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showtime. mark this is a test of ron desantis leadership. how should he handle this? because the actual, whole country is watching what he is doing in his home state. >> exactly, winston churchill and ron emanuel said don't let crisis go to waste. ron desantis is taking advantage of that. this is why governors had a leg up in electoral politics, and campaigns. and they have big things to deal with. and you can see them deal with really big problems. we have two very significant crisis in florida with a shooting, and that shull weather disaster. this is an opportunity for desantis to put the campaign on hold. which is great because what he really wants to do is show leadership, and executive ability. which is what people want to see any president. so this is much better than being on the campaign trail. this is a so big it handled it well. and the jury is out on that. >> i think that's the important
crisis go to waste. ron desantis is taking advantage of that. this is why governors had a leg up in electoral politics, and campaigns. and they have big things to deal with. and you can see them deal with really big problems. we have two very significant crisis in florida with a shooting, and that shull weather disaster. this is an opportunity for desantis to put the campaign on hold. which is great because what he really wants to do is show leadership, and executive ability. which is what people want to see any president. so this is much better than being on the campaign trail. this is a so big it handled it well. and the jury is out on that. >> i think that's the important part. assuming he handles it well. it's an opportunity to step up. but also a chance to with.
here's the thing, anderson. why is he gaining so much? because nobody that is running for president, with the exception of chris christie, asa hutchinson, and will hurd, are speaking out and saying that what donald trump did was wrong. if you're a republican voter, and all these people who you trust, even if you're gonna vote for somebody else, all these people running for president are telling you, that this is a hit job by the doj, you're gonna believe this is a hit job, because the people that you trust are telling you that. and then you're gonna rally behind the guy that's getting this hit job against him from the doj. it's really simple. these people running for president that are too cowardly to speak out, i, mean like i said this a few times now, just drop out and endorsed donald trump then. maybe you'll get a cabinet position, you're obviously running for, or if you truly want to be president of the united states, show leadership. show sacrifice. tell people the truth. i can expect no differ then what we're seeing in the polls if the people that folks trust are telling them this is a hijab. >> adam kinzinger, harry enten, thanks very much. just ahead, we're gonna go back to the legal implications of the georgia indictment. we'll focus on one specific charge that, ironically, propelled on the 19 defendants, rudy giuliani to fame. as a prosecutor back in the 19 80s. details ahead.
is going to move their numbers one way or the other. i just don't, these candidates have to make their own news. they have to show something about who they are, in terms of leadership, and if it's only based on donald trump, again, they're giving trump all the airtime. they're only quitting themselves, based on his image and his likeness, and how they compared to that. trump loves that. you're playing right into his hand if you think every candidate really be out there taking aside on trump or not. they have to be themselves. show leadership without him. >> i don't think it's about taking a side on trump. it's a question of taking aside on what he's saying is true or false. before you go, governor, just a final question, we were getting at this earlier, four indictments in, if trump is the nominee, will you vote for him? >> again, i don't think he's gonna be the nominee, and that's a question for a year from now with 100 other variables will come to play. i would say, whether i vote for him or another person vote for him, i'm not a candidate. that doesn't really matter, if i may, what matters is what
ton or will hurd, to directly criticize their biggest challenger? >> i think they'll get there. i know a lot of these candidates are trying to lay groundwork, laying their policy, who they are and what they're about. but to your point, they've got to start swinging, whether it starts with a light zinger, or you go chris christie full board and lay out trump's failed agenda and lack of agenda for the future of this party. one way or the other they're going to have to get there. the idea you're going to cater to a trump voter by not attacking the former president makes no sense because here's a memo for you. it's a trump voter. they're voting for the former president. you're not going to win them over. so, they've got to stand on their own, show leadership, show you have the courage to push back, call it like you see it, call the balls and strikes like you see them. some of them are a little hesitant and taking bad political advice. this is a six-month roller coaster. it really starts tonight. it's going to end up in the iowa
bring charisma and personality, show leadership at a different level. they've got to start kind of flairing out if you will and getting people excited about what might be possible as opposed to just another candidate that isn't donald trump. so i think that's the opportunity they have here, get people excited. they're going to be on a stage, not on a debate stage, per se, but on a stage and it's the first time we'll see them all back to back. it's pretty exciting. >> you've also said, though, you want candidates who are, quote, willing to swing and take the punch at beating trump. we've seen one do that, that's chris christie. does that mean he's got your endorsement coming? >> no, look, i love chris, by the way, i think they're all -- i think a lot of them are probably waiting for the debate stage. i really do. will they be as hard as governor christie has been? governor christie has been full force. i love the show. i think he's doing a great job. all of them should be there. they've got to start separating themselves without a doubt. and, look, look what's happening to donald trump's numbers right here in new hampshire.
night telling us, reminding us what the guidance and rules well. he was, as the committee said, the most prominent public promoter of those rules. so, it is simply not credible forjohnson to repeatedly claim that they were complied with, when the evidence is so damningly clear that they were not, and that he must have known stopped because, he was someone announcing them. this is not just a reasonable person test, it is seen who do you think you are kidding test. he fails both. mr speaker, the final area i want to cover in my speech is a current prime minister's reaction to this report, and where it leaves standards in parliament and public life and generally, as it is painfully clear he is not strong enough to turn the page on his predecessor. when stories or scandals like this one cut through with the public, it offers a bonus to press the reset button, show leadership, get to grips with an issue, tackle it head—on. this parameter is simply too weak to do
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been going on between borisjohnson and rishi sunak, about borisjohnson �*s honours list. grant shapps was clear that number ten had no involvement in removing any names from that list, but there are suggestions that number ten did not agree with giving peerages to some of the close allies of boris johnson. nadine dorries, for example. so a lot of intrigue going on here. for labour, they see this as another example of what they are calling tory chaos. keir starmer has written this morning that rishi sunak has failed to show leadership, and end the infighting in the conservative party. the shadow foreign secretary was also on this morning. foreign secretary was also on this morninu. ~ . ., foreign secretary was also on this mornin-.~ . . ,, foreign secretary was also on this mornin.. . ., .,, ., ,, ., morning. what has happened over the last 48 hours — morning. what has happened over the last 48 hours is _ morning. what has happened over the last 48 hours is unprecedented. - morning. what has happened over the last 48 hours is unprecedented. we i last 48 hours is unprecedented. we have a _ last 48 hours is unprecedented. we have a former pro minister crafting a letter, _ have a former pro minister crafting a letter, undermining the sitting pro minister, and we have got three by—elections brought about not in
because one has the power to -- almost. yeah. and so if you don't send a signal, listen, the game is really between you, and the speaker who has got to bring all of these republicans onboard, which is very fix ctitious amou, you're not understanding the political dynamic. this letter was about understanding, mr. president, show leadership. understand the political dynamic, not as you wish it to be, but as it is, and let's make something happen. >> do you worry perhaps mccarthy's position, the position of those house republicans is out of step with the position of the majority of the american people. phil and i were talking earlier about the new poll over the weekend, it shows 58%, "washington post," 58% of americans say the debt limit and federal spending should be handled as separate issues, and that's what the white house is saying. >> well, one, it's the house we have. but secondly, i think if you rephrase that, if you said, american people, every month that we continue a student loan pause, that adds $5 billion to his nation's debt and moves the