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25. rick perry's way back at 15. next, a big state, florida. it's cain leading again, another arg poll with 34% for cain. romney's down at 28. gingrich, a distant third. cain in both those races. and finally, a general election matchup in new jersey. a new quinnipiac poll has president obama ahead of mitt romney, 47/41. that's a healthy result for him in a state, of course, he has to win. we'll be right back. sodium pent that'll. [ male announcer ] whether over a cup of maxwell house... or a can of paint... you came together to vote, to share... to volunteer. and now, thanks to you, 10 communities have more to smile about. what's next? tell us on facebook.

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american rather than african-american. then went on to contrast his upbringing with that of president obama. cain is reported to have said, "most of the ancestors that i can trace were born here in the united states of america. barack obama's more of an international. look, he was raised in kenya. his mother was white from kansas and her family had an influence on him, it's true, but his dad was kenyan." goldberg went on to correct cain in his interview by telling him that obama spent four years of his youth abroad in indonesia, never in kenya. why, sir, is it your estimate -- now, this is psychobabble, to some extent, but why on earth would herman cain, a man of obvious educational background, say that the president grew up in kenya, when everyone on earth now knows that he was born in the united states, lived here all his life, hardly ever met his father from kenya, has no real actual mental roots in kenya, and certainly no experience there? >> well, unfortunately, the

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this guy as seceded all of them. who will secede him, who hasn't already fizzled? answer? >> i would say that the best bet would be a perry comeback, and then say, a newt gingrich rise. >> a perry comeback? >> yes. he has the money, he'll have the consultants, and -- >> did you watch him in the debate? >> oh, i think he's awful. >> "the washington post" debate, he was a groundhog. >> he can't stay awake. this man cannot stay awake past 8:00 in the evening. >> let's put perry on tv right now with herman cain. who wins the the debate? one on one? >> well, that's a really good question, because neither one of them have any policies to talk about. i mean, cain is certainly more personable and he's been a better debater, but do you think -- i'll ask you this. can he say 9-9-9 from here until election day and nothing else? >> we'll go in now, we'll go into the weeds with you, where you really want to go. timothy egan of "the new york times" describes cain's economic plan like this, "in essence cain

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things that are happening to president barack obama. and i'm not talking about with regard to legitimate complaints against his policies. i'm talking about some of the things that we've seen here in washington with mustaches, hitler mustaches and members of congress calling him names and so forth. it's unfortunate that we have moved further but made tremendous progress the fact we're going to have this unveiling of the memorial is a statement about where we are as a country. >> nia, what do you think of all this as a reporter? the race of the country as a young person. >> i think if we could focus a little bit on herman cain, i think herman cain is on the one hand saying that we're in a post race country, but at the same time he seems to play the race card when it comes to talking about african-americans, talking about the ways in which they vote for democrats. it's not something that he would, for instance, say about white evangelicals who vote in overwhelming numbers for bush,

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timothy egan of "the new york times" describes cain's economic plan, which david is talking about, like this -- in essence, cain is proposing the largest shift in tax burden from the wealthy to the poor" -- sounds like the republican party to me. he apparently would scrap the two great government programs fragile middle class, social security and medicare,ecause he wants to eliminate the payroll taxes that now pay for those -- so here you have a guy whose impulse is to shift wealth to wealthy people, basically. whose impulse is to get rid of great society programs. i know i'm being a bit of a cartoon here, but these are the impulses of the party we're talking about. >> and he also wants to tax beer. i mean, the thing is, most republicans don't get out there and say, hey, if you're making more than -- making less than $50,000 a year, we're going to tax you more. they know, they try to cut the edges a different way. but this guy's plan is such a bald effort to redistribute wealth from the top -- from the

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>> that was herman cain last night talking about the potential historic moment for two african-americans, one an incumbent president, the other the current front-runner in the republican presidential field facing off. cain's comments came right before the dedication this weekend of the martin luther king national memorial here in washington. is cain right? is this country beyond color? congressman emanuel cleaver is the chairman of the congressional black caucus. sir, thank you for joining us. and nia-malika henderson is with "the washington post." thank you, nia, for joining us tonight. this question of these two guys running, i want to show you something from herman cain, congressman, and have your reaction to it. he's talking about some things about the president, which i find interesting. in an interview with bloomberg view, columnist jeffrey goldbele american rather than african-american. then went on to contrast his upbringing with that of president obama. cain is reported to have said,

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back to "hardball." now to the sideshow. first up, when sarah palin first grabbed some attention for calling gop candidate herman cain the flavor of the week, the initial speculation was that the candidate would take offense to the comment. well, since then cain has turned the tables and dubbed himself the black walnut after what he calls his own haagen-dazs flavor of choice. well, if you haven't seen that option in the grocery aisle lately, there's a reason. according to the haagen-dazs customer service line, "we don't sell black walnut. the sales nationally did not meet our expectations,

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himself. he's doing incredibly well, and if this was a white guy doing this and doing exactly what he was doing, you'd be saying, of course he's the front-runner. >> oh, hey, no, no, no. >> you don't trust that party. i'm not saying you have a racial problem, you think the republicans do. >> no, i don't think they're voting for him because he's black. >> no, you think they won't in the end because he's black. >> though, not in the end because there's not much there. >> i think you deep down believe that there's a race problem in the republican party. >> well, i think they do, but -- >> that's why -- >> no, i think they love black conservatives -- >> we're arguing like children here. we're looking through the window at the republican party. let's listen here. >> six weeks ago, there was some pundits who was siaying that i should just drop out. well, they don't know herman cain. how do i feel? i am feeling great. i'm feeling great not only because of the surge, but i'm feeling great because a lot of people are taking a second look and they're saying, maybe this long shot is not such a long

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unfortunately. it did not behoove us to continue with the product." well, there's a bad sign. a bad metaphor, if you want. apparently cain was not aware that his flavor of choice turned out not to be everybody else's. let's hear his thoughts on the matter. >> well, i was very disappointed to find out that it's a limited edition and they don't make haagen-dazs the way they used to, so i'm heartbroken over that. i now have my people calling haagen-dazs and finding out why they don't make haagen-dazs ice cream, when thar going to bring it back, because it's always been my all-time favorite. >> i don't know how a flavor can be your all-time favorite when you can't even buy it. up next, allen west of florida attracted attention back in july for his nasty comments on fellow florida representative debbie wasserman schultz, who he called, quote, the most vial, unprofessional, and despicable member of the u.s. house of representatives. he's on the attack again, this time against president obama. here's part of an e-mail he sent to supporters. "i truly believe president barack obama does not comprehend american exceptionalism. he does not fathomt birth does not determine the station of your outcome. america is not about class or caste, it is about rewarding

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