windows and doors to invade the capitol and causing members of congress, never mind the republican vice president of the united states to flee for their lives. in the face of multiple ethics scandals we ve all been talking about involving undisclosed is from mega-donors to members of the supreme court, the 11th hour has been unapologetic telling the wall street journal, quote, no provision in the constitution gives congress the authority to regulate the supreme court period. fairness and impartiality in appearance and action are the principles that judges are supposed to follow. especially in the highest court of the land, and at least at some point samuel alito knew the. this into an answer to his confirmation hearing in 2006. do you believe there s any room for a judge on value or personal believes when he or she interprets the constitution? judges have to be careful not to inject their own views into the interpretation of the constitution and for that matter into the interpretation of statutes. that s not the job we are given. it s not authority we are given. it s not the authority we are given. that s not the job we are given. alito at least knew then what his job he entailed. despite all his actions and statements he also apparently cannot stand those who claim he s not living up to those standards. as he told the wall street journal, everyone is free to express disagreement with our decisions and to criticize our reasoning as they see fit. saying or implying the court is becoming an legitimate institution are questioning our integrity crosses the line. he wants to be revered as an impartial judge. as this new tape and his time on the bench has shown, especially the last several weeks and months, he s more of a player, actively engaged in one side struggle to win. he has given every reason to expect this from him given these actions that also doesn t mean it s something we should or need to accept. the formal president of the naacp defense fund and the chair in civil rights a howard university and she joins me now. i always want to know what you are thinking but as i listen to these tapes, i wanted to know what are you thinking as you are listening. we are all guilty of becoming numb two things. how big of a deal is this? i think it s a big deal. it s a big deal and the cumulative cents, as you point out, this is not a colloquy that floats around in the air not surrounded by plenty of context. we have seen these statements from justice alito, not only in his decisions, but when he went to rome after the dobbs decision, we have heard him in similar ways. what is it that s disturbing about this particular excerpt of this conversation, there are two things i think. one, the way in which he was bantering back and forth with this woman who we didn t know was taping him in a way that suggested sympathy to her position. she was saying some pretty extreme things. probably the worst of it was when she said we have to work to move this country back towards godliness. he said, i agree with you. that to me is a very shocking statement. i do not think that is his charge as a supreme court justice to suggest he believes the country needs to move toward godliness. she spoke often of what it was like in the past and we need to return to some period in which things were more moral and he was agreeing with her. i do not know what period they were referring to. a period in which there was much more religious talk in american life but there was also talk of keeping black people out of schools. what was the time period? i think all of this, the reason why it s important is because the standard is a reasonable person standard and justice alito raised it himself when he refused to recuse himself from a variety of cases. he said because a reasonable person knowing all the facts, that s what he said about the flag controversy. when we probe, we realize we do not know all the facts and the facts he has told us are not necessarily the accurate facts. we learned that from the flag flying issue when justice alito gave a line that does not add up. now, the reasonable person would reasonably believe perhaps that this justice is not impartial. that is the standard for recusal, but we will never get there unless parties actual file motions to recuse. that s why i am hoping this will show the united states which is the party and trump privilege case and others that they have to have the courage to demand that these justices come forward in the context of recusal and explain themselves. we are not going to get it from sending letters to the justices and we will not get it from having the justices just recuse themselves because they will not do it. we need to get serious. we also need hearings from the senate judiciary committee to get to the bottom of this. this is quite serious. quite disturbing. quite alarming, and it s not illegitimate to question the legitimacy of the court when we have had this barrage across the line conduct and misstatements and disclosures that would call into question the impartiality of any court. yeah. one of the things it was striking to me too is how he blames the erosion of trust in the court. he blames it on all sorts of things. i was reminded of this today that he said in 2023 and then talk about it with you. it s easy to blame the media, but i do blame them because they do nothing but criticize us. and so, they have really eroded trust in the court. i mean it s pretty rich given his actions and his own words. it s not the first time he s blamed someone else. his wife, everyone attacking him. what is that about? i want to ask you, what should people be doing if they are outraged about this as well? i find this mortifying. i am embarrassed for the court. we hear it with clarence thomas when he talks about the nastiness in washington, d.c. and we hear what alito. it s the media that eroded trust in the supreme court. no, s the stream preet supreme court that eroded trust. this teenage refusal to take responsibility for their actions is incredibly alarming and disturbing. i put that at the feet of chief justice roberts. he is running the court. if i were running an institution and something extraordinary happened that like the dobbs case which is something that never happened before in the history of the court, a decision was leaked to the public. i wouldn t just be trying to get to the bottom of who leaked it. as vigorously as possible. i would want to understand what we created in our culture that encouraged such a breach of culture and protocol. all of these things should require the court to self reflect, look at themselves. why you have a justice on the court like clarence thomas who is not making the appropriate disclosures? he s making them now that he has been found out. it has nothing to do with the media. the media is doing its job. the media has been quite kind to the supreme court including around the flag issue which we didn t hear until three years later. it is not the media and the justices have to stop being stubborn teenagers and take responsibility for their actions. this is where the leadership of the chief comes in. when the chief allows a code of conduct, a voluntary code, as he allowed several months ago, a code so much weaker than the code that holds all other federal judges, he is essentially allowing and creating this culture of impunity in which they create rules that accommodate the actions they have already taken. we have a real problem, ethical problem on the supreme court. i blame us. i blame congress. we have failed. we have counted on the good behavior and the norms of the supreme court instead of putting in place real rules they have to follow and congress does have the power to be able to issue a code of ethics for the united states supreme court, and they should do so. we cannot blame this on the justices. we can t blame it on trump. we can t blame it on anything else but the belief that norms are not. they are not they are not enough and we have to get serious about what kinds of protections we need in place for the integrity of the nation s highest court. the norms are no more. lots of homework including from chief roberts. sherrilyn ifill, thank you for joining me. coming up, pennsylvania governor josh shapiro joins me to talk about terms conviction and his promises of revenge. the former president of the presumptive nominee had a meeting with his probation officer today. it doesn t get normal to say. we will tell you what he was likely asked about and how it can affect his sentencing. what is cirkul? 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i think what you probably saw, and it s only 30 minutes. it s a short interview, but you probably saw todd blanche taking the lead to trotta highlight positive aspects of donald trump s character that they think are mitigating circumstances and things they think are going to show he is dashes supervision. his criminal conduct which he denies, there s no victim here. i think the probation officer needs to look closer because her are victims. the american people were victims by not getting information that he was paying off the adult film star that could have affected the election outcome. other things he will focus on, i was a former president of the united states. i performed a great public service and should take that into account and that s mitigating. he committed some of this crime , signing those checks, to reimburse michael cohen from the oval office. you can argue it s an aggravating factor. he will say he s a first-time offender. who else is a first-time offender? michael cohen and he was sentenced in jail for the same conduct. he will point to the fact he is old. allen weisselberg is essentially the same age and he is in rikers. a lot of the factors i expect todd blanche trotta highlight in this interview and its going to be on the prosecutors to make their case separately to the probation office in presenting the facts, the trial record showing all those gag order violations, to show he is not following the court s ureters and he will not follow the orders of probation so sentence him to jail. a lot of things to argue. i mentioned one of the standard lines of questioning, i believe, during one of these meetings is whether the person convicted of a felony associates with criminals. trump has a number of people who fall into that category. i presume he will say no. i do not know what he said but what if he does associate with convicted criminals? are the repercussions? there are. if he were sentenced to a term probation, there would be terms to that. among them is he cannot associate with other convicted felons. steve bannon for example is somebody was convicted for criminal contempt and has a trial that will start in a few months before judge merchan on a separate fraud case. with someone like that, who he has not pardoned because he pardoned a number of other criminals, he has not pardoned, he would not be able to associate with and these are people that likely involved in his campaign and he would want to associate with. figure he will do that through intermediaries if he is sentenced to probation. thank you for explaining this to us and helping us understand it. donald trump is not going to be able to end democracy on his own. he will need help and lots of help is available. we will introduce you to someone who could be his chief of staff who has chilling plans. josh shapiro joins me to talk about the ways in which the rule of law will be on the ballot in 2024. ever since a jury of 12 americans convicted donald trump on 34 felony counts, trump and his republican allies used it as an opportunity to spin up their plans for revenge. you know. justifiable retribution against their perceived enemies. what s good for the goose is good for the gander. i encourage all my colleagues as a member of congress to aggressively go after the president and his family. is every house committee controlled by republicans using subpoena power in every way it needs to right now with every republican da starting every investigation they need to now? should democrats be in jail. should he lock them up in jail? would that be a terrible thing. but they want to do it. it s a terrible terrible path they are leading us to and it s possible that it will have to happen to them. so, in their description, as you heard, it s about karma. fighting fire with fire. that is the story they are telling over and over. it s the one far too many writers are running with. in the media, the story tends to be framed as follows. will trump seek revenge for his legal travails or won t he? but that framing unwittingly lets trump set the terms of the debate and applies he is vowing to do to democrats what was done to him. you see, obviously, there s a big difference between what happened to trump and what he is promising to do to democrats or anyone he is mad at. despite what he and his allies claim, trump was legitimately investigated, indicted, tried, and convicted unanimously by a jury of his peers. 12 everyday americans. there was a legal basis and evidence for all of it presented during the trial. what trump and his allies want is not that kind of deliberative due process. they are not trying to hold people accountable for actual wrongdoing. they are trying to reshape the american justice system to make it a tool to go after democrats or anyone who has done trump wrong. political prosecutions were major goal for the maga movement longer for trump got indicted or convicted. i was reminded this weekend, the washington post published a eye-popping piece on influential figure in trump eye orbit that you might not be familiar with. i had never heard of the guy he there. is a former director of the office of management and budget and his name is russ vought. according to the piece, he s a potential chief of staff in a trump term and could wield a lot of power. a self-proclaimed christian nationalist who departs at the heritage foundation project 2025 on how to remake the executive branch in a trump presidency. in september 2022, before trump got indicted or entered the presidential race, he wrote an essay saying the left dragged american 28, quote, constitutional moment saying it was time for the right to reinterpret the constitution and a radical new way. he encouraged conservatives to, quote, throw up residents and legal paradigms that have wrongly developed over the last two 200 years. in their place he laid out plans for, quote, donald trump to deploy the military to quash civil unrest, seize control over the justice department, and this is the power to withhold congressional appropriations. is just on his first day back in office. he s not calling for accountability through due process of the law to hold people accountable. he wants to reshape the system for the purpose of punishing trump s perceived enemies. last year, he told the heritage foundation crowd, quote, the department of justice is not an independent agency. if anyone brings it up in a policy meeting, i want them out of the meeting. this is the larger picture outside of the news cycle and latest public and cash republican reactions. the republican line of fight fire with fire you hear over and over again is really cover for a frightening plan to overhaul the justice system and the executive branch at large. by the way, it predates trump s convictions and indictments. it s what they ve had in mind all along. pennsylvania governor josh shapiro joins me next. switch to shopify and sell smarter at every stage of your business. take full control of your brand with your own custom store. scale faster with tools that let you manage every sale from every channel. and sell more with the best converting checkout on the planet. a lot more. take your business to the next stage when you switch to shopify. oooh! i can t wait for this family getaway! shingles doesn t care. shingles is a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. ahhh, there s nothing like a day out with friends. that s nice, but shingles doesn t care! 99% of adults 50 years or older already have the virus that causes shingles inside them, and it can reactivate at any time. a perfect day for a family outing! guess what? 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the system where every american is accountable to the same set of laws or we would we prefer where the president can prosecute whomever he chooses simply because he does not like them. the election will be about a lot of things. that is definitely one of them. joining me is pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, previously the state attorney general. i am grateful you are here. i want to start with i laid out. this idea that donald trump and his allies are bowing but they are telling supporters is simply fighting fire with fire. you did something it to our guy and we will come after you. to me, when you look at the specifics of their plans, it feels like that s not the right description. it s not just revenge but a plan to reshape the system to go after their enemies. last week you said something that struck me. you said i am scared to death the fees in charge of the system. i want to ask you what you mean by that or what do you expect, what worries you what could happen to the system? i am deeply concerned by this system. it s why we should not put the country at risk by putting donald trump back in charge, back in charge of the justice system, back in charge of our military. donald trump came out of those 34 convictions doing what he always does when he gets in legal trouble. a cut and paste job if you will. i remember this from my time as attorney general, he complains, he bemoans the fact that he lost and makes up excuses and tries to pivot away from personal responsibility. i was the attorney general in pennsylvania where he and his allies took us to court 43 different times to stop certain people from voting and stop vote from being cast. he went sero-43. we protected the will of law and the people. trump wants to come back and as he said exact revenge. the idea he would be put in charge of the justice system and have people surrounding him that are trying to get his perceived enemies should scare all americans. it s another example of the kind of chaos that he would inflict on the country if he is given the opportunity to lead this nation again. we have always been a nation that respects the rule of law, respects our institutions. trump tried to undermine our faith in one another and faith in the institutions. we didn t let him get away with it in 2020 and i hope we don t let him get away with it in 2024 and i will do everything in my power to ensure he is not successful and our institutions stand and hold. let me ask you about something you alluded to which is the takeover of the justice system. i think when people hear that, they think it s a reshuffling of the government. what does it mean? i talked about russ vought, this figure in trump s world. he could be his chief of staff. who s. this is a man who has openly said he does not believe the department of justice is an independent agency. i want to ask you, what is the danger of that? sometimes it feels like bureaucracy but it s more than that. it s a lot more than bureaucracy. it s dangerous if he controls the bureaucracy as well. think of the justice department. he would have the power to criminally prosecute people who did not do anything wrong but are his enemies. go after companies that he disagreed with. the products they are selling the manner in which they are conducting themselves. to use the justice department to strip away people s liberties and rights and freedoms and undermine the constitution. ignore the courts. essentially, have his way with the good people of this nation, which should scare everybody. in 2016 after donald trump was running, he and most people didn t know what they were doing and there were a few people around him the provided guardrails for his chaotic conduct. now those people who might provide those guardrails, they are gone and a lot of the dangers people around him know how the bureaucracy works. knows how the justice system works and knows how the military works. if he is given the opportunity to lead the nation again with this people around him who want to do real danger and take away your fundamental freedoms, that should scare the hell out of everybody and that s not the chaos we want in this country. it s the people who know how to manipulate it and the plans being written and a lot are online. keeping with the legal discussion, want to ask about the supreme court. we talked about the supreme court and justice samuel alito and this audio where he agreed there should be a fight to return the country to a place of godliness. this comes on the heels of reporting of a flag outside his house that s associated with january 6 and serious ethical scandals around thomas. lots of things. it feels like there is a credibility crisis for the supreme court. i want to ask you, what is the solution? remember, this is the court that donald trump packed in order to take away a woman s right to choose. in order to meet my daughter and other women out there have fewer rights today than they were born with. this is purposeful on donald trump s part to pack the court with these people that want to restrict our freedom. people who have their own agendas. justice alito is showing his agenda. by the way he flies his flags and apparently the way he runs his mouth as well. what the american people need to do is take that into consideration when they go vote this november. you want to give donald trump the ability to appoint more samuel alito s and clarence thomas s to the court? you want to give him the ability to put more people on the court who will take away our fundamental freedoms? justice thomas wrote in that opinion that abortion is really just the beginning. the fundamental reasoning, foundational reasoning used to overturn it could be applied in other ways. could be used to restrict your ability to marry who you love and undermine her ability to take the medications that you and your doctor want you to take. i fear this was just the beginning and of donald trump is given the ability to lead this nation again, but more those justices on the court, it will not only set us back for 40 years. the stakes are so high in this election. while donald trump and joe biden s names are on the ballot, and it s a binary choice. don t let anybody tell you there are others on the ballot who have no chance of winning. it s a binary choice between donald trump and joe biden, but in many ways it s not about those two. it s about the country we want for ourselves whether we value freedom, whether we care about our institutions, whether we believe that we have to move forward to brighter days are go back to a very dark time. this election is a referendum and reflection on all of us and we have a responsibility to turn out and get others to turn out who will stand up against the kind of extremism we ve seen on the supreme court and in the white house with trump and instead stand up for freedom. stand up for our fundamental values that continue to move the country forward. i have to ask you about pennsylvania. in addition to a legal expert, you are a governor and you know your state well. it has not been that long since these convictions stash we have seen impact in the polls. there s a lot of things on the ballot and on voters minds. is you talk to voters, do you think trump s convictions is going to be an issue that will influence people to are on the fence or have it come to joe biden at this point in your state? i don t know how the conviction will ultimately play out. the good people of pennsylvania, they care whether in rural or urban or suburban communities about basic things. they want good schools. safe communities. economic opportunities and they want their freedoms to be protected. you know what? i think they want to be led by someone who is honest and decent. someone who is on their side like joe biden. all they hear from donald trump is a bunch of whining about this country. i think trump has to quit whining and trying to divide us. we are producing more energy than ever before in this nation. we have the strongest economy in the world, and we are beating china for the first time in decades. more people went to work this morning in america than at any other time in the nation my ski history. i ve got a message to donald trump and his negativity and whining, stop talking about america. it s the greatest country on earth and it s time we start acting like it. the good people of pennsylvania understand this is a great country. understand we ve got a whole lot going for us, and it s time to continue this path of progress that joe biden has laid out and not go back to a negative time. not listen to the whining of the former president and instead focus on a positive future for all of us. quit your whining. that s a good message. thank you so much. i always enjoy talking to you. big story to tell. i take once-daily jardiance at each day s staaart. as time went on it was easy to seeee, i m lowering my a1c! jardiance works twenty-four seven in your body to flush out some sugar. and for adults with type 2 diabetes and known heart disease, jardiance can lower the risk of cardiovascular death, too. serious side effects may include ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration that can lead to sudden worsening of kidney function, and genital yeast or urinary tract infections. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking jardiance and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, ketoacidosis, or an allergic reaction. you may have an increased risk for lower limb loss. call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of infection in your legs or feet. taking jardiance with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. jardiance is really swell the little pill with a big story to tell! we don t know how many americans will be moved by donald trump s conviction when it s all said and done. there are some early signs that the verdict be swaying some former trump voters. this is what we heard from two time trump voters in a focus group. criminals should not be in charge. if they violate the laws, then they should be subject to exactly the same rose that all of us expected to abide to. he should serve jail time. penalty for the crime. they will negotiate and renegotiate and maybe he won t serve time, but he will get more time on television right here at election time. to underscore, that s two time trump voters saying lock him up. you just saw sarah, she conducted the focus group you just heard. dan is a former communications director for president barack obama. i want to start with the thing stash we only played one clip but that was from the two time trump voters who want trump held accountable it sounds like. the big leap year is they want him to be held accountable but are they turned off by trump or will they vote for biden instead or do we know that yet? in this particular group, five of the nine people in the group all of them two time trump voters, five were going to vote for biden. i think there s a lot of people who think somebody who voted for donald trump twice seem like a long shot for getting them to vote for biden. it s important to understand that for a section of voters who held their nose and vote for donald trump twice, and then saw what happened on january 6, saw donald trump s claims and lies about the election, they were already that was a redline for them. they were pretty far out. what the conviction does is it moves them from, and i hear this a lot from two time trump voters who are really upset by january 6, i m not going to vote or i will leave it blank. for some voters with the conviction did as he got them to a place where they said this guy is unfit to be in the white house so i will vote for biden not because i want to vote for him or because i want to vote for a democrat because i will vote for anybody that will keep donald trump out of the white house because he is that dangerous. you are always in the selection especially with swing voters who are center-right, for them you re not building a pro joe biden coalition. you re building a anti-trump coalition. as trump gets back in people s consciousness which is a lot of what s happening with the conviction, people are remembering, i don t like that guy. you are seeing a shift in voters before they were focused on negative things they thought about biden and now they are remembering the negative things they do not like about trump. it so interesting to watch her focus groups. dan, you and i know well there s big moments in campaigns. we have seen the campaign sharpening the rhetoric around the convictions. there s a difference between what the campaign says, and what the candidates say. when you look to the debate coming up, a couple weeks from now, what should the president be saying? he is trying to appeal to those voters and base voters who are not excited. what is the right framing of language? the conviction is the elephant in the room. you have to talk about it. calling him convicted felon as many times as possible and trying to win again points. that s not a good use. the conviction is a critical data point in the story that a lot of the polling and focus groups tell us we should be telling about trump which is he is in this for himself. he is running for office to protect himself from further legal jeopardy and help himself and his rich friends and exact revenge on enemies. that me first attitude is what got him in trouble to begin with. you have to take this conviction, it caused people to break out of their anti- politics bubble for a few minutes and pay attention then tell it to use to talk the broader story. use it in a disciplined, calm way that does not allow trump to drag you when the mud. that makes sense to me. sarah, i want to ask a similar question. there s a couple different audiences biden has to appeal to. is there anything that the president could say during the debate about the convictions that would turn them off? anything that would be a trigger about it? when it comes to swing voters, the thing for biden is not the message. it s how he says it. for them, they want to see joe biden can do this job. you have to get people over this hump that they think joe biden is too old. this is where trump wins often times. he has lunatic energy that makes him seem more the fishes, more aggressive, and sometimes when you listen to voters as they get into the strong weak framing where trump is bad and strong but biden is okay but weak. he has to show some strength. he cannot just say conviction over and over but he has to go on offense. the whole campaign right now has to go on offense. we are in the moment to push. we have to stop talking about democracy being at stake and the campaign has to campaign like democracy is at stake. joe biden has to show he is ready to go. it s not the name-calling of convicted felon but able to say this man is unfit and i am good to go. you ve got to show that and not just tell it. state of the union energy. it s about the vibes i am hearing. i want to ask about your sub stack encouraging people not to be stressed. everyone should subscribe to it. it. hi, i m amanda and i lost 37 pounds with golo. so i m a hair stylist and i m on my feet all of the time. with golo i have more energy. i m able to work and stand on my feet 10 hours a day and to me golo means a happier life a more successful life. a slow network is no network for business. that s why more choose comcast business. and now, we re introducing ultimate speed for business our fastest plans yet. we re up to 12 times faster than verizon, at&t, and t-mobile. and existing customers could even get up to triple the speeds. at no additional cost. it s ultimate speed for ultimate business. don t miss out on our fastest speed plans yet! switch to comcast business and get started for $49.99 a month. plus, ask how to get up to an $800 prepaid card. call today! with absorbine pro, pain won t hold you back from your passions. it s the only solution with two max-strength anesthetics to deliver the strongest numbing pain relief available. so, do your thing like a pro, pain-free. absorbine pro. that does it for me tonight. tonight. much appreciated. thanks to you at home. really happy to have you here. we have an interesting show for you tonight. particularly glad you re here for it. we re going to start a ways back as we sometimes do. when allied soldiers came ashore on the coast of france on the beaches of normandy for the d-day invasion, they opened up a new west
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the georgia congressional candidate who just walked off the stage in the middle of a debate all right 6:00 a.m. here in washington alive. look at the us capitol on this tuesday morning good morning, everyone and kasie hunt. it s wonderful to have you with us samuel alito s private beliefs apparently exposed in a secretly recorded audio tape, the conservative supreme court justice seeming to endorse a fight to return our country to a place of godliness and quote it was a liberal activist and filmmaker who secretly recorded the justice and his wife at a supreme court historical society dinner earlier this month people in this country, we re leaving that, keep fighting to return our country to a place the bottling names. i agree with important to underscore during that dinner, the activists misrepresented herself. she claimed to be a religious conservative the executive director of the supreme court historical society issued this statement on monday saying, quote, we condemn any sort surreptitious recordings of justice s at the event which is inconsistent with the entire spirit of the evening. attendees are advised that discussion of current cases, cases decided by current sitting justices or justices, jurors, pure prudence is strictly prohibited and may result in forfeiture of membership in the society earlier. in the conversation, the activist told alito that she didn t think that the right could negotiate with the left. here was his response one. side or the, other. there can be a way of working, our way of living together it s different because they re differences fundamental things that really can t comment so it s not like you re going to see what the difference a little hard to hear their finals here. molly ball, senior political correspondent at the wall street journal, meghan hayes, former special assistant to president biden, and matt gorman, the former senior adviser to the tim scott presidential campaign. welcome to all of you molly ball. this of course, i think underscores the pressure that alito is at the moment in our highly charged political environment where the justices are about to decide whether or not donald trump is immune in the january 6 case clearly, he s in a situation where he is responding in the affirmative to someone he is encountering at a party and yet the remarks are still illuminating in terms of how he thinks about things. yeah. i mean, i think as you said on the one hand, we ve all done the thing where someone approaches you that you don t know and you just kinda play along. you just sort of say you re agreeing with whatever it is that they re saying. i m either end it s no surprise to anyone that he s a conservative right, and that he does view, society as, as somewhat corrupted by a lack of godliness or i wouldn t be surprised to hear him say any of those things in a judicial opinion for example. so it s all pretty broadly consistent with the judicial philosophy and the political philosophy that we know that he subscribes to. i think also the fact that the recording is coming out tells you that increasingly the supreme court is being treated as another political branch of government. the people are sending trackers after them basically like they would with a political candidate monitoring their every utterance and looking through it for potentially damaging or politically useful bits of audio that, that can be used against them in what s essentially become a full-time political campaign. and that i think as we and others have reported, has contributed to a very high level of tension and division on the court itself has made it increasingly difficult to function. yeah, it s it s speaking of division on the court itself. i mean in this highly fraught moment that we find ourselves in as a country where there does seem to be this kind of looming question about violence. certainly we have had more violence in our politics in recent years than we had seen in another monitor campaigns with what happened on january 6, john roberts was also approached by this activist and he approached this very differently and it underscores a little bit of tension on the court as molly was just touching on. again, john roberts, appointed by george w bush. he is the chief justice. he is also a conservative but has carved out a much different kind of role for him self on the court. so when he was approached by this activist and some of these same themes of godliness. the question i believe was is the us a christian nation? here s how john roberts responded since i put here a little 20 years, i ve been quieter times but the idea that the court is in the middle of a lot of tumultuous stuff going on. that s nothing new. the civil war, we did that very vietnam. you people getting killed and i was there. this is all right. i mean, it s it s not all right. but it s not like it s dramatic medically different people that s a common thing. people, their own perspective like this is so slow ordinary i don t know. heed the christian nation question. robert s actually responded that he has jewish friends, muslim friends who might disagree with that. he went on to talk about it a little bit, but megan haze, there. he was saying he was talking about other cataclysmic periods in our history, the civil war vietnam basically saying that we re going to be all right in the end. what is your view of all of this? and the way it s an unfolded, but particularly this difference between alito roberts here. yeah. i mean, i do think that we re gonna be all right. our democracy is built to survive and hopefully it will survive regardless of who wins the election in november. but i do think that there is a difference here, and i think that there was a difference. if you listen to alito s wife and how she responds and her reaction system of the questions that she got are also extremely stark. and so just just goes to show how these justices are thinking and how that they are forming their opinions. and it is, it is quite different and it is jarring when you hear their responses. let s listen to a little bit of what martha alito also who was approached by the same activist again, here s a little bit of what she had to say you know what i want i want sacred heart of jesus flag because i had to look cross the lagoon at the pride flag for the next month. exactly and he s like, oh, please don t put several my heritage come after me away. it doesn t have to be away. debris don t worry about it okay. she also said that justice alito doesn t control her at one point. but you don t seem to admit their that he did ask her not to put up a flag in this case. definitely go we put the flag up let me look at this whole thing. i saw on twitter the person lauren windsor put up, that this is gonna be a big undercover storage tweeted out, tease that out. before it came out. and then when it came out like this, this is what this is. i mean, this was the same person that was the one reported by the intercept who sent the kind of democratic activists to charlottesville, dresses neo-nazi would tiki torches to kind of stand outside the glenn youngkin s yvette. but with the lincoln project. so i m not getting i m not surprised by this, but i will say that i think a lot of what molly said his right. it s also just his religious philosophy makes no bones that he s a devout christian now, i was at church over the weekend and a lot of those same themes. it s country but more about the world gold and sin and godliness. those same themes or what kinda prevalent. church, i m really not surprised. i mean, i think that the piece of it that i really i got caught on was where he seems to go on and say that there may not be a way to resolve these differences ever, which i suppose is part of what you re saying. i mean, it s it s again, i think we stepped back from the politics of it. i think the way the christians look at it is sin and whatever faith i m not putting it very eloquently. the priesthood better job in his homily over the weekend. but but no, i think that is more of the way that he was talking about it for me again, he s devout christian. i don t really see what the the big thing is, megan, but these people, i just think our supreme court justices sort of need to rise above this. and i agree with molly that like we ve all been in a situation where you just like nod and say, but he went further and then when his wife s comments, it just shows that like they re they re not viewing themselves as above and making laws for our country. it was his faith like it was not, it was not about politics. they re talking to say, it also she was goading him. she would want to introduce scholarliness into it. she was the one that he s just agreeing. yeah, i agree. like it s these ideas weren t germinated on their own. she was leading him. i don t agree with what she did. i think it s terrible and i think both sides do it and i think it s awful. i don t think we d be putting a lot more women pre haven t talked about project verisign s 09 and rightfully so i m fine, but the amount of media saturation i didn t read the new york times is covering this now it s ridiculous. who would never do this. it was james o keefe and practice, but that s not true. but i just think we owe nine we haven t done a sense so charade with acorn, that was the last time we actually my diary. i think we all project or testis sorry, because very, very different when there was a negative garrett ziegler who is sitting in court that clearly act when there was a new york times article on straight reporting, what was it ashley biden s journal. i don t remember it. like there was with this. i will be honest in this particular question, but i do think the big picture here. i mean, i think you guys are actually both an agreement what people should do is not correct this you know, i just i think molly to the big picture point this really underscores even farther just the significance of the moment that we are facing as a country, the role of the supreme court in our politics. it s been historically viewed as an institution that s supposed to be above all this i think those of us who cover this realize it s been political for awhile, but now the country is really starting to see that. all right, coming up next, donald trump meets with probation officers while his campaign asks potential vp candidates if they ever committed a crime. plus the dog days arriving early, millions of americans facing sweltering heat in this this is where i get back in my trunk and head make the southwest georgia. the congressional candidate who walked off the stage and went home in the middle of a debate hey, guys, i got spoken about got it right up do, we, have one to leave works all day? so i can keep working to take just one 12 hours of uninterrupted pain-related i ll leave you do you take it for and for fast topical pain relief, child leave x. this is a freemium hand 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the virtual interview and was described as polite, respectful, and accommodating to the probation officers. that s according to a new york city official familiar with the interview, trump even told the officers to be safe at the end of the session his approach might have something to do with the fact that his demeanor and cooperation could influence the judge s decision on sentencing de the hearing comes as his campaign moves forward with a more shall we say traditional process of selecting a vice presidential running mate? all of them have been asked to submit documents to be vetted you re not at that level yet? well, we ll look they argue they ve asked us for a number of things. i think that a number of people have been asked to submit this in your taxes or something i don t know everything but yeah, i mean, certainly like, have you committed a crime? i ve ever lied about this have you ever committed a crime? a matt gorman? apparently not. okay. for the vp i know what we laugh. i know we laugh. it does it does make sense why you d ask that. i mean, it does it does. i did the first of that of paul ryan when it was selecting his vp we re at the point now, where you re bringing in not just the candidate, but the family, the accountants, the lawyers, and you are asking we were just trying to get to the central question. number one, do we know everything about this person that we need to know? number one and number two if we don t, what is it that we don t know and trying to get that. so the candidate, no matter who it is, can evaluate and make a decision because let s face it this way, right? we know trump is indicted on four things, felt guilty on 153 others, right? in the limited space, we don t want a new one coming out all of a sudden that they can t price in that they don t have an awareness of. it does seem like an acknowledgment that committing crimes as bad, which the president has so far not seemed to want to cop to i don t think they have formally conceded that point but no, i mean, to matt s point, it s less about any particular dealbreaker than about not being surprised, right? that s what s running processes for it s just anything that s in there. the campaign wants to know in advance so they can get out ahead of it if that s the case or just again, just not to be surprised by something, it s one thing to say, oh, this came up in his first campaign and he had a good explanation for it, or the voters didn t seem to care. and so it s known part of someone s bio, it s another thing for it to be, you know, late october and all of a sudden you re finding out that someone was arrested for a felony 30 years ago, that they neglected to tell anybody about, and it becomes a big news cycle. i will just say that it also seems to underscore the difference between donald trump and the rest of the political universe where gravity still seems to apply even if it doesn t donald trump. all right, coming up next, hunter biden s fate in the 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courtroom. choices have consequences. and that s why we re here later. hunters defense attorney argued the prosecutors case was similar to a magician s trick, adding quote, there is nothing there. joining me now from wilmington, delaware is alex thompson, the national political reporter for it? axios, who has been covering this trial day in and day out. alex, wonderful to see you how just catch us up with what you saw in court yesterday during these closing arguments. and i want to dig into how the family in particular is playing into this because my understanding is the jurors were told not to be intimidated by the fact that it s the families the president of the united states yes. so yesterday you saw bolt very lengthy closing arguments, i believe abbe lowell hunter biden s lawyer when for about 87 minutes and then the prosecution got two shots at it and they probably got about the same about 87 minutes. and to your other points the prosecution said, if they have not proven that hunter biden was a crack addict than no one is a crack addict. and it got a little chip between the two sides. abbe lowell at one point said that the prosecution had been quote enormously cruel two naomi biden hunter biden s daughter, the president s granddaughter, and how they cross-examined tr the government came right back and said it was then who put her on the stand that put her in that position. and it was hunter biden who according to text messages tom had been erratic and texting in the middle of the night and had i think they ve put it as said, blowing her off and so it got very personal in terms of how the family yesterday was the most family that we have seen in this trial. you had aunts, uncles cousins, the cousins, spouses. it was at least a full thing and it was interesting that both sides, in their closing arguments made you made allusions to the family. now, abbe lowell hunters lawyer has been really trying to portray hunter as a family person and has been referencing the family as as part of that that he is just i think one of you, whereas the prostitution is basically saying what? you just alluded to, which is don t be intimidated. this is not these people are not evidenced. these people are not really part of the trial how would you describe kind of the the mood among the biden family members who attended from what? you could observe it, what did what did that feel like yeah. i think they you can see a little bounce in their step after abbe lowell s closing, having just a fulsome 87 minute defense from of hunter when i think a lot of the family feels he has just been hit day after day after day for the last several years and i think i even saw bowel biden, the president, sister give them a go, give abby go, get them. right? right afterward. but after at the very end i don t think the family likes being at felony trial for joe biden s son, and you could tell there were certainly moments ashley biden in particular, the president s daughter and hunter sister has you been very emotional at moments in this trial having to leave at some point, plate lots of tears. and you can tell it s been harder on some than on the others. one of the arguments that came up was about hallie biden one of the attorneys said quote, poor hallie biden knew had to be dragged through this period of her life. again, who understandably did not remember a lot of the details well she remembering what she saw that day or dozens of other days when she too was using if you notice, she could remember what the prosecutors asked her. the prosecutors are also gave her immunity, but not so much for any number of things so that that i guess coming from from abbe lowell well, it clearly they felt like they needed to defend other members of the family. two, how did that fit in this been a key part of hunter biden strategy from the very beginning, which is to really try to undermine the credibility of hallie biden, who s beau s widow, who is also his sister-in-law. and the reason is because her testimony he is, very very troubling if you re a hunter, biden, the fact is that she was the one that found the gun. she and when she testified that when she went into the truck, she found crack cocaine, paraphernalia, suggesting that he had been smoking very recently, that she found powder that day, which also suggested he d been using am was the one that he was texting during the period he had the gun in which he said that he was smoking crack and this goes to a larger sort of dynamic within both the defense and the prosecution, which you at the very end of the day beyond the facts that case, i think it will really come down to you. do you relate to hunter biden or do you resent hunter biden and the prosecutor? the hunters team at basically wants to make you think he s a family man that he was suffering from a disease that he s one of you in delaware home grown. whereas the defense is saying no, this is a bad guy. this is the guy that what the little details that he was trying hundred $51,000 in cash withdrawal and just three months that he was a millionaire, that he was yael educated, that he gave $800 to his 24-year-old girlfriend to buy clothes for his daughters. these little details that are meant to portray a different sort of person and that may end up being the difference maker with this jury all right. alex thompson for us this morning. alex. thank you very much for that. meghan hayes, can i ask you, you know, someone who s been in the biden family orbit? how this all mean as alex said, that they entire family has shown up for him at this trial. understandably, but it s gotta be weighing on the president who of course has not made an appearance at the courtroom. yeah. i mean, i don t think anybody hit this table. be surprised. a hunter is at the forefront of the presence minor, it adds, it s an extremely challenging situation. he s a dad first and foremost, i think he said that in his statement, but i do think that this is someone who is an addict. he is a recovering addict right now and i think that the family is concerned and i think that s showing up to be supportive of him. i think that s what families do is show up and support people when in their time of need. all right. let s turn now to the 2024 campaign trail where donald trump de, virtual mark remarks yesterday to the danbury institute it is a conservative christian group. they call abortion, quote, child sacrifice, and quote the greatest atrocity facing our generation today trump, who just two months ago said abortion should be left to the states, didn t explicitly mentioned abortion during his remarks. that s an admission that for the presumptive nominee of the republican party says a lot about the politics of this issue in a post-dobbs, america. instead, trump said this we are a seriously declining nations, seriously serious and so sad. i know that each of you is protecting those values every day and i hope we ll be defending them side-by-side for your next four years. these are going to be your years so matt gorman, i mean, he obviously is trying to tell them something that they want to hear, but to not mention abortion at a group like this. i mean, it just shows what a tough position any republican is in, in a world where the protections of roe means that, well, if you say life begins at conception, suddenly are threatening. everything including in vitro fertilization. note we look at it, i think abortion is probably the best issue for democrats and it makes the most sense for him to run on it. and i think it doesn t make sense also for trump to give more grist to anything and that they re going to use against them already in a campaign. and i think what this is, i m more and more convinced that this an election in the sanctuary to come down either the economy hovering above all, an immigration on the right, abortion and left competing as the single issue crawl over broken glass type issues for voters. and which one wins out last couple years exceed abortion went out, could happen again, immigration has been very salient, loved what happens, and i think that s gonna tell us its substrate election. well, and i think the debate that i m hearing among my republican sources about how they and their candidates should message the abortion issue is very similar to it. why here democrats talking about immigration? the question is, do you try to keep it off the agenda and not talk about it in the hopes that you can raise the salience of some other issue, right. so if you re a democrat to ignore immigration and just tried to talk about abortion where you feel like you have a better message there is a school of thought, i think in both of these camps that says no, you have to go at it. you have to say to voters, i understand why you think this is important and here is my position so that they re not left guessing. so republicans have been having this active debates since the fall of roe, saying we do have to have a message for voters about abortion. we do have to have something to say to them. otherwise, we re just going to get clobbered and i think you ve seen democrats on immigration, the same thing. a lot of candidates have tried to avoid the issue, but there is a new conventional wisdom on the democratic side that says if you do that you re just gonna get killed on this issue. that is important to so many voters. you do need to have some kind of positive message, even if it s not necessarily going to be popular because in both cases, the parties are on the wrong side of these respective issue really interesting way to think about it, okay the house rules committee meets today to consider holding attorney general merrick garland in contempt. we re going to talk about that with a member of the committee recovery can ralph norman of south carolina plus donald trump questioning whether taylor swift is a legit liberal the most anticipated moment the election and the stakes couldn 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guilt.com today all right. 46 minutes past the hour. here s your morning round up. this just in the plane carrying malawi s vice president, malawi s vice president, and nine other people has been found. everyone on board was killed the plane went missing monday after it failed to make a scheduled landing president biden set to addressing major gun violence prevention conference in dc today, nearly two years after signing the first federal gun safety legislation to be passed in decades there you have it. rudy giuliani is mug shot after he posted a $10,000 bond in his election interference case in arizona donald trump s former lawyer showing no remorse as he left court do you have any regrets about what you did in arizona after the election? oh, my goodness. no. why not? very, very proud. there was a substantial amount of vote for the one on here that was covered up probably one of the biggest conspiracies in american history when just say there was no evidence of any of the things that he just said there, giuliani pleaded not guilty in may to nine felony charges stemming from his alleged role in arizona s fake electors scheme the port of baltimore is open for business now as the shipping lane into the harb fully reopened last night for the first time since the francis scott key bridge was hit by a cargo ship and collapsed in march from all those folks all right. let s turn now to capitol hill where the house rules committee will meet today to decide whether to advance contempt charges against attorney general merrick garland over his refusal to provide lawmakers the audio of president biden s interview with special counsel robert hur after her found the biden mishandled classified documents but would likely present to a jury as a quote, sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory and quote, the gop led push comes just a week after garland testified before congress, where he said this i will not be intimidated. and the justice department will not be intimidated and training. now, it s south carolina republican congressman ralph norman. he sits on the house rules committee a powerful one in the house. congressman. good morning. thank you for being here. my pleasure bladder be ready. so the attorney general, merrick garland has a new washington post opinion piece that s out this morning and he writes in that piece quote, disagreements about our politics are good for our democracy. they are normal. but using conspiracy theories, falsehoods, violence, and threats of violence to effect political outcomes is not normal. the short-term political benefits of those tactics will never make up for the long-term cost to our country continued unfounded attacks against the justice department s employees are dangerous for people safety, they are dangerous for our democracy. and they must stop. what do you have to say to his argument there attorney general garland is let s just say it s laughable. what he s taking party and he s not above the law. he says he s not going to be intimidated it s very simple. why don t think he s arguing that he s above you re saying he s not above the law in the context of the contempt charges around that that you are considering what what he s not above the law in is when congress has every right, an article one the whole committees that investigates the doj in any other agency. and what we asked for is the sense that president biden had an interview with robert hur asking for the audio tapes very, very simple. the audio tapes and he won t. they initially started back in february of this february 5th and we asked for the audio tapes which do exist and on february 16, the doj under the guidance of merrick garland said they weren t going to meet the timeline. they extended the timeline. so and then finally they came back and said there s no justifiable reason why you need the audio tapes that the biden has already waived executive privilege by printing the the interview so they re just want to tape to see if they match up with what s being reported. they redacted several parts of it. so but and it s saying he s not above the law. he s going to be in contempt. we will pass it, i think in the rules and will hold him accountable like he s doing every every other person has got an arb aside, their name and you re going to learn from the tapes that you can t learn from the transcripts the tapes were backup, will either justify what has been the the transcript say or they won t. do you think actually tampered with a the transcripts? is that what you re saying? we have no idea until we get them. they haven t. that s what attorney general garland refuses to turn over is very simple. turn turn the tape over, and so we can see if it matches with the transcripts either does or does it? and do you think that you have in the full house to hold the garland in contempt oh, i have no idea. we ll see what the evidence we will have testimony today that are probably last six to eight hours. you have a democratic witness, you have republican witness. james calmer well, it may be jim jordan, but one of the two will present what they re finding is, but it s very simple. turn over the tapes that will either validity the transcripts or they won t and let us see it congressman, i want to talk politics with you for a little while. your state, of course, has famously sharp-elbowed to put it politely, i would say politics, nancy mace congresswoman, who voted to oust kevin mccarthy facing a primary challenge today. could you underscore clarify for me who it is you re supporting in this primary. and do you think that mayes is going to hang on? i hadn t come out on either side. i know both. and i serve with nancy, catherine templeton was headed de heck under nikki haley who i like i think nancy will win this race, but i hadn t come out publicly for either one of them. i get involved in a lot of races but on this particular one, i decided just to let the low country decide who they want and net nancy s got a track record and catherine templeton has a record of so why once you endorse your college, you re not endorsing nancy mace. i mean, that s pretty normal worthy as typically y all incumbents usually stick together well, i didn t come out against are either. i just said let the voters decide and the low countries has a lot of different issues that they re passionate about. and i let them decide it and i m from the upstate and i did get involved. am involved with the timmons morgan rice. i came out against william terman s and but on the nancy may just decide to stay out of that sir, before i let you go we ve heard president former president trump. obviously, he has campaigned. we ve heard him say earlier in the show that america is a declining nation this is something that he talks about all the time. the governor of pennsylvania, which is a key swing state. he s a democrat but he had a different message about what he thinks republican should be saying about america. i want you to listen to what governorship hero said, and then i want to get your reaction on either side. watch all they hear from donald trump is a whole bunch of whining about this country. so i got a message to donald trump and all his negativity in his whining stops barking. america. this is the greatest country on earth, and it s time that we all start acting like it i m going to say, sir i m a patriotic american. do you does he have a point president trump as does the american people see what s happening to america. he is exactly right? look at what s happening in this country. talk to the average voter out there who is very upset with inflation. they re very upset with the 13 to 15 million illegals coming into this kind. would you still the greatest country on earth as many politicians often have it once was the greatest country on earth. we in the rapid decline, it s not anymore three-and-a-half years of this biden administration. pardon me. it s not anymore in which country would you say is greater than the united states of america? well, unless we get our financials in order, unless we stopped spin in, printing money, will we cannot continue what we have been in the past, which is a shining city on a hill, and the director result of the liberal policies that this administration has continues to put, put the american people through immigration, is leading the pack on. this is he s breaking the constitution. he s destroying the values in this country. so i think the american people show that at the pose all right, i sold them have the name of another country that s greater than the united states of america. congressman ralph north on norman, excuse me, ralph norman, thank you so much, sir, for being here. i really appreciate your time. my pleasure. all right, let s turn now to this i m still feature when i walk in the room why wouldn t we talk about taylor swift? and we can talk about taylor swift. she apparently has a new admirer in donald trump. in an interview for a forthcoming book about the former president trump raved about the pop star s looks, telling the writer quote, i think she s beautiful, very beautiful. i find it very beautiful. i think she s liberal. she probably doesn t like trump. i hear she s very talented. i think she s very beautiful actually unusually beautiful trump, however, clearly seemed unable to forget his bad blood with swift over her 2020 endorsement of joe biden and throwing into question her political beliefs that she is liberal or is that just an act he asked during the interview, she s legitimately he liberal, it s not an act. it surprises me that a country star can be successful being liberal meghan. i mean, i think it s creepy the way he continues to talk about how pretty women are that are significantly younger in age, very much younger. but that being said, i think that he he doesn t want to upset the swifties. i think we all know what happens when that when we awake a giant of the swifties. but i think it s very big. part of why we re talking about her. madame mean, disagree with me if you want to but she is actually probably the one celebrity. i think that actually has the power to move inefficient number of probably right? yeah, i think it s a matter of now whether she would ever want to get involved, i think in 2020, 2016, were i think we talked to this couple weeks ago, different time for celebrities inject themselves some politics become political actors very different now, outtake donald trump taylor swift, like it s like the page clicks like big bang, massive forces together for this this explosion. i hope for it. but yeah, i don t think she needs it out really good about i don t think he needs to go out and like i support you biden. she was already did that and then also in her documentary, if she s already said where she stands on a lot of issues and like wind to our family and said, i mean, so i don t think anyone s questioning where she stands politically here, but yeah. so i mean, i think he gets kind of i don t think she needs out really get involved, but i think it like donald trump as like a celebrity, celebrity pundit, right? like a celebrity handicap or he is really encapsulating so where she stands in like the firmament of sort of pop culture, right? yeah. he clearly has spent more time looking at her than listening to her. she hasn t been a country star for a long time as my swift the daughter could certainly the idea that like people don t necessarily see her as a political figure. and that s why a potential endorsement for her is so powerful, right? because to her legions of fans who just love her no matter what, the things that she says are, can resonate outside that political sphere. and that s why i think she does have the power to potentially move votes is even though she does have this history of endorsed pressing liberal politicians and taking liberal positions, she is not, i think pigeonholed as just sort of hollywood liberal, liberal celebrity. and so she s able to speak in an authentic way to her following it hearkens back to a funny time where donald trump was on twitter like talking about robert patents and kristen stewart member that ten years ago, remember this is very much like the page six, new york celebrity gossip world he had spent 30 years in. this is almost in a way like a very pure version of donald trump, like gossiping about celebrities. yeah, no it s, it s, it s it s donald trump, maggie haberman has been cut yeah. all right. i will leave you with this oh like she s still got it. courtney cox, letting the world know. she s still has the moves that she showed off in bruce springsteen s video for dancing in the dark, the friends star joining a social media trend where kids ask their parents to show them how they danced in the 1980s, cox famously appeared in springsteen s 1984 and music video. jumping on stage to boogie with the boss molly ball has your daughter made you do this yet no could you better or worse than a by way waveshape, let s put courtney back first quarter me and her dancing. there yep, there she is. i mean, honestly that i think i could do that might be the limit of my abilities, but that i could do i mean i don t know because i wouldn t want to do it in public, but i m not do not checked doing matt either. all right thanks, guys. every much. appreciate your time today. thanks for all to all of you for joining us. i m