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[theme music] welcome to violent earth. i m liev schreiber. 2023 set an all time record for weather and climate related disasters in the us. 28 events with losses over $1 billion. wildfires, hurricanes, and floods are more frequent than ever. the earth is changing. tonight, we delve into one of the most powerful natural hazards in the world, tornadoes. terrifying vortexes unleashed from thunderstorms that can cause unimaginable destruction. few examples of their power are more definitive than the 2011 twister that hit joplin, missouri. categorized as an ef5, the highest level possible, with maximum winds over 200 miles per hour, the tornado cut right through the center of the city. storm chaser: oh my gosh. oh my gosh. jim riek: late may is the bull s eye in the midwest for tornadoes. joplin was under a risk of a tornado, but not a great risk. storm chaser: that is a tornado, people. there was a complex of storms that came toward the city. oh my gosh. the tornado formed just outside of the joplin city limits. storm chaser: listen to it! jim riek: and then it just started racing into joplin. [indistinct shouting] all the alarms are going off on my computer, and here it comes. storm chaser: there! storm chaser: i see it. i see it. just straight through the heart of joplin, missouri. storm chaser: oh gosh, that is a monster tornado. i couldn t really see anything because it was obscured by rain. jim riek: it was rain rain. i think that s why so many people died. they did not realize that what they were seeing was the tornado. in this case, an ef5 tornado that is catastrophic. and by the time they did, it s too late. jeff piotrowski: as the tornado went by, everything was gone. it was like a bulldozer, and it leveled everything in its path. kat piotrowski: i just couldn t believe what i was seeing, the millions and millions of pieces of debris. jim riek: the tornado was on the ground for 32 minutes. storm chaser: the sirens are going. jim riek: it hits a convenience store on east 20th street. they had locked it just so the door wouldn t fling open. jim riek: listen to the audio. [screaming, rain pounding] jeff piotrowski: as the tornado entered the center part of the city, it hit the high school, and that s where the max damage occurred. jim riek: that surveillance video from the high school is no more than a hundred yards from amber munson s house. donna kerry: in 2011, amber was 40 years old. amber has always been amber, just always generous and kind and hospitable and just fun to be around. amber was home that afternoon. she wasn t aware that the tornado was coming. she didn t have her tv on and no indicators that it was gonna be that severe. i had spoken to her. she said, oh, it s just turned really dark here. and then she said, um, now the sirens are going off. and that s when i said, you know, go take the quilt off the top of your bed and get in your bathtub. i said, and then call me back. very few houses in joplin, particularly in the path of what turned out to be this tornado, had basements. so the best place to go is either a closet or in your bathtub. harold brooks: you wanna get as low as you can and put as many walls between you and the tornado as possible. storm chaser: oh gosh. i was concerned when she said the sirens were going off. i wouldn t even have imagined the magnitude of what was gonna come. jim riek: amber munson, probably 15 seconds before the tornado hit, realized just how bad it was going to be. and bang. the tornado hit. for tornadoes to form, you have to have a certain set of ingredients. first of all, you have to have moisture available for thunderstorms to develop. you have to have a source of lift or a trigger for those thunderstorms to get going. you have to have unstable air, which is temperatures that get colder with height and that allows the thunderstorm to rise and develop vertically. the most important ingredient is you have to have wind shear, which is changing of wind direction with height and also changing wind speeds with height. there s all sorts of different shapes tornadoes can take. we have a stovepipe, which is kind of like a straight up and down type tornado. we have obviously a cone. that makes sense. it s a cone shape. another one is the wedge, and that s usually the most intense. different tornadoes have different smells. when a tornado is going through a densely wooded area, you can smell the fresh cut wood, the fresh cut pine, whatever the tree is. paul markowski: the typical widths are anywhere from probably 25 to 50 yards across on the low end to, on the high end, a mile wide. tim marshall: the largest one i ve ever seen was the el reno, oklahoma tornado, and that was over two miles wide. kim klockow mcclain: the joplin tornado became a mile wide wedge right on the edge of town. kat piotrowski: the tornado was massive. it was chewing up everything in its path. there was no mercy at all. er: breaking news here at cnn. joplin, missouri, suffering the devastation right now of a very powerful tornado. jim riek: amber lived in what i would call a very middle class area of joplin. jeff piotrowski: this beautiful, quaint subdivision, and now it s level. kat piotrowski: it was just total devastation. our phone rang, and it was her, and she was screaming, mother, my house is on top of me. that s when i said, amber, that s not funny, because we would always kid back and forth. and she said, no, mom, my house is on top of me. and then her phone went dead. so there s a lot of myths that have been passed down through the years. reporter: doors and windows on the north and east sides were open. trent okerson: whenever i was growing up, i heard you ve got to open up the windows to equalize the air pressure. well, pressure is not what will cause damage to a home. it s wind getting up under the roof, blowing the roof off. another big misconception is if you re out in a vehicle, that an overpass is a great place to take shelter. that is not a good place to go. scientists have realized that being in that overpass creates a bit of a wind tunnel effect, that the wind is blowing through a smaller area so it can actually accelerate the wind speeds. so you re putting yourself in greater danger. kim klockow mcclain: there s a really popular misconception that mobile homes are like tornado attractors, and what s behind that is undoubtedly that people hear about mobile homes getting hit more because that s where people die. harold brooks: roughly half of the deaths in tornadoes occur in mobile and manufactured homes. they re much more vulnerable to a tornado and tend to turn into debris quicker. there are myths that tornadoes can t cross bodies of water. oh, tornadoes can t go through cities. jeff piotrowski: but there are no rules when it comes to tornadoes. they go where they wanna go. harold brooks: the deadliest tornado in us history is march 18, 1925, the tri-state tornado that went across southeastern missouri, southern illinois into southwestern indiana, and it killed 695 people over about a two and a half hour long period. generally, after the tri-state tornado, we see, like, a 10-fold decrease in the fatality rate from tornadoes as compared to 1925. we think there are a lot of things that could be going on behind that. there was the emergence of radio and people downstream could hear about it immediately. radar has had something to do with this, increases in our understanding of storms, and now the ability to push warnings to people on their cell phones. harold brooks: but the may 22, 2011 tornado at joplin, missouri, was the deadliest tornado in decades in the united states. being the seventh deadliest in us history. jim riek: on that day, it didn t matter what type of forecasting skills you had, what technology. the tornado won. [dramatic music] jeff piotrowski: everything basically was a three foot, four foot pile of debris everywhere as far as the eye could see. just debris everywhere. there s really nothing standing. donna kerry: in her immediate neighborhood, there were 16 people that perished. jim riek: jeff piotrowski sees a lady who is hysterical, has no idea what has happened to her. and that s amber munson. you could hear amber before you saw her, and that s what i remember more than anything is hearing her cries out. amber munson: can i use your phone? jeff piotrowski: what? kat piotrowski: and coming towards us. jeff piotrowski: yeah, all the phones are jammed. kat piotrowski: jeff jumped out of the car immediately and raced towards her. i m ok. i m ok. jeff piotrowski: come here. come here. hello? hello? how did she survive? amber munson: once the tornado sirens went off and the lights started flickering, i grabbed a pillow and a blanket and my phone and i jumped into the bathtub. i decided to roll over on my right side and i kind of got into a fetal position and covered myself up. but as the pressure started coming, the bath started bouncing. so it was very minor at first, not realizing that you re gonna get sucked out of your house. after the tornado hit, i remember hearing the glass shatter, but i don t remember flying in the tornado. amber munson went flying, ended up in someone else s yard. amber munson: when i woke up, i just remember being upside down, buried within the rubble. i knew i was alive, but i still questioned whether or not i was gonna survive because of the stuff that was falling on me. i think just wanting to survive kicked in for her. i kind of wiggled myself out so that i could get up, and that s when i got out of the hole. i had twisted my knee and i had a puncture wound in my back. but she s alive. it was a miracle. amber munson: the joplin tornado, having lived through it, made me realize that people don t take them serious enough. you see people that go stand on the front porch wanting to capture these things, not realizing how risky they really can be. storm chaser: oh, we got lightning. her uncle s unhappy. i m sensing an underlying issue. it s t-mobile. it started when we tried to get him under a new plan. but they they unexpectedly unraveled their “price lock” guarantee. which has made him, a bit. unruly. you called yourself the “un-carrier”. you sing about “price lock” on those commercials. “the price lock, the price lock.” so, if you could change the price, change the name! it s not a lock, i know a lock. so how can we undo the damage? we could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. their connection is unreal. and we could all un-experience this whole session. okay, that s uncalled for. trent okerson: storm chasing has gotten extremely popular over the past couple of decades. storm chaser: get the best footage. harold brooks: people do it, in large part, for the thrill and for the excitement of seeing the event. storm chaser: tornado number one. tornado number two. the original tornado is still on the ground. tim marshall: once you get out there and you see a storm in the open plains and the amazing structure that it has, it s mesmerizing, and it can become even addicting. storm chaser: my goodness. that is a thing of beauty and violence. max olson: there s a side to it that s almost like a hunter, because you re trying to narrow down where in the country this relatively rare phenomenon is gonna take place. storm chaser: come on. tim marshall: now there are thousands of people who do this. there s even tour groups nowadays, and you can get in a van and go with a group of fellow enthusiasts and drive out onto the plains and see the majestic skies. allison chinchar: in the united states, we average more than 1,200 tornadoes per year. that is number one in the world by a long shot. the second closest is canada, which only gets 100 per year. you could actually add canada, australia, and all european countries combined, and we still see more than they do. tornadoes are most common in the midwest. max olson: we also have another area that s really prone to tornadoes in our southeastern states. harold brooks: the tornado season depends on where you are in the country. in the plains, tornado season is typically over a relatively short period of time in the springtime. in the southeastern united states, tornadoes are more likely to occur at any time of the year. tornadoes actually can and do strike all over the country. tim marshall: tornadoes have been known to be in every state of the us. they have been in the highest of mountains, beaches, and offshore. harold brooks: over the last 50 years, what we ve seen has been an increase in the number of tornadoes in what we think of as the mid-south. it looks like it s associated with physical changes in the atmosphere, but we don t have a real underlying reason of why that s occurred. reporter: a rare sight in the skies over japan. a powerful twister ripping across the eastern part of the nation. tornadoes occur worldwide. jeff piotrowski: europe has tornadoes. south america has tornadoes. australia, japan. trent okerson: but the united states has a unique combination of geographical features that can lend itself to a lot of tornadoes. the gulf of mexico, that provides the very warm, humid air. then you also get cooler, drier air that s either coming down from canada or off the rockies. there s really no other place in the world that has the exact combination of ingredients like we do here in the united states. storm chaser: zoom in. storm chasing has definitely evolved into this kind of social media era. storm chaser: where are we? northeast nebraska? max olson: and people wanna be seen. they wanna be, you know, the chaser that everybody thinks of, doing the live streams, posts in front of a tornado and whatnot. trent okerson: storm chasing is a double edged sword. it s very valuable when it comes to learning more about the science behind storms, but it can also be dangerous if you re not 100% sure of what you re doing. the biggest danger of storm chasing has always been the driving. storm chaser: let s go back. we re going back. we re going back. you tend to judge where the tornado is going, but that doesn t always happen. there are so many people who chase now on some storms that traffic is actually a serious problem. when i m chasing out in the plains, i m apt to see dozens of other chasers. when i began storm chasing, there were no other chasers. tim marshall: david hoadley, whether he likes it or not, is the father of modern day storm chasing. max olson: david hoadley is the first person to truly go out and seek tornadoes, driving long distances, attempting to come up with some sort of formula to see tornadoes. he holds the record for the longest consecutive years of storm chasing. i ve been storm chasing 66 years, and i ve seen 265 tornadoes. i saw my first tornado in 1958. i think this is one of the things that appealed to me was the element of, really, mystery. what causes these storms? there was so much that was unknown. 2023, i saw david hoadley out chasing. the man s 85 years old. he s been doing it for most of his life, and he s still out there doing it every single year. david hoadley: it s not like spelunking or surfboarding. you can return to the ocean. you can climb the mountains again and again and again. but that one tornado, that one storm, once it s gone, it s out. it s history. to have a picture of it, have a video or anything else of it, is to say that i ve captured something that will never happen again. tornadoes are most common 4:00 to 8:00 pm. because that s when the atmosphere is warmest, you get the sunshine, heats things up, creates the most instability. that instability is fuel for thunderstorms. mason lillard: may 22, normal sunday. we went fishing for a little bit and we were getting ready to take my cousin lage home. i was 10 and lage was 14, and my grandpa was like, hey, i need some wiring for my garage at home depot. i would say probably around 5:00, 5:15-ish, the sky s starting to get a little kind of weird looking. my grandpa went inside of home depot and my cousin, my grandma, and myself were all sitting in the truck. we heard the sirens go off, but we just ignored them like normal. and then all of a sudden it went from kind of dark to, like, midnight black, almost. we were trying to open up the doors of the truck and the winds were just going too fast. and then my cousin, he was like, whoa, the truck s tearing up. and then at that moment, the truck flipped on its side and got sucked into the vortex. we could kind of hear everything, like the hail hitting the truck and stuff. it felt terrifying to be in that tornado. you see, like, the wizard of oz, and it s almost like that. but in real life, it s loud and you don t know what s going on. lage was sucked out of the truck. i felt like i was slipping out of the truck. i was holding on to my grandma s hand, and then i felt the truck land, like, the tires bounce. and i was like, ok. i m alive, at least. all i felt was, like, my ribs were broken. i realized that something was actually in me. most people are killed in tornadoes by flying debris. storm chaser: that s the most violent motion. kim klockow mcclain: tornadoes consist of anything the tornado brings into the air. so often a lot of dust and dirt and plants, branches. and then if it s a more violent tornado, that can include debris like planks of wood, shards of glass. mason lillard: i hear my grandma. lage, lage. and i was like, mama, i hear him. he was outside of the truck. it wasn t like a, i m here, or i m ok. it was moaning. storm chaser: oh, no. there are the lines. oh my god. oh my god. look at that. harold brooks: one of the things about a tornado is that it s producing a lot of small pieces of debris that are flying at, you know, 150 miles an hour. and even ordinary objects, dinner plates, two by fours, become really, really deadly at those kinds of high speeds. jim riek: i knew after joplin how destructive a tornado could be. it was moving so slowly that it was like a blender. everything on the ground was getting totally mixed together. and it just hits you again and again and again and again. i saw a piece of cardboard that actually penetrated into the exterior insulation finish system on a school. at the hospital, they had $1 million helicopter. all of the rotors are gone. if a rotor of a helicopter is flying by at 100 miles an hour, what is that going to do to a human body? paul markowski: how far the debris goes is going to depend on essentially how heavy it is. the heavier stuff gets centrifuged out, so big chunks of structures or automobiles. lighter debris, though, like a piece of paper, that won t get centrifuged out. that ll instead go up through the funnel, can end up reaching altitudes of 40, 50,000 feet, and there certainly testimonials out there, people finding pieces of paper or photographs 50 to 100 miles from their origin in the wake of a tornado. mason lillard: we thought it was only, like, 20 minutes before help arrived. it ended up almost being two hours. jim riek: when the paramedics came, they spotted lage first because he s outside. they carried lage out on a two by four, and they brought him to the ambulance, and the paramedic jumped out and said he s not gonna make it. the other ones were trying to cut me out. i had a one inch piece of angle iron go through my right shoulder, break seven ribs, puncture my lower lung, and come out my back. a fourth inch away from my spine and a fourth inch away from my liver. they ended up having to use an electric saw. it felt like 5,000 bees stinging me at one time. and i had arrived sitting on the stretcher, sitting up. once they took my cousin to the hospital, they black tagged him and put him in the morgue. left him for death. a nurse came in and she touched his arm and he let out a horrifying scream, and she grabbed a doctor, said, i think we can save him. two hours later, he was in the or. after the tornado, i had 13 surgeries in total over the course of three years. lage was on the ventilator for at least two weeks. he has a brace on his leg and he can t really use his right arm. but he did survive. the may 22, 2011 tornado killed 158 people directly, and there were three indirect deaths. we did not know that we could experience tornadoes this deadly in modern times. harold brooks: nighttime tornadoes are more dangerous than the same tornado in the daytime, for a lot of reasons. we ascribe this to the fact that people are just less aware at night. [ominous music] i was chasing that day. what was that? oh, i think i see it. i start to see the shape of the tornado come into view. i know this is a significant tornado. oh, wow. that is huge. holy [bleep] ok. ok. ok. we got it. and then i just see the tornado, an absolute beast marching off to the northeast. ah, man, it s moving towards populated area now. it was headed from one small community to another small community, and we knew, based on where this was going, if you draw a line, it s coming right to mayfield. the mayfield event was moving at the upper end of tornado speeds, 60, 65 miles an hour. this was something that is very high end. harold brooks: speed certainly can play an impact on how dangerous a tornado is. a faster tornado is gonna give you less time to react. the speed at which the tornado is going to move along is going to roughly match the speed that the parent thunderstorm s moving along. in some cases, we ve seen storms move as fast as 60, 70, 80 miles per hour because they re embedded in very strong winds. allison chinchar: there is one example of a man in illinois back in 2013. he s filming a tornado that is off in the distance, but he quickly realizes it s actually headed right towards him and his home. man: all right. i got to go. i m coming, honey. woman: [screams] man: aw, man. woman: oh my god! allison chinchar: about 45 seconds later, he gets the look at the scope of the damage that s been done to his house. man: oh my god. our house is freaking destroyed. kim klockow mcclain: the survivors i ve spoken with, they just experience what feels like a building dissolving. one minute i was in a building and the next minute i just wasn t. like a bomb has hit it. it s obliterated. [ominous music] derek vaughan: so at its maximum intensity, the peak winds were up to 190 miles per hour. that s enough to just destroy anything in its path. nothing can stand up to that. you knew people were gonna lose their lives that night. once the tornado approached mayfield, it came in from the southwest side of town. derek vaughan: i had a few officers on shift with me that night. we had decided that we were gonna go ahead and meet at the police department. the services all started going down suddenly. the power in the entire town went off. and of course, when that happened, we knew that it was probably about to hit. i remember officer simpson went to the front window and he just yelled, there s debris coming in. and as i watched him turn and run towards us, the whole front of the building just exploded inward on us. you almost couldn t even tell which way it was up, there was much wind and debris. it was almost like being underwater. trent okerson: mayfield water and electric, their facility was just on the edge of the worst damage path. even there, you saw the massive amounts of debris that was blowing, pieces of wood flying through the air like missiles, and they weren t even directly in the core of that tornado. one of the buildings that was close to the police department that got hit real hard was the f&b bank right there on the court square. and all of a sudden, boom. the tornado hits. it s that fast. trent okerson: the candle factory is a major employer in mayfield. this was right before christmas, and a lot of people that were working extra hours trying to do overtime, and their facility was packed that friday night. autumn kirks: i was working at mcp, the candle factory, that night. me and joe did work together at the factory. usually they try not to put couples together, but for some reason, we ve always made it work. he was so goofy. he d do anything to put a smile on anybody s face. kim klockow mcclain: the night of the storm, the couple were sheltering together when the tornado hit the candle factory. i didn t hear a single thing at all. all i heard was people talking. and then all of a sudden someone said, take cover. brad copeland: the best way i can describe it would be a war zone. i remember thinking the amount of force that could have caused that, you know, how could anybody survive what i was looking at. autumn kirks: joe and i were 10 feet from each other when it first hit. trent okerson: kyanna parsons was an employee there at the candle factory, and kyanna goes on facebook live that night to try to get help from the outside. storm chaser: there s two of them. in 2011, we saw one of those generational tornado outbreaks that doesn t happen in our country but every couple decades. storm chaser: oh, dude, that looks wild. storm chaser: oh, it s right there. that s that tornado right there. storm chaser: [bleep] harold brooks: april 27, there end up being a number of storms that produce tornadoes from central mississippi eastward through alabama. and many of those storms produced multiple tornadoes. just in the state of alabama there were 62 tornadoes that hit that day. seems that every hour that passes today, the news out of the south just gets worse. kim klockow mcclain: after the alabama outbreak, there was kind of a renaissance in our field because we hadn t experienced an event that deeply catastrophic in so long. there were hundreds of fatalities, and we hadn t lost that many people in a tornado outbreak since 1974. storm chaser: oh my god. harold brooks: one of the silver linings of the april 27 outbreak was an understanding that we need to do a whole lot more work on social science with respect to forecasting. i describe myself as a tornado epidemiologist. it s really someone who tries to understand the circumstances that lead someone to be injured or die from something. what are the factors that explain fatalities, and what kinds of interventions can we design, whether in our communication system or structurally in our communities, to help mitigate that threat? among the things studied was the amount of time given to warn the public about tornadoes. a tornado warning is issued when a storm is either actively producing a tornado or it looks really likely to. and we re starting to explore what is the right amount of lead time to give people. what they figured out was there is such a thing as too much lead time. if you give people too much time, say, it s going to be 20 minutes before the tornado arrives, many people will look out their window and see that it s still blue skies. the storm hasn t gotten there yet, and either they think they have more time than they do or they think the storm isn t really going to hit them. so there is such a thing as too much lead time. also what they re studying is how people react to the warning they re given. kim klockow mcclain: fear is a really challenging component of this entire equation. there has been no example i ve seen that is clearer of this fear effect than what happened in oklahoma in 2013. on may 20, we had the tornado that went through oklahoma city and moore and killed 24 people, including several children at a school. and after that, we had just days and days of storms and everyone was just on edge. and when may 31, 2013, a two mile wide tornado hit el reno just west of oklahoma city, we saw spontaneous mass evacuation ahead of that tornado. highways were clogged for over 30 miles. they found out because of fear, people actually did the opposite of what they re supposed to do. they fled their homes. they fled their businesses, places that normally would have been safe. when that happens in mass, that becomes very dangerous. you end up getting stuck in traffic as a tornado hits. reporter: and we re still waiting to hear word on what happened to the 110 people who were inside this candle factory. derek vaughan: once we were able to get down there and assist, i saw that this whole building was just gone. so one of the things that you ll notice if you see kyanna s facebook video was how resilient she was and her efforts to stay positive. kyanna parsons: i was under the rubble approximately about three hours. i see one of the rescue people, and i m crying. i m like, please don t leave me. he says, no, no, no, we re not gonna leave you. a trooper that was at the top grabbed my arm and he pulled. and so got out, and every step i made, there was someone grabbing my hand, someone grabbing my hand, and just there for me. autumn kirks: it felt like a wall on top of me and the three girls next to me. and i don t know who it was, but somebody came and lifted it up and got us all out. the minute i actually got out, i fell to my knees and just broke because i had no idea where joe was. i wanted to go back and look for him. i was told i was not allowed. it hit friday night, and at 9:30 monday morning his mom called me. she s like, autumn, they found him. i m like and i had hope for all of two seconds. she s like, autumn, he didn t make it. i wish i could go back to not knowing because there was hope that, hey, they might still find him. i just i pray that nobody else has to go through this. trent okerson: we have so much technology, we have the ability to control so much in our lives these days. you still can t control mother nature. you can t control a tornado. you can t control what it does. and no matter how prepared you may be, you re still at the mercy of what these storms decide to do. autumn kirks: i have a very healthy respect for mother nature and tornadoes and what they can do. it can ruin your entire life. it can destroy everything you know. in 2011, after the joplin tornado, amber munson had lost her house, most of her possessions,

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Transcripts For FOXNEWS One Nation With Brian Kilmeade 20240609

Normandy, she s unbelievable. there is faulkner with her father, tracy simpson and vietnam, it brought tears to my eyes. he takes us was combat veteran in two theaters, is there anybody more decent pete hegseth as last week and others, who got to remind us, you sure are going to find it in the networks or read about it. the new york times and washington post, this is a very special place. i don t have to say this, i want to say this. twenty tomorrow on life, liberty and levin sunday when we have the governor of florida and america s wiseman, see you then. welcome to one nation, i am brian kilmeade. tonight on the show, dana white, ceo of ufc most successful sport entity in the world and pete hegseth, unwind what s gone wrong before it s too late but first, i want to start with t this, the polls in november and battleground states in many cases are closer but i don t get it when it comes to crowd sizes and enthusiasm it s not a competition. president biden, despite the political power of the white house, the oval office built in everyday can t seem to attract anyone outside his own campaign or perhaps his family. as an trump on the other hand control and enthusiastic crowd wherever he goes. south bronx or rallies, in the winter like conditions at wildwood, new jersey to events that aren t even his like this past weekend ufc event, the passion that surrounds him something to see. ufc ceo, donald trump and a former president. unbelievable. even joe rogan was moved into loyalty from his loyalists coming from the octagon and ufc. watch what the fighters were saying. pretty cool to have a moment there with donald trump after a win. president trump, you re the man. a travesty what they are doing to you. i ll be donating to you, my man. let s get it done. [cheering] a moment with donald trump. one candidate proving america more unobtainable, more than ever before. the other crime is turn time and time again, he wants to give you and everyone the opportunity to experience success he s had. dana white has witnessed growth firsthand. support for president trump unwavering because trump was there for him from the beginning believing in the little engine that could now known as one of america s premier sporting events, ultimate fighting championship. i had a chance to but talk about the relationship with president trump and steadfast support. part one of two parts we have tonight. the one thing that stands out is realty and the one thing appreciate about the former president, maybe future president he was there early, how much does that matter to your relationship? the mark realty is important to me he s been a good friend and he s a massive white man and it s not it was popular but trump was the guy who reached out to us when we couldn t get venues and had us come. we had our first two shows over there and when you think about it, trump here, she print here. he showed up the first fight stayed until the last. the guy who would reach out to me my entire career when things happen say congrats. he was guy who got in with another group who started to compete against us that i would never say anything negatively about trump because it is such good friend and sport. how has that grown? promoter, entrepreneur and builder, president of the no space, does he still call you? yes, i talked to him last night. we talk all the time. he s a good friend of mine. i really care about him as a person. his family, and incredible human being. i m close to him and his family and it will be that way until we die. her family shmuley boteach? connect there doing digit do which is brilliant so what s crazy is your and jared came, i think it was miami the last time, their first fight for four days, they couldn t stop texting me saying this is crazy. we have been to ever think you could go to come up with never been to anything as vanessa. maybe 300, i remember. what is your audience like the president so much? fan base and fighters, we are all aligned in life and everything and it s not that it s any real political side. [chanting] it s common sense, everybody wants the same thing. there s no difference in anybody in this room, if you let the media fiasco away, who want to make a good living in your ho house, want nice cars and kids, who want to take care of our kids. our kids to do well and go to college, everybody wants the same thing, it s not like we don t. it s just the media has created this divide in this country that needs to go away and hopefully soon it will. i know you hate the media you made that clear. thankfully for now i made the cut president s you to speak at the rnc and said defense said don t do it, you did and i was there and you killed it. we need somebody who believes in this country, we need somebody who s proud of this country and who will fight for this country. [cheering] are you glad? everybody told me not to but this is a guy thing gave us a sharp will always hit me up when good things happen at a guy i considered a friend, why what i say no? when he called me, this is what he said. he said if you don t want to do this, i completely understand but i would be honored if you speak at the rnc for me and i said i ll be there, brother. if yes to get? i ll be there. the former president wants to be the next president again, you stare and more fighters eyes than anybody else, where does he rank? number one. take any of the greatest writers of all time, trump was number one. the most resilient human being i ve ever met in my life. in what respect? why keep doing this? got a great life, why keep doing this? the one thing i can tell you and its effect, this guy loves this country and loves all americans regardless of what color, religion or whatever, he s not racist, his good human being and loves america and cares about this country. end of story. if he wasn t that type of guy, i ve never associate myself. prediction? how is he going to do in 2024? looking good, they are trying the kitchen sink and like i said most resilient human being government and keeps marching forward. a little bit more my exclusive interview with dana white later in the show including his latest mentor that could even be bigger than ufc on day one. i do threat china, communist party recruiting u.s. military pilots to train their own army to join intelligent bulletin boards this, china s liberation army pla skills and expertise of these individuals to make its own military air operations more capable any insight into western tactics, techniques and procedures not even hiding it. when they do the west into military submission, chinese nationalist across our southern border at alarming rates. 3500 crossed he legally and make the loan, this may increase over the last three years, less than 2000 in 2022. 2023 24000 plus in the same expected, if not more this year. what are they up to? to assess the stress and so much more is this nation s number one best-selling author, pete hegseth who wrote a book about the challenges here and what we are up against. the war on warriors in the now we will get to more of that in a second. to give the numbers 24000 on the southern border, what are they up to? they re not even hiding it. rolodex and money. not hiding at all. chinese communist party definitely no two individuals are and they ve left nothing happened. everyone has a social critic or, they know if you re coming and going and if you go for reasons unapproved, they know where your families living in these people are on assignment were allowed to be let go did come to the united states, what is the mission and purpose? when you mentioned habits, they are doing it in the open speaking about it starting private companies that look legit and recruit house to train but it s run by the chinese so they create shell companies to make them think they re making a little more cash. this is full-spectrum warfare from every direction. why would anybody in america air force pilots train pallets try to help out the chinese? are they aware you re not on board? this is not qb, we re just giving a speech to the chinese. this is the intel agency doing its job putting out notices and if you are approached by companies never heard of has bags of cash is not your time to cash in because you might be working for somebody working against us. they are trained on our stuff the french and british and they might be open so it s a problem you see from a senior member of the republican side ranking member of the armed services committee and says it s time for a major expansion of the military industrial complex and says we have to invest in the defense plan to make and massive need to make it a for-profit expand the base in which we can make tanks, planes. expand manufacturing you showed me this op-ed i had a chance to talk to staff yesterday just to get insight and it s ascending in the next five to seven years and opening a window where they are going to challenge us in the military capable to meet that. i want to throw money at it but if your auditing making sure money is in the right spot and modernizing to meet the threat of china, that something we have to do. the problem is we are broke vertically spend money it needs to be on the ability to defeat the communist chinese because they are coming for us eventually. the chinese and like 7% of the gdp, with got to get up to 5%. i think it s doable especially if it s for-profit industry, everybody wants patriots, our clients so we could sell them are stuck, there s a market for us. as our allies want to buy more in western europe and we do it through the american industrial base, great. your book is out, it paints an ugly picture where we are with our military but it s all simple. excerpt your book to emphasize for everyone at home. an example of a soldier i spoke to who said thursday is our leader time my platoon leader and skill level stuff for our jobs. training for transgender burning session. chain of command cannot question of someone in the unit want to change their gender. listing of the one in the dod changes to another gender. by the time they transition, three year enlistment is a because they are on medical and not available training, the entire time they hardly served a day in field artillery and i ended with look at china. will not pay for your transgender surgery. he did and obama didn t at the end but biden has broadened with. plus electric stuff, it s so divisive. we have the best and brightest right now, i love this institution but it s gone sideways and we need to fix it, trump is a big chance to fix it. we will keep you in the same thing sunday morning fox & friends . make sure you order the book and watch the show on fox nation. pete, great job. next ahead, you are welcome to watch agreement, one of the most important issues facing young voters in this election cycle it might surprise you. charles payne is here to unwind. ufc president dana white, keep it here. you re watching one nation. [crowd cheering] it may not seem like it, but this, is actually progress in play. a shell energy 100% renewable electricity plan lighting every soccer match at shell energy stadium. we re moving forward with the houston dash. because we re moving forward with everybody. shell. powering progress. we hear all the time publishes for voters this election, immigration. no, it s kind. no, it s abortion but what is the biggest concern for younger americans? i m just checking, we are all in house right now? i m not the only one who runs the numbers of the date and looks of the budget and is like there s no you work hard, you get what you want. no matter how many hours putting, you get nowhere. we bought our house in 2018 and we buy it today 2024, we wouldn t be able to afford it so monthly payment in 2018 was in $2894. today that would be 6000, 776. if you didn t get fixed right now in soaring interest rates, low inventory, how you buy your first home in this impossible market? is the american dream, or should we change? joining us now to offer solutions and allies of the p park, those making money, charles payne. you ve heard this before, what you say to these people. the last guy was humble bringing a little bit. i like what he did there. the young lady was interesting because working hard looking at her age it s been listed to buy a house of this age. first and foremost, do not give up on it. they ve done terrible things with respect for flooding economy and so much money sparking inflation that does not go away. also because the federal reserve has gone involved, you got this whole thing so skewed people have locked in rates reluctant to sell. he will sell a house even if you made big money on it with 2% mortgage and traded in so you don t have a lot of sellers, no incentive for builders. the neuropathy, it s really crazy, really tough. this is going to bug her mind because we have the almost unaffordable housing market in the history of america and in the world. if you want to make housing market affordable, you can do one of three things. housing prices have come down 41%. income on average would go up 69% mortgage rates on average would have to confirm 4.3% instead of over 7% like about three and a half. which it was. not too long ago. the last one is the only one that can happen in the only way interest rates will come them is the economies will go into a deep recession so my advice to people is a couple of things. we are in this new age, work from home so the beautiful thing is you have to overprice to get jobs and consider working further from the city getting a bigger house or smaller payment. the that everyone at the bottom. right now you have to make sacrifices. a couple weeks ago, you got to get these things up. you can t have an only fans account, the public health, you can t go out for avocado toast every morning, you just can t have that. nobody ever could have it all. i said that for long time to buy my house. the little things matter, it s a mindset. say the cash so when circumstances change in the table change and become into recession and housing prices plummet in mortgage rates plummet, you will be in control. it could happen soon. 1981 average person who got the first house, 29. 2013 was 31. 2023 west 35 so that s what s frustrating people. how to bring him something new market the stock market go to texas? looks like they will launch the top texas stock market with the help of rock in citadel in 2026. how real is this? very real. what s ironic, the same week, the same couple of days the news came out, they dropped congestion pricing scheme. charge everyone to drive through the city. you already paid a ton of money and of course parking is crazy so it is ironic governor say let s hold off on congestion pricing. they are chasing businesses out of america. these are major companies and if they are getting tired of new york, don t you think other people will follow? of course because these are companies trying to attract top talent out there, smartest people out there. they have choices. when you graduate from your school in the top of your class, you may not want to go through vatican city that is expensive and a crime-ridden city so they have to make adjustments like every other business and that s why businesses have fled from california and new york, huge. using the numbers and how much it costs to rent u-haul as opposed to one going to new y york. everybody wants one. i think we should keep our eye on that and see what s happening and i see you and your company s ongoing public and keep it private, they just don t want the scrutiny and others looking over their shoulders; public became a scam in my mind the last 20 years, they ve ripped american people off by a trillion dollars. this is my personal opinion. what used to happen is 25 years ago the company would go look at $30 a share and later trading at $60 a share and everyone says look at the money. you could have sucked up and now they stay private and keep raising money privately start with some family in the first round and then another round and every time the raise money natalie, they hike the value of the company it doesn t matter how much. a company could be worth five billing and hike it to 40 billion and then go public at 80 billing. the public has caught on. if you want to go public, go public at a reasonable price because no one should buy these. thanks so much, appreciate the passion and insight and so does america. coming up on the rest of the joke the rest of my interview with dana white from the u.s. these rise relationship with joe rogan, we covered all. don t miss a minute of one nation. listen to the music. i am champion new york, which president emanuel macron rolling out the red carpet at the house president biden for a steak dinner this evening earlier in the day, the two leaders discussed wars and gaza, ukraine and more. the white house working to show it takes threat russia poses to the continent seriously. leaders today coming return of the israeli hostages rescued from the gaza strip. today once again reaching gaza through newly repaired. , crews delivering about 1 million pounds of humanitarian aid today, the. was only operational about a week before i was blown apart with high winds and large waves last month. restrictions on land crossing said fighting limited the flow of supplies to the war-torn territory now back to one nation with brian kilmeade. more not on my interview with the great dana white. he started his career as a bouncer, climbed the ladder to become one of the most successful businessman in sports around the world. president of the usc, a billion-dollar company. the company is breaking records quickly and venues around the world boosting almost 100 million supporters on social media, all platforms and or young, they understand the sport and appreciate the effort and excitement each week fighters. exciting and something like it. i love jujitsu at all, sports. even if the can t walk afterwards, to put it on for you guys. these guys always put it on for the fence connect different styles fighting against each other and i love the background stories about letters and i love getting into it. the unpredictability. every night. negative passion? travel to find out about the magic behind man that runs the autopsy. he said easily this is the number one sports league in the world and in the country. what you think about ufc when you are working here people would laugh if you thought it would overtake boxing good luck you ve taken this hard work that america, i like to shine here but i want to be a force around the world. what you do without gabi and to expand this global brand? the beautiful thing upset stay one, this will eventually be the biggest in the world because no matter color country or language you speak, we are all human and fighting is in our dna. and make sense and everybody understands and when you find a guy who s the baddest dude a woman in the world and they speak like you speak and look like you, everybody rallies around them so there isn t a fighter in the world the country we can t find a fighter from like i told you, he continues to expand, we are streaming and go to places with never been about saudi arabia for the first time working on africa. we haven t been to spain yet. i opened an institute in mexico city. some of the baddest dude to other mexicans so imagine the mexicans that will come up in the next five to ten years you build a facility fighters become? one 100%. when you think about business in the history of the world that produced trillions of dollars in revenue like boxing has in the end of the day is nothing there, we built a leak and reinvest in the sport and ufc every year. millions, tens of millions the hundreds of millions of dollars we invest into the sport to reach this vision i have. you can have a sport where you allow blows to the brainstem paralyze your opponent. he tried to stop it. and here we are today it s a global sport. we break records after work and i m pretty sure will break the record this week so when we going to venues like rolling stones and massive acts in these arenas, i love that about it. they keep saying america has gone soft, there s a lot of adrenaline in your stands and the octagon and people prom promoting, are you the anomaly? probably. i agree the world has gone soft and agree that we are not in any way, shape or form. if you say you are savage, to make a killing easier. when i grew up there was old money and in the, it was harder there s a lot of disruption now. there s never been more opportunity in my lifetime than there is right here and right now. if you are one of these young kids who has heart and grit and determination and want to win, there s never been more opportunity than right now. a 19-year-old dana white had to go, you had to have side jobs or there s no safety net. for people who have a safety net, how do you keep the hunger? different than hunger i say this all the time, the problem with people as they don t know what they want to do the rest of their life. i was lucky that i always knew what i wanted to do. it wasn t this, i wanted to be in the fight business no matter what it was and i started my way in the bottom and worked my way up but these jobs like paving roads and being a bellman, these are the jobs you have to have growing up like people tell me, he worked hard. when i get to work everyday nine to nine, you know who works hard? the guys paving roads everyday digging ditches and guys who pour concrete in roofing jobs. that s hard work so you have to have those jobs to understand what real hard work really is. i just watched you and people would be happy with that turner let alone away in. when you come to fight week you have my favorites from a number one is the fight. number two are face-offs and the press conference leading up to it. when you are a fight man, those are usually the three things. wayne is the opportunity where you get to see how mentally, physically in every way shape or form how prepared are the fighters? if the guy looks away during the face-offs or doesn t look in shape, that s when you look to see who s going to win. i think your checking out the fighters, you re looking at t them. i love this game. i love everything about it. two be able to stand in the middle every saturday between the best fighters in the world getting ready for the fight the next day is one of the coolest things you see behind us, they pay to have that experience and i pulled a young kid right there and the main event, it s like what the once-in-a-lifetime type of stuff. it is the man in me is what it is. i love you so much and i do it 23 years now so i can imagine what it s like. can was on never dig up ag again. do you remember a time when they said he dies in the ring and said in modern america, there s no place, it s too brutal. contact sports are dangerous. la crosse, boxing, mma, the list goes on 30 year history, there s never been a death or serious injury. how many sports can say. and you made it, he put a time limit and put white president, that s a lot to do with the rules you put in. is it the way it started? who want to regulated sports and we spent millions in health and safety. if you take athletes into the proper medical testing. make it as safe as you can possibly make it. the one thing that sticks with me is loyalty. i think about the story the boys wanted how joe rogan went from the guy on fear factor he looked like an athlete the whole time. i did not know he worked for y you. when we first company basin new york, i had to fly and go through and figure out what would come back and what i would throw away. will credible is because this will hear so i had to go through every single tape and one tape he had his top show and joe rogan on, the fear factor guy. you are the biggest [bleep] on the planet. what you doing? you can t assault people. you can t run up to him and hit him. this open fighting stuff and broken goes into this talking about how incredible the sport is, what these guys would do to movie stars and what they would do to boxers and stuff and i saw him and it clicked and i go, this is the guy i need, who i need to be my commentator so i reached out and we hit it off and that s it and he said wait a minute, you re telling me the sport i love the most in the world but the best seat in the house and talk about it on tv, i haven t reheated the first 13 for free and the rest is history. the biggest podcast are in the world, brady greatest commentator of all time. your latest. he sent us through the roof. can you describe it and why it works for you? the most successful thing about a part of in such a short amount of time. in 15 months it s a massive social media juggernaut and financial beast. i love it. you seem to love it. everything the people are saying is exactly what they said about the ufc in early days and plenty of people don t like it. plenty of people didn t like the ufc but there are 8 billion people in the world, believe me. enough people like it to make it incredibly successful. congratulations. thanks. can t go wrong with him. very nice and sit down and get politic time. big fight at the end of the month. i ll be back on stage, history, liberty and flask to her and i ll talk patriotic, inspirational, motivational. indianapolis june 29. towards the end of july in pennsylvania, i ll be driving there and i get a chance and go to the meeting great, i ll sign your book and take some pictures if you go for the vip treatment. next, they ll never guess what undercover spy joe biden claims to have known for 40 years. we ll take the next is tom shillue joins us on news dual. we ve always loved taking care of our home, from the gardening to any repairs that come up. but last year, grandpa here broke his arm. snowboarding. snowshoeing. anyway, he was fine, but it takes longer to heal now. and we prefer to stay active. we realized some home maintenance jobs aren t worth the risk. that s when we called leaffilter to protect our gutters. leaffilter s patented filter technology keeps debris out of your gutters for good. guaranteed. they gave us a free inspection, and we got our system installed that week. our leaffilter trusted pros will clean out your gutters, repair or replace your gutters, and install leaffilter, america s #1 gutter protection system. honestly, my only regret is not calling sooner. it s true, leaffilter has saved us so much time and the peace of mind. now we can focus on what we really enjoy. join millions of satisfied homeowners. get leaffilter. call 833 leaffilter today, or visit leaffilter.com smile! you found it. the feeling of finding psoriasis can t filter out the real you. so go ahead, live unfiltered with the one and only sotyktu, a once-daily pill for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, and the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it s like the feeling of finding you re so ready for your close-up. or finding you don t have to hide your skin just your background. once-daily sotyktu was proven better, getting more people clearer skin than the leading pill. don t take if you re allergic to sotyktu; serious reactions can occur. sotyktu can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections, cancers including lymphoma, muscle problems, and changes in certain labs have occurred. tell your doctor if you have an infection, liver or kidney problems, high triglycerides, or had a vaccine or plan to. sotyktu is a tyk2 inhibitor. tyk2 is part of the jak family. it s not known if sotyktu has the same risks as jak inhibitors. find what plaque psoriasis has been hiding. there s only one sotyktu, so ask for it by name. so clearly you. sotyktu. 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members of the european parliament. who will shape the eu, as it faces defining challenges. so what are the issues driving this election? and what s foremost in people s minds as they head to the ballot boxes? welcome to europe votes 202a. hello and welcome from sunny lisbon, where we are coming to you from today. i m mark lowen, one of the bbc s europe correspondents. and over the course of this programme, we will bring new reports from across the continent as the election gets under way. but first, what s it all about? elections to the european parliament take place every five years. it s the only directly elected institution of the european union. shaping the bloc s policies, legislation and budgets. voting happens by proportional representation. each country gets a number of members of the european parliament, or meps, relative to its size. the meps sit in transnational groups according to their ideology. so, for example, there s left and right, eurosceptics and greens. the balance between them could change considerably this time. and this is the first european election since the united kingdom finally left the eu. polling is taking place across three days, with different countries voting at different times. the first eu member electing its new meps is the netherlands. with an expected surge in populist and far right support, the dutch are still in the process of forming their own government after elections last november, which saw the anti immigration politician geert wilders win most votes. climate has been one of the most divisive issues with the country under pressure to reduce its carbon footprint. anna holligan has been speaking to young people on both sides of the heated debate. every farmer is a bit crazy because they work the whole week, day in, day out. this man is a fourth generation dairy farmer. it s a kind of a hobby, a way of life. and, yes, the love for this. home to 3.7 million cows approximately one for every four voters a dense population, global shipping and aviation hubs, the netherlands is one of europe s biggest emitters of harmful nitrogen, a potent greenhouse gas. with the desire to hit its 2030 climate goals, the dutch government proposed a number of measures designed to make farming more sustainable. but many farmers felt scapegoated. it s always about the farmers, so every time we had a problem and we had to reduce with nitrogen or carbon or whatever, it s always focused on the farms. and in the summer of 2022, protests ignited, thousands of farmers used their tractors to blocade highways and supermarket distribution centres. across europe, populist politicians have channelled this discontent to force the eu and member states to scale down climate legislation, by many considered to be central to decarbonisation. the key issues for dutch voters are migration, the cost of living and very much the green transition. in the drive to reduce co2 emissions, there s a lively debate over whether the eu is pushing too hard and too fast. what do we want? climate justice! and on the other side of the spectrum, climate activists have also been applying pressure. at a recent rally in the hague, winnie was among those calling for an end to government tax breaks and subsidies for high fossil fuel emitting companies. but she thinks the european union can help their cause. there s a big role for europe to play there because what we see is the dutch politics, dutch politicians have a hard time trying to satisfy their voters and still commit to the paris agreement. and that s a shame because that s the bare minimum that we need to do. among many young people, there is a shared frustration with the polarisation that infiltrates the climate debate. farmers as well will feel the effects of climate change and we need the farmers, so let s shake hands on this. we both want to have a clear perspective for the future, i so i think no one has a clear solution to make one - clear policy in europe. in italy, too, conservative parties are expected to make big gains in election. brothers of italy, the party of the prime minister, giorgia meloni, is topping the opinion polls. she has moved away from a previously more far right position, moderating in office, but she still takes a hard line on immigration, one of the issues voters are worried about. and she s struggling to boost the flagging birth rate and brain drain of young italians leaving the country. as i found out in latina, just south of rome. the big beasts of italian politics are lining up for their european battle. and at this farm south of rome, which rears 1,800 buffaloes, the question is whether change is afloat. it s a very italian family business, churning out exceptional mozzarella and ricotta. the grandson of the founder says the problems are many, from european farmers being undercut by non eu countries to another long standing italian issue. it s not that easy to find workers. medium salary in italy is not going up for a long time. and this is very sad because many times, younger university students prefer to not work because of this. it means they employ migrant workers to fill the gap, and there is no shortage there, with new arrivals soaring by 50% last year, despite the government promising to crack down. so, at the centre for young unaccompanied migrants, more keep coming and the town is feeling the strain. it s ok for now. the numbers we are receiving now. but i don t know in the future if they will increase more, if it will be ok or difficult. you are at your maximum point, do you think? maybe. yes, i think so. they put together pieces of broken lives in a country they will now call home. it cost 2000 euros to get here from burkina faso. translation: lots of africans think europe is a paradise, - but it is not true. now i tell people back home to stay there, but i know they will keep trying, and even if italy wants to stop the boats, it is impossible. so the to do list is long for giorgia meloni, elected prime minister 18 months ago and still leading the polls. the main city here, latina, mirrors italy, with the same issues and the first woman in charge. translation: the meloni | government is working well. we have problems of the falling birth rate, for example, which affects all of europe. we used to passively accept migrants, but now we have a big say in managing flows. it is important that our party wins this election so we can put forward our ideas at a european level. behind italy s blustery beauty lies age old problems, but what has changed here in the last 18 months is who is trying to solve them, with giorgia meloni dominating italian politics and hoping to further entrench her position after these european elections. but well beyond these shores, europe s other right wing leaders are looking at her as a sort of figurehead, an example of what they, too, will hope to achieve. and so, a key moment for italy and for europe, a vote on how to navigate these rough times. well, across the eu, immigration, the economy and the environment are all big themes for voters in this election. that is also true in germany, the eu s largest economy, and with the largest population electing the highest number of meps. but abortion rights campaigners there say women s health issues are failing to get enough attention. 0ur corresponded jessica parker sent this report from hamburg. adriana volunteers to help improve abortion access. in germany, abortions are in reality permitted during early pregnancy, but remain technically illegal. when i read the penalty law, it really crushed me. because it really says you are still a criminal when you have an abortion. you can do it up until 12 weeks without being actually punished, but you are still kind of a criminal. and also, the law is written like they are trying to force you to think about it and to keep the pregnancy. so they are really pushing you in one direction. do you think this issue, women s health issues, have a prominent enough place in the public debate? of course not. women s issues are most of the time not the main priority. i would prefer if we had an eu law that ensures that everyone has access to safe abortions. even in wealthy liberal cities like hamburg, campaigners say women face barriers to abortion, while access across europe can significantly vary, from france where abortions have become a constitutional right to almost total illegality in poland and malta. abortion laws are set by member states, but in the last eu parliament, a majority of lawmakers called for access to be guaranteed across the bloc. it is a prime example of how some see the eu as an engine for social change, while others believe that brussels is already too interfering. it s up to the nations to say whether they want to have this or that particular abortion law, and the eu should not meddle with that. they have done that with other things, they try to interfere with nations sovereignty, and i think they should not push the nations too far. we have seen what happens when they do that, and when people pick up on those ideas in particular countries, you saw that in the uk, and they play it well, people may turn away on a larger scale from the european union, and that s not a good idea. this professor believes eu wide change is a distant prospect. i think member states- focus very much on having competencies in criminal law, and especially in these - sensitive areas of abortion. the eu parliamentary elections are nowjust weeks away. if, as some polls predict, there is a rightwards shift, that may diminish calls for embedding abortion rights. as parties push very different visions of how far the eu should reach into people s lives. from the chilly climes of northern germany down to the boiling beaches of southern spain, the increasing difficulty of making ends meet is playing big in voters minds. spain is the eu s fourth largest economy, but it has the bloc s highest unemployment rate at around 12%, and among young people, it is also top, at almost 30%. in andalusia, away from the tourist hotspots, the country s biggest region is struggling with low wages, high unemployment and a lack of infrastructure. nick beek reports now from a city where one person in every four is out of work. in a perfect world, 20 year old lucia would make a living doing what she loves, restoring furniture. today, it is this coat of arms. but it does not pay enough, and in her part of spain, finding anyjob is really hard. translation: i am working very hard to try to make a living - for what i love doing. i see my friends with full time jobs only making 700 euros a month. they take advantage of the fact we are young because they know we are going to shut up and take whatever money they give us. in the city of algeciras, these people face a tough future. it feels like a bustling place, but 40% of young people cannot find a job. the highest rate in the whole country. the sky high level of unemployment here means that there is huge scepticism that anything will change for the better after the european parliament elections in six weeks time. there are deep rooted economic problems, and despite the vibrancy of this place, success stories are pretty hard to find. but this is one. business is good at the repair company. a 230 metre long containership the latest vessel they re fixing. it s meant 21 year old mario has been able to get a decent job, something that has eluded many of his friends. outside of the sector, it is difficult to have a permanent job. the contracts they are providing, a low wage, short term, they take a little bit of advantage of the people to save them money. one of the bosses says he would love to take on more workers, but the problem is that while so many young people need a job, theyjust don t have the expertise. we are the highest percentage of unemployed people - here and those people, we cannot get with us, | because they don t have the skills. - this city boasts the biggest port in spain, but does not feel the benefits. the eu is sending 140 million euros to the region to try to boostjobs, which may or may not win votes at the european elections. but it feels much bigger investment is needed here, particularly in roads, railways and other infrastructure, to turn the tide for this young generation. and so, to france, often seen as the other half of the power couple driving the eu, along with germany. but it, too, is seeing a surge in support for the far right, the national rally of marine le pen and her young co leader has been towering over opinion polls at around twice the level of support of the nearest rival, the party of emmanuel macron. that could put the far right in a strong position ahead of the next french presidential election in 2027. 0ur paris correspondent hugh schofield has been finding out why this has all been happening, and he starts his report in a cathedral town around 160 kilometres south east of paris. they are on a roll and they know it. they, the national rally, are so far ahead in the french polls that their biggest worry is supporters like these taking a massive victory for granted and not turning out. that is why the president has come to this market town. selfie hell, of course. this is the new face of france s far right. he is personable, popular and above all, very young, and atjust 28, he is leading the national rally in these elections to new heights. circumstances are helping. inflation is hurting. 0ut here in the provinces, president macron is unpopular. and now there has been a run of atrocious stories of violence among immigrant communities in schools, in the paris suburbs, a 15 year old was beaten to death, seemingly by the brothers of a teenage girl angry that she was in contact with him. the case is not unique. for the national rally s newest star recruit, it translates into a popular demand for authority. this former head of the agency frontex says he was hounded out for trying to be tough. immigration is a factor in many of these cases of violence, he says. this is a cultural clash. the fact that some teenagers consider that their sister shall not talk to a boy, that this is a matter of honour, and this is not part of our culture. in france, it is not part of our culture. i m sure nowhere in continental europe or in the uk. back on the campaign trail, i asked jordan bardella where he thought the valance was coming from. translation: there is | a new savagery in society which means you might be attacked anywhere because you are not wearing the right kind of clothes or because you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. and now this violence is affecting the institutions of the state, like schools. his answer is to get tough, increase penalties, crackdown on illegal immigration. many, it seems, would agree. so, while voters in much of europe are focusing on their internal challenges, in some eu countries, it is what is happening outside or, rather, beside their country that is a priority, not least for poland, bordering ukraine, but also russia and belarus. although some other eu members in the east of the bloc, such as hungary and slovakia, have wavered in their commitment to assisting ukraine militarily, poland has been a firm voice against the threat of moscow. but there are signs of strain in its relation with kyiv and the conflict next door is having a political impact in poland, as our eastern europe correspondent reports. all along its northern border, poland is on alert. because on the other side here is russian territory that is heavily militarised. poland has taken the threat posed by its neighbour very seriously. ever since the full scale invasion of ukraine. its constant warning is that vladimir putin will not stop there, so poland now plans to spend millions heightening security. prime minister donald tusk is making russia a big issue of european elections. reinforcing the border is about telling the enemy to stay away. and in polish schools, new security drills. getting prepared in case of an emergency. first lesson, evacuation. the training is run by soldiers with the territorial defence. it s partly about building confidence in the armed forces. partly learning skills to cope in a crisis. the teenagers we met here had no doubts why they were doing this. we are in danger. i m worried that the war will come to poland. russia is near to us - and they could attack us. i think. but fearing moscow does not always mean help for kyiv, not to those who spoiled this grain for ukraine at the polish border. the polish countryside is often a place of strong feelings. not all of them positive about the eu of kyiv. not all of them positive about the eu or kyiv. this man has been farming since he was 18. but he says ukrainian goods are starting to flood the market here, undercutting local produce and threatening his livelihood. translation: it looks like ukraine is fighting a war on two fronts, one with russia and one against polish farmers. an economic and agricultural war. if this continues, we willjust perish. we have no chance. it s not the economy, though, its security that is poland s big theme at these elections. the message that living next door to russia remains a risk. and that all europe needs to remain on guard. so, those are many of the issues particular to each country, and here is a particularity with the election itself. changes to the law in some eu member states mean that this year, 16 and 17 year olds are able to vote. while in some countries, the youth vote leans towards the greens or the left, in many, there is an unprecedented support for the far right among young voters, which is expected to help those parties make significant gains. sophia sent this report from the heart of the european union, in brussels. in some countries, like belgium, the voting age has been lowered to 16. do you think that the european elections matter? yes. it s a very big - opportunity for us. and i really like it because it gives us a voice that - we never had before. europe needs to be stronger because we cannot always trust nato. my history teachers are really saying that it would not - surprise me if something i would happen in the future, so that really scares me. and my future and thinking about my children, my - future children, i don t have children now. - but more young people going to the polls won t necessarily translate into support for the eu. in fact, an unprecedented number of young voters are siding with far right, populist parties. the success of the far right among young people in part has to do with their positions on immigration or on anti woke. but also, with their very successful social media strategy, especially on platforms such as tiktok. they also have this very clear antiestablishment discourse, and even a rebellious vibe, that can appeal to young voters. that rebellion blaring out in the capital of europe. hundreds of farmers have come to protest here at brussels with their tractors. they have come from lots of different countries and many of them are really young. as voting gets under way across europe, they want to send a strong message that the eu just isn t listening to them. the reason why we vote for the right is that we have global issues that we don t know how we can take control of. we can actually solve the issues that the left tried to solve, but failed to do so. another issue that is driving them to the right is migration. there is a big issue when it. comes to security and when it comes to keeping in track of all of the people - that come in. so i think that europe does not have the capacity - to receive that many people. and that is why you are voting to the right? that is why i m - voting common sense. common sense or not, many young people feel that the more traditional parties are not listening to their concerns. and that disconnect is what could deliver the most significant victory to the far right since the eu was founded, more than half a century ago. so many challenges, and so much to play for. the 720 meps elected will take decisions on issues that affect all eu citizens, on everything from food standards to immigration, and climate targets to banking rules. and they will vote to decide who becomes president of the european commission, leading the institution for the next five years. the results are expected late on the last day of voting, sunday, the 9th ofjune. we will cover the twists and turns of this election right here on the bbc. but until then, from me, mark lowen, and the rest of our teams right across europe, thanks for watching. bye bye. hello there. it s been a pretty decent start to the weekend. there was a good deal of sunshine around across most of the country. a bit of cloud here and there, a few showers mostly in the north. part two of the weekend doesn t look quite as good. it will start certainly quite chilly. but we ve got a couple of weather fronts pushing down from the north west that will increase cloud through the day, with some splashes of rain. now, we ve got this weather front approaching the north west of the country to move through this evening. showers merging together to produce longer spells of rain for the north and west of scotland. so unsettled, breezy, showery in the north, turning cloudier for northern ireland, but clearer skies for large parts of england and wales, with lighter winds here. so it will turn chilly for most. single digits, i think, for the majority of the country. but with more cloud across northern ireland, we will fall to around ten degrees in belfast. so sunday, then, we ve got low pressure still towards the norwegian sea there, bringing northern westerly winds into the country. we start off with quite a bit of sunshine. scotland, england and wales, cloudy skies for northern ireland, south west scotland, in towards north west england, north wales. and that cloud, with splashes of rain, will spill south eastwards through the day. so it will turn cloudy across much of england and wales, probably the best of the sunshine across the far south west, and the northern half of scotland doing pretty well, with sunny spells. but there will be blustery showers here and a cooler day to come, i think, because of more cloud around temperatures of about 12 to 17 degrees. as we move through sunday night, that area of rain splashes across the irish sea, into much of england and wales, becomes confined to southern and eastern areas by the end of the night. so where we have the cloud and the rain, then, a less cold night here, 10 to 12 degrees under clearer skies. further north, it will turn chilly. we start to pick up a northerly wind as we move into monday. that rain slowly clears away from the south and east. it may take a while to clear the east of england. eventually, it will do. then it s a bright day for most, sunshine and showers. most of these across the northern half of scotland, where they will be quite blustery and a chilly northerly wind at that. temperatures, 10 to 1a degrees in the north, 15 to 17 further south, giving some sunny spells. and we hold on to this chilly northerly wind through tuesday, even into wednesday as well. before low pressure starts to move in from the south west, that ll cut off the chilly northerly and temperatures will slowly recover towards the end of the week. but it s going to be a fairly unsettled and a cool week to come, with a little bit of sunshine here and there. live from washington. this is bbc news. four israeli hostages abducted by hamas last october reunited with their families after israeli forces freed them from captivity in gaza. hamas reports more than 200 palestinians were killed in the raid by the idff. the raid by the idf. two hospitals say they have counted scores of bodies. we ll have the latest from the general election campaign he as the conservatives are pledging tax cuts and labour promises to help small businesses. hello, i m helena humphrey. glad you could join me. four israeli hostages taken by hamas during the october 7th attacks have now been reunited with their families. but israeli forces in gaza killed scores of palestinians in the military operation to free them. israeli special forces raided two locations in nuseirat, in central gaza in broad daylight. 0ne israeli soldier was killed. hamas says more than 200 palestinians were killed in the operation. an israeli military spokesman said there were under100 palestinian casualties. the eu s top diplomat condemned the israeli raid. the us president has also spoken out at a press conference during his state visit to france. i want to echo president macron s comments welcoming

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two women one serb, one albanian prepared to put aside the divisions that tore their worlds apart. the late 1990s conflict between serb forces and albanian insurgents for the future of the former yugoslav province of kosovo left thousands dead. serbian forces attempted to rid the region of its ethnic albanian population. the kosovo liberation army retaliated. many civilians died most of them men. around 5,800 people disappeared. 25 years later, and almost 1,600 people are still missing, leaving many mothers, wives, and sisters to lament birthdays uncelebrated, weddings unplanned, and grandchildren unborn. among them, kujtime, an ethnic albanian who s lived all her life in the city that s become kosovo s lasting symbol of ethnic partition. it was during that time that tragedy struck. dragica, an ethnic serb, lived in kosovo until the war forced her to flee to serbia. her 17 year old son, ivan, went missing on the ill fated journey tojoin her. during spring 1999, the war in kosovo entered its most intense phase. nato intervened in the war, targeting serbian forces they accused of ethnic cleansing. crimes against civilians intensified. kujtime and her family found themselves at the centre of a massacre in mitrovica, at theirfamily home. over the years, the experts working on recovering the missing have faced many obstacles in locating and identifying the remains. kosovo unilaterally declared independence from serbia in 2008. many countries recognise its independence, but not serbia. but, for experts to excavate the mass graves, both sides must work together. families of the missing on opposite sides faced the same problems. many spent years contacting institutions, governments, the military, embassies, and journalists in a desperate attempt to find any trace of their relatives. it took years before serbia and kosovo finally cooperated. but when they did, they worked jointly for over a decade, investigating and discovering new mass graves, and bringing news of missing loved ones to many families. they had identified two thirds of the missing before work stopped in 2021, due to rising tensions between belgrade and pristina. organisations on both sides of the former conflict are determined that the missing third are not forgotten. in mitrovica, gjyla haziri, together with kujtime, has been documenting the missing. dragica and kujtime lived 35km from each other in the same country, yugoslavia. the break up of yugoslavia led to years of war and left communities divided none more so than in mitrovica. this bridge, built to connect, now divides. to the south kosovo albanians who are proud of what they see as their new country. to the north kosovo serbs who pledge their allegiance to another. to this day, kujtime does not feel welcome in the northern part of her city. before the war, dragica lived in pristina today, majority albanian. now she is returning to kosovo, to make contact with kujtime s organisation and visit her former neighbourhood. it s the day of missing persons in kosovo. to mark the occasion, the voice of parents organisation is calling for united multiethnic collaboration in the search for those still missing, and that the rights of families of the missing are not forgotten. kujtime never discovered how exactly her brother died, but she was one of those who found her missing relative s remains. after a decade of searching, they were excavated from a mass grave, along with a few personal belongings. dragica and kujtime have agreed to meet. emotions around the ethnic divides still run deep, and a meeting between women from different sides of the war is difficult for both of them. even though it s tough, both agree that these conversations have to be had. in serbia and kosovo, a generation has grown up not knowing the conflict and pain their parents knew. memories are fading. the world is moving on. but for those left behind, it remains an open wound. women like kujtime and dragica feel their respective governments have made promises they re yet to keep. they don t know when or how this will end. but in the meantime, they re united in their quest to preserve the memory of the missing. hello there. it s been a pretty decent start to the weekend. there was a good deal of sunshine around across most of the country. a bit of cloud here and there, a few showers, mostly in the north. part two of the weekend doesn t look quite as good. it will start sunny, quite chilly. but we ve got a couple of weather fronts pushing down from the northwest that will increase cloud through the day, with some splashes of rain. now, we ve got this weather front approaching the northwest of the country to move through this evening. showers merging together to produce longer spells of rain for the north and west of scotland. so unsettled, breezy, showery in the north, turning cloudier for northern ireland, but clearer skies for large parts of england and wales, with lighter winds here. so it will turn chilly for most. single digits, i think, for the majority of the country. but with more cloud across northern ireland, we will fall to around 10 degrees in belfast. so sunday, then, we ve got low pressure still towards the norwegian sea there, bringing northern westerly winds into the country. we start off with quite a bit of sunshine. scotland, england and wales, cloudy skies for northern ireland, southwest scotland, in towards north west england, north wales. and that cloud, with splashes of rain, will spill south eastwards through the day. so it will turn cloudy across much of england and wales, probably the best of the sunshine across the far southwest, and the northern half of scotland doing pretty well, with sunny spells. but there will be blustery showers here and a cooler day to come, i think, because of more cloud around temperatures of about 12 to 17 degrees. as we move through sunday night, that area of rain splashes across the irish sea, into much of england and wales, becomes confined to southern and eastern areas by the end of the night. so where we have the cloud and the rain, then, a less cold night here, 10 to 12 degrees under clearer skies. further north, it will turn chilly. we start to pick up a northerly wind as we move into monday. that rain slowly clears away from the south and east. it may take a while to clear the east of england. eventually, it will do. then it s a bright day for most, sunshine and showers. most of these across the northern half of scotland, where they will be quite blustery and a chilly northerly wind at that. temperatures, 10 to 14 degrees in the north, 15 to 17 further south, giving some sunny spells. and we hold on to this chilly northerly wind through tuesday, even into wednesday as well. before low pressure starts to move in from the southwest, that ll cut off the chilly northerly and temperatures will slowly recover towards the end of the week. but it s going to be a fairly unsettled and a cool week to come, with a little bit of sunshine here and there. you will live from london. this is bbc news israel has been criticised by a senior european union official over the killing of dozens of palestinians in an operation in gaza yesterday the mission was to rescue four hostages who had been held ship in the territory since the hamas attacks eight months ago. election campaigning continues across the uk ahead of a key week in which parties will set out their manifestos. major restoration work has begun in sweden to protect the wreck of a magnificent 17th century warship the vasa which is housed in a museum in stockholm. hello. i m catherine byaruhanga. the eu s most senior diplomat josep borrell has strongly condemned the killing of palestinians in israel s hostage rescue mission describing it as another massacre of civilians . four israeli hostages taken by hamas during the october seventh attacks were freed during the raid in nuseirat, in central gaza, in broad daylight. 0ne israeli soldier died. the hamas run health ministry says more than 200 palestinians were killed in the raid. israel claims there were fewer than one hundred casualties. 0ur middle east correspondent hugo bachega has more from tel aviv. a dramatic rescue and she s free again. 25 year old noa argamani, captured by hamas on the 7th

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Transcripts For BBCNEWS Click 20240609

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and campaigning continues across the uk ahead of the general election injuly. it s expected that parties will set out their manifestos over the next week. now on bbc news, click. this week, we re heading into space to find out how we ll live, work and eat on the moon. we have space homes and a spacewoman. all of a sudden, it clicked in my head. wow, the international space station is a submarine in space. ..moon bots and moon dust. the surface is fine and powdery. i can pick it up loosely with my toe. you know, i think i ve seen that chap somewhere before. jfk: we choose to go - to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. i neil armstrong: it s one small step for man. - ..one giant leap for mankind. 52 years ago, we laid our last footprint on the moon. as the crew of apollo 17 left the surface, they didn t know that gene cernan would be the last person to walk on another world for quite a while. we re on our way, houston. but now, in this decade, finally. ..we re going back. mission control: and lift off of artemis 1. nasa s artemis programme will, in the next year or two, return us to our neighbour. part of its mission to land the first woman and the first person of colour on the moon. another part to use what we learn here to send the first astronauts to mars. this is where it all began florida s kennedy space center named after the president who made the original pledge to go to the moon. and now, this place is at the centre of even grander plans, because this time, we re notjust visiting the moon we want to stay. this is gateway, humanity s first space station that will orbit another world. it will go round the moon every seven days. and, like the international space station above earth, astronauts will call this place home . although, where the iss can accommodate up to 12 astronauts and is comparable to a five or six bedroom house, gateway will be.more cosy. gateway is a studio apartment. it s. we re going to have room for our four astronauts, multiple docking ports, so we can bring our orion crew transportation ship, we can bring logistics, and we can dock a lander. these four explorers won t all be cooped up on board for the whole time, though. two will actually be spending a week or two on location, down on the lunar surface. it s a chance to further study the landscape and hopefully find a location for our next giant leap a permanent moon base. gateway will be there before we put a habitat on the surface. gateway allows us to access any point on the lunar surface. when we went with apollo, we had to pick that spot on the moon and go to it. gateway will give us the opportunity to go down at different locations. the first section of gateway could be launched as early as 2025, with new modules then being added from 2027. a lunar base is admittedly further out and it comes with risk, but also reward. so, how do we make that a reality? to find out, it s time for me to take one small step of my own. oh, wow. i can instantly see the dust kind of kicking up. yeah. it s really fine, isn t it? it leaves the footprints like you d expect. oh, my gosh. that s brilliant. and this is how moon dust behaves, itjust puffs up like that? it does, yeah. it s so fine. welcome to swamp works. ..the dusty, dirty lab where they work with simulated moon dust. now, the loose soil that covers the lunar surface is called regolith. it s extremely fine, very sharp on a microscopic scale, and it gets everywhere. so when we landed with apollo 11, we didn t know what the surface of the moon exactly was going to be like. you ll notice from some of the footage, the landing pads are quite huge on the landing legs and the ladder s far away from the surface. there was a lot of concern of, how much will this lander sink into the surface? how fluffy is this regolith? the surface is fine and powdery. i can.| can pick it up loosely with my toe. in fact, it s because the eagle lander didn t sink in as much as expected that neil armstrong had to take such a giant leap from the bottom rung of the ladder. today, swamp works is developing robots that can cope with and take advantage of lunar soil. and it will be very useful. see, moon dust is made of materials like silicon dioxide and calcium oxide, which all contain a lot of oxygen. if we could mine the regolith and use chemical processes to extract the oxygen, we could make our own breathable air and our own rocket fuel. the way space flight exploration has been working right now is imagine you re going on a holiday with your family, you re going on a long road trip, thousands of miles, right? right now, we are bringing a trailer behind us with all the gas, you know, that we need with us, all the fuel, everything that we need comes with us. so we want to change that paradigm. we want to. and one of the biggest things that makes the biggest impact is the fuel, right? if we can source some of that from the moon and eventually from mars, that will allow us to bring more and to go more often. making our own fuel makes regular trips to and from the gateway space station much more viable. now, mining moon dust is called isru. and, because they love an acronym round these parts, the robot to do this will be called the isru pilot excavator, ipex. we had to really reinvent how you do excavation for doing mining on the moon, and eventually mars. the challenge is the technology we have for mining here on earth relies on a lot of mass and a lot of weight, right? the more steel you put on an excavator, the heavier it becomes and the better it digs. we can t launch something as heavy as we want on a rocket. it s still very expensive, right? so we have to reduce the mass of what we put on rockets. and then when you land it on the moon, it weighs one sixth of what it does here on earth, right? imagine, like, trying to dig as if you were on ice, right? it will just scoot across the surface. the scoop will not engage and you won t be able to collect anything. so the way the robot scoops up the dust is using this thing called a bucket drum. and it s got a kind of spiral in there. and if it turns it one way, it scoops the soil, which gradually works its way towards the middle and stays there. like that. and then when it wants to unload. ..it turns it the other way and it all comes out again. we put them on opposite ends of the robot and when it excavates, it s using both sets of drums at the same time, but they re digging in opposite directions. so one is pulling it that way and one is pulling it that way. right. ..and pulling itself down to the surface. yeah. one of the main dangers faced by extraterrestrial rovers is getting stuck. so, as an added bonus, ipex s scoops and arms can also help it to get out of a hole orflip it over if it takes a tumble. one of its other defences will keep its cameras free from all that electrostatic dust, which will cling to every part of it. its lenses will be fitted with an electrodynamic dust shield. simply apply electricity and the charged dust particles are repelled, keeping its vision clear. but after a while of going to and fro, we might want to stay a little longer on the surface. robots like this one will prepare the ground for permanent buildings by smoothing and compacting the foundations. do you have a name for this arm? um. we call it. we call it meercat, actually. you ve always got cool names for these things! yeah. why? it s called the multipurpose end effector for regolith acquisition. meercat. .. ..transportation and. yeah, yeah, that s it. you see, what worries me is there are some brilliant inventions you guys haven t bothered with because you couldn t think of a cool acronym. a cool name. that is like one of the. it s very important to have a good name for your projects because it, like, represents the soul of the project, right? now, just like the fuel situation, we can t take building materials with us to the moon either we have to make our structures from moon dust. these bricks and blocks and bars have all been made by mixing and melting regolith with plastic. in the future, giant sd printers will build shelters to protect those living on a world with no atmosphere from radiation, asteroid and micrometeoroid impacts, moonquakes and temperatures ranging from +100 to 200 degrees celsius. even replacement parts can be made from regolith. so this is a wheel that has been printed with regolith and polymer. ok. this is another example of what we can do if we capture the resources from the moon. now, do you know, i ve seen and held wheels for rovers before, full size wheels, and they re really light. right. but this is really heavy. yes, this is the opposite. because those wheels that are light, especially if you re sending it on a rocket, they need to be light because it s expensive. this is heavy because it s made on the moon. and heavy wheels are a good thing, i guess. it s better, right? especially for a digger like that. like the more weight that we have on the excavator, the better it s going to perform. would you believe you can even make rope out of regolith? this is made from basalt glass really, really thin fibres, a bit like optic fibre. so you could even make rope out of moon dust. these are hopeful times for space exploration, but it s always been a risky endeavour. im i odysseus lunar lander separation confirmed. this year, we ve seen three probes sent to the moon. two made it, and both of those had, shall we say, awkward landings. and the artemis mission to put boots back on the lunar ground has been pushed back to 2026 at the earliest. but nasa says space explorers need to take these setbacks in their stride. i don t see it as a disappointment. it s very cliche to say space is hard, but what we re endeavouring to do is highly complex. we expect challenges along the way so this doesn t surprise us and we re pushing forward. it sounds really expensive to do space exploration. is it, and is it worth it? so, yes, it s really expensive. it was really expensive for us to explore this planet, really expensive to lay rail infrastructure, to lay highway infrastructure, to put the infrastructure in place that allows us to travel in air traffic around this globe. it s absolutely necessary for us to lay that critical infrastructure for going to space, because what we learn in that endeavour is tremendous. the exponential growth that we ve seen in the world in technology is because of great endeavours like this. it s absolutely worth it. here in the united states, every year the general population is spending as much money on potato chips as our budget is every year to go out to the moon. that s a good figure. the motivation may be different to that of the space race of the 1960s, but the size of the ambition is just as great today as we shoot for the moon once again. i m alistair keane with this week s tech news. google has confirmed it s started restricting election related questions on its ai chatbot gemini. if a user asks the chatbot about a political party or candidate, it would tell them to try google search instead. they started rolling out the measure in india. the plan is to expand to other countries where big elections are taking place. the european parliament has approved the world s first framework for regulating the risks of artificial intelligence. the ai act works by classifying products according to risk and adjusting scrutiny accordingly. the law s creators say it will make the tech more human centric. however, the act still has to pass several more steps before it formally becomes law. a surgical team at cromwell hospital in london have come the first in europe to use applevision pro to perform two microsurgery spine procedures. with xx software, the apple headset allowed some in the team to have touch free access when assessing up the surgery and offered them visualisations that were previously unavailable. and fancy wearing sunglasses that can quickly swipe to become reading glasses? well, deep optics have you covered with their newly created 32n glasses. users can transition between the two settings thanks to liquid crystal lenses. they contain pixels and tiny electronic controls. i never dreamed that i could become an astronaut. i m talking to kayla barron. ..one time resident of the international space station and now part of the artemis crew, the team who are preparing to go back to the moon. first time i looked out the window of our capsule. ..i6 sunrises and sunsets each day over our beautiful planet, really fundamentally feeling this interconnectedness. everything each one of us does has an impact on the people, notjust immediately around us, but on the entire planet. that inspired me to be really deliberate about, what contribution am i going to make to leave a better, healthier, more connected, more cooperative planet? what inspired you to become an astronaut? i did decide from a pretty early age that i wanted to serve in the military, and ultimately found my way to the naval academy and to the navy and to the submarine force in particular. and i met an astronaut at a navy football game, and hearing her story just reminded me so much of my experience on the submarine. and all of a sudden it clicked in my head, wow, the international space station is a submarine in space. and i told her that and she said, it totally is. it s exactly the same. you have these really complex machines out in these extreme environments that are designed to keep human beings alive in a place we re not meant to be, really, which is deep under the surface of the ocean or in the vacuum of space, and notjust keep us alive, but also allow us to accomplish a mission, do something as a team that s of value to others. what do you think it might be like to live on the moon and then mars? well, the moon is beautiful from the space station, first of all. when the sun is reflecting off this sphere, it s notjust.you know, a crescent moon, a sliver in the sky. it felt like you could just reach out and grab it, and i think made me realise how incredible it is going to be to send human beings back. and there s incredible scientific questions we re going to be able to answer. we re planning to return to the moon, but this time, to the lunar south pole. so we ll be exploring a different area than we visited during the apollo era. answer some really fundamental questions not only about the moon s formation and its geology, but about our entire solar system. you are part of the artemis team. the artemis 3 crew is the one, i suppose, that everyone wants to be on, cos i think that s the one where the people are going to stand on the moon. are you in with a chance of being on artemis 3? of course. everyone in our office dreams of the opportunity to be part of those crews. you wait and hope. but the really cool thing is even if you re not in that seat on the flight, you get to support them and be a part of the team that makes that happen. the artemis 3 mission, they will put the first woman and the first person of colour on the moon. i m guessing that those two people will become as famous as neil armstrong. put yourself in her shoes, even if it s not you. what would that represent for you? for humankind? you know, i think that moment will really represent how far we ve come. you know, we did amazing things in the apollo era, but not everyone had the access to those opportunities. there have been women in the nasa astronaut office for a really long time doing really incredible things. so we ll be standing on those women s shoulders. the first woman to command a space shuttle, the first to do a spacewalk, the first to command the space station. and when we look around at the diversity of our office, it s really incredible, like, who we have around us. it will be this incredible, historic, iconic moment that i think young women and girls around the planet will look to as an example of the fact that you can do anything if you work hard and are supported by the systems, the communities around you to have an opportunity to achieve those goals. you might have seen space food before. but what about space plants? if nasa wants its astronauts to stay out in space for longer, they ll need to be able to replenish their own food supply. this is nothing new. astronauts have been growing crops in space for the past a0 years. but there s still an awful lot that scientists are trying to learn about space farming. we have things like radiation that we have to deal with. we also have issues with microgravity. plants have learned how to detect gravity with their roots and gravity sensing organelles in the plants, and so they know how to use these cues. and without these cues, they have to re adapt to this environment. so, without gravity, the next cue that they use is light. so, how to go up and down, how to orient themselves is based on light now, cos they don t have gravity. water behaves very differently in microgravity. it has a high surface tension, so it likes to cling. and when the water clings to the roots, it prevents the roots from breathing. and so the plants can experience things like drought stress. they mayjust look green to you and me, but plants appear very different when viewed in the infrared and ultraviolet parts of the spectrum. and the scientists here are learning how their appearance changes under different types of stress. here in the plant processing area, we re giving the plants a stressor. so, in this case, we re reducing its watering. because on the station, we know it s difficult to water. and so we can identify through our imaging project, using infrared and visible light, as well as fluorescence, that stress. we take all this data and to make that association we use machine learning. then we can associate the wavelengths that are most indicative of that stress and include them in a camera that would monitor the plants on station. this is where the plants live when they get up there. the veggie unit. this is how they grow stuff on the international space station? yep. it s a simple led system, as well as a bellows, so it s open to the crew environment. we have two of these and six plants each. so you can imagine we re not making a huge feast, but it s enough for a nice serving of lettuce. lovely salad. yeah. how excited are the astronauts that they can now have salad and not just space food? they re very grateful. they can have salad, we ve grown peppers as well, and they can even have flowers cos we ve grown zinnia on space. now, there is a knack to getting these seeds to sprout in space. the way you grow plants on the international space station is using this, which is a plant pillow. so, this is the wick that sucks the moisture up. you plug your water source into here and you fill the bottom with soil, and then you get your tiny seeds, which stay in these polymer wrappers so they don t zip off and you lose them around the iss. and you pop it in here, and 28 days later. ..get yourself a lettuce. aside from the obvious benefits of creating a renewable food source, there are all sorts of other advantages to growing plants in space. gardening is very therapeutic. it s something that the astronauts would say, hey, you know, let me take care of something green. it makes them happy. plants produce oxygen and they recycle waste, they recycle water. all this fundamental stuff together will make them a very important organism to take with us. when we re living on the moon and when we re living on mars, what type of plants will we be eating? we would like to have things like nuts and citrus, but, again, there s still so much we don t know about how those plants adapt to the environment. the current goal is to use hydroponic systems, which rely on water based nutrient solutions instead of soil, which is heavy and expensive to transport. but in 2022, scientists showed that plants can grow in lunar soil, regolith. which kind of brings us full circle in a way, doesn t it? if we want to live on new worlds, we need to use the resources that they provide us instead of taking more from our home planet. this has been a fascinating trip to nasa, a place which will one day help us put builders, miners, and even farmers on the moon. hello there. it s been a pretty decent start to the weekend. there was a good deal of sunshine around across most of the country. a bit of cloud here and there, a few showers, mostly in the north. part two of the weekend doesn t look quite as good. it will start sunny, quite chilly. but we ve got a couple of weather fronts pushing down from the northwest that will increase cloud through the day, with some splashes of rain. now, we ve got this weather front approaching the northwest of the country to move through this evening. showers merging together to produce longer spells of rain for the north and west of scotland. so unsettled, breezy, showery in the north, turning cloudier for northern ireland, but clearer skies for large parts of england and wales, with lighter winds here. so it will turn chilly for most. single digits, i think, for the majority of the country. but with more cloud across northern ireland, we will fall to around 10 degrees in belfast. so, sunday, then, we ve got low pressure still towards the norwegian sea there, bringing northern westerly winds into the country. we start off with quite a bit of sunshine. scotland, england and wales, cloudy skies for northern ireland, southwest scotland, in towards northwest england, north wales. and that cloud, with splashes of rain, will spill southeastwards through the day. so it will turn cloudy across much of england and wales, probably the best of the sunshine across the far southwest, and the northern half of scotland doing pretty well, with sunny spells. but there will be blustery showers here and a cooler day to come, i think, because of more cloud around temperatures of about 12 to 17 degrees. as we move through sunday night, that area of rain splashes across the irish sea, into much of england and wales, becomes confined to southern and eastern areas by the end of the night. so where we have the cloud and the rain, then, a less cold night here, 10 to 12 degrees under clearer skies. further north, it will turn chilly. we start to pick up a northerly wind as we move into monday. that rain slowly clears away from the south and east. it may take a while to clear the east of england. eventually, it will do. then it s a bright day for most, sunshine and showers. most of these across the northern half of scotland, where they will be quite blustery and a chilly northerly wind at that. temperatures, 10 to 14 degrees in the north, 15 to 17 further south, giving some sunny spells. and we hold on to this chilly northerly wind through tuesday, even into wednesday as well. before low pressure starts to move in from the southwest, that ll cut off the chilly northerly and temperatures will slowly recover towards the end of the week. but it s going to be a fairly unsettled and a cool week to come, with a little bit of sunshine here and there. good morning and welcome breakfast. their headlines today: the most senior diplomat in the eu has condemned the killing of palestinians in an israeli operation to rescue four hostages. the mission was to bring home the captive held in gaza since the hamas attacks, eight months ago. election campaigning continues across the country ahead of a key week in which parties will set out their manifestoes. thousands of motorcyclists arrived at the end of a mammoth right from london to cumbria. and in sport, joyful we go in a day of commemoration at wembley where rob burrow was paid tribute to, ahead of their challenge cup final. a sunny start for many of you, a more cloud, increasing, thickening and patchy rain as well. details on breakfast. good morning. the main story, israel has been criticised by the european union s matheny diplomat over the key kneeling of dozens of palestinians in an operation to rescue four hostages in gaza yesterday. josep borrell called the report another massacre of civilians. a

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about peace and security. south africa has punished its ruling party for 30 years of failing government. but how does the chastened anc now select partners for the way forward? it is highly expected that the african national congress will come up with a coalition, even though it will be uneasy, but one that will be manageable. and immigration the great issue in so many of the 60 plus elections which are taking place around the world this year how does it affect us? we live in a much more globalised world. it s easier to travel. that has, you know, created movements of people around the planet which are presenting real challenges for governments. news reel: the allied | invasion of europe from the west is launched 0-day the start of d day 80 years ago was heralded by the broadcast of a couple of lines from a verlaine poem, ordering a particular french resistance circuit to start blowing up railway lines. very soon, british, american, canadian, free french and other troops stormed ashore to start the recapture of europe from the nazis. this anniversary seems like a good moment to look at where our world is today. the west in visible decline, russia fighting a war of aggression in europe, china stamping out ideological opposition wherever it can. rightly or wrongly, there s starting to be a kind of pre warfeeling about our times. allan little is the bbc s special correspondent. he s reported on many of the major events of the past 35 years. i think we re definitely in a period of anxiety and fear, and i think the change of policy in russia in february 2022 realigned the world. you and i lived through the revolutions of 1989, which saw the reunification of europe. so, the period of peace that we ve enjoyed over the last 80 years is certainly more fragile than it s been at any time during our lives, john. donald tusk of poland, for instance, the british defence secretary, grant shapps, and plenty of others talking about no longer being in a post war world, but in a pre war world. the threat of a resurgent, imperialist russia is very real. the collapse of the westernising, democratising experiment in post soviet russia amounted to one question what are the political consequences of this degree of destitution and humiliation that the russians were experiencing in the late 1990s? we knew what russia was in transition from. we didn t yet know what russia was in transition to. well, we know the answer now. the answer is that russia reverted to type, if you like. undeeradimir putin, it became authoritarian, dictatorial, and it s allied with changes in china and changes in iran and elsewhere. so, the world is reordering itself in quite a menacing way. do you feel that the 80th anniversary of the d day landings, which is where all of this started, we re now shifting to deep nervousness, instead ofjust patting ourselves on the back, as we have on most d day anniversaries? with the 80th anniversary, we ve lost the living testimony. there s now almost nobody left alive. and i think it s very important to remember notjust what they did in 191m and 1945, but the kind of europe they came home to build after the war. and they wanted a europe that would turn the page on centuries of division in europe. france and germany had gone to war with each other something like four times in the previous century. in 1945, they wanted to build a europe where that wasn t possible any more. where are we, say, in comparison with the past? this is a period of huge anxiety. i feel anxiety myself. you and i have seen war up close. we ve seen genocide up close. we know what it looks like. we know what it sounds like. we know what it smells like. and ifear, in western europe in particular, the danger of complacency. and i think that europe divides on this question as well, between the west and east. one of the things that s happened since 1989 is that eastern europe now, which initially welcomed in 1989, welcomed the westernising process, welcomed being brought into the european union, there is a populist drive in many of these eastern and central european countries against westernisation. they feel that the western model has been imposed upon them, or sufficient numbers of the population feel a western model that they don t recognise, don t feel comfortable with. .. the iconic figure of that position is viktor orban, in hungary, who has said himself that he wants a kind of illiberal democracy. seems to me the big danger is complacency, is saying, we re not living in 1913. we re not living in 1938. we might be. can it really be that europe s whole future, everything has turned around because of one man s attitudes, because of vladimir putin solely deciding to invade ukraine and so on? or are there bigger principles behind him? under him, russia reverted to type, if you like, went back to the imperialism and the authoritarianism that had characterised both tsarist russia and communist russia. and so there is an appetite in russia for this kind of. self definition, this kind of.this characterisation of the nature of the russian state. and i suspect that what we re doing now is walking along the edge of the razor blade, but that at some stage, we ll get over it. what are you, are you pessimistic or optimistic? i err towards pessimism these days, john. even today, 80 years on, the europeans still think of that moment, that 1944 45 moment, in very, very different terms and still think of the post war decades in which they built the institutions of european democracy. they think about them differently to the british. for the british, it was a transactional. it was about trade. scratch away at the surface of european sentiment, european sensibility, what you find is anxiety about peace and security, rather than trade and the economy. and i think that is rooted in the different experience of the 1940s. south africa has marked the 30th anniversary of majority rule with an election which has cut the african national congress, the party of nelson mandela, down to size. crime, corruption, the failure of basic services, like power and water, have infuriated huge numbers of south africans. even though mk the breakaway party of the man who symbolises corruption for many people, former presidentjacob zuma actually did very well. contrary to expectation, the economic freedom fighters, under their fiery leader, julius malema, faded badly, while the democratic alliance, which runs the western cape and is usually called business friendly, which means it gets the support of most white people, held its position with 21% of the vote but didn t noticeably thrive. so, now the anc has lost its overall majority, president cyril ramaphosa, an instinctive moderate, has to decide which of these groups to form a coalition with. i asked nomsa maseko, the bbc s southern africa correspondent, what she thought about the result. absolutely shocked at the loss of the african national congress, but not really surprised, because it was expected. people of south africa have grown tired of promises made and not kept. they are tired of high levels of violent crime, unemployment, the rolling blackouts which have crippled the economy, the day to day service delivery issues, like running water, you know, and the collection of rubbish, things like that, even though they are loyal to the anc government because of the history that south africa has in terms of, you know, apartheid. they know and appreciate what the anc and other liberation movements did for them back then. but this is a message by south africans to say that the honeymoon is over for the anc. but surely cyril ramaphosa cannot go into a coalition with jacob zuma or his people? there are people within the executive council of the anc that are saying that cyril ramaphosa, as president of this country and president of the anc, should resign from his position because this is the lowest point that the anc has ever got in, in terms of election results. in the last elections in 2019, the anc got about 57% of the vote, and this time around, they re barely holding on to a 40% majority. how likely is it that cyril ramaphosa can do some kind of deal with another party, oranother couple of parties? the democratic alliance, for instance. the anc acknowledges that there will be concessions that they have to make if they want to continue to lead, if cyril ramaphosa is to continue as president of the country. because if not, then the anc will have to sit in the opposition benches and allow the other parties to form a coalition and then govern, which is at this stage highly unlikely. but the democratic alliance has said that it is willing to go into a coalition with the african national congress, but in that there s going to be, you know, clashes in terms of policy and ideology because the democratic alliance is pro israel, the anc is pro palestine, the democratic alliance is also against the policy of black economic empowerment. and that will be a hard pill to swallow for the anc, which is trying with that policy to fix the wrongs of the past. and, of course, the democratic alliance is seen, rightly or wrongly, as being a white run party, isn t it? absolutely. south africans, even though they know that it s been 30 years into democracy, they still have the memories of what it was like not to be in control of their lives, of their economy, of where they go and not go. so there s a lot of misgivings. now, the one name that we haven t mentioned here isjulius malema, of the economic freedom fighters. and they did really quite badly, didn t they? they are now officially the fourth, you know, party, biggest party. but, you know, julius malema delivered one of his most modest speeches when he said that he believes that the electorate has decided what they wanted. but also, he believes that the economic freedom fighters received the votes of the black middle class. and he believes that they will still be able to continue, you know, to be in the opposition benches, but also, there could be a chance that the african national congress itself would want to form a coalition with the economic freedom fighters. will we have a government soon, or in the medium term, or is it going to take forever? in the next, say, 20 days after these coalition, you know, negotiations have taken place. parliament needs to sit before the end ofjune, and that is where a president is going to have to be appointed. and it is highly expected that the african national congress will come up with a coalition, even though it will be uneasy, but one that will be manageable. poor mexico, so far from god and so close to the united states. the rueful words of the 19th century mexican dictator porfirio diaz. things have got even worse since then. floods of illegal migrants from all over latin america pass through mexico on their way to the us, and the drugs cartels smuggle immense quantities of synthetic opioids to the huge and growing american market. the drugs trade made this the most violent presidential campaign ever in mexico. 102 political assassinations, as well as kidnappings and attempted murders. and yet, in all this, claudia sheinbaum, the former mayor of mexico city and a joint nobel prize winner for her work on climate change, won a landslide victory. the first woman to become mexico s president. she is the protege of the popular outgoing president, andres manuel lopez 0brador, who s known from his initials as amlo. but can claudia sheinbaum, even with amlo s support, sort out mexico s problems? and what was the cause of the landslide anyway? i turned to daniel pardo, of bbc mundo, in mexico city. andres manuel lopez 0brador, the current president who s been in power for the last six years. and he s managed to have people happy, really. increasing their salaries, poverty has been reduced from 40% to 36% average. 0bviously, violence is still a problem. insecurity is a huge problem for people. sheinbaum has become or was a very. a candidate that gave people the idea that those policies that enlarge their pockets are still going to be in place. that, added to the fact that the opposition is fragmented, divided, that they are trying to attack a very popular president who had to deal with the pandemic, still has 60% of people s support that s a huge number for a latin american president. but it does sound from what you say as though amlo, lopez 0brador, will want to keep a foot in politics, will want to control her, if he can. that s the question that everyone s asking at the moment. how is she going to govern? how autonomous is she going to be? their relationship. although they are part of the same movement, they have major differences. it s not only about their background, they come from different sort of lefts, because amlo is part of this old left in mexico that s very rooted in the revolution, that is very nationalist. it s very traditional in their economic and especially development ideas. sheinbaum, she s a physicist, who went to university. she has got a phd. she s an expert in climate change. she was part of a team who won the nobel prize because of their contribution to climate change studies. she s a woman, right, in a very macho country. and that s why everyone s asking, how is she going to be autonomous and how much is he going to control her? he has said and promised that he s going to retire, that he s going to go to his farm, and he s not going to be involved in politics. this election campaign, in particular, has been very violent, hasn t it? and there s all the question about the drugs trade with the united states and so on. so, violence is still a major problem. the six years in which amlo was in power were the most violent in history, in terms of homicides. and, yes, this campaign killed at least a0 candidates who were running for office in different parts of the country. so, yeah, violence, it is a problem. however, i think most mexicans have got used to it and have realised that that s not a problem that any government, one single government, one single politician, could fix. people are happy because their pockets are filled with money and they re being able to consume as much as they want. this is a very dynamic economy. the choice that americans are going to make in the united states is going to have such an effect on mexico, isn t it? most of mexican foreign policy is regarding the us, either if it s a democrat or a republican. 0bviously, trump did. emerge with the different issues, but it wasn t that different, really. i mean, you see the relationship that he had with amlo. it was a very pragmatic relationship. obviously, it s a huge source of income for mexicans. a huge portion of the gdp here in mexico has to do with money that mexicans in the united states send to theirfamilies here in mexico. it s a tricky relationship, but at the end, pragmatism does take place and does make the rule of the relationship, no matter who is in power. big countries have attracted immigrants throughout history. there are always people who want to better themselves financially, and there are always large amounts ofjobs to fill which local people don t want to do. but in the modern world, with wars and the effects of global heating, immigration has become a majorforce for social change. entire cities have been transformed as a result of the hostility which this can create. it has been responsible in many countries for the rise of an angry populism. i asked the bbc home affairs specialist mark easton for his views on the changes that immigration has brought to modern society. you have to understand, we live in a much more globalised world. it s easier to travel from one place to another, and that has changed things and also our understanding of the world. and i think that has, you know, created movements of people around the planet which, as you rightly say, are presenting real challenges for governments. there was this extraordinary movement of people back in the noughties, after the expansion of the eu. we saw all the poles come in. suddenly, actually, britain was experiencing immigration in a way it never had before. that, i think, changed the way that a lot of communities felt about immigration. it had not been something they d experienced before. and then i think you should wind the clock on and you get to brexit. and that, i think, was to a significant extent about communities who felt that they had not been informed about what was going to happen. and, of course, what we ve seen, almost as soon as the ink was dry on the brexit final deal, immigration soared. i mean, notjust soared, john, but went to levels that we have never, ever experienced in this country. if you go back to 2022, we saw three quarters of a million net migration to this country. so, i think given that there is now rising anxiety about, actually, do we have control of our borders? which matters a lot. and are we making the right decisions on when we bring people in? and that leads you into the other bit of all of this, which is what the government calls illegal migration, a term which is contested, i should say, but certainly irregular migration. so, these are people who are. like, for instance, those coming over in small boats or hiding in the back of lorries, and they are coming principally to seek asylum in the united kingdom. that, just to give you some context, represents about 6% of all the migration that we have. so, the rest is legal? the rest is legal. the government has invited those people to come to the uk, has given them a visa and said, in you come. yeah, we ve got a job for you. this is, what, to be nurses? care workers and nurses. doctors? doctors. i mean, i know zimbabwe very well, where nurses are really needed, and doctors. of course. ..and bringing them here, to a rich country. notjust the uk, but other european nations, sort of absorbing vast numbers of key workers who are actually required desperately in their countries of origin. now, to some extent, this is about, you know, the freedom of the individual to decide how they want to pursue their career. but equally, i think there is a responsibility on the rich countries to ensure that they re not impoverishing the countries from which these people come. and here is the real rub. if you want to reduce immigration and not have to pay the really significant penalty of not having anyone to care for your ailing grandmother, we re going to have to pay more. and that means that money is going to have to come from somewhere, and it essentially means you cut something else or you put up taxes. and that is the unpalatable reality that we have got ourselves in a situation where we are prepared to bring in large numbers of people to do jobs at low rates that local people are not prepared to do. but an awful lot of people are coming in from countries which are just simply poorer. and they want the kind of salaries that are paid in britain, but also, in western europe and the us. there is a huge debate, political debate, certainly, about, what is an economic migrant? what is a genuine asylum seeker? where you have conflict, the countries that border that conflict, i m sure you will have been to many of them, are suddenly overwhelmed by huge numbers of refugees. they haven t got the resources. they re often poor countries themselves, trying to deal with these. how do we have a fair, equitable system that means that those countries are not penalised, really, purely by their geography, while rich countries further away can say, nothing to do with us ? mark easton, speaking to me here in london. we re getting punch drunk, aren t we, with elections? there s the south african one and the mexican one, which we ve heard about in this programme. the european parliament elections begin this week. and there s the indian one, of course. and injuly, we ll have the british one. nigel farage, who played a big part in persuading britain to vote for brexit in 2016, has thrown a hand grenade into the election campaign here by announcing he was taking over the leadership of the small reform party and would stand for parliament, despite having lost seven parliamentary campaigns over the years. and of course, there s the united states, where the election result could genuinely change the future of the world. lots of media experts think that donald trump s conviction on 3a charges of falsifying his accounts to hide the hush money he paid the porn actress stormy daniels has nudged the pendulum an inch or so injoe biden s favour. but we re likely to have televised debates, in which literally anything could happen between two ancient men of 77 and 81. i m just weeks away from turning 80 myself, so i m allowed to say all this. at which point, everyone, everywhere wonders how a country as vast and talented as the us can only turn up a couple of men like biden and trump for the presidency. but that s a story for another day. thank you for being with us for this edition of unspun world. from me and the unspun team, until we meet again, goodbye. hello there. it s been a pretty decent start to the weekend. there was a good deal of sunshine around across most of the country. a bit of cloud here and there, a few showers, mostly in the north. part two of the weekend doesn t look quite as good. it will start sunny, quite chilly. but we ve got a couple of weather fronts pushing down from the north west that will increase cloud through the day, with some splashes of rain. now, we ve got this weather front approaching the north west of the country to move through this evening. showers merging together to produce longer spells of rain for the north and west of scotland. so unsettled, breezy, showery in the north, turning cloudier for northern ireland, but clearer skies for large parts of england and wales, with lighter winds here. so it will turn chilly for most. single digits, i think, for the majority of the country. but with more cloud across northern ireland, we will fall to around ten degrees in belfast. so sunday, then, we ve got low pressure still towards the norwegian sea there, bringing northern westerly winds into the country. we start off with quite a bit of sunshine. scotland, england and wales. cloudy skies for northern ireland, south west scotland, in towards north west england, north wales. and that cloud, with splashes of rain, will spill south eastwards through the day. so it will turn cloudy across much of england and wales. probably the best of the sunshine across the far south west, and the northern half of scotland doing pretty well, with sunny spells. but there will be blustery showers here. and a cooler day to come, i think, because of more cloud around temperatures of about 12 to 17 degrees. as we move through sunday night, that area of rain splashes across the irish sea, into much of england and wales, becomes confined to southern and eastern areas by the end of the night. so where we have the cloud and the rain, then, a less cold night here, 10 to 12 degrees under clearer skies. further north, it will turn chilly. we start to pick up a northerly wind as we move into monday. that rain slowly clears away from the south and east. it may take a while to clear the east of england. eventually, it will do. then it s a bright day for most, sunshine and showers. most of these across the northern half of scotland, where they will be quite blustery and a chilly northerly wind at that. temperatures, 10 to 1a degrees in the north, 15 to 17 further south, giving some sunny spells. and we hold on to this chilly northerly wind through tuesday, even into wednesday as well. before low pressure starts to move in from the south west, that ll cut off the chilly northerly and temperatures will slowly recover towards the end of the week. but it s going to be a fairly unsettled and a cool week to come, with a little bit of sunshine here and there. live from washington. this is bbc news. four israeli hostages abducted by hamas last october reunited with their families after israeli forces freed them from captivity in gaza. hamas reports more than 200 palestinians were killed in the raid by the idf. two hospitals say they have counted scores of bodies. we ll have the latest from the general election campaign as the conservatives are pledging tax cuts and labour promises to help small businesses. hello, i m helena humphrey. four israeli hostages taken by hamas during the october 7th attacks have now been reunited with their families. but israeli forces in gaza killed scores of palestinians in the military operation to free them. israeli special forces raided two locations in nuseirat, in central gaza in broad daylight. 0ne israeli soldier was killed. hamas says more than 200 palestinians were killed in the operation. an israeli military spokesman said there were under100 palestinian casualties. the eu s top diplomat condemned the israeli raid. the us 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and of course, he s trying to become president of america again and the other is about the business models of news, because they are under ever more pressure. and when it comes to the business model, we are also looking at al and journalism, because several news organisations have done recent deals with the big tech firms. so that is all coming up. on this week s programme, we re going to hearfrom andrew neil, who has a brand new show on times radio. he s also the chairman of the spectator group. and we rejoined by caroline waterston, the relatively new editor in chief of the daily mirror. yeah, we ve also got two guests coming out of the states one, katie notopoulos, who s the senior tech and business correspondent at business insider. but the first person we spoke to isjeffrey goldberg, who is editor in chief of the atlantic. and we started off by asking him just to sum up what the atlantic is. how is that even possible? on the rare. just in case people don t know, it s a 167 year old magazine founded in boston. 18. 1850s, before the civil war. politics, culture, literature, remains committed to those coverage areas today. but we try to explain america to itself to some degree. i think that s one of our purposes. we have a monthly magazine with a large subscriber base. we have a million subscribers, including digital subscribers. we reach a pretty wide array of people across the us and other parts of the english speaking world. and i think i m right in saying you re privately owned by emerson collective, which is an organisation set up by laurene powelljobs, widow of the apple founder steve jo bs. just explain to us how that works. yeah. laurene and emerson collective bought the atlantic seven years ago. it works, knock on wood, wonderfully well. she s a great owner. we have complete editorial independence. she s very supportive of the mission, as is the whole organisation. we re a for profit organisation, although emerson collective has a for profit and a not for profit, separate wings. we are profitable on our own, which is a good thing and fairly rare these days. i m just thinking about. i ve been thinking about the washington post a lot of the last couple of days. well, we definitely want to ask you about some of the announcements at the washington post. and we want to ask you about your route to profitability, because that was one of the reasons we were so interested to have you on the programme. before we get into the details of what you ve done at the atlantic, i just, with katie s help as well, and a guest who sjoining us, want to put what the atlantic is trying to do and what all publications in the news arena are trying to do in some context. yes, because katie notopoulos is from business insider, and ijust thought it d be useful if she just gave us a recap on the structural problems facing the industry. because, katie, you know, as has already been mentioned, much of this comes back to advertising, doesn t it? right. so one of the biggest problems isjust that| digital advertising, - which was what supported journalism for many decades or centuries, has sort- of dried up. facebook and google are very effective at being digital- advertisers, and they ve just sucked up a lot of the ad - dollars out there. so if you re a brand i like pepsi, it s easier to put your dollars somewhere else than to run an ad - in a publication. and that has really affected . the industry across the board. and you obviously. there s a lot of other| factors going on, just the rise of digital, - and therefore print is not as popular as it used to be. but i think. you know, there are some bright i spots, and there s reason to be i hopeful about the state - ofjournalism and being able to sustain media businesses. katie, thank you. jeffrey goldberg from the atlantic, let s bring you back in. you launched your online paywall in 2019. tell us about that decision and what s happened since. yeah, well, it turned out to be excellent timing, because the pandemic hit the next year and advertising bottomed out. we re holding our own on advertising. we have good people doing it. and, you know, it s not going to be the primary source of revenue for this company going into the future. we ve switched, actually, since 2019. we re now majority. you know, the bulk of our revenue comes from subscriptions, the consumer business, not advertising, but advertising is still an important part. but we launched this paywall. i mean, obviously, we re a print. we ve been a print magazine since the 1850s. we ve had long experience of being a subscription based organisation. when we entered the internet in a big way in the mid 90s, late 90s, obviously programmatic ad revenue, other forms of advertising, became huge for us. but we finally decided, the company finally decided in 2019 to launch a paywall for a digital product. and thank god we did, because a combination of pandemic news and trump news really accelerated our growth in the next couple of years. and that brought us, we just crossed a million subscribers total. half of those. roughly half of those subscribers are print and digital and half roughly half are digital only. all news organisations are diversifying the type of content that they re making. i wonder, aside from the trademark atlantic long articles which many people will know, what else you offer digital subscribers? well, we have a daily report. you know, we re not building a second newsroom, or a third newsroom in the washington post case, for tiktok videos or whatever it is that they re doing. you don t sound overly impressed, jeffrey. no, i m just feeling generally dyspeptic today. so you re just getting. just getting a general vibe. hopefully, that s nothing to do with you coming on the media show! god, no. glad to hear it. just checking. this is the only meeting i m looking forward to today. sorry, we interrupted you. no, no, no. it s ok. i d rather make jokes than talk about the business ofjournalism. i think that. so when i started as editor eight years ago, you know, all i wanted to do, and i have, you know, laurene s100% backing on this, make highest qualityjournalism, because highest quality journalism is the only thing that people will pay for. you know, if we had put all of our eggs in the programmatic ad revenue basket, we d be in bad shape, and so on. and so i think doubling down on what you do best, and doubling down on making a unique. unique stories that people will actually pay you for to read is the way to go. and so we have a much more. you know, obviously, 30 years ago, before the internet, the atlantic came out, it was a, you know, more leisurely paced thing. today, we publish every day. we publish, you know, every hour in busy times. but we re still trying to maintain that level of quality and differentiation so that we can convince readers to become subscribers. i m going to pause you there, sorry, just to bring in andrew neil, because some of this with your spectator hat on must be sounding quite familiar. jeffrey s talking about a million subscribers. how. you re a subscription model as well? we are a subscription model. the spectator has about 100,000 subscribers in the uk, 20,000 in america, because we just launched there, and about 12,000 in australia. if you get the business model right, the digital age can be a golden age forjournalism and publications like atlantic monthly and the spectator. but you need to get it right, and you need to realise that the old business models will bankrupt you. so when i took over the spectator in 2005, 65% of our revenues came from advertising. today, it s less than 10%. advertising is only our third biggest revenue stream. we ve had to seek new revenue streams. we put a very tough paywall up about 12, 14 years ago. 80% of our revenues now come from subscription. and it s a wonderful business model, because subscription revenues are predictable. i know within 5% plus or minus what s coming in this year, because i know the renewal rate, i know what the marketing will produce, and it s not subject to the economic cycle, unlike advertising, which is highly unpredictable. so you get that right and you re a golden age. the poster child of all this, of course, is the new york times, which now has nine million subscribers, more foreign correspondents than it s ever had in its history. and they got in early, didn t they? that was part of it. they got in early, as some of us did too. the times and the sunday times in this country are now highly profitable on the subscription model. and then you need to look, in addition to subscription revenue, for other streams of revenue, streams that you would never have thought of before. so, for example, of course, you still take some advertising. you take very little programmatic. because here s the problem if you re a subscription model, you re providing a premium website, and you don t want your website punctuated by endless ads for things that you have no control over. so you really need to control that. and you re talking about digital dimes in terms of programmatic, but instead, you do newsletters, you do podcasts, you have spectator tv and other ventures like that. and above all, our second biggest stream of revenue events. we do events that expand the brand and bring in a ton of money. 0k, caroline waterston, i want to bring you in because this presumably isn t sounding very familiar to you because it isn t something that you re doing at the mirror. have you ever thought about subscription? have you ever thought about a paywall? it s not on the mirror s agenda. i mean, certainly from my point of view and from the mirror s point of view, you know, i believe that our content should be available to a wide community and not just those that can afford it. you know, we are a news brand. i want to ensure that everyone has access to our content, and certainly it s not on our agenda. but what does that mean financially? you re taking a hit. do you believe. ? imean, are.? are you essentially of the belief that a paywall is this too dramatic, a paywall is a threat to democracy? is that how you see it? no, it s just not on our agenda at the moment. that s because it doesn t work. we talked. well. for red top tabloids, it doesn t work. the sun tried it and had to abandon it. you know, it s different with atlantic, spectator, times, sunday times, financial times. people are willing to pay. ..new york times. people are willing to pay for that kind ofjournalism. the problem with what we used to call the red top tabloids is that people won t pay for it digitally. of course, in the old days, they paid for it by putting their money down to buy the paper. but it seems that a lot of that kind of content, they think they can already get almost for free on the net. so they re not. it s a. of allthe. you know, all of our industry from the top to the bottom has had to withgo digital waves of change. the toughest part of the market to get right is the red top tabloid part of the market, because the subscription model doesn t work. caroline? yeah. and, look, good quality journalism is exactly what we want to do. but good quality journalism shouldn tjust be available to those that can afford to pay it. so, yes, we are an ad model. ads help fund. ..our journalism. and certainly. that s where we are at the moment. in terms of the experience of the user, the digital user of yourjournalism, do you have any concerns that the proliferation of adverts, which you need in order to fund the work you re doing, lessens the experience? look, it s something i think about every day, but, you know, ads are a part of life, and certainly from the mirror s point of view, we have to produce good quality journalism, and ads help us do that. 0k. let s bring you back in, jeffrey goldberg, because what about your experience in the us, particularly relating to donald trump, who we know back in 2016 drove huge levels of news and news related content consumption? are you seeing the same thing this time around? 2016 and 2020. i wouldn t say. well, first of all, we have a much tougher paywall, so that limits the sort of explosive numbers that you would have seen 2020, 2016, in particular. i think there s also fatigue. you know, these are. these are characters in now what would be called a long running drama, right? trump and biden as well. i think there is some fatigue with it. all that being said, yeah, there s. there s obviously an unusual election taking place. i m trying to use the most anodyne words possible. there s a consequential election taking place and people are. our kind of reader in particular is going to be very engaged in it. but, you know and i think this is a lesson from the washington post in a way you can tjust assume that political news will continually spike for you. i mean, you have to do the thing that s the right thing to do for your publication. it s mission first. and if you forget that, you re going to lose your subscribers eventually anyway. butl. we re not going to see the same crazy numbers that we saw in the past. but obviously, this is not a normal election. and trump does draw an extraordinary amount of attention. i want to ask you further about trump, but you ve alluded to the washington post a couple of times. we should say that on monday, sally buzbee, we heard, was leaving her role as the washington post s executive editor, to be replaced by robert winnett from the daily telegraph. and will lewis, who s the ceo of the washington post, said, we are losing large amounts of money. your audience. this is to staff. your audience has halved in recent years. people are not reading your stuff. i can t sugar coat it any more. so the washington post is looking to change its strategy. but coming back more broadly to donald trump, this is a question we ve asked a number of times on the media show over the years, but it doesn t make it any less pressing. you ve called the election consequential and unusual i m sure there are other words you would use, too. how do you, as the editor of a hugely consequential magazine and publication in the us, approach the challenge of covering donald trump? and i m interested to ask andrew and caroline the same question afterwards. you know, we. we had this problem in 2016, where we were trying to. you know, we were following the old rules, you know, to some degree, which is. and the old rules were the old rules of coverage, what people would call both sider ism. the old rules worked.when you had candidates who operated within certain lanes, lanes of self restraint, lanes of adherence to democratic norms, when candidates felt shame and repositioned themselves based on feedback, regarding the things that they do. you know, the most important thing for me, and, you know, we try to get it right, and a lot of other people are trying to get it right, and a lot of people are trying to catch up the most important thing is that we describe things plainly. right? not euphemise, because donald trump s behaviour is so novel i mean, it s not novel any more, but it s still novel historically and that. you know, and that we don t become. and this is what i m always encouraging our staff about. we don t normalise to this. our own, you know. oh, well, trumpjust said that, you know, the north korean dictator s head is made of cheese. oh, who cares? he always says stuff like that. no, and we have to do it every. we have to report the oddness, whenever it erupts, and that. by the way, this means. we re notjoining the resistance. we neverjoined the resistance, which means we also questionjoe biden s capacities, for instance. that s how you re approaching it at the atlantic. i wonderfor the daily mirror here in the uk, caroline, how do you.? do you approach donald trump like any other politician? or are there particular things you tell your colleagues look, we have to be careful here ? look, trump is an interesting character, but at the weekend, you ll hopefully have seen we actually had the world exclusive of stormy daniels, post everything that happened last week. and, you know, the content that comes out of trump in his everyday life and how he acts, i mean, it creates brilliant, brilliant content for our audience. that s honest. yeah. andrew, let me bring you in here now, because we have senior british executives at the wall streetjournal, the washington post, cnn and bloomberg news. what do you make of this exodus of senior british editors in the direction of the us? bbc too. mark thompson. mark thompson, former bbc. ..is at cnn and was at the new york times. of course, we always put ourselves down, but british journalism is vibrant and dynamic and hugely successful. and we know how to write and we know how to write concisely. well, not for the first time on the media show, we ve been talking about artificial intelligence, and the item that we re going to see now is all about search results that are being produced by new ai products. yeah, this is quite a fun one because google has got a new search called ai overview, a search product, and it is coming up in some cases with some pretty crazy results. and i started by asking katie notopoulos, who s the senior tech and business correspondent of business insider, tojust explain how it all works. so it s not on every single search, it s only on certain searches, typically ones that are sort of asking a specific question versus, you know, searching somebody s name or something like that. and it basically gives you a little bit of. maybe a couple sentences, a little paragraph, maybe a few bullet points that essentially answers your question. and this is probably very useful for most searches most of the time. but it was initially sort of riddled with laughable errors. i mean, one of the things that i do know that you did this really is dedication to yourjob you made a pizza with glue and ate it. just explain why you did that. slightly gimmicky. i m assuming it was for a piece. it was. piece of pizza! americanjournalists are ready. all in the line of duty. ..to undertake these big challenges. laughter. yeah, some people have to cover donald trump s trial. some people have to eat pizza with glue on it. right. basically sounds like i the same thing, really. exactly. laughter. one of the sort of silly answer that was going most viral on social media was someone had asked, how do i get the glued cheese to not slide off my pizza? and google suggested, you know, let the pizza cool for a while. and then it also said, add one eighth of a cup of glue to the sauce. so you re the only person in america who did it. ..it had sourced that little piece of information from a reddit comment that had suggested that obviously as a joke. and everyone on reddit at the time, when they were reading it, could understand in context that the person was making a joke that to keep the cheese from sliding off your pizza, you should add glue to the sauce. google sort of couldn t understand that this was satire, that it was a joke. so, not great. i mean, ijust should bring in. well, google have said about this, because they ve told the bbc, these were isolated examples, generally very uncommon queries, and they aren t representative of most people s experiences, and that the vast majority, it says, of ai overviews provide high quality information with links to dig deeper on the web. and it said it s taken action where policy violations were identified and it was using them to refine its systems. just in the last couple of minutes of the programme, let me ask a further question about al, and it comes down to when big organisations that have content, like the atlantic or the spectator or the mirror, decide whether or not to share all of that content with the big language models that are training generative ai. and jeffrey at the atlantic, jeffrey goldberg, you ve cut a deal with openai. tell us about the discussions within the atlantic, whether you were weighing up whether to do that or not. well, ijust have to be technically clear about something. the editorial team has independence from the business side of this operation, but the business side has independence from the editorial side. and this was a decision made by the corporation and by our business leadership to do this. and so.i was certainly told about it, and i was.invited to share my views on it, but, you know, i. what are your views on it? well, i have my ambivalence about it. i mean, i don t want to. i forget who was saying this before, but, you know, the internet has turns out been great for a place like the atlantic. we reach many, many more people than we used to because of the internet. i don t want to be, you know, sort of axiomatically luddite about this sort of thing and say, ai is only a threat, but i have my deep ambivalences about.ai and what it s going to do tojournalism and also, by the way, humanity and the future of our planet. all that being said, ai is coming whether or not i want it to come. and it s a little bit like, to me, complaining about the weather. the weather doesn t care that i don t like it. so i ve got to dress for the weather, and dressing for the weather in this case means trying to figure out a way to have a relationship with openai in which openai doesn t eat you for lunch. let me just ask quickly caroline and andrew very quickly, if you would. caroline, how s the daily mirror viewing the idea of sharing its content with these ai, these big ai operators? we wouldn t. we wouldn t want to. you re not planning to do that yet? no, we re not- planning to do that. and the spectator? we won t do that until we know a lot more about it. if it s another potential stream of revenue that doesn t carry risks, that s one thing. but we need to know a lot more. for me, the al s biggest opportunity is on the commercial side. i think a lot of the ai can help us run the company commercially much better. we can learn more about our readers, about usage of the app, usage of the website. all that sort of thing is fine, but forthe moment, i ll keep editorial separate. and i lljust add, the new york times is taking a very different approach to this. it s not collaborating with openai. in fact, it s suing for the theft of its content. so we re going to watch how that plays out. and i was at the enders deloitte media conference yesterday, where anna bateson, who runs the guardian, said they would do a deal with an ai company, but only on the right terms. so there you go. well. something to end on, because that is all we have time for, i m afraid. thank you so much to katie notopoulos from business insider and, of course, andrew neil from times radio, but also the spectator. and caroline waterston, editor in chief of the mirror, and jeffrey goldberg, editor in chief of the atlantic. well, thanks very much indeed to all of our guests. fascinating to hear their perspectives on all those issues. i suspect it won t be the last time we turn to ai, to business models of news, to covering donald trump, but it was very interesting to hear from all of them. i think you re right. thank you so much to everybody. that was the media show. we ll be back at the same time next week. bye. bye bye. and if you d like to hear a longer version of today s show, search bbc the media show wherever you get your bbc podcasts. hello there. it s been a pretty decent start to the weekend. there was a good deal of sunshine around across most of the country. a bit of cloud here and there, a few showers, mostly in the north. part two of the weekend doesn t look quite as good. it will start sunny, quite chilly. but we ve got a couple of weather fronts pushing down from the northwest that will increase cloud through the day, with some splashes of rain. now, we ve got this weather front approaching the northwest of the country to move through this evening. showers merging together to produce longer spells of rain for the north and west of scotland. so unsettled, breezy, showery in the north, turning cloudier for northern ireland, but clearer skies for large parts of england and wales, with lighter winds here. so it will turn chilly for most. single digits, i think, for the majority of the country. but with more cloud across northern ireland, we will fall to around 10 degrees in belfast. so sunday, then, we ve got low pressure still towards the norwegian sea there, bringing northern westerly winds into the country. we start off with quite a bit of sunshine. scotland, england and wales, cloudy skies for northern ireland, southwest scotland, in towards north west england, north wales. and that cloud, with splashes of rain, will spill south eastwards through the day. so it will turn cloudy across much of england and wales, probably the best of the sunshine across the far southwest, and the northern half of scotland doing pretty well, with sunny spells. but there will be blustery showers here and a cooler day to come, i think, because of more cloud around temperatures of about 12 to 17 degrees. as we move through sunday night, that area of rain splashes across the irish sea, into much of england and wales, becomes confined to southern and eastern areas by the end of the night. so where we have the cloud and the rain, then, a less cold night here, 10 to 12 degrees under clearer skies. further north, it will turn chilly. we start to pick up a northerly wind as we move into monday. that rain slowly clears away from the south and east. it may take a while to clear the east of england. eventually, it will do. then it s a bright day for most, sunshine and showers. most of these across the northern half of scotland, where they will be quite blustery and a chilly northerly wind at that. temperatures, 10 to 14 degrees in the north, 15 to 17 further south, giving some sunny spells. and we hold on to this chilly northerly wind through tuesday, even into wednesday as well. before low pressure starts to move in from the southwest, that ll cut off the chilly northerly and temperatures will slowly recover towards the end of the week. but it s going to be a fairly unsettled and a cool week to come, with a little bit of sunshine here and there. live from washington this is bbc news. four israeli hostages abducted last october are reunited with their families after israeli forces free them from captivity in gaza. , says 200 palestinians were killed in that raid by the idf. two hospital say they have counted scores of bodies. we will have the latest from the uk general election campaign as the conservatives pledged tax cuts and labour promises to help small business. good to have you with us. four is really hostages taken by hamas during the october seven attacks have been reunited with theirfamilies. israeli forces in gaza killed scores of palestinians in the operation to free them. special forces raided two locations in broad daylight. one soldier was killed. thomas says that more than 200 palestinians were killed in the operation. a military is spokesman said they were under 100 palestinian casualties. a top diplomat condemned the raid and in a post on xjoseph borrell wrote that reports from gaza of another massacre room calling. we condemn this in the strongest terms, the bloodbath must end immediately. joe biden s free step plan is put forward as a way to end the killing. the us president spoke out. here is a press conference. i out. here is a press conference.- out. here is a press conference. ., ., . .,

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will set parties will set out their manifestoes. thousands of motorcyclists arrived at the end of a mammoth right from london to cumbria. and in sport, joyful we go in a day of commemoration at wembley where rob burrow was paid tribute to, ahead of their challenge cup final. a sunny start for many of you, a more cloud, increasing, thickening and patchy rain as well. details on breakfast. good morning. the main story, israel has been criticised by the european union s matheny diplomat over the key kneeling of dozens of palestinians in an operation to rescue four hostages in gaza yesterday. josep borrell called the report another massacre of civilians. a woman and three men were rescued in a mission involving airstrikes around a refugee camp. hamas claims more than 210 palestinians were killed, is report the number below 100. a dramatic rescue and she s free again. 25 year old noa argamani, captured by hamas on the 7th of october, and taken to gaza, is finally back in israel. this is her being reunited with her father after a dramatic rescue. translation: father after a dramatic rescue. translation: ., , ., ., ., translation: please do not forget there are another translation: please do not forget there are another 120 translation: please do not forget there are another 120 hostages - translation: please do not forget there are another 120 hostages in i there are another 120 hostages in captivity. we must release them and make an effort in any way to bring them to israel and theirfamilies. either way, them to israel and theirfamilies. eitherway, it them to israel and theirfamilies. either way, it is my birthday. look at my gift! also freed, andrei kozlov, who is 27. shlomi ziv, 40, and almog meirjan, 21. eight months ago, they were in the nova music festival in southern israel when hamas gunmen attacked. more than 360 people were killed here. the four hostages, it said, were found at two separate locations in the heart of the camp and were brought out under fire. special forces went in. the military said this was a complex operation and based on intelligence information. the four hostages, it said, were found at two separate locations in the heart of the camp and were brought out under fire. israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. they underwent intensive training. they risked their lives to save the lives of our hostages. but the mission brought even more suffering to gaza. there was chaos and desperation at the nearby al aqsa hospital. doctors were unable to treat many of the winter, many arrived dead. translation: we were at home. a rocket hit us. my two cousins died and my other two cousins were seriously injured. they did nothing. they were sitting at home. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu visited the freed hostages in a hospital near tel aviv. he s being urged to reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal with hamas. rescue was considered a success by israeli authorities and change the calculation of a leader under pressure. campaigning continues ahead of what is likely to be a busy week in the lead up to the lith ofjuly general election with another scheduled election tv debate and manifestos set to be published. 0ur political correspondent ian watson has the latest. the prime minister is in a market for votes, the main westminster parties will launch manifestoes in the week ahead, rishi sunak will be hoping ms the focus for emily on chip policy, not hoping ms the focus for emily on chip p°licy, not personality. hoping ms the focus for emily on chip policy, not personality. it will be keen to move on from the dd apology and so will his party, and his candidates have been out campaigning this weekend and we have been speaking this weekend. some of spoken about anger and disappointment and one of them is firstlings that whatever will happen next? all the trousers fall down? 0thers next? all the trousers fall down? others say they have not raised the issue at all in one candidate said they were so vexed by it, they have already defected to labour or the reform party. the prime minister will be hoping to keep hisjob and he wants to get more people into work, promising to spend £700 million to help people struggling with mental health to rejoin and stay in the workforce. but he s also repeating previous announcements to toughen up benefits rules. the conservative claim they can save £12 billion of the welfare bill by the end of the next parliament. labour says existing jails are bursting at the seams and the government has failed to provide the 20,000 more prison places promised. if elected, the party says it would deliver that prison building programme and change the planning laws to make it a priority. those that give offenders more help to get into employment. the state of the nhs has been prominent in the lib dems campaign, saying they want to take pressure off the ambulance system by expanding urgent care systems and providing more than a thousand more beds. response time information will also be made readily available. today we get a sneak preview of the manifestoes but it is not until the full range of policies are published that we will know how well they connect with voters. the wife of the missing tv presenter michael mosely says his family refuses to lose hope, and the last few days have been unbearable. efforts are continuing to find the 67 year old, on the greek island of symi, where he s been missing since setting off for a walk on wednesday. new cctv footage has been released of his last known movements. joe inwood, has the very latest, from symi. india s prime minister, narendra modi will be sworn into office later on sunday. he ll be sworn in alongside his cabinet as he leads a coalition of 15 parties following last week s election results. it makes him prime ministerfor a historic third consecutive term. an 11 year old gold is one of those injured after a ride malfunctioned at lambeth. what more do we know about the situation? at lambeth. what more do we know about the situation? lambeth council have described about the situation? lambeth council have described what about the situation? lambeth council have described what happened - about the situation? lambeth council have described what happened as - about the situation? lambeth council have described what happened as a l have described what happened as a serious incident. let me step away from the camera and i can show you the funfair, butjust behind that, you will be able to see the funfair where the incident happened. we do not know what ride it was on but the police were called yesterdayjust before 630 in the evening. the council have confirmed there was a malfunction with one of the fairground rides, four people were injured and an 11 year old girl, a man and woman in their 405, and a man and woman in their 405, and a man in his 505. there was a big emergency response, as you would expect, air ambulance, ambulance crews with paramedics, they were crew5 with paramedics, they were treated at the scene and then taken major trauma units. we understand their conditions are not thought to be life threatening but we do not know what injurie5 they have sustained the council has said there will be a thorough investigation following what they describe as a serious incident. thank you. an american veteran who flew back to france for the d day celebrations got married near the beaches where the allies landed eighty years ago. harold teren5, who is one hundred years old, married his ninety six year old fiancee, jeanne swerlin. harold visited france as an air force corporal, shortly after d day. they then attended the state banquet in paris, thrown by emmanuel macron forjoe biden. i’m in paris, thrown by emmanuel macron forjoe ewen- forjoe biden. i m 100 years old and m forjoe biden. i m100 years old and m bride forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is 96 forjoe biden. i m100 years old and 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young and sprightly. i thought. they got the ages wrong! and someone else looking fabulous for his age, matt, good morning. else looking fabulous for his age, matt, good morning. bless you! life beains matt, good morning. bless you! life be . ins at matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102. matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102, who matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102, who knew? matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102, who knew? hope - matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102, who knew? hope you| begins at 102, who knew? hope you are having a great weekend and it s lovely today weatherwise and this is just a short while ago in eastern scotland, blue skies across central and southern england but it is chilly, parts dropping as low as one degree. a cold start but for many, the sunshine is good, and some cards spilling in around some areas and patchy rain to go with it as well. the car has been streaming out across the north atlantic and here it comes, it will be sitting across northern ireland for much of the island, parts of northern england and north wales and spreading southwards and eastwards. lots of clear skies to begin with across the south and parts of scotland, continuing with sunny spells but a few showers over the mountaintops will be wintry. damp at times in north west england and wales with the odd shower elsewhere. sunny throughout the day, channel islands, parts of devon and cornwall as well is dorset in particular, temperatures up to 19 but there will be high pollen levels across much of england and wales. lower further north. we finished the day with a persistent rain in northern ireland, that was spread its way across england and wales are some of the garden, you may not have to water the pots tonight. clear skies later tonight, maybe some parts of scotland down to three degrees into monday morning but holding up, and not as cold in the south because of this weather system. it will clear away to start monday and sitting across is impulsive england, producing heavy rain at times and parts of yorkshire and lincolnshire, east anglia and the southeast, and that would take a while to shift away from parts of yorkshire and east anglia and may be lingering for some in the afternoon. west of that, a day of sunshine and showers. particularly in areas of scotland and for monday, northerly winds, making it phil cooler than today. temperatures around 12 15 and actually start to the week. the northerly winds bringing colder and down, crossing into tuesday, temperatures well down for where you want this stage injune. the cloud will build up eventually and a few showers brewing particularly across central and eastern areas and the core behaviour showers on parts of tuesday afternoon. further west, brighter and drier throughout but temperatures 10 16 degrees, 5 8 down for some of you on what we normally have at this stage of the year. call for the rest of the week, some showers around but there will be dry weather as well, so a bit of a washout of a week, even if it is not an especially warm one. the ressure not an especially warm one. the pressure on not an especially warm one. the pressure on public services is a key election issue and in an effort to understand the challenges, we will be reporting on three key areas over the coming days, education, courts and social care. this morning we are focusing on schools and their struggle to address a range of social issues beyond teaching. we have been to one primary school in telford where teachers are helping with potty training and basic communication. asimple a simple maths lesson a familiar part of the school day for most pupils. increasingly in classrooms are children who struggle to simply be at school. are children who struggle to simply be at school- be at school. early years have a number of be at school. early years have a number of children be at school. early years have a number of children who - be at school. early years have a| number of children who struggle be at school. early years have a - number of children who struggle with basic communication, stringing a sentence together, please can i go the toilet, can i have a drink, sentences we had to teach the children. ., ., ., ~ , sentences we had to teach the children. ., ., ., , , ., children. london and academy is a small primary children. london and academy is a small primary school children. london and academy is a small primary school in children. london and academy is a small primary school in a - children. london and academy is a j small primary school in a relatively deprived area of telford, almost half the pupils are on free school meals. the lack of skills means the school has to teach a basic form of sign language. we school has to teach a basic form of sign language- school has to teach a basic form of sin lanuae. ~ ., ., sign language. we have intimate care lans for a sign language. we have intimate care plans for a number sign language. we have intimate care plans for a number of sign language. we have intimate care plans for a number of our sign language. we have intimate care plans for a number of our children, i plans for a number of our children, we change the children, we also try to teach them to go to the toilet as well so we try to do some of that potty training but we still have children are nappies in our early years environment. lafit children are nappies in our early years environment. last september of the 27 children years environment. last september of the 27 children who years environment. last september of the 27 children who joined years environment. last september of the 27 children who joined the - the 27 children who joined the reception class, eight were a nappies. louise says her son was not potty trained when he started school. he potty trained when he started school. . , . potty trained when he started school. ., , ., ., , school. he was quite late, he was not ready- school. he was quite late, he was not ready- and school. he was quite late, he was not ready. and then school. he was quite late, he was not ready. and then we school. he was quite late, he was not ready. and then we felt - school. he was quite late, he was not ready. and then we felt when | school. he was quite late, he was i not ready. and then we felt when he was ready, school helped. they helped with that. had was ready, school helped. they helped with that. was ready, school helped. they helped with that. had you tried to net him helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet trained helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet trained before - helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet trained before he . helped with that. had you tried to i get him toilet trained before he got to school? ., , , ., to school? there was ust no interest from t to school? there was ust no interest from him to school? there was ust no interest from him at h to school? there wasjust no interest from him at all- to school? there wasjust no interest from him at all to i to school? there wasjust no| interest from him at all to try that. ,., , interest from him at all to try that. , ., ., , that. the parents have nothing but raise for that. the parents have nothing but praise for the that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school but that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school but a - that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school but a chat - praise for the school but a chat reveals why schools increasingly struggle to focus solely on educating children. my oldest dau~hter educating children. my oldest daughter i educating children. my oldest daughter i order educating children. my oldest daughter i order out - educating children. my oldest daughter i order out of - educating children. my oldestj daughter i order out of school educating children. my oldest. daughter i order out of school i educate her. how old is she? 14. she was self harming, bullied due to her mental health, now she is at home she does the work and she is happy. happy- he is work and s the does she my she does the work and she is happy. my wife died when i first started, a lot of my wife died when i first started, a lot of stress and emotional health, that was lot of stress and emotional health, that was affecting the children with the what that was affecting the children with the what was going on. we have had help from the what was going on. we have had help from social services. my wife is back help from social services. my wife is back where she wanted to be. and that was is back where she wanted to be. situc that was through the is back where she wanted to be. fific that was through the school? london academy as part of a 13 school multi academy as part of a 13 school multi academy trust, the head says long standing challenges caused by tight budgets have been exacerbated by covid 19 and cost of living pressure. by covid-19 and cost of living pressure- by covid-19 and cost of living ressure. ., ., ., . pressure. coming out of the pandemic children are quite pressure. coming out of the pandemic children are quite often pressure. coming out of the pandemic children are quite often more - children are quite often more anxious about large social situations because people were out of that for a while and at a quite informative stage in their education and own personal development. i think ultimately, when children are coming to school or hungry, that s having a bigger impact as an ongoing thing, we would have recovered quicker if it hadn t been for those issue. to quicker if it hadn t been for those issue. ., , ., , ., issue. to help families the learning community has issue. to help families the learning community has a issue. to help families the learning community has a food issue. to help families the learning community has a food bank- issue. to help families the learning community has a food bank run - issue. to help families the learning community has a food bank run by| community has a food bank run by nikki morrison. i community has a food bank run by nikki morrison. community has a food bank run by nikki morrison. i went out to have a visit myself. nikki morrison. i went out to have a visit myself, the nikki morrison. i went out to have a visit myself, the children nikki morrison. i went out to have a visit myself, the children were - visit myself, the children were having weet bix with tap water. she having weet-bix with tap water. she leads the having weet bix with tap water. she leads the team who provide a lot of time providing emotional and psychological support to hundreds of peoples, she wonders what will happen to them once they are older. a lot of support is in place for children through the school system, but when they leave school, that support starts to beat, they will have to pick up for when the children leave school and put the support and so they can be productive and functional members of society. the productive and functional members of socie . . . , productive and functional members of socie . . ., , ., ., society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, how society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, how to society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, how to help - society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, how to help many. are nationwide, how to help many children who cannot open school. cope with life. michael buchanan, bbc news, telford. the time is coming up to 19 minutes past six, time to have a look at the papers, the observer leaves of the report is a future labour government would promise to establish 80 new rate courts in england and wales as part of wide ranging plans to tackle violence against women and girls. they say the policy is expected to be unveiled on the party manifesto next week, as we have mentioned, we expect to see the manifestoes unveiled from all parties. the sunday express unveiled from all parties. tie: sunday express reports on a quote 6 year master plan from a reform party leader nigel farage to in his words reshape politics and carry out what the paper calls a hostile takeover of the conservatives. the meal male takeover of the conservatives. the meal male leads with the search for former broadcaster michael mosley, it reports rescuers are focusing on a dangerous cave complex known as the abyss and we willjoin our correspondence live on the ireland later this morning. the mirror focuses ireland later this morning. the mirror focuses on ireland later this morning. tie: mirror focuses on the recovery of the princess of wales following her recent cancer diagnosis, it carries comments made by catherine in a letter to the irish guards when she said she hopes to return to public duties very soon. she apologised for not being there to 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the past five decades. in response team of conservationists and have hatched a plan to rescue the reclusive species as our correspondence explain. these tiny birds were once correspondence explain. these tiny birds were once regular correspondence explain. these tiny birds were once regular visitors - correspondence explain. these tiny birds were once regular visitors to l birds were once regular visitors to our gardens but not anymore. manchester alone, there are nowjust 120 breeding pairs after suffering a huge decline over the past five decades. we huge decline over the past five decades. ~ ., ., ., ., ., decades. we have got a lot of witness here, decades. we have got a lot of witness here, what decades. we have got a lot of witness here, what on - decades. we have got a lot of witness here, what on the - decades. we have got a lot of| witness here, what on the side decades. we have got a lot of - witness here, what on the side and brought on that side damp, wet woodland is what willow titx like. now volunteers are being asked to rescue them. we now volunteers are being asked to rescue them- now volunteers are being asked to rescue them. we want to survey the -o - ulation rescue them. we want to survey the population once rescue them. we want to survey the population once we rescue them. we want to survey the population once we understand - rescue them. we want to survey the population once we understand thel population once we understand the population once we understand the population we will use the information to design habitat intervention. information to design habitat intervention. a , , intervention. ashley maas has been identified as intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an area intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an area that intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an area that could - intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an area that could be l identified as an area that could be restored to help the willow tip population. we restored to help the willow tip population- restored to help the willow tip oulation. ~ ., ., ., ., population. we need rotten, deadwood like this in a woodland population. we need rotten, deadwood like this in a woodland for population. we need rotten, deadwood like this in a woodland for willow- like this in a woodland for willow titx to excavate, this living tree is very hard, a willow tip could not excavate that for its nest.- excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive and excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive and hard - excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive and hard to - excavate that for its nest. these | birds are elusive and hard to spot we did not see any today but they do have a distinctive call. thea;r we did not see any today but they do have a distinctive call. have a distinctive call. they are often in places have a distinctive call. they are often in places really have a distinctive call. they are often in places really close - have a distinctive call. they are often in places really close to i often in places really close to people 5 houses like in bolton and trafford, you have them write on the scruffy pockets of the land behind people 5 houses and they are an elusive bird so people don t know where they are. fit! elusive bird so people don t know where they are. elusive bird so people don t know where they are. on the edge of the sark where they are. on the edge of the s - ark we where they are. on the edge of the spark we have where they are. on the edge of the spark we have a where they are. on the edge of the spark we have a woodland - where they are. on the edge of the spark we have a woodland habitat. | spark we have a woodland habitat. volunteers spark we have a woodland habitat. volunteers are working with the wildlife trust with funding they will work with landowners to increase the habitat of the willow tip, benefiting a host of other creatures into the bargain. it’s creatures into the bargain. it s tuite creatures into the bargain. it s quite often creatures into the bargain. it s quite often a creatures into the bargain. it s quite often a habitat overlooked by people or undervalued, it s a bit scruffy looking, it is untidy, a bit wet and boggy, it s a bit unloved. there are a number of factors for the willow tip to climb. quite possibly climate change is playing a part, some of the weather habitats potentially might be drying up in the longer hotter summers. it is a bird that does not move that far and we need to create these pockets of habitats like steppingstones on the way across the landscape so they can move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife project move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife project aims move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife project aims to - willow wildlife project aims to boost the willow tip s chance of survival and halts the alarming decline in this once common entry should bed. taste decline in this once common entry should bed- decline in this once common entry should bed. we want to make sure there is always should bed. we want to make sure there is always a should bed. we want to make sure there is always a home should bed. we want to make sure there is always a home for- should bed. we want to make sure there is always a home for the - there is always a home for the willow tip in the west, it is a really iconic species and it needs our help. really iconic species and it needs our hel. , , really iconic species and it needs our hel. , ., , really iconic species and it needs ourhel. , “ , our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovel to our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear the our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear the efforts - our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear the efforts to - our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear the efforts to help | lovely to hear the efforts to help support that endangered species. i don t know if you ve seen the don t know if you ve seen the documentary on the rob burrow, that bbc breakfast has done, it is a really emotional watch. it was a boy can and time, a tribute to him, wasn t it? can and time, a tribute to him, wasn t it? , ., . , , wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death of wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death of rob wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death of rob burrow i wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death of rob burrow s| wasn t it? yesterday at wembley i since the death of rob burrow s on sunday night of last week, we read a lot of words, we have heard a lot of words and seen the personal connection he had with a lot of people. viewers of this program will know especially the strong bond he built up on those people who had been supporting over the years of his motor neurone disease order struggles, it was something else to see it wordlessly as it turned out for a good minute at wembley, they were overwhelming to see, unanimous support and commemoration for rob burrow at wembley yesterday. it was remarkable, the pictures in addition to everything we have had, the personal, intense relationships described over the last few days, just to have all of those people doing the same thing and as i say. a powerful, wordless tribute. you are correct. a powerful, wordless tribute. you are correct. a a powerful, wordless tribute. you are correct, a poem date wembley as rugby pay tribute to one of its grades, on its perch saint helens women were challenge cup challenges. a game benefiting the memory of the great rob burrow. great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenae great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenge cup great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenge cup winners, great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenge cup winners, a - great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenge cup winners, a momentj great rob burrow. wigan warriors i challenge cup winners, a moment of celebration the combination of a day of raw emotion. 0n the game 5 grandest stage the sport had come together to remember an inspirational champion. fans from across the rugby league cup community gathering to pay their own very personal tributes to the late rob burrows who passed awayjust a few days ago after the battle with motor neurone disease, tributes that would continue throughout the day. he meant everything, everything to me, to the club and the mnd community, just amazing. tithe me, to the club and the mnd community, just amazing. community, ust amazing. one thing that ru:b community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league cup community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league cup does - community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league cup does is - community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league cup does is look l that rugby league cup does is look after our that rugby league cup does is look after our own and we all come together, after our own and we all come together, no matter what club you are from together, no matter what club you are from everyone can see what he did as are from everyone can see what he did as a are from everyone can see what he did as a player and as a human being afterwards did as a player and as a human being afterwards. he did as a player and as a human being afterwards. . , did as a player and as a human being afterwards. ., , ., , ., ., , ., afterwards. he was a star, he was a star. the men s afterwards. he was a star, he was a star. the men s showpiece - afterwards. he was a star, he was a star. the men s showpiece final- star. the men s showpiece final warrington star. the men s showpiece final warrington against star. the men s showpiece final warrington against wigan - star. the men s showpiece final- warrington against wigan beginning after a minutes of impeccable silence. we can already raining super league and club champions took the first half lead, bevan french twisting and turning his way. that s their second try captain liam farrell rampaging through to extend the lead and from there warrington would not find a way. wigan warriors, wembley winners once again. earlier, there was no fairytale win for leeds. beaten comprehensively by saint helens for the third year in a row. so glory for saint helen s the third year in a row. so glory for saint helen 5 women and for wigan warriors men on a day when the whole sport of rugby league came together to celebrate one of its own. adam wilde, bbc news, wembley. northampton s 10 year wait for a league title and rugby union is over they won a dramatic new ship final at twickenham, alex mitchell scoring the winning try against bath down to 14 men with 17 minutes left as they claim their second championship and gave a perfect sendoff to the parting courtney law after his 17 years with the club. it parting courtney law after his 17 years with the club. years with the club. it has not really sunk years with the club. it has not really sunk in years with the club. it has not really sunk in yet, years with the club. it has not really sunk in yet, we - years with the club. it has not really sunk in yet, we were i really sunk in yet, we were so focused on this for so long, during the game, it was get the one, however you can. you get there and you are like we have done it! it is fast, can t put into words. i think we deserved it, over the season we have been the best team, sometimes you have to find a way to win. , . . ,, , ., sometimes you have to find a way to win. , . , ., ., win. english cricketers are without a win at the win. english cricketers are without a win at the t-20 win. english cricketers are without a win at the t-20 will win. english cricketers are without a win at the t-20 will cover- win. english cricketers are without a win at the t-20 will cover after l a win at the t 20 will cover after losing to australian bob artist, putting their chances of getting to the next stage in doubt. travis head made a flying start 70 without loss of five overs, australia reaching to hundred and one seven, 13 sixes in that innings, captainjosh butler top scored with 42 but they lost those wickets at regular intervals and fell well short of the target, losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves in losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves in as losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves in as the losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves in as the situation - find ourselves in as the situation we find ourselves in, we have to be confident keeps heads up and look forward to the next one and keep up in the chest out and playing some good cricket which we know we are capable of. good cricket which we know we are ca able of. good cricket which we know we are caable of. ~ .., good cricket which we know we are capable of capable of. south africa are top of the a-rou capable of. south africa are top of the group up capable of. south africa are top of the group up to capable of. south africa are top of the group up to a capable of. south africa are top of the group up to a scare capable of. south africa are top of the group up to a scare against. capable of. south africa are top of| the group up to a scare against the netherlands, chasing 141, 12 four at one stage but there after they managed the run chase well and were beaten from 51 balls from david miller, south africa one x four wickets, after a disappointing start to the british open they won the men s wheelchair doubles title, another serial winner in paris was iga swiatek she is now french open singles winnerfor a iga swiatek she is now french open singles winner for a fourth time, she continued her recent dominance on the clay with a straight sets win againstjasmine paolini obviously, against jasmine paolini obviously, it againstjasmine paolini obviously, it is her third title in a row in paris and herfirst it is her third title in a row in paris and her first grand slam triumph overall. i m paris and her first grand slam triumph over all. paris and her first grand slam triumph over all. i m really proud of m self triumph over all. i m really proud of myself because triumph over all. i m really proud of myself because the triumph over all. i m really proud i of myself because the expectations obviously have been pretty high from the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy ijust went the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy i just went for the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy ijust went for it the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy i just went for it and the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy ijust went for it and i was ready to deal with all of this, and i could win. it is the turn of the men this afternoon. it is the first time that either of the players had reached the final length paris and they are hoping tojoin an the final length paris and they are hoping to join an illustrious list of spaniards to have one in roland garros. i of spaniards to have one in roland garros. ., ., , , ., ., garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish players garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish players who garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish players who have - garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish players who have won l list of spanish players who have won the tournament, not only rafa nadal, ferrero, koster, and many have one from the sport and i really want to put my name on the list as well. i think in a grand slam final there are no think in a grand slam final there are no easy matches or opponents. if you are are no easy matches or opponents. if you are in are no easy matches or opponents. if you are in the are no easy matches or opponents. if you are in the final roland garros you are in the final roland garros you deserve to be there and that goes you deserve to be there and that goes for you deserve to be there and that goes for him as well. he played a fantastic goes for him as well. he played a fantastic match and tournament in general fantastic match and tournament in general. i m expecting a very difficult general. i m expecting a very difficult match. general. i m expecting a very difficult match. general. i m expecting a very difficult match. looks like the mercedes difficult match. looks like the mercedes formula difficult match. looks like the mercedes formula 1 difficult match. looks like the mercedes formula 1 team - difficult match. looks like the i mercedes formula 1 team could difficult match. looks like the - mercedes formula 1 team could be challenging for wins again after george russell claimed pole position for the canadian grand prix. he recorded a time of one minute and 12 seconds exactly on his first run qualifying and montreal. max verstappen posted exactly the same time but because george russell did at first, he gets to start from the top spot forjust at first, he gets to start from the top spot for just the second at first, he gets to start from the top spot forjust the second time in his career. great britain have won their first medals at the world athletics championships in rome. the race was won by marceljacobs in a time of 10.02 seconds as he successfully defended his european sprint title, and italy 13 medals but it is the competitors first met all. i but it is the competitors first met all. ., ., ., , all. i wanted to get the gold but i needed to take all. i wanted to get the gold but i needed to take the all. i wanted to get the gold but i needed to take the positive - all. i wanted to get the gold but i needed to take the positive and i | needed to take the positive and i want very much to be in the olympics are positive things you take from here and go back and look at the video and work on my race. george miller has one video and work on my race. george miller has one silver video and work on my race. george miller has one silver finishing - miller has one silver finishing behind the first place, and he has his sights set on the paris 0lympics next month. i his sights set on the paris olympics next month- his sights set on the paris olympics next month. ., ., ., next month. i want to run the 15 and the five in paris next month. i want to run the 15 and the five in paris but next month. i want to run the 15 and the five in paris but hopefully - the five in paris but hopefully tonight has done my chances of selection no harm but we are still a month out in three weeks until trials and back to training as of tomorrow and we will get stuck in. michael dunlop has secured victory in the super sport and super twins races of the week and it takes the total number of victories to 29, three clear of the previous record, belonging to his late unclejoey. he had it for 24 years in the fourth time he has won four races across the week. whether it is dunlop or mills, a couple of stories about how you can send your sporting progress down the gene pool! absolutely! around 20,000 bikers completed aim mammoth ride in memory of dave myers who died of cancer in february. the procession made its way to his home town of barrow after setting off from the ace cafe in north west london. sharon barber has been following the journey. it isa it is a big night in barrow, a celebration of the life of dave myers. tens of thousands have arrived, many of them hairy bikers. they are riding in all the way up the m6, thousands of people on every bridge, unbelievable. fits the m6, thousands of people on every bridge, unbelievable. bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in throu~h bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in through the bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in through the towns bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in through the towns and bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in through the towns and villages - in through the towns and villages leading in through the towns and villages leading into barrow, the streets were leading into barrow, the streets were lined and it was amazing! the roar of tens were lined and it was amazing! the roar of tens of were lined and it was amazing! tie: roar of tens of thousands of motorbikes heard across england today, began to arrive late afternoon. the procession at times was 16 miles long, and the route was lined by supporters. leading the cavalcade that left london this morning was dave s best friend and fellow hairy by car. fellow hairy by car. what a remarkable fellow hairy by car. what a remarkable reception! - fellow hairy by car. what a j remarkable reception! just fellow hairy by car. what a - remarkable reception! just mind blowing! all of the bridges all the way from london, people waving and showing kindness, courtesy and it was unbelievable! the showing kindness, courtesy and it was unbelievable! showing kindness, courtesy and it was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february after was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february after he was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february after he was was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february after he was diagnosed | in february after he was diagnosed with cancer. he was 66. sharon barber, bbc news, cumbria. what a lovely thing to have done. very touching. we will be back with the headlines at seven but now it is time for the travel show. this year, all eyes are on the french region of normandy as it prepares to celebrate the major anniversaries. it may not be as well visited as paris, or as funny as the south of the country but if you come here and explore, you will fall in love with this part of france, it was a place that gave us a king, that change the course of history. it us a king, that change the course of histo . . , us a king, that change the course of histo . ., , , , us a king, that change the course of histo . ,, history. it has inspired the painter who started history. it has inspired the painter who started a history. it has inspired the painter who started a movement - history. it has inspired the painter who started a movement that - history. it has inspired the painter| who started a movement that took history. it has inspired the painter- who started a movement that took the artwork by storm. he painted the light up there. artwork by storm. he painted the light up there- artwork by storm. he painted the light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline was light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline was at light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline was at the light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline was at the forefront i the coastline was at the forefront for the fight for freedom. i the coastline was at the forefront for the fight for freedom.- the coastline was at the forefront for the fight for freedom. i want to sound an enormous for the fight for freedom. i want to sound an enormous sentinel - for the fight for freedom. i want to sound an enormous sentinel to - for the fight for freedom. i want to i sound an enormous sentinel to those of taken part, it was a team effort. this is the region that has seen it all. and it s stories have all been woven into the tapestry of time. this is so cool! i will release the road until it is slapping. so the flapping starts and then from the flapping, we bring it in. just to stop? look at me! i m a sailor! france and england may be neighbours but in the middle ages, they were bitter rivals, mainly thanks to this man, william, the duke of normandy, who history would come to know better as william the conqueror. in the year 1066, he left the shores to invade england and set it on a new course of history. william was descended from the fears that vikings, or northmen, who gave normandy its name. in 2027, normandy will mark the 1,000th anniversary of william s birth. but the preparations for this big occasion have already begun. la mora was the flagship of william s invasion fleet. and now, a historical society in the port town of honfleur are busy recreating the viking style longship that would have carried william, his most trusted knights, their horses, and 60 oarsmen to the brutal battle of hastings. and there s not a power tool in sight. this is me splitting wood in what would be the norman way of doing it. yeah, and with this technique, you can split any tree. yeah, good. and that is how you split wood norseman style. jean marie is the president of the society and has some big plans for la mora when she s finished. so, it s all about timing. you start now so the boat is finished for the anniversary. oh, wow! we hope, we hope! yeah! we hope that. wow! the team made their plans for the new look la mora by studying the 70 metre long bayeux tapestry. so all of this is the battle of hastings? yes, it s all the battle. here is the famous death of king harold, which marks the end of the battle. where s the eye? where s the arrow in his eye? harold isjust here. you can see it with the arrow in the eye. yeah! the tapestry was completed in the decade following the battle of hastings. martin is a historian at the bayeux museum, whose job it is to study and interpret this priceless a rtefa ct. and on the next scene, you can see that william is taking off his helmet to being recognised by the helmet to show that he is alive and the battle have to continue to the victor. the story starts with the dying king of england, edward the confessor, promising the throne to william. he sends the message to william in france via a trusted nobleman called harold godwinson. but when edward dies, harold is offered the crown by the governing council of england and takes it for himself, ensuing william s rage. how factual is it? how factual? it s a representation, you know, of the events of the year 1064 1066. so, it s a story written by the victors, you know, and there is a lot, of course, of what we can call inaccuracy, and so mistake or choice to show some.only a point of view of the history. yeah. it s like. we can call it propaganda, you know? now over 900 years old, the bayeux tapestry has survived major events like the french revolution and even acted as a potential crib sheet for those looking to invade england as recently as world war ii. then it was confiscated by the germans. so it did end up in german hands? it did end up in german hands here in bayeux for they study it, and also to know how to invade england, of course. really?! yes, of course. so germany were taking tips from william the conqueror s story? dives sur mer is the town william left from to invade england. though i must admit, it s hard to imagine a full blown invasion force gathered here today. wow, look at this place! where are all the knights in their suits of armour? i m meeting francois, an archaeologist who, like many other normans, is in love with his history. wow! hello, steve. francois, bonjour! salut. nice to meet you. but what is it that separates normandy from other regions in france? what s so special here? there is so much history here. in dives sur mer, the past isn t just consigned to books and museums, it s part of everyday life. even the weekly market takes place in a hall that dates back to the 13005. this all looks so nice. yes. what have we got here? that doesn t look french. yeah? when i think french food, i think cheese, bread not this. yeah? oh, really? i d love to, please! thank you. when the baker finished with his oven, the villagers would make this? 0ui. 0h, amazing. that s nice, eh? that s nice. look, all of these names, the people it s bizarre. you thinkjust william the conqueror. notjust soldiers archers, stable boys. 0ui. there s lots of people involved. the names featured on the wall are william s top brass the ones who helped him rule england, and that would later become the cornerstone for the country s aristocracy. william the conqueror a national hero? was he a tyrant, a kind king? what kind of person.? normandy s countryside is well, let s face it picture perfect. and there s only one way to see it in the passenger seat of a french classic car. ..like the citroen 2cv. french culture has an abundance of style and a certainje ne sais quoi. so it s no surprise france has produced some of the world s finest artists. 2024 is a really important anniversary in the world of art. it s 150 years since the movement of impressionism was founded, giving the world artists like monet. i ve come to the norman village of giverny. it s famed worldwide as being the home of french artist claude monet, who lived here from 1883 all the way up to his death in 1926. the gardeners here do an amazing job. they must go around with one of monet s pictures. it s identical! patricia is a local artist, and with giverny being a major tourist attraction in normandy, she has a sideline running tours around monet s house and gardens. patricia, this place is as pretty as a picture. i think i recognise it. really?! yeah! is it possible? he painted this place more than 250 times. yeah? yeah. so, tell me, why did he paint it so many times? because he made series of the light, yeah? so, you see today we have wonderful reflections, and this is what he loved. so, he created this garden being inspired by the japanese art, because at that time, in europe and all over the world, japan was the new fashion. and monet became a fashion victim. 0h, right! so, that makes sense. we ve got the bamboo, we ve got the very japanese style bridge. yes. impressionism was groundbreaking. the year 1874 was a time of great change in france. claude monet and a group of his friends decided it was time for art to change too. with the opening of new train lines and the invention of paints in tubes, they could leave their studios in paris and capture places like normandy on canvas. when they set up their own radical exhibition on their return to the city, a notable critic of the time compared their work to a sketch for a wallpaper pattern a mere unfinished impression which gave this movement its name. but looking around this museum in giverny, it s clear to see who got the last laugh. how does yours already look better than mine? laughing: because i m a painter. - because you re a painter, yeah. so, tell me a little bit about monet s relationship with normandy. normandy became one of his major subjects because he loved the light changes. you know, monet always used to say, here the light changes every seven minutes. and if you look at that today, i think that s true. yeah. claude monet never painted any water lilies. what?! yes! he painted the light on top of the lilies. 0h. you get it? ..my mind is blown! i ve come to that reflection part now, and i don t really know what i m doing. in fact, to paint the reflections, you should do vertical lines. this is what monet made. and look, it s vertical. can you see? no. they both laugh. how is yours so different from mine? i don t understand. because you have a different style. i don t have a different style i can t do it! patricia chuckles. it s starting to rain. i think we should better stop. what do you think? because otherwise, our paintings will be messy. we will never be able to sell them for $1 million. they both laugh. ok? ok. normandy s ever changing weather has put an end to my lesson, but that is my first and possibly last effort at impressionism art. it s no monet, but it s a steve brown. back here on the coast, scars from normandy s more recent history can still be felt today. 0njune 6th, 1944, 80 years ago, the d day landings happened on a stretch of normandy s beaches. the objective of d day was to secure a foothold in nazi occupied europe. it was the largest naval, air and land operation in history. on that fateful summer s day, the allies used over 5,000 ships and landing craft to carry more than 150,000 troops to normandy s beaches codenamed utah, 0maha, gold, juno and sword. 4,414 allied soldiers died on d day itself. in 2021, the british normandy memorial was opened overlooking gold beach. to mark the 80th anniversary of the d day landings, dan and his team of volunteers from the arts group standing with giants will place 1,475 handmade silhouettes at the memorial to mark the number of servicemen who died on d day itself under british command. applause. hey, look at that! give it a wiggle, ed. get your toes on it. so, that s the first one up, then. do they all look the same? no, we ve got 11 different designs, all representing different groups that came over the beaches on that particular day. yeah, you don t want to leave anyone out, do you? well, no. we was told, apparently we ve left out frogmen. oh, no! do you know, my great uncle was a stretcher bearer on d day? 0h, right. you know, it s amazing, isn t it? everyone s got their stories. and did you meet your great uncle? um, no, i didn t, and if i m honest with you, my understanding and the facts that i ve got from family are quite sparse. but, do you know, standing here with you, looking out across the beach that he would have been helping on, i m certainly going to go back and find out more about him. because everyone played their role and the stretcher bearers and the nurses, i mean, they were witnessing horror continuously just continuously. and, you know, it was just so hard for them. and because of that, we ve also designed two nurses. there were two nurses on one of the boats that hit a mine, and they got blown up and killed. so we ve actually brought with us two giant nurses, laser cut in steel, to represent the nurses and the ladies that took part and that worked so hard behind the scenes. i m. i m lost for words. dan chuckles. i m lost for words. cafe gondree was the first french home to be liberated on d day. it s so good to meet you. thank you very much. it s still run by the same family. and i m meeting arlette, who was just four years old in 1944. but what a cafe! i mean, look around. there seems to be so many bits of memorabilia. it seems like everybody wants to share things with you. that s absolutely right. they want to come in because it s a house, a little house from the surface, that has lived history. we were woken up, or half asleep, by a tremendous crashing noise and then different movements around the house. and then suddenly the shutter from our dining room was being forced open and window panes were being broken, and we heard footsteps above our head. we thought the germans had come in to get us, but fortunately. that is. ..fortunately, daddy left us for a short time, walked up the little steps and was faced by soldiers saying to daddy, it s all right, we ve arrived. we re british. so he brought them in the cellar. and naturally, i was very frightened, so i went to hide behind the barrels. but then one of them took some chocolate out of his jacket with some biscuits, and so i came forward. mummy started kissing them. and then after that, daddy said, it s all for you, this house, and opened the door. and by then, casualties were brought in. i want to say an enormous thank you. ..to all those who have taken part. it was a team effort. here, it s the british, but within the british army there were other nationalities that were trained together. and this is to be commemorated for the 80th anniversary. and i can see you mean that, as well. i can see you mean that from the bottom of your heart. d day didn t end world war ii, but it was the beginning of the end, and there were still dark days ahead, and many more lives would be lost on all sides. the final stop on myjourney through time is the german war graves at la cambe. above the cemetery is a statue of a mother and father. it was placed there to watch over the sons that are buried below. history isn t just about buildings and museum pieces, it s about people. when you come to somewhere like normandy and see the places where it all happened, you start to realise that every name on a stone or in a textbook is a real person, and that offers you a perspective like no other. you thinkjust william the conqueror. good morning. welcome to breakfast, with luxmy gopal and ben boulos. 0ur headlines today: the eu s most senior diplomat has condemned the killing of palestinians in an israeli operation to rescue four hostages. the mission was to bring home the captives who had been held in gaza since the hamas attacks eight months ago. election campaigning continues across the country ahead of a key week, in which parties will set out their manifestos. after new cctv emerges of the tv presenter michael mosley, who vanished on a greek island on wednesday, his wife says she will not lose hope . in sport, england s defence of the t20 world cup is in danger. they re still to win in the tournament after a hefty defeat by australia in barbados in their second game and while it should be a sunny start for sunday for many of you, a lot more cloud and some patchy rain. details here on breakfast. good morning, it s sunday the 9th june. our main story: israel has been criticised by the european union s most senior diplomat over the killing of dozens of palestinians in an operation to rescue four hostages in gaza. eu foreign policy chief josep borrell called the reports another massacre of civilians . the mission to bring home the captives involved air strikes around a refugee camp. the moment she was made free. 25 year old noa argamani, captured by hamas on the 7th of october, and taken to gaza, is finally back in israel. this is her being reunited with her dad after a dramatic rescue. translation: please do not forget there are another 120 hostages in captivity. we must release them and make an effort in any way to bring them to israel and theirfamilies. by the way, it is my birthday. also freed, andrei kozlov, who is 27. shlomi ziv, 40, and almog meirjan, 21. eight months ago, they were in the nova music festival in southern israel when hamas gunmen attacked. more than 360 people were killed here. the four hostages rescued in a major operation by the israeli military carried out at a refugee camp in central gaza. the military said it was a complex operation based on intelligence information. the four hostages, it said were found at two separate locations and were brought out under file. israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. they underwent intensive training. they risked their lives to save the lives of our hostages. but the mission brought even more suffering to gaza. there was chaos and desperation at the nearby al aqsa hospital. doctors struggled to treat all the wounded. many arrived already dead. translation: we were at home. a rocket hit us. my two cousins died and my other two cousins were seriously injured. they did nothing. they were sitting at home. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu visited the freed hostages in a hospital near tel aviv. he s being urged to reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal with hamas. the rescue was considered a success by israeli authorities and could change the calculation of a leader under pressure. hugh bachega, bbc news, tel aviv. 0ur correspondent, jon donnison, is injerusalem. jon, what has the reaction been in israel? i think it has been one of celebration and huge relief, especially for the families of the hostages who were released after being held for some 246 days. i also think it is given a boost to benjamin netanyahu because it allows him to say, look, his strategy is working. he believes the only way to get hostages out, or the best way, is to continue to put military pressure on hamas. contrast that with the mood in gaza, which is one of outrage at the number of civilians killed, many women and children. we have also had the eu s most senior diplomat, josep borrell, calling this another massacre and saying the bloodbath has to end immediately. the israeli mind ministerfired back immediately. the israeli mind minister fired back and said to josep borrell, shame on you, instead of condemning hamas, for holding hostages in civilian areas, he was attacking israel for rescuing its citizens. . ~ attacking israel for rescuing its citizens. ., ,, ., attacking israel for rescuing its citizens. ., ., ., campaigning continues ahead of what is likely to be a busy week in the lead up to the general election, with another scheduled election tv debate and manifestos set to be published. 0ur political correspondent, iain watson, has this report. the prime minister is in the market for votes. the main westminster parties will launch manifestoes in the week ahead. rishi sunak will be hoping it moves the focus onto policy, not personality. he will be keen to move on from his d day apology and so will his party, and his candidates have been out campaigning this weekend and we have been speaking to some this weekend. some of spoken about anger and disappointment and one of them said whatever will happen next? will rishi sunak s trousers fall down? others say voters have not raised the issue at all. 0ne candidate said they were so vexed by it, they have already defected to labour or the reform party. the prime minister will be hoping to keep his job afterjuly 4, and he wants to get more people into work, promising to spend £700 million to help people struggling with mental health to rejoin and stay in the workforce. but he s also repeating previous announcements to toughen up benefits rules. the conservatives claim they can save £12 billion from the welfare bill by the end of the next parliament. labour says existing jails are bursting at the seams and the government has failed to provide the 20,000 more prison places promised. if elected, the party says it would deliver that prison building programme and change the planning laws to make it a priority and give offenders more help to get into employment. the state of the nhs has been prominent in the lib dems campaign, saying they want to take pressure off the ambulance system by expanding urgent care centers and providing more than 1,000 more beds. response time information will also be made readily available. today we get a sneak preview of the manifestoes but it is not until the full range of policies are published that we will know how well they connect with voters. we are nowjoined by our political correspondent, jessica parker. jessica, it s going to be a busy week for all of the parties, isn t it? absolutely! what we have had so far in the campaign is we have been essentially drip fed policy ideas and announcements and a couple of tv debates but it can feel like there is a lot of noise, charter, a bit hard to keep up with, but as we start to get those manifestoes over the coming weeks from the main parties, that will change a little bit because what a manifesto is as many will know, is a political party s programme for government, a blueprint for what it would do if that party was in power. i think what will be particularly interesting as well is that while we are not necessarily expecting major surprises from at least the two main parties, although of course you never know, i have not been the manifestoes yet, although there have been plenty of leaks and a announcements made, and a lot of discussion about how will parties pay for pledges? a lot of scrutiny and back and forth between labour and back and forth between labour and the conservatives and costings should be in the manifesto, so that will be very crucial. it will move the campaign onto the next phase after the first few weeks we ve had so far. . ~ ,, ~ after the first few weeks we ve had so far. ., ,, i. . , so far. thank you. we will be discussing so far. thank you. we will be discussing this so far. thank you. we will be discussing this later- so far. thank you. we will be discussing this later in - so far. thank you. we will be discussing this later in with i discussing this later in with political pundits. the search for the tv presenter michael mosley will resume on the greek island of symi after he went missing while out on a walk on wednesday. 0ur correspondent, joe inwood, is in symi. joe, what will the search teams be focusing on this morning? it seems they will be looking at roughly the same area as they were yesterday. this is a big, rocky outcrop going north from the main village, the last known sighting of michael mosley, we saw new cctv shortage showing him walking at two o clock purposefully towards the hills. the suggestion is he did not take the most direct route, the town where i m staying now, symi, but instead around the mountain and over the top and all the way back that way. if he had decided to do that, that with a very long walk in incredible heat and my legs are burning from standing in the sun too long! it is really hot and it s only nine o clock in the morning! at 130 in the afternoon it is seriously hot! that is why they are trying to find him quickly but as the days go on it is becoming a more consenting situation. , ., ., , situation. and his wife, claire has said they would situation. and his wife, claire has said they would not situation. and his wife, claire has said they would not lose - situation. and his wife, claire has said they would not lose hope? i said they would not lose hope? absolutely. she put out a statement yesterday describing the time since michael had left is the most difficult period. also thanking authorities but it is keeping that core message that they will not lose hope and authorities have said they will continue to search and look for michael mosley until he is found. the longer it goes on, the more they hope will dwindle, i m sorry to say. it s another thing we have lent this morning is the search and rescue squad on the hillside has been sent to athens, which could be a sign they are winding down but it has been reported that it is so hot that the dog has been burning its paws on the dog has been burning its paws on the hillside that they cannot search because of the heat. so that is a development we have had in the last hour or. it development we have had in the last hour or. ., , hour or. it does highlight temperatures hour or. it does highlight temperatures there. - hour or. it does highlight i temperatures there. thank hour or. it does highlight - temperatures there. thank you. hour or. it does highlight temperatures there. thank you. we will return to symi to keep you updated throughout the morning. south korea says it will resume propaganda broadcasts against north korea for the first time in six years. seoul s national security council said its decision to install loudspeakers and begin broadcasts was in response to pyongyang s campaign of sending balloons carrying rubbish across the border. the council added that any attempt at causing distress to the people of south korea was unacceptable. narendra modi is set to be sworn in as prime minister of india for his third term today. he ll be sworn in alongside his cabinet as he heads a coalition of 15 parties following last week s election results. it makes him prime ministerfor a historic third consecutive term. an 11 year old girl is among four people who were injured after a fun fair ride malfunctioned in lambeth in south london. 0ur reporter helena wilkinson is at the lambeth country show where it happened. helena, what more do we know? it was a serious incident is what lambeth council are saying. let me step out of the shot and show you the fairground where the incident took place just before 630 yesterday afternoon. we do not know which rider was where the four people were injured but as you mention, the council confirming that a malfunction happened on one of the fairground rides. there was a huge emergency response, the air ambulance, four ambulance crews and paramedics came treat the four injured, an 11 year old girl, a man and woman in their 405, and another man in his 505. they were taken from here to major trauma centres. it is not confirmed what injuries they have. we are trying to find that out. we do know their conditions are not life threatening. the council say a thorough investigation will take place to work out exactly how that fairground ride malfunctioned. thank you. people in countries including france, germany and spain go to the polls in the european elections today. it s the final and main day of voting for the eu s 27 members with the first results expected tonight. damien mcguinness is in berlin. damien, what impact could this vote have across europe? could the results signal a shift to the far right? could the results signal a shift to the far right? yeah, the big story this ear the far right? yeah, the big story this year does the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem to the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem to be - the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem to be a - the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem to be a shift| the far right? yeah, the big story i this year does seem to be a shift to the right and in some cases indeed the right and in some cases indeed the far right. what we are thing across europe in many countries is a rise in popularity of either the hard populist right or extreme right. in germany it is slightly different because the far right party had been hit by a number of scandals that they may not do as well as others, but in countries like france, italy, the populist right is surging, meaning the european parliament will have a bigger chunk of eurosceptic meps there, having a big impact on eu policy because the eu does a lot of transborder issues and anything to do with migration, to do with climate change, a lot of stuff to do with supporting ukraine, is all decided by the eu, and all those laws have to be passed by the european parliament. so if you have one fifth or 20% of that parliament made up of eurosceptic and in some cases far right meps, that will have a big impact on whether those issues move forward or get blocked. i think that s what we will see and that s why people all over europe and indeed outside of europe or look at these elections and see whether the eu can make decisions when it comes forth a climate change migration and what those decisions may look like. in berlin, the polling stations have openedin in berlin, the polling stations have opened in the first few voters have walked in and the other big question is what will turn out be like? last time five years ago, it was relatively high but this time it could be even higher, and that is connected to the idea that the far right is doing well because that is also mobilising a lot of people in the centre and left to say they do not want to hand the european parliament over to the far right. lots to look out for today as the results start coming out tonight. thank you for the update. some poor ignorant moments in the coverage of the d day 80th anniversary of the past week especially on breakfast, here is one that may have escaped your attention. a world war two veteran has married his bride on the 80th anniversary of d day near the beaches of normandy in france. harold terens, a 100 year old us army air force veteran from florida, tied the knot with 96 year old jeanne swerlin at a ceremony in carentan les marais, in northwestern france. originally from new york, harold visited france as an air force corporal shortly after d day, when he was just 20 years old. to top off the extraordinary day, the newly wedded couple then attended the state banquet in paris thrown by president macron for us leaderjoe biden. here is what the happy couple had to say. i m 100 years old and my bride is 96 and to be married, it s my second, normandy is my second favourite place in the whole world. i could live here for the rest of my life and be as happy as could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, ifeel like, my god, i got butterflies, just like the young people! it is notjust the young people, love, you know! we get butterflies we also get a little bit of action! i love them. that is so brilliant, that still puts a smile on my face however many times i see that. look at that stunning however many times i see that. look at that stunning blue however many times i see that. look at that stunning blue sky over saint pauls cathedral. tia at that stunning blue sky over saint pauls cathedral. pauls cathedral. no cloud action above the city pauls cathedral. no cloud action above the city of pauls cathedral. no cloud action above the city of london, - pauls cathedral. no cloud action above the city of london, blue i pauls cathedral. no cloud action - above the city of london, blue skies and a lovely start to sunday across many central and areas, its go further north to northern england, this is just outside further north to northern england, this isjust outside bradford. shower clouds, lots of clouds streaming its way in, many will take a step into the cloud as we go through the day even if you start with some sunshine, cloud has been streaming from the north atlantic overnight, here it comes, to the north cool conditions, blustery and a few showers to the south, clear skies, through northern island and parts of southern scotland north west england and wales the cloud is thickest, central and southern ranges start with sunshine but cloud over, parts of devon, cornwall and dorset and south wales will stay sunny, to the north a mixture of sunshine and showers. let s look at that area of the cloudiest weather, across parts of island and northwest england and wales in the west of northern island, rain more persistent into the afternoon. temperature still well down on where you want at this stage injune, 10, 11 degrees for some in northern scotland, 18 or 19 for the south, this evening and overnight the rain will clear away from northern island and spread across england and wales giving some gardens a welcome soaking after a few dry days, the rain linger across eastern areas into tomorrow morning but clear skies for scotland and northern ireland, temperatures well down into low figures in rural areas, there are northerly winds from scandinavia this weather system will move eastwards overnight giving a wet and windy start across parts of lincolnshire, yorkshire, east midlands, east anglia on monday morning, rain lingering across eastern counties but away from that brighter weather around, a mixture of sunshine and showers, more cloud than sunshine in northern scotland, where ever you are a northern northerly wind and feeling chillier and cloudy moments, temperatures down on what we had this weekend, cool into tuesday, the northerly breeze brings a tear from the arctic in fact, you won t feel like that in the sunshine, still quite present out of the breeze and the sunshine. is the cloud builds up during the day it will feel cooler and we will see shells developed, central and eastern areas prone to showers on wednesday and eastern and western areas could stay dry, temperatures 10 - 17 areas could stay dry, temperatures 10 17 degrees, well down on where you want for the stage of the summer. as we grow through the rest of the week, it will stay on the cooler side of things, one of those weeks that won t be a washout, there will be dry and bright weather but a view showers around the forecast stop not feeling like june. view showers around the forecast stop not feeling likejune. taste view showers around the forecast stop not feeling like june. we will seak to stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you later. stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you later. time - stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you later. time now - stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you later. time now for l stop not feeling like june. we will. speak to you later. time now for 27 minutes past 7 a blue badge past 7 can be a lifeline for people with disabilities or health conditions, helping them to park closer to their destination but the number of badge thefts in london has more than quadrupled in the last decade. last year, more than 6,000 were stolen in the capital alone. some blue badge holders are being forces to take extra precautions to keep theirs safe, as paul hawkins reports. another blue badge stolen in the capital. 6415 last year up 400% over nine years according to figures from the metropolitan police. here is the car, you come down and find it and you go oh no! the badge is gone. michael has had his badge taken four times is now paired locking it to his steering wheel. times is now paired locking it to his steering wheel. what i had to do to sto it his steering wheel. what i had to do to stop it being his steering wheel. what i had to do to stop it being stolen, his steering wheel. what i had to do to stop it being stolen, is. - his steering wheel. what i had to do to stop it being stolen, is. get- to stop it being stolen, is. get one of these, you have to put it inside the metal holder. then you have a piece of pvc over the top. it fits so you can be seen, then, you put that through and then you block it to your steering wheel. since having this it has not been taken yet. you will see on the street there are two other blue badge over there are two other blue badge over the road that have got padlocks on. the blue badge is part of being liberated, if i come down and find my car has been robbed of my blue badge and i m suddenly much more restricted and that is really what a blue badge is for, to open my welder will stop what would be your message for the people selling them? fitpplr; for the people selling them? apply for the people 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hawkins, bbc it is disabling people more. paul hawkins, bbc news. we are joined now by paul slowey, who is the founder of blue badge fraud investigations a community interest company who work with local authorities investigating badge fraud. good morning to you, thank you for joining us. itjust sounds absolutely disgusting behaviour. why has there been an increase in this, why are people taking such drastic action to get hold of the badge? thanks getting a stolen badge enables the criminal to a park for free, there is very little detection, i am quite shocked at the police advised to see you book disabled people to do something to prevent the crime rather than the police investigate the crime or solve the crime or prosecute people. the serial numbers on the front of the badge and there is a national database of badges and it is easy to put on the serial number into that database and detect it is stolen, and we seized a badge north of leicester square yesterday that was stolen, and speaking to the driver, he said he bought it on the street, and leicester square yesterday. we were talking among ourselves about this earlier this morning. if the cars can be registered to a database for the tax does, could there not be a similar system where car numberplates could be registered on a central database and parking enforcement could check that and removes the need to have a badge on display. the removes the need to have a badge on disla . , , , ., removes the need to have a badge on disla. , ,, ., ., display. the badge is issued to an individual not display. the badge is issued to an individual not a display. the badge is issued to an individual not a vehicle, display. the badge is issued to an individual not a vehicle, mick- display. the badge is issued to an i individual not a vehicle, mick might go in a different car, go out with his friends, lots of disabled people don t have a car, they are driven around by friends or family. don t have a car, they are driven around by friends orfamily. and family will use different cars. the badges are issued to an individual not to a vehicle. however, there is a national database with all the badges on it, and it has the six and a half thousand badges stolen last years and the serial numbers that database, it is a simple task of checking the badge against the database and if it comes up stolen the badge can be seized, the car can be seized. some authorities are brilliant at this and doing a great job. the majority are doing nothing stopping the police are doing nothing. there were two cars parked outside a police station with stolen badges and police walking past them all day. badges and police walking past them all da . ~ ., ., badges and police walking past them allda .~ ., ., badges and police walking past them allda . ~ ., ., ~ all day. what do you think the solution is, all day. what do you think the solution is, how all day. what do you think the solution is, how can all day. what do you think the solution is, how can it - all day. what do you think the solution is, how can it be - all day. what do you think the - solution is, how can it be stopped? it needs to be enforced, if you enforce the law people will lose the appetite to use a stolen badge, there is a real risk of people being prosecuted for fraud which is the fence they will stop seeing them. the courts have got powers to ban people from driving, power to seize vehicles, and in some authorities they are doing that, in some authorities they are prosecuting two or 300 people a year, and others they are doing nothing. people need to raise this with the councils, with mp5 and say, what is my counsel doing? fits with mps and say, what is my counsel doinu ? , , ., with mps and say, what is my counsel doint? a with mps and say, what is my counsel doint? ., , with mps and say, what is my counsel doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping the doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping the crime doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping the crime rather- doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping the crime rather than| be on stopping the crime rather than expect thing blue badge holders to prevent and themselves, we saw in the piece by paul some of the strange advice such as take the badge with you which obviously doesn t make sense because it has to be on display. what other advice do you have for blue badge holders to try to minimise the risk? the you have for blue badge holders to try to minimise the risk? try to minimise the risk? the first thin is try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick said try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick said lock try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick said lock the - try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick said lock the badge l try to minimise the risk? the first. thing is mick said lock the badge to your steering wheel, don t display it overnight because a lot of their happens overnight. the emphasis should not be on disabled people to change their behaviour the emphasis should be on police and local authorities to enforce the scheme and eradicate the use of stolen badges. that will solve the problem. i will give a quick example. when i was younger, they did not have barriers to travel on trains, they did not have inspectors on the whole. a lot of people used to travel on the trains for free. they introduced barriers and inspectors, they started to enforce the scheme by giving out fines and compliance went up. we can increase compliance with the blue badge scheme, notjust stolen badges but the misuse of badges if the scheme is enforced, in some places it is not being enforced and it has been around for over 50 years, some councils have never enforced the scheme which is a shocking. it needs to be enforced. thank you so much for taking the time to speak to us. paul slowly found blue badge investigations. andrew malkinson had been branded a monster after being convicted for the rape of a woman in 2003. but police had got the wrong man. after serving nearly two decades in prison for a crime he didn t commit, mr malkinson was released last year. speaking on a bbc documentary, he says he is still haunted by the ordeal, as our correspondent lindsey smith reports. 0rdinary people should be aware that they could be taken, it could happen to anyone. fish they could be taken, it could happen to an one. ., ., , ., ., to anyone. an ordinary man from grimsby who to anyone. an ordinary man from grimsby who suffered to anyone. an ordinary man from grimsby who suffered an - extraordinary miscarriage of justice. extraordinary miscarriage of ustice. , ., ,. , ., justice. these are describing a rape is especially justice. these are describing a rape is especially vicious. justice. these are describing a rape is especially vicious. in justice. these are describing a rape is especially vicious. in 2004 - is especially vicious. in 2004 andrew malkinson is especially vicious. in 2004 andrew malkinson was - is especially vicious. in 2004 - andrew malkinson was convicted of the rape of a mother in selford. when i said when he said i am taking you down i said i am completely innocent. so everyone could hear it, i was frightened. how will i survive in here for any length of time? will i survive in here for any lenath of time? , ., , ., length of time? the news devastating his famil in length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. as length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. as much - length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. as much as - length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. as much as i i his family in grimsby. as much as i don t want his family in grimsby. as much as i don t want to say his family in grimsby. as much as i don t want to say 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reaction is you will believe them because you are his mother. the you will believe them because you are his mother. are his mother. the documentary reveals how are his mother. the documentary reveals how four are his mother. the documentary reveals how four years are his mother. the documentary reveals how four years into - are his mother. the documentary reveals how four years into his i are his mother. the documentary| reveals how four years into his life sentence, another man s dna was found on the victim sjumbo. but he was refused an appeal. he served 17 years injail. 0n release he worked to get his conviction overturned. mr to get his conviction overturned. ii malcolm s and having waited so many malcolm s and having waited so many years you leave the court a free man of. no longer subject to the conditions. i of. no longer sub ect to the conditions. of. no longer sub ect to the conditions. ., ., ., ., ., conditions. i am not a liar. i am not in denial. conditions. i am not a liar. 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say to him i m sorry i never came to visit you in prison. i never came to visit you in prison. i m never came to visit you in prison. i m so never came to visit you in prison. i m so pleased never came to visit you in prison. i m so pleased is never came to visit you in prison. i m so pleased is back never came to visit you in prison. i m so pleased is back in- never came to visit you in prison. i m so pleased is back in my- never came to visit you in prison. i m so pleased is back in my life. | never came to visit you in prison. | i m so pleased is back in my life. i wasjust i m so pleased is back in my life. i wasiust so i m so pleased is back in my life. i was just so emotional. i m so pleased is back in my life. i wasjust so emotional. he - i m so pleased is back in my life. i wasjust so emotional. he is i i m so pleased is back in my life. i wasjust so emotional. he is free. | wasjust so emotional. he is free. greater wasjust so emotional. he is free. greater manchester wasjust so emotional. he is free. greater manchester police - wasjust so emotional. he is free. i greater manchester police apologised for the failings of their investigation, as yet nobody has been charged for the 2003 rape and attempted murder. lindsey smith, bbc news. you can hear more of andrew malkinson s story. on the wrong man: 17 years behind bars, which is available to watch now on bbc iplayer. sunday with laura kuenssberg is on bbc one at nine o clock this morning. let s find out what she has in store. good morning. it is busy and week three of this frantic election campaign and the pace is getting quicker and quicker and quicker. this morning will be asking how the tories can come back from the prime minister s disastrous blunder over leaving d day early, the tories have been rattled by that and panicking to losing votes of reform uk, and nigel farage shall be with us live this morning along with politicians from the tory party, labour and the s&p and a cracking panel as well! look forward to seeing you at nine o clock. more than 80 nautre conservation groups have come together to launch a legal bid to force the next government to do more in tackling the decline of wildlife in england. organisations including the national trust and the rspb are also calling for politicians from all parties to pledge to do more to boost bio diversity. 0ur rural affairs correspondent, malcolm prior, reports. water fails, waterfails, one of water fails, one of the waterfails, one of the most endangered species in the uk, but entering a comeback in this nature reserve in the cotswolds, a welcome success story when uk wildlife is in decline. it takes hard graft to bring nature back to life. it is hoped networks of small sites like these will kickstart a wider wildlife resurgence across the countryside. wildlife resurgence across the countryside- wildlife resurgence across the count side. ., , , countryside. the idea is then these areas can then countryside. the idea is then these areas can then expand countryside. the idea is then these areas can then expand into - countryside. the idea is then these areas can then expand into the i countryside. the idea is then these i areas can then expand into the wider countryside because we know that you re trying to manage a small nature reserve does not work. managing one reserve cannot work, we cannot do it on our own, we are small and charities and we need more political thinking, people higher up making the decisions to really improve nature. but making the decisions to really improve nature. improve nature. but to the volunteers improve nature. but to the volunteers believe - improve nature. but to the i volunteers believe politicians improve nature. but to the - volunteers believe politicians share their passion to protect nature? the state of their passion to protect nature? tie: state of nature report last year says nature is still in decline and it needs to be something they are acting on immediately. we it needs to be something they are acting on immediately. acting on immediately. we need commitment acting on immediately. we need commitment from acting on immediately. we need commitment from whatever i acting on immediately. we need - commitment from whatever government takes us commitment from whatever government takes us to commitment from whatever government takes us to the future to improve wildlife, takes us to the future to improve wildlife, to takes us to the future to improve wildlife, to improve peoples access to green wildlife, to improve peoples access to green spaces. you wildlife, to improve peoples access to green spaces- wildlife, to improve peoples access to green spaces. you cannot combat climate change to green spaces. you cannot combat climate change without to green spaces. you cannot combat climate change without also - to green spaces. you cannot combat climate change without also looking | climate change without also looking after the climate change without also looking after the wildlife. climate change without also looking after the wildlife. but climate change without also looking after the wildlife. after the wildlife. but this is about more after the wildlife. but this is about more than after the wildlife. but this is about more than election i after the wildlife. but this is i about more than election prattle pledges and promises. there are already legally binding targets in place to protect more sites like this and to stop the decline of wildlife by 2030 but there s also concerns that we are far from achieving that. a coalition of more than 80 wildlife conservation and countryside groups are now launching a legal bid to force whoever is in power next month to step up efforts to fight nature decline in england. there has been a long time decline of wildlife we see no sign that the policy in place right now will be able to halt and reverse the decline so we need whoever formed the next government to step up and make the investment, the legal changes and take the action necessary to start to turn things around. the department to turn things around. the department for to turn things around. the department for environment, food and rural affairs would not comment on any future legal action that current policy did not need to be reviewed until the end of january 2028. this is a uk wide issue, all four of the nation s administrations are committed to protecting 30% of lancia nature by that 2030 but three of the uk s biggest conservation groups, the national trust, the rspb, and the wildlife trust have joined forces to column politicians to more. irate joined forces to column politicians to more. ~ ., ., , ., to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis in to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis in such to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis in such an - to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis in such an extent| the nature crisis in such an extent that none of another political parties are taking the challenge seriously so why here to ask them to think about that and show us their response. irate think about that and show us their resonse. ~ .,. ., response. we need action within the first ear response. we need action within the first year of response. we need action within the first year of the response. we need action within the first year of the next response. we need action within the first year of the next government, i first year of the next government, nieaning first year of the next government, meaning they need detailed plans of how they meaning they need detailed plans of how they will turn things around, restore how they will turn things around, restore the abundance of nature, get it working restore the abundance of nature, get it working again. this restore the abundance of nature, get it working again- it working again. this coalition of rou -s is it working again. this coalition of groups is calling it working again. this coalition of groups is calling on it working again. this coalition of groups is calling on their- it working again. this coalition of groups is calling on their 8 i it working again. this coalition of| groups is calling on their 8 million plus members deport election candidates on the spot over nature decline. ., , u, candidates on the spot over nature decline. .,, u, , . candidates on the spot over nature decline. .,, , ., candidates on the spot over nature decline. , ., decline. people can play a part in this. absolutely, decline. people can play a part in this. absolutely, people - decline. people can play a part in this. absolutely, people should l decline. people can play a part in. this. absolutely, people should be asking candidates turning up on their doorstep and telling them what they want to see for this nature restoration programme. the conservatives restoration programme. the conservatives have - restoration programme. the conservatives have said they have clear policies to protect 30% of land by 2030, while labour launched a new countryside protection plan that it says will create new species rich habitats. the lib dems say they would double the amount of land would double the amount of [and protected for nature by 2050. like primary says more public investment is needed to support nature recovery while the s&p is also committed to halting biodiversity loss by 2030. no detail budgeting has been produced by any plans to protect uk wildlife. election promises are one thing but it is on the ground where the real work begins. malcolm prior, bbc news. election and the environment one of the key issues in this election. in the key issues in this election. in the meantime, here is some sport. and a focus on cricket? the meantime, here is some sport. and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble in and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble in the and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble in the t-20 - and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble in the t-20 cup. l in a bit of trouble in the t 20 cup. they were beaten heavily by australia last night, meaning england has started one draw, and high and they are running out of games, they have to be tomane and namibia heavily and hope australia beat another, scotland, namibia heavily and hope australia beatanother, scotland, in namibia heavily and hope australia beat another, scotland, in the same way to make sure they have a chance of getting through to the same stage. scotland are now in a position where they could stop england progressing. == position where they could stop england progressing. england s start of two matches no wins has put their chances of making the next stage in doubt. put into bat in barbados, david warner and travis head made a flying start 70 without loss in the 5th over australia reaching 201 7 from their 20 overs. in reply, england started strongly, captainjos buttler top scoring with 42 but they lost wickets at regular intervals and they ultimately fell well short of their target, losing by 36 runs. the situation we find ourselves in is the situation we find ourselves in. we have to be confident. keep our heads up and look forward to the next one and keep popping our chest out and play some really good cricket, which we know we are capable of. south africa remain top of their group after surviving a scare against the netherlands. chasing 104 to win, they were 12 for [i at one stage. but they managed the run chase well. an unbeaten 59 off 51 balls from david miller saw south africa win by four wickets. while, overnight, uganda were bowled out forjust 39 in their defeat to west indies. nearly a week on from the death of a rugby league legend, the sport had what is traditionally its biggest day of the season and the challenge cup finals at wembley provided a poignant backdrop to the commemorations of rob burrow. tributes were followed by the trophies for wigan s men and st helens women, as adam wild reports. a game and a chief befitting the memory of the great rob burrow. wigan warriors rugby league challenge cup winners, a moment of celebration and the culmination of a day of raw emotion. 0n the game s rangers stage, the sport had come together to remember an inspirational champion. fans from across the rugby inspirational champion. fans from across the rugby league inspirational champion. fans from | across the rugby league community gathering to pay their very own personal tribute to the late rob burrow, who passed awayjust a few days ago after his battle with motor neuron disease, tribute that will continue throughout the day. he meant everything, everything to me, the club, meant everything, everything to me, the club, the mnd community, amazing the club, the mnd community, amazinu. ,, ., the club, the mnd community, amazinu. ., ., , amazing. one thing rugby league does is look after its amazing. one thing rugby league does is look after its own amazing. one thing rugby league does is look after its own and amazing. one thing rugby league does is look after its own and we amazing. one thing rugby league does is look after its own and we come - is look after its own and we come togethen is look after its own and we come togethen no is look after its own and we come together. no matter is look after its own and we come together. no matter what- is look after its own and we come together. no matter what club i is look after its own and we come. together. no matter what club you are from. together. no matter what club you are from, everyone together. no matter what club you are from, everyone could - together. no matter what club you are from, everyone could see - together. no matter what club you i are from, everyone could see what he did as are from, everyone could see what he did as a are from, everyone could see what he did as a player are from, everyone could see what he did as a playerand are from, everyone could see what he did as a player and also are from, everyone could see what he did as a player and also as are from, everyone could see what he did as a player and also as a - are from, everyone could see what he did as a player and also as a human. did as a player and also as a human being did as a player and also as a human being afterwards. did as a player and also as a human being afterwards. he did as a player and also as a human being afterwards. did as a player and also as a human being afterwards. he was a star, he was a star- being afterwards. he was a star, he was a star. the being afterwards. he was a star, he was a star. the men s being afterwards. he was a star, he was a star. the men s showpiece i was a star. the men s showpiece final, warrington was a star. the men s showpiece final, warrington against - was a star. the men s showpiece final, warrington against wigan i final, warrington against wigan beginning after a minute silence, and it was weekend already raining super league and while club champions who took the first half lead, bevan french twisting and turning his way over. turning his way over. french, dazzling! turning his way over. french, dazzling! that, turning his way over. french, dazzling! that, their - turning his way over. french, dazzling! that, their second l turning his way over. french, i dazzling! that, their second try, the captain rampaging through to extend the captain rampaging through to extend the lead and from there, warrington would not find a way back warrington would not find a way back. wigan warriors, wembley winners back. wigan warriors, wembley winners once again. back. wigan warriors, wembley winners once again. earlier, there was no fairytale winners once again. earlier, there was no fairytale windfall- winners once again. earlier, there was no fairytale windfall leads. i winners once again. earlier, there! was no fairytale windfall leads. was no fairytale windfall leads. leads, beaten comprehensively by st helen s for the third year in a row. gorry for st helen s women and for wigan warriors men on a day when the whole sport of rugby league came together to celebrate one of its own. adam wild, bbc news, wembley. northampton s 10 year wait for a league title is over after the saints won a dramatic premiership final at twickenham. alex mitchell scored the winning try against bath, who were down to 11! men, with just seven minutes left as northampton claimed their second championship and a perfect send off for the departing courtenay lawes after 17 years with the club. not really sunk in yet because we have been so focused on this for so long, and during the game, and i just wanted the win, however you can. then you get there and you re like oh! have we done it? do you know what i mean? cannot put it into words. i think we deserved it. over the season we have been the best team and sometimes you have to find a way to win. team and sometimes you have to find a way to win- a way to win. apparently the goggles are because a way to win. apparently the goggles are because of a way to win. apparently the goggles are because of the a way to win. apparently the goggles are because of the champagne i a way to win. apparently the goggles| are because of the champagne spray! after a disappointing start to the french open for british singles players the tournament ended on a high with alfie hewett and gordon reid winning the men s wheelchair doubles title for a fifth successive year. another serial winner is iga swiatek. atjust 23 years of age she s a french open singles winner for the fourth time. she continued her recent dominance on the roland garros clay with a straight sets win against first time major finalist jasmine paolini of italy. it was swiatek s third title in a row in paris and a fifth grand slam triumph overall. it s the turn of the men this afternoon, with carlos alcaraz taking on germany s alexander zverev. it s the first time either man has reached the final in paris. zverev is searching for his first grand slam title whilst alcaraz is going for his third and hoping tojoin an illustrious list of spaniards to have won the title at roland garros. i wanted to put my name on that list of the spanish players who have won this tournament, not only rafa nadal, ferrero, moya, cluster, a lot of the spanish players and players from all of the players on the spot he won the tournament and i really want to put my name on the list as well costa. there are no easy matches and if yodre there are no easy matches and if yodre in there are no easy matches and if you re in the final at roland garros, you re in the final at roland garros, you deserve to be there and that went garros, you deserve to be there and that went for him as well. he played a fantastic that went for him as well. he played a fantastic match and tournament in general a fantastic match and tournament in general and a fantastic match and tournament in generaland i m a fantastic match and tournament in general and i m expecting a very difficult general and i m expecting a very difficult match. it s the final few days of pre euros friendies and spain appear to be in good form although it was northern ireland that bore the brunt of it. not immediately though, sunderland defender daniel ballard gave northern ireland a shock lead just 67 seconds after kick off in majorca. but things soon turned as they conceded four goals in the first half and eventually lost 5 1. northern ireland should have an easier game against andorra on tuesday. spain face a far sterner test in their opening match of the euros against croatia on saturday. great britain have won their first medals at the european athletics championships in rome with romell glave taking bronze in the 100 metres. the race was won by olympic champion marceljacobs in a time of 10.02 seconds as he successfully defended his european sprint title on a golden night for hosts italy in rome, who won three medals. it s glaves first senior championship medal. it is incredible. i wanted to get the gold but i have to take the positive on top of that. positive things to take from here and just go back and look at the video and work on my weaknesses. george mills won silver in the men s 5000 metres, finishing behind norwegian starjakob ingebrigtsen. mills is the son of former england internationalfootballer danny mills and he s now got his sights set on the paris olympics next month. some want to run the 15 and the five in paris and hopefully tonight has done my chances of selection no harm. we will see. we re three weeks out until trials and straight back to training as of tomorrow and then get stuck in. )and it looks like the mercedes formula one team could be challenging for race wins again after george russell claimed pole for this evening s canadian grand prix. the briton recorded a time of one minute and twelve seconds exactly on his first run in the final session of qualifying in montreal. championship leader max verstappen posted exactly the same time in his red bull but because russell did it first he gets to start from the top spot forjust the second time in his career. that race is on later. you can listen to it on radio 5 live, coverage starting at 630. time for a check on the weather and it s not feeling particularly summary. what is going on with the temperature? good morning. it feels like spring has kept on giving at the moment! to give you an idea of where we should be in terms of average temperatures, generally around 16 20 degrees across the uk but all parts of the uk below that, even caller on monday and tuesday, even some areas around five degrees lower than we expect. this chilly round of whether will continue and it could fill caller as we start the coming week and it s down to this area of low pressure. it is moving eastwards and drags down air from the north and some complication today is this cloud rolling in on a weather front, outbreaks of rain which are persistent in the west today and that will run into parts of southwest scotland, northern england and patches of rain and drizzle throughout the day. some sunny spells and showers but quite a cool breeze and to the south of it, blue skies overhead for many. more car through the afternoon. sunny throughout the channel islands and parts of the far southwest and temperatures down where we should be and similarto temperatures down where we should be and similar to what they were yesterday. the rain this evening will gradually clear and spread across england and wales overnight and persistent parts of northern england and midlands and east anglia by the morning and clear skies by the end of the night sees the temperatures dropped lois down to three degrees in some valleys. this area of low pressure pushing its way eastwards and opened the floodgates to even more northerly winds. temperatures will drop a little bit more. could be a foggy morning across parts of yorkshire, east midlands, lincolnshire, anglia, and clearing parts of east anglia and away from that sunny spells developing and shower clouds brewing in the afternoon and anyway could see a shower pastor on the northerly breeze. cloudier without later on in the far north of scotland. the northerly wind strengthens further into monday evening. still feeling a little bit like spring. we ll be back with the headlines at eight but now it s time for this week s click. we choose to go to the moon in this decade. not because it is easy because it is hard. decade. not because it is easy because it is hard. one small step for man. because it is hard. one small step for man- one because it is hard. one small step for man. one giant because it is hard. one small step for man. one giant leap because it is hard. one small step for man. one giant leap for i because it is hard. one small step i for man. one giant leap for mankind. 52 years for man. one giant leap for mankind. 52 years ago for man. one giant leap for mankind. 52 years ago we laid our last footprint on the moon. as the crew of apollo 17 left the surface they did not know gene simmons would be the last person to walk on another world. we re on our way, houston. but now, in this decade, finally. ..we re going back. mission control: and lift off of artemis 1. nasa s artemis programme will, in the next year or two, return us to our neighbour. part of its mission to land the first woman and the first person of colour on the moon. another part to use what we learn here to send the first astronauts to mars. this is where it all began florida s kennedy space center named after the president who made the original pledge to go to the moon. and now, this place is at the centre of even grander plans, because this time, we re notjust visiting the moon we want to stay. this is gateway, humanity s first space station that will orbit another world. it will go round the moon every seven days. and, like the international space station above earth, astronauts will call this place home . although, where the iss can accommodate up to 12 astronauts and is comparable to a five or six bedroom house, gateway will be.more cosy. gateway is a studio apartment. it s. we re going to have room for our four astronauts, multiple docking ports, so we can bring our orion crew transportation ship, we can bring logistics, and we can dock a lander. these four explorers won t all be cooped up on board for the whole time, though. two will actually be spending a week or two on location, down on the lunar surface. it s a chance to further study the landscape and hopefully find a location for our next giant leap a permanent moon base. gateway will be there before we put a habitat on the surface. gateway allows us to access any point on the lunar surface. when we went with apollo, we had to pick that spot on the moon and go to it. gateway will give us the opportunity to go down at different locations. the first section of gateway could be launched as early as 2025, with new modules then being added from 2027. a lunar base is admittedly further out and it comes with risk, but also reward. so, how do we make that a reality? to find out, it s time for me to take one small step of my own. oh, wow. i can instantly see the dust kind of kicking up. yeah. it s really fine, isn t it? it leaves the footprints like you d expect. oh, my gosh. that s brilliant. and this is how moon dust behaves, itjust puffs up like that? it does, yeah. it s so fine. welcome to swamp works. ..the dusty, dirty lab where they work with simulated moon dust. now, the loose soil that covers the lunar surface is called regolith. it s extremely fine, very sharp on a microscopic scale, and it gets everywhere. so when we landed with apollo 11, we didn t know what the surface of the moon exactly was going to be like. you ll notice from some of the footage, the landing pads are quite huge on the landing legs and the ladder s far away from the surface. there was a lot of concern of, how much will this lander sink into the surface? how fluffy is this regolith? the surface is fine and powdery. i can.| can pick it up loosely with my toe. in fact, it s because the eagle lander didn t sink in as much as expected that neil armstrong had to take such a giant leap from the bottom rung of the ladder. today, swamp works is developing robots that can cope with and take advantage of lunar soil. and it will be very useful. see, moon dust is made of materials like silicon dioxide and calcium oxide, which all contain a lot of oxygen. if we could mine the regolith and use chemical processes to extract the oxygen, we could make our own breathable air and our own rocket fuel. the way space flight exploration has been working right now is imagine you re going on a holiday with your family, you re going on a long road trip, thousands of miles, right? right now, we are bringing a trailer behind us with all the gas, you know, that we need with us, all the fuel, everything that we need comes with us. so we want to change that paradigm. we want to. and one of the biggest things that makes the biggest impact is the fuel, right? if we can source some of that from the moon and eventually from mars, that will allow us to bring more and to go more often. making our own fuel makes regular trips to and from the gateway space station much more viable. now, mining moon dust is called isru. and, because they love an acronym round these parts, the robot to do this will be called the isru pilot excavator, ipex. we had to really reinvent how you do excavation for doing mining on the moon, and eventually mars. the challenge is the technology we have for mining here on earth relies on a lot of mass and a lot of weight, right? the more steel you put on an excavator, the heavier it becomes and the better it digs. we can t launch something as heavy as we want on a rocket. it s still very expensive, right? so we have to reduce the mass of what we put on rockets. and then when you land it on the moon, it weighs one sixth of what it does here on earth, right? imagine, like, trying to dig as if you were on ice, right? it will just scoot across the surface. the scoop will not engage and you won t be able to collect anything. so the way the robot scoops up the dust is using this thing called a bucket drum. and it s got a kind of spiral in there. and if it turns it one way, it scoops the soil, which gradually works its way towards the middle and stays there. like that. and then when it wants to unload. ..it turns it the other way and it all comes out again. we put them on opposite ends of the robot and when it excavates, it s using both sets of drums at the same time, but they re digging in opposite directions. so one is pulling it that way and one is pulling it that way. right. ..and pulling itself down to the surface. yeah. one of the main dangers faced by extraterrestrial rovers is getting stuck. so, as an added bonus, ipex s scoops and arms can also help it to get out of a hole orflip it over if it takes a tumble. one of its other defences will keep its cameras free from all that electrostatic dust, now, just like the fuel situation, we can t take building materials with us to the moon either we have to make our structures from moon dust. these bricks and blocks and bars have all been made by mixing and melting regolith with plastic. in the future, giant 3d printers will build shelters to protect those living on a world with no atmosphere from radiation, asteroid and micrometeoroid impacts, moonquakes and temperatures ranging from +100 to 200 degrees celsius. even replacement parts can be made from regolith. so this is a wheel that has been printed with regolith and polymer. ok. this is another example of what we can do if we capture the resources from the moon. now, do you know, i ve seen and held wheels for rovers before, full size wheels, and they re really light. right. but this is really heavy. yes, this is the opposite. because those wheels that are light, especially if you re sending it on a rocket, they need to be light because it s expensive. this is heavy because it s made on the moon. and heavy wheels are a good thing, i guess. it s better, right? especially for a digger like that. like the more weight that we have on the excavator, the better it s going to perform. would you believe you can even make rope out of regolith? this is made from basalt glass really, really thin fibres, a bit like optic fibre. so you could even make rope out of moon dust. these are hopeful times for space exploration, but it s always been a risky endeavour. im 1 odysseus lunar lander separation confirmed. this year, we ve seen three probes sent to the moon. two made it, and both of those had, shall we say, awkward landings. and the artemis mission to put boots back on the lunar ground has been pushed back to 2026 at the earliest. but nasa says space explorers need to take these setbacks in their stride. i don t see it as a disappointment. it s very cliche to say space is hard, but what we re endeavouring to do is highly complex. we expect challenges along the way so this doesn t surprise us and we re pushing forward. it sounds really expensive to do space exploration. is it, and is it worth it? so, yes, it s really expensive. it was really expensive for us to explore this planet, really expensive to lay rail infrastructure, to lay highway infrastructure, to put the infrastructure in place that allows us to travel in air traffic around this globe. it s absolutely necessary for us to lay that critical infrastructure for going to space, because what we learn in that endeavour is tremendous. the exponential growth that we ve seen in the world in technology is because of great endeavours like this. it s absolutely worth it. here in the united states, every year the general population is spending as much money on potato chips as our budget is every year to go out to the moon. that s a good figure. this has been a fascinating trip to nasa. motivation may be different to the space race of the 1960s. but the size of the ambition is just as great today. as we shoot for the moon, once again. good morning, welcome to breakfast with luxmy gopal and ben boulos. our headlines today. the eu s most senior diplomat has condemned the killing of palestinians in an israeli operation to rescue four hostages. the mission was to bring home the captives who had been held in gaza since the hamas attacks eight months ago. election campaigning continues across the country ahead of a key week in which parties will set out their manifestos. after new cctv emerges of the tv presenter michael mosley who vanished on a greek island on wednesday his wife says she will not lose hope . in sport, england s defence of the t20 world cup is in danger they re still to win in the tournament after a hefty defeat by australia in barbados in their second game. whilst there ll be a sunny start to sunday for some of you, a lot more cloud around today. that cloud increases, thickens, and we ll see some patchy rain, too. i ll have all the details here on breakfast. good morning, it s sunday the 9th ofjune. our main story. israel has been criticised by the european union s most senior diplomat over the killing of dozens of palestinians in an operation to rescue four hostages in gaza. eu foreign policy chief josep borrell called the reports another massacre of civilians . the mission to bring home the captives involved air strikes around a refugee camp. our middle east correspondent hugo bachega reports. the moment she was made free. 25 year old noa argamani captured by hamas on the 7th of october and taken to gaza is finally back in israel. this is her being reunited with her dad after a dramatic rescue. translation: please don t forget that there are another 120 - hostages in captivity. we must release them and make every effort in any way to bring them to israel and their families. by the way, it s my birthday look what a gift i got! also freed andrei kozlov, who s 27, shlomi ziv 40, and almog meirjan 21. eight months ago, they were at the nova music festival in southern israel, when hamas gunmen attacked. more than 360 people were killed here. the four hostages were rescued in a major operation by the israeli military in the nuseirat refugee camp in central gaza. special forces went in. the military said this was a complex operation, and based on intelligence information. the four hostages, it said, were found at two separate locations in the heart of the camp, and were brought out under fire. israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. they underwent intensive training. they risked their lives to save the lives of our hostages. but the rescue mission brought even more suffering to gaza. there was chaos and desperation at the nearby al aqsa hospital. doctors were unable to treat all the wounded. many people arrived already dead. translation: we were at home. a rocket hit us. my two cousins died, and my other two cousins were seriously injured. they did nothing they were sitting at home. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu visited the freed hostages in a hospital near tel aviv. he s being urged to reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal with hamas. the rescue was considered a success by the israeli authorities, and could change the calculation of a leader under pressure. hugo bachega, bbc news, tel aviv. our correspondent jon donnison is injerusalem. what reaction has there been? certainly do need here in israel has been one of celebration and relief, not least by the relatives of those four micro hostages who have not seen their loved ones for 246 days and i do think, as hugo suggested, it eases the pressure on prime minister netanyahu because it allows him to say, look, his strategy is working. he believes the best way to get the remaining hostages out, and there are some 116 people captured on october seven still being held, 40 on october seven still being held, a0 or so of whom are thought to be dead stop he believes the best way is to apply military pressure on hammers. hamas. there is outrage at the number of civilians killed. we have seen really discerning images from the two main hospitals in the centre of gaza, with scores of casualties being brought in, many women and children. there has also been strong condemnation from the eu s most senior diplomat, who said this was another massacre, and called for the bloodbath to end immediately. an israeli minister fired back, saying shame on you, instead of criticising hamas for holding civilians in civilian neighbourhoods, he was targeting israel for trying to rescue its citizens. ., ., ., citizens. for the moment, thanks very much- citizens. for the moment, thanks very much- jon citizens. for the moment, thanks very much. jon donnison - citizens. for the moment, thanks very much. jon donnison in i very much. jon donnison in jerusalem. back here. we are hurtling towards the general election. now less than a month away. so the battle to win votes intensifies. campaigning continues ahead of what is likely to be a busy week in the lead up to the general election, with another scheduled election tv debate and manifestos set to be published. our political correspondent iain watson has this report. just when you get a bit stressed. the prime minister s in the market for votes. the main westminster parties will launch their manifestos in the week ahead. rishi sunak will be hoping that this moves the focus firmly onto policy, not personality. he ll be keen to move on from his d day apology, but what s the mood in his party? his candidates like him have been out campaigning this weekend, and we ve been speaking to some of them. some have spoken about anger and disappointment. one of them despairingly said, whatever is going to happen next? will the prime minister s trousers fall down? others say that voters haven t raised the issue at all, and one candidate said that those who are so vexed by this have already defected to labour or reform. the prime minister will be hoping to keep his job after polling day onjuly the ath, and he wants to get more people into work. he s promising to spend £700 million to help people struggling with mental health to rejoin and stay in the workforce. but he s also repeating previous announcements to toughen up benefits rules. the conservatives claim they could save £12 billion from the welfare bill by the end of the next parliament. labour say existing jails are bursting at the seams, and that the government has failed to provide the 20,000 more prison places that it promised. if elected, the party says it will deliver that prison building programme, and change the planning laws to make it a priority. they ll also give offenders more help to get into employment. the state of the nhs has been prominent in the lib dems campaign they say they want to take pressure off the ambulance system by expanding urgent care centres and providing a thousand more hospital beds. information on local ambulance response times would also be made readily available. so today, we get a sneak preview of the manifestos but it s not until the full range of policies are published that we ll know how well they connect with voters. iain watson, bbc news. we are nowjoined by our political correspondentjessica parker. good morning. this week we are expecting more detail as the parties set out their policies. yes. set out their policies. yes, absolutely. set out their policies. yes, absolutely. the set out their policies. yes, absolutely. the key - set out their policies. yes, absolutely. the key week, | set out their policies. yes, | absolutely. the key week, i set out their policies. yes, - absolutely. the key week, i think, in the election campaign. because what we have had so far are glimpses of what is going to be in the manifesto, and a drip feed of policy announcements from the different parties. and that can, i think, feel like there is a lot of noise going around, it can be hired to keep track of exactly who has said what. what the manifestos do, as many will know, they are documents where parties lay out their promises or at least their intentions for government, if they were to win power. and crucially, as well, costings should really be provided and people might have noticed there has been a lot of back and forth, wrangling, particularly between the conservative party and the labour party about how they are actually going to pay for things and the public finances. manifestos really allow fresh scrutiny of that. they aren t that holistic package of they are a package of promises from they are a package of promises from the parties. as we expect to get them from the main parties over the next week or so, it will be a gear change to the campaign, a key moment in this general election campaign. thank you. we will be discussing policies in a bit more detail shortly. the search for the tv presenter michael mosley will resume on the greek island of symi after he went missing while out on a walk on wednesday. our correspondent joe inwood is in symi. the temperatures have affected the search. in the temperatures have affected the search. ., , ., ., ,., search. in the last hour or so we have heard search. in the last hour or so we have heard that search. in the last hour or so we have heard that a search. in the last hour or so we have heard that a police - search. in the last hour or so we have heard that a police dog i search. in the last hour or so we | have heard that a police dog that came over, we saw it coming over on the ferry, has been sent back to athens because it is just too hot for it to operate. apparently it was getting exhausted in the heat and burning its paws on the rocks. it doesn t indicate, we don t think it indicates they are changing the search, just that it seems the dogs are not able to operate on a hillside for long periods of time. despite that, the search is continuing, it is going on. they are basically working their way methodically across this stretch of land. it is a significant area they are trying to cover, though, and though there is not much cover there, there are caves, places that michael mosley could have tried to take shelter so they are obviously trying to search every inch of this hillside. trying to search every inch of this hillside. . , ., ., , hillside. and his wife clare has said that the hillside. and his wife clare has said that the family hillside. and his wife clare has said that the family would i hillside. and his wife clare has said that the family would not| hillside. and his wife clare has i said that the family would not lose hope. said that the family would not lose ho e, r , , said that the family would not lose ho e. , ,., , , said that the family would not lose hoe. , . ., said that the family would not lose hoe. , , ., ., hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by the hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by the mayor i hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by the mayor of i hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by the mayor of the | that was echoed by the mayor of the town, symi, who said they are going town, symi, who said they are going to continue searching for as long as it takes to find michael mosley. that statement from clare also thanked the people of this village, of this island, the greek authorities and the british consul for all the work they are doing, saying these have been the most terrible days. i am sure we can all imagine. terrible days. i am sure we can all imauine. ., ~ terrible days. i am sure we can all imauine. . ,, i. terrible days. i am sure we can all imauine. ., ~ ,, . terrible days. i am sure we can all imauine. ., ~ ,, . ., imagine. thank you, joe inwood in 5 mi and imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we will imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we will update imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we will update you i imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we will update you on i imagine. thank you, joe inwood in| symi and we will update you on any updates in the next hour. south korea says it will resume propaganda broadcasts against north korea for the first time in six years. seoul s national security council said its decision to install loudspeakers and begin broadcasts was in response to pyongyang s campaign of sending balloons carrying rubbish across the border. the council added that any attempt at causing distress to the people of south korea was unacceptable. narendra modi is set to be sworn in as prime minister of india for his third term today. he ll be sworn in alongside his cabinet as he heads a coalition of 15 parties following last week s election results. it makes him prime ministerfor a historic third consecutive term. an 11 year old girl is among four people who were injured after a fun fair ride malfunctioned in lambeth in south london. our reporter helena wilkinson is at the lambeth country show where it happened. good morning. what more can you tell us? ., , good morning. what more can you tell us? . . , , ., , good morning. what more can you tell us? . , , ., , . good morning. what more can you tell us? are really serious incident took lace here us? are really serious incident took place here yesterday us? are really serious incident took place here yesterday just us? are really serious incident took place here yesterdayjust before i place here yesterdayjust before 6:30pm. the fairground isjust behind me. iwanted 6:30pm. the fairground isjust behind me. i wanted to show you and live aerial view of the fairground itself. you will be able to see some of the rides in the fairground. there is some tarpaulin around one of them, but it is not clear, and we don t know rather, which is the ride that suffered that malfunction yesterday. what happened was a huge emergency response, as you would imagine. the airambulance emergency response, as you would imagine. the air ambulance arrived here. also four ambulance crews and paramedics. they treated an 11 year old girl, a man and woman in their a0s, also another man in his 50s here. they were then transferred to major trauma units. we know that their conditions are not life threatening, but we don t know what injuries they sustained during the incident here yesterday. the council says a thorough investigation will go on to establish why a ride here at the fairground malfunctioned, and the health and safety executive is also going to be informed. health and safety executive is also going to be informed. thank you, our correspondent going to be informed. thank you, our correspondent helena going to be informed. thank you, our correspondent helena wilkinson, i going to be informed. thank you, our correspondent helena wilkinson, andj correspondent helena wilkinson, and there is more on the bbc news website, as well. a world war ii veteran has married his bride on the 80th anniversary of d day near the beaches of normandy in france. harold terens, a 100 year old us army air force veteran from florida, tied the knot with 96 year old jeanne swerlin at a ceremony in carentan les marais, in northwestern france. originally from new york, harold visited france as an air force corporal shortly after d day, when he was just 20 years old. to top off the extraordinary day, the newly wedded couple then attended the state banquet in paris thrown by president macron for us leaderjoe biden. here is what the happy couple had to say. i m100 years old and my bridge is 96. i m100 years old and my bride is 96. and to be married in carentan. it s my second favourite normandy is my second favourite place in the whole world. i could live here for the rest of my life and be as happy as could be. do you feel young again? oh, yeah! at 96, i feel like. my god, i got butterfliesjust like the young people. - i mean it it s notjust for young people, love, you know? - we get butterflies and we get a little action also! laughter oh, that is brilliant, i love that. 96 year old jeanne and if i could have a fraction of the amount of energy she has. may be tying the knot, it s a good outfit for a. his knot, it s a good outfit for a. no wonder knot, it s a good outfit for a. in; wonder they have smiles on their faces! let s get the weather. blue skies over one part of the post dinner glucose but they will be looking with envy. they certainly will. lighting the smile they certainly will. lighting the smile across many in southern and centrai smile across many in southern and central areas. a few in eastbourne a short central areas. a few in eastbourne a short while central areas. a few in eastbourne a short while ago, looking mediterranean but let me take you north mediterranean but let me take you north towards anglesey and close to hotyhead north towards anglesey and close to holyhead. different colour of sky. the cloud holyhead. different colour of sky. the cloud has rolled in and it is that the cloud has rolled in and it is that which the cloud has rolled in and it is that which will become a bit more dominant that which will become a bit more dominant overhead for many as we go through dominant overhead for many as we go through the dominant overhead for many as we go through the coming hours and into the afternoon. a lot of it has been streaming the afternoon. a lot of it has been streaming out of the north atlantic, this strip streaming out of the north atlantic, this strip here, pushing its way, bringing this strip here, pushing its way, bringing outbreaks of rain and drizzle bringing outbreaks of rain and drizzle to bringing outbreaks of rain and drizzle to northern ireland, parts of southern scotland and north west england of southern scotland and north west england and north west wales. breaks up england and north west wales. breaks up at times england and north west wales. breaks up at times across south east scotland up at times across south east scotland and north east england, so there scotland and north east england, so there will scotland and north east england, so there will be some sunshine in the sunshine there will be some sunshine in the sunshine in there will be some sunshine in the sunshine in south wales, the midlands, southwards, that will give way to midlands, southwards, that will give way to a midlands, southwards, that will give way to a lot more cloud, parts of devon, way to a lot more cloud, parts of devon, cornwall, dorset, channel tines devon, cornwall, dorset, channel lines will devon, cornwall, dorset, channel lines will stay sunny all day. still some lines will stay sunny all day. still some sunny spells by the north but a few showers. here is the cloudy is to spot few showers. here is the cloudy is to spot where the rain and drizzle will keep to spot where the rain and drizzle will keep coming and going and in northern will keep coming and going and in northern ireland, particularly to the west. northern ireland, particularly to the west, is where the rain is heavier the west, is where the rain is heavier and more persistent into the afternoon heavier and more persistent into the afternoon. it will feel rather chilly afternoon. it will feel rather chilly here, ten to 13 degrees. simitar chilly here, ten to 13 degrees. similar story in northern scotland. elsewhere. similar story in northern scotland. elsewhere, around 13 to 16 for many, maybe elsewhere, around 13 to 16 for many, maybe 19 elsewhere, around 13 to 16 for many, maybe 19 and some of the brighter spots maybe 19 and some of the brighter spots in maybe 19 and some of the brighter spots in the south. a wet evening in northern spots in the south. a wet evening in northern ireland, the rain then spreads northern ireland, the rain then spreads across much of england and wales spreads across much of england and wales. there will be some southern counties wales. there will be some southern counties not seen much of anything at att~ counties not seen much of anything at all. persistent rain by the end of the at all. persistent rain by the end of the night for some eastern parts of the night for some eastern parts of in the of the night for some eastern parts of in the. scotland and northern ireland, of in the. scotland and northern ireland, it of in the. scotland and northern ireland, it will clear and with clear ireland, it will clear and with clear skies and shelter from the breeze, clear skies and shelter from the breeze, some valleys could see temperatures down to 2 or three degrees temperatures down to 2 or three degrees. not helped by the fact you have northerly flow into monday, low pressure have northerly flow into monday, low pressure continuing to pull eastwards. the weather system you saw in eastwards. the weather system you saw in the eastwards. the weather system you saw in the chart, here it is, parts of of saw in the chart, here it is, parts of of yorkshire, linkage, east midlands, east anglia will stop a wet and midlands, east anglia will stop a wet and windy and cool start to monday wet and windy and cool start to monday. outbreaks of rain continuing in east monday. outbreaks of rain continuing in east anglia, brightening to the afternoon in east anglia, brightening to the afternoon. elsewhere, sunny skies will develop quite widely through the morning and then shower clouds will develop. some on the heavy side will develop. some on the heavy side. wintry in the scottish mountains and a bit more cloud to take away mountains and a bit more cloud to take away some of that sunshine in the north take away some of that sunshine in the north of take away some of that sunshine in the north of scotland. temperatures drop further into monday, a cool start drop further into monday, a cool start to drop further into monday, a cool start to the week, 5 or 6 degrees lower start to the week, 5 or 6 degrees lower than start to the week, 5 or 6 degrees lower than normal thanks to the northerly lower than normal thanks to the northerly winds and that cool it feel certainly there on tuesday, as wett~ feel certainly there on tuesday, as well. bright start for many, there whitst well. bright start for many, there whilst it well. bright start for many, there whilst it will feel cool it is not will be whilst it will feel cool it is not will be particularly wet. many places will be particularly wet. many places will be dry. even in a northerly places will be dry. even in a northerly wind we will see some showers northerly wind we will see some showers develop, central and eastern areas showers develop, central and eastern areas most showers develop, central and eastern areas most prone. some of the heaviest areas most prone. some of the heaviest of those. look at those temperatures, ten to 16 or 17 degrees. temperatures, ten to 16 or 17 degrees. certainly doesn t look, or will feel. degrees. certainly doesn t look, or will feel, like early summer, that is how will feel, like early summer, that is how it will feel, like early summer, that is how it goes for the rest of the week is how it goes for the rest of the week. temperatures are fairly sinritar week. temperatures are fairly sinritar a week. temperatures are fairly similar. a few showers around at times similar. a few showers around at times but similar. a few showers around at times but equally a bit of sunshine. thank you. short changed the temperatures but at least a bit of sunshine. thank you. even though the temperatures may not feel like it we are not far off in july. with under a month to go until the general election it s been another busy week in politics with headlines domimated by party manifestos and d day commemorations. here to discuss what we can expect over the next week is aubrey allegretti, the chief political correspondent from the times and sonia sodha, a former labour advisor and observer columnist. good morning to you both. thank you forjoining us. aubrey, one key development in the past week is nigel farage and he was obviously part of the election debate, he will be on laura kuenssberg later this morning. the key question, how does he change the dynamic and the pressure on the conservative party? reform has been polling around 12% to 15% reform has been polling around 12% to 15% over reform has been polling around 12% to 15% over the last few months and i suppose to 15% over the last few months and i suppose there has been a question about i suppose there has been a question about whether or not that was the ceiling about whether or not that was the ceiling at about whether or not that was the ceiling at which they might reach. nigel ceiling at which they might reach. nigel farage has come into the fray both to nigel farage has come into the fray both to lead the party and stand as a candidate, that has rattled lots of conservative mps in a mostly red wall of conservative mps in a mostly red watt areas. of conservative mps in a mostly red wall areas, who think the reform vote is wall areas, who think the reform vote is most concentrated. they have said, vote is most concentrated. they have said. as vote is most concentrated. they have said. as the vote is most concentrated. they have said, as the election was getting closer. said, as the election was getting closer. the said, as the election was getting closer, the minds of voters were being closer, the minds of voters were being narrowed around the two opportunities they thought would be most likely to lead country as prime minister. most likely to lead country as prime minister, rishi sunak and keir starnrer minister, rishi sunak and keir starmer. but since nigel farage s announcement, the reform vote has heightened again and they are concerned it could take lots of votes concerned it could take lots of votes of concerned it could take lots of votes of the conservative party without votes of the conservative party without necessarily leading to reform without necessarily leading to reform making the breakthrough is it might reform making the breakthrough is it might need in the first past the post might need in the first past the post system to get seats in parliament. post system to get seats in parliament. ., ., , , post system to get seats in parliament. . . , , . parliament. sonia, it has been a busy week- parliament. sonia, it has been a busy week. what parliament. sonia, it has been a busy week. what is parliament. sonia, it has been a busy week. what is your - parliament. sonia, it has been a busy week. what is your take i parliament. sonia, it has been aj busy week. what is your take on parliament. sonia, it has been a i busy week. what is your take on the key moments we have seen? i busy 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that translate into seats not necessarily see that translate into seats for not necessarily see that translate into seats for reform not necessarily see that translate into seats for reform but - not necessarily see that translate into seats for reform but they. not necessarily see that translate i into seats for reform but they will take votes into seats for reform but they will take votes from into seats for reform but they will take votes from the into seats for reform but they will take votes from the conservativesi take votes from the conservatives and make take votes from the conservatives and make it take votes from the conservatives and make it easier take votes from the conservatives and make it easier therefore - take votes from the conservatives and make it easier therefore for. and make it easier therefore for labour and make it easier therefore for labour to and make it easier therefore for labour to win and make it easier therefore for labour to win it and make it easier therefore for labour to win it so and make it easier therefore for labour to win it so they - and make it easier therefore for labour to win it so they will - and make it easier therefore for| labour to win it so they will give labour labour to win it so they will give labour arr labour to win it so they will give labour an advantage labour to win it so they will give labour an advantage in - labour to win it so they will give labour an advantage in labour. labour an advantage in labour conservative labour an advantage in labour conservative marginal- labour an advantage in labour conservative marginal seats. i labour an advantage in labour. conservative marginal seats. the labour an advantage in labour- conservative marginal seats. the net effect conservative marginal seats. the net effect of conservative marginal seats. the net effect of nigel conservative marginal seats. the net effect of nigel farage conservative marginal seats. the net effect of nigel farage will conservative marginal seats. the net effect of nigel farage will probably. effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the size effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the size of effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the size of the - effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the size of the labourl be to boost the size of the labour majority, be to boost the size of the labour majority, so be to boost the size of the labour majority, so att be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in all be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in all a be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in all a very- be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in all a very bad . majority, so all in all a very bad week majority, so all in all a very bad week for majority, so all in all a very bad week for the majority, so all in all a very bad week for the conservatives. - majority, so all in all a very bad week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases we week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases we hear - week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases we hear a - week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases we hear a lot, i one of the phrases we hear a lot, awful phrase, is cooked through. how much of the chat in the westminster bubble and all of this actually reaches people at home cut through. not least rishi sunak s absence from the latter part of the d day celebrations but also the election debate. how much do you think the debate that was broadcast on friday actually made a difference to voters minds? it is on friday actually made a difference to voters minds? to voters minds? it is a really interesting to voters minds? it is a really interesting question to voters minds? it is a really interesting question and - to voters minds? it is a really interesting question and to i to voters minds? it is a really interesting question and to be honest interesting question and to be honest both parties are asking themselves it because the poles have been stubbornly not moving the bolts been stubbornly not moving the bolts have been stubbornly not moving the polls have been not moving for 18 months polls have been not moving for 18 months since rishi sunak became prime months since rishi sunak became prime minster. during the heat of the election campaign, and certainly the election campaign, and certainly the conservative party were hoping they would have narrowed that breed. the thought that more people would like rishi the thought that more people would like rishi sunak s forensics style and people would buy into his claims but that and people would buy into his claims but that has not been borne out in the potting but that has not been borne out in the polling so we suspected probably take three or four days for the major take three or four days for the major news events, including things like rishi major news events, including things like rishi sunak singh the final part of like rishi sunak singh the final part of the d day commemorations and tv debates part of the d day commemorations and tv debates devoted to the public consciousness and for us to be able to measure. consciousness and for us to be able to measure, has there been an impact? to measure, has there been an impact? probably slightly too early to tell, impact? probably slightly too early to tell, but certainly aren t rishi sunak s to tell, but certainly aren t rishi sunak s actions there was a conservative mp who said this will realty conservative mp who said this will really stick in the point of people i really stick in the point of people i spoke really stick in the point of people i spoke to really stick in the point of people i spoke to. theresa may in 2017, commemorating victims of grenfell tower commemorating victims of grenfell tower fire, commemorating victims of grenfell tower fire, the queen stepped into the breach tower fire, the queen stepped into the breach and in this case it was rishi the breach and in this case it was rishi suhak the breach and in this case it was rishi sunak keir starmer meeting people rishi sunak keir starmer meeting people rishi sunak could have otherwise done on wednesday. this will be otherwise done on wednesday. this will be remembered as a really significant moment. the tv debate is interesting significant moment. the tv debate is interesting. mostly about whether we are irr interesting. mostly about whether we are in post interesting. mostly about whether we are in post tbh for these debates. i beobte are in post tbh for these debates. i people much more attuned to social media people much more attuned to social media and people much more attuned to social media and getting their news that way? media and getting their news that way? the media and getting their news that way? the political market is probably way? the political market is probably very grateful that the social probably very grateful that the social media clips are being picked up social media clips are being picked up but social media clips are being picked up but i social media clips are being picked up but i people getting tuned in and making up but i people getting tuned in and making up up but i people getting tuned in and making up their minds question at three making up their minds question at three weeks to go so i suspect most people three weeks to go so i suspect most people witt three weeks to go so i suspect most people will still be tuning in. picking people will still be tuning in. picking up on that point from aubrey , sonia sodha. , sonia a picking up on that point from aubrey , sonia a lot of the impact is through those very short meme clips for example that labour has been putting on tiktok, getting traction. some of the conservatives videos have had a significant number of views. in a week when the manifestos are launched, how much difference does the detail, the fine print that we get this week, make, given that attention spans are perhaps shorter than they were? attention spans are perhaps shorter than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot what than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot what is than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot what is in - than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot what is in the - also depends a lot what is in the manifestos also depends a lot what is in the manifestos and also depends a lot what is in the manifestos and whether- also depends a lot what is in the manifestos and whether there i also depends a lot what is in the i manifestos and whether there are also depends a lot what is in the - manifestos and whether there are any surprises manifestos and whether there are any surprises i manifestos and whether there are any surprises idon t manifestos and whether there are any surprises. i don t think manifestos and whether there are any surprises. i don t think there - manifestos and whether there are any surprises. i don t think there are - surprises. i don t think there are going surprises. i don t think there are going to surprises. i don t think there are going to be surprises. i don t think there are going to be you surprises. i don t think there are going to be. you have surprises. idon t think there are going to be. you have both- surprises. i don t think there are . going to be. you have both parties trailing going to be. you have both parties trailing policies, going to be. you have both parties trailing policies, potential- trailing policies, potential policies trailing policies, potential policies that trailing policies, potential policies that we trailing policies, potential policies that we might - trailing policies, potential| policies that we might see trailing policies, potential. policies that we might see in trailing policies, potential- policies that we might see in the manifestos policies that we might see in the manifestos this policies that we might see in the manifestos this weekend. - policies that we might see in the manifestos this weekend. you i policies that we might see in the - manifestos this weekend. you know, it is quite manifestos this weekend. you know, it is quite unusual, manifestos this weekend. you know, it is quite unusual, i manifestos this weekend. you know, it is quite unusual, i think, manifestos this weekend. you know, it is quite unusual, i think, for- manifestos this weekend. you know, it is quite unusual, i think, for a - it is quite unusual, i think, for a manifesto it is quite unusual, i think, for a manifesto to it is quite unusual, i think, for a manifesto to really it is quite unusual, i think, for a manifesto to really make - it is quite unusual, i think, for a i manifesto to really make someone think. manifesto to really make someone think. oh. manifesto to really make someone think. oh. i manifesto to really make someone think, oh, i might manifesto to really make someone think, oh, i might vote manifesto to really make someone think, oh, i might vote for- manifesto to really make someone think, oh, i might vote for this - think, oh, i might vote forthis party think, oh, i might vote forthis party now think, oh, i might vote forthis party now. we think, oh, i might vote forthis party now. we saw think, oh, i might vote forthis party now. we saw in - think, oh, i might vote forthis party now. we saw in 2019 - think, oh, i might vote for this l party now. we saw in 2019 there think, oh, i might vote for this - party now. we saw in 2019 there was a very party now. we saw in 2019 there was a very packed party now. we saw in 2019 there was a very packed manifesto party now. we saw in 2019 there was a very packed manifesto for - party now. we saw in 2019 there was a very packed manifesto for labour, l a very packed manifesto for labour, promising a very packed manifesto for labour, promising lots a very packed manifesto for labour, promising lots of a very packed manifesto for labour, promising lots of things a very packed manifesto for labour, promising lots of things including i promising lots of things including free broadband promising lots of things including free broadband and promising lots of things including free broadband and the promising lots of things including free broadband and the voters i free broadband and the voters decided free broadband and the voters decided labour free broadband and the voters decided labour couldn t - free broadband and the voters decided labour couldn t deliver free broadband and the voters - decided labour couldn t deliver it. i decided labour couldn t deliver it. i suspect decided labour couldn t deliver it. i suspect the decided labour couldn t deliver it. i suspect the labour decided labour couldn t deliver it. i suspect the labour manifesto, . i suspect the labour manifesto, published i suspect the labour manifesto, published next i suspect the labour manifesto, published next week, i suspect the labour manifesto, published next week, there - i suspect the labour manifesto, published next week, there are| i suspect the labour manifesto, . published next week, there are not going published next week, there are not going to published next week, there are not going to be published next week, there are not going to be surprises published next week, there are not going to be surprises in published next week, there are not going to be surprises in it. - published next week, there are not going to be surprises in it. labour. going to be surprises in it. labour has been going to be surprises in it. labour has been very going to be surprises in it. 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trust the party when it wants the country to trust the party when it comes wants the country to trust the party when it comes to wants the country to trust the party when it comes to handling - wants the country to trust the party when it comes to handling the - when it comes to handling the economy when it comes to handling the economy and when it comes to handling the economy and every when it comes to handling the economy and every policy- when it comes to handling the economy and every policy will| when it comes to handling the . economy and every policy will be fully costed, economy and every policy will be fully costed, it economy and every policy will be fully costed, it says. economy and every policy will be fully costed, it says. there - economy and every policy will be fully costed, it says. there won t be any fully costed, it says. there won t be any big fully costed, it says. there won t be any big surprises fully costed, it says. there won t be any big surprises in fully 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because they want the electorate to look at the manifesto and because they want the electorate to look at the manifesto and say - look at the manifesto and say they re look at the manifesto and say they re are look at the manifesto and say they re are good look at the manifesto and say they re are good ideas - look at the manifesto and say they re are good ideas but - look at the manifesto and say. they re are good ideas but they look at the manifesto and say - they re are good ideas but they are incremental they re are good ideas but they are incremental and they re are good ideas but they are incremental and i they re are good ideas but they are incremental and i believe - they re are good ideas but they are incremental and i believe that - incremental and i believe that labour incremental and i believe that labour can incremental and i believe that labour can deliver incremental and i believe that labour can deliver them. - incremental and i believe that labour can deliver them. so. incremental and i believe that labour can deliver them. so i| incremental and i believe that - labour can deliver them. so i doubt the manifestos labour can deliver them. so i doubt the manifestos will labour can deliver them. so i doubt the manifestos will change - labour can deliver them. so i doubt the manifestos will change very - the manifestos will change very much the manifestos will change very much 0n the manifestos will change very much 0n the the manifestos will change very much. 0n the debates, - the manifestos will change very much. 0n the debates, i- the manifestos will change very much. 0n the debates, i think. the manifestos will change very - much. 0n the debates, i think they can affect much. 0n the debates, i think they can affect an much. 0n the debates, i think they can affect an election much. 0n the debates, i think they can affect an election campaign - much. 0n the debates, i think theyj can affect an election campaign but very few can affect an election campaign but very few people can affect an election campaign but very few people will can affect an election campaign but very few people will watch - can affect an election campaign but very few people will watch a - can affect an election campaign butj very few people will watch a debate and make very few people will watch a debate and make up very few people will watch a debate and make up their very few people will watch a debate and make up their minds based - very few people will watch a debate and make up their minds based oni very few people will watch a debate l and make up their minds based on an houror and make up their minds based on an houror90 and make up their minds based on an houror 90 minutes and make up their minds based on an houror 90 minutes of and make up their minds based on an hour or 90 minutes of tv. and make up their minds based on an hour or 90 minutes of tv. i and make up their minds based on an hour or 90 minutes of tv. ithink- hour or 90 minutes of tv. i think when hour or 90 minutes of tv. i think when they hour or 90 minutes of tv. i think when they do hour or 90 minutes of tv. i think when they do make hour or 90 minutes of tv. i think when they do make a hour or 90 minutes of tv. i think when they do make a difference i hour or 90 minutes of tv. i thinki when they do make a difference is when when they do make a difference is when there when they do make a difference is when there is when they do make a difference is when there is a when they do make a difference is when there is a big when they do make a difference is when there is a big news - when they do make a difference is when there is a big news story- when they do make a difference is when there is a big news story out of it and when there is a big news story out of it and i when there is a big news story out of it and i think when there is a big news story out of it and i think the when there is a big news story out of it and i think the one when there is a big news story out of it and i think the one thing - when there is a big news story out of it and i think the one thing that| of it and i think the one thing that people of it and i think the one thing that people will of it and i think the one thing that people will have of it and i think the one thing that people will have noticed - of it and i think the one thing that people will have noticed about. of it and i think the one thing thati people will have noticed about this last week people will have noticed about this last week of people will have noticed about this last week of debates people will have noticed about this last week of debates between - people will have noticed about this i last week of debates between leaders was the last week of debates between leaders was the row last week of debates between leaders was the row about last week of debates between leaders was the row about the last week of debates between leaders was the row about the £2000, - last week of debates between leaders was the row about the £2000, what l was the row about the £2000, what labour was the row about the £2000, what labour says was the row about the £2000, what labour says is was the row about the £2000, what labour says is a was the row about the £2000, what labour says is a lie was the row about the £2000, what labour says is a lie about was the row about the £2000, what labour says is a lie about their- labour says is a lie about their spending labour says is a lie about their spending plans~ labour says is a lie about their spending plans. that- labour says is a lie about their spending plans. that was - labour says is a lie about theirj spending plans. that was what dominated spending plans. that was what dominated the spending plans. that was what dominated the news spending plans. that was whati dominated the news headlines. spending plans. that was what . dominated the news headlines. i think dominated the news headlines. i think it dominated the news headlines. i think it may dominated the news headlines. i think it may make dominated the news headlines. i think it may make a dominated the news headlines. i think it may make a difference . think it may make a difference through think it may make a difference through a think it may make a difference through a vehicle think it may make a difference through a vehicle like - think it may make a difference through a vehicle like that. - think it may make a difference through a vehicle like that. aubrey, lookin: through a vehicle like that. aubrey, looking ahead through a vehicle like that. aubrey, looking ahead to through a vehicle like that. aubrey, looking ahead to the through a vehicle like that. aubrey, looking ahead to the manifestos . through a vehicle like that. aubrey, | looking ahead to the manifestos and the policies being set out, what do you think is going to be the issue that resonates most with voters, notwithstanding the points sonia made about perhaps the detail not reaching people. do you think cost of living, climate, immigration, what do you think are going to be the key point is that all parties. we have talked a lot about labour and the conservatives, but all parties, what do you think will be the standout one? the parties, what do you think will be the standout one? parties, what do you think will be the standout one? the cost of living and the economy the standout one? the cost of living and the economy still the standout one? the cost of living and the economy still polls - the standout one? the cost of living and the economy still polls highestl and the economy still polls highest as a due and the economy still polls highest as a due container voters. labour manifesto, as a due container voters. labour manifesto, public services at the heart manifesto, public services at the heart of manifesto, public services at the heart of the office, 40,000 more gp appointments every week, and trying to boost appointments every week, and trying to boost the number of teachers in schools. to boost the number of teachers in schools. as to boost the number of teachers in schools, as well. obviously the backdrop schools, as well. obviously the backdrop to all of this is that there backdrop to all of this is that there is backdrop to all of this is that there is quite a difficult economic context there is quite a difficult economic context. so whichever party goes into government afterjuly the 5th is going into government afterjuly the 5th is going to have quite limited room for manoeuvre to be able to do things for manoeuvre to be able to do things they want to. the conservatives have been talking a lot about conservatives have been talking a lot about tax cuts about their next agenda, lot about tax cuts about their next agenda, and while we saw the cuts to national agenda, and while we saw the cuts to national insurance in the november budget national insurance in the november budget last year and again in march this year. budget last year and again in march this year. it budget last year and again in march this year, it was not quite clear that this year, it was not quite clear that that this year, it was not quite clear that that was resonating with voters that that was resonating with voters. they certainly have concerns about voters. they certainly have concerns about the voters. they certainly have concerns about the cost of living and the economy about the cost of living and the economy but i think they are looking to political economy but i think they are looking to political parties to be quite serious to political parties to be quite serious and tell them the truth about serious and tell them the truth about the serious and tell them the truth about the extent of the difficulties they will about the extent of the difficulties they will face if they come into office. they will face if they come into office, and what they can and cannot fix. office, and what they can and cannot fix~ if office, and what they can and cannot fix~ if they office, and what they can and cannot fix. if they cannot fix it, how long it will fix. if they cannot fix it, how long it will take fix. if they cannot fix it, how long it will take to do that even if it is not it will take to do that even if it is not in it will take to do that even if it is not in a it will take to do that even if it is not in a single parliament. aubrey is not in a single parliament. aubrey allegretti, chief political correspondent at the times, and sonia sodha, a former labour adviser and observer columnist, thank you to you both. the pressure on public services is a key election issue and in an effort to understand the challenges they re under, we re going to be reporting on three key areas over the coming days education, courts and social care. this morning we re focusing on schools and their struggle to address a range of social issues beyond teaching. our social affairs correspondent michael buchanan has been to one primary school in telford where teachers are helping with potty training and basic communication.. which column do i start with? you add these for me. a simple maths lesson a familiar part of the school day for most pupils. fantastic. move onto the next one. but increasingly in classrooms are children who struggle to simply be in school. 50p! in early years, we have a number of children who struggle with basic communication, stringing a sentence together. please can i go to the toilet? , can i have a drink? they re sentences that we have to teach our children how to say. london academy is a small primary school in a relatively deprived area of telford. almost half the pupils are on free school meals. the lack of communication skills means the school has to teach makaton a basic form of sign language. but that s not all. we have intimate care plans for a number of our children. we change the children. we also try and teach them how to go to the toilet, as well so we try to do some of that potty training but we do have children still in nappies in our early years environment. eight were in nappies. louise says her last september, of the 27 children who joined london academy s reception class, eight were in nappies. louise says her son wasn t potty trained when he started school. he was quite late in everything, really! he wasn t ready, so. and then we felt when he was ready, then school helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet trained before he came to school? i had, yeah, and he there wasjust no interest at all from him to try that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school, but a chat with them reveals why schools increasingly struggle to focus solely on educating children. my oldest daughter, i ve just i ve pulled her out of school. i home educate my eldest one now. how old is she? 14. cos she was self harming, bullying, due to her mental health. right. but now she s at home, she does her work. she s happy, she s eating, she s sleeping. it s great. my wife has borderline personality disorder. all right, ok. so there s a lot of stress and emotional mental health. so that was affecting the children, their upbringing, the things that were going on. so we ve had help from the social services, help my wife get back to where she wants to be, but also guide the children into a better life. and that was through the school? through the school, yeah. london academy is part of a 13 school multi academy trust. its head says long standing challenges caused by tight budgets have been exacerbated by covid and cost of living pressures. coming out of the pandemic, children are quite often more anxious about large social situations because people were out of that for a while and at quite formative stages in their education and in their own personal development. i think, ultimately, when children are coming to school more hungry, that s probably having a bigger impact as an ongoing thing. i think we would have recovered quicker if it hadn t been for those issues. so this is our food hub. to help its families, the learning community trust has a food bank run by nikki morrison. i went out to do a visit myself. the children in the house were having weetabix with tap water. she leads the trust welfare team, who spend a lot of their time providing emotional and psychological support to hundreds of pupils. but nikki wonders what ll happen to them once they re older. a lot of support is in place for children through the school system, but when they leave school, that support starts to peter off. somebody s going to have to pick up that group of children when they leave school, and then try to put the support in then to enable them to be productive and functional members of society. the challenges in telford are, of course, nationwide how to help the many children who can t cope with school cope with life. michael buchanan, bbc news, telford. it is coming up to 833. sunday with laura kuenssberg is on bbc one at 9:00 this morning. let s find out what she has in store. the pace of the race for number 10 is getting quicker and quicker and quicker. after a terrible few days for the tories, we ll be asking this morning how they can turn things around or if they can. the man who s making so many conservatives nervous is nigel farage the leader of reform uk. he lljoin us live along with labour, conservative and snp politicians, and a fantastic panel to boot. so join me over on bbc one at 9:00. see you then. as the uk election campaign continue we want your help in how we cover it. the bbc has launched your voice, your vote so you can tell us the issues that matter to you. our reporter amanda parr has been to kingswood to speak to first time voters and hear their thoughts on the election.. thanks for having us. first time voters. so have you registered. you registered yet? not yet. but you know your deadline. yeah. yeah, ok, good. i have. you have? brownie points to you. so you wanted to talk to me today about mental health. why is this a burning issue for you all this election? so it s such a relevant topic to everyone it affects everyone and it really impacts young people in their school life, in life in general. so it s really important that it s, like, more covered. i feel like the lack of support, or i feel like as life goes and, like, families, and obviously there s, like, a lot of negative things happen in people s lives. a lot of it kind of builds up to, like, what happens in the future and it really impacts the social life whether they re doing, like, more knife crime orjust out more on the street. so there s not really enough support from the government and just education itself. lack of nhs funding with, like, mental health support. there s so many, like, really long waiting lists for mental health support, counselling, therapy. it s. it s got to change, you know? we want it. we really want it to change. i would sometimes link it to crime. and, you know, seeing as crime has become a really big issue in the recent years, i think there s a lot we could do to prevent it, rather than stop it - preventing it better than the cure. so i think that s something . we could focus on, especially putting counsellors in schools - and helping them identify students that could be vulnerable to, - you know, mental health conditions and even criminal environments. so what do you want to see from the politicians? what do you want to hear in terms of policies things that will make you vote for them? increase funding in schools to allow younger people to be able to find . other ways out instead of being, you know, picked up by gangs and violence. and really, like, say what they re going to change instead ofjust kind of.like, saying in a such a general way. i think being specific with it will really help people understand what they are voting for. you re obviously very switched on, and you re giving this election a lot of head space. how important do you think it is that young people do as you are doing? really important, i think. because, i mean, it s the future of our country and our lives. i mean, what s more important than that, right? and i think if we make our voices heard, we could make so much positive change to so many people. young people don t get, you know, the attention| of many of the policies in their manifestos. i and that means, you know, - we lose out in the end if we re not voting and we re not- making our voices heard. well, guys, it s great to meet you today. good to talk. and thank you for adding your voices to the debate. no problem. thank you. that report from amanda parr. you can find a full list of the candidates standing in the kingswood constituency on the bbc news website. and if you have a question for a politician or perhaps an issue that you re concerned about.(tx you can get in touch as part of your voice, your vote by scannig this qr code or go to bbc.co.uk/news on your phone, tablet or laptop. time now for us to get the sport and hewittjoins us. focusing on cricket. england against pakistan later and they only play each other in these global tournaments because of all of the issues that everyone watching will understand. thea;r of all of the issues that everyone watching will understand. they are -la in: in watching will understand. they are playing in new watching will understand. they are playing in new york. watching will understand. they are playing in new york. they ll- watching will understand. they are playing in new york. they ll be - playing in new york. they ll be 30,000 plus people watching there. scotland play in a manner later on and that is important to england who lost their big rivalry match last night to australia. it means that they are in some peril as they want to defend this trophy successfully because they might not even make the next stage because currently the start that england has had of two matches and no wins has put their chances of making that suit a stage in doubt. put into bat in barbados. david warner and travis head made a flying start 70 without loss in the 5th over australia reaching 201 for 7 from their 20 overs. in reply, england started strongly, captainjos buttler top scoring with 42 but they lost wickets at regular intervals and they ultimately fell well short of their target, losing by 36 runs. the situation we find ourselves in is the situation we find ourselves in. we ve got to be confident, keep our heads up, and look forward to the next one, and keep puffing our chest out and play some really good cricket which we know we re capable of. south africa remain top of their group after surviving a scare against the netherlands. chasing 104 to win, they were 12 for 4 at one stage. but they managed the run chase well an unbeaten 59 off 51 balls from david miller saw south africa win by four wickets. while overnight uganda were bowled out forjust 39 in their defeat to west indies. northampton s 10 year wait for a league title is over after the saints won a dramatic premiership final at twickenham. alex mitchell scored the winning try against bath. who were down to 14 men. with just seven minutes left as northampton claimed their second championship. and a perfect send off for the departing courtenay lawes after 17 years with the club. it s not really sunk in yet, i think, because we ve been so focused on this for so long. and then during the game i thought, let s just get the win whatever, however you can, kind of thing. and then you get there and you re like, oh. have we done it? do you know i mean? but, no, its class. can t really put it into words. and i think we deserved it i think over the season we ve been the best team, and sometimes you got to find a way to win. social media tells us that those goggles were there because of all of the champagne that was spraying in the champagne that was spraying in the dressing room post match. traditionally rugby league s big day of the year. the challenge cup final was a fitting occasion to pay tribute to rob burrow. and as the sport said goodbye to one of its legends. on the pitch wigan warriors beat warrington wolves at wembley to win the trophy for a 2ist time. after two first half tries captain liam farrell took wigan out of reach as he touched down to help seal an 18 8 win. matt peet s side now hold all four major honors in the league leaders shield, the super league title, the world club challenge. while they rejoint top of the current league table too. pretty surreal. we haven t really spoken about it, truthfully, until the beginning of this week. to hold all four trophies i think there s only a couple of other teams ever done it, so a very big achievement for ourselves. and, yeah, we re in a great place at the moment. look, the year s not over we ve got. there s a lot of rugby left in us, so. don t get me wrong, we ll celebrate this rightly, next couple of days, but then it ll be back to business after that. st helens made it four straight women s challenge cup final victories as they comfortably beat leeds rhinos. rob burrow s old side were looking for inspiration on the wembley stage but came up short. saints running in four tries without reply to lift the trophy once again as they beat the rhinos for the third final running i think the only thing better than doing it the first time is going to be doing it the second time. like that. that is an amazing leeds side to stop them from scoring with the pressure they had early on honestly, i couldn t be prouder. we said. we spoke about, we were doing it for each other. every time you couldn t think of taking on the ball and you re doing it for the person next to you. there s people out there that didn t win it last year, and they ve done it now and they re going to be champions. after a disappointing start to the french open for british singles players the tournament ended on a high with alfie hewett and gordon reid winning the men s wheelchair doubles title for a fifth successive year. another serial winner is iga swiatek. atjust 23 years of age she s a french open singles winner for the fourth time. the pole continued her recent dominance on the roland garros clay with a straight sets win against first time major finalist jasmine paolini of italy. it was swiatek s third title in a row in paris and a fifth grand slam triumph overall. it s the turn of the men this afternoon with carlos alcaraz taking on germany s alexander zverev. it s the first time either man has reached the final in paris. zverev is searching for his first grand slam title. whilst alcaraz is going for his third and hoping tojoin an illustrious list of spaniards to have won the title at roland garros. and i wanted you to put my name on that list of the spanish players who won this tournament. not only rafa but ferrero, moya, costa a lot of the spanish players that are legends from our sport won this tournament. and i really want you to put my name on that list, as well. i think in a grand semi final, there s obviously no easy matches and no easy opponents. and if you re. if you re in the final of roland garros, you deserve to be there. and that goes for him, as well he played a fantastic match today. you know, played a fantastic tournament in general, i think, and i m expecting a very difficult match. it s the final few days of pre euros friendies. and spain appear to be in good form. although it was northern ireland that bore the brunt of it. not immediately though. sunderland defender daniel ballard gave northern ireland a shock lead just 67 seconds after kick off in majorca. but things soon turned. as they conceded four goals in the first half and eventually lost 5 1. northern ireland should have an easier game against andorra on tuesday. spain face a far sterner test in their opening match of the euros against croatia on saturday. great britain have won their first medals at the european athletics championships in rome. with romell glave taking bronze in the 100 metres. (tx the race was won by olympic champion marceljacobs in a time of 10.02 seconds as he successfully defended his european sprint title on a golden night for hosts italy in rome. who won three medals. it s glaves first championship medal. george mills won silver in the men s 5000 meters, finishing behind norwegian star jakob ingebrigtsen. mills is the son of former england internationalfootballer danny mills and he s now got his sights set on the paris olympics next month. so i want to run the 15 and the five in paris, and hopefully tonight is my chances of selection. no harm. but, yeah, we ll see there s still a month out or three weeks out till trials, so straight back to training as of probably tonight and tomorrow, and then we get stuck in. primoz roglic looks like he s coming into form just in time for the tour de france. the slovenian. who s recovering from a serious crash during a race two months ago. won the hardest stage of the criterium du dauphine. it was his second stage win in two days. and he leads byjust over a minute going into today s final stage. dutch cyclist lorena viebers claimed victory on stage three of the women s tour of britain which started and finished in warrington. her team mate world champion lotte kopecky retained her 17 second lead over britain s anna henderson. and it looks like the mercedes formula one team could be challenging for race wins again after george russell claimed pole for this evening s canadian grand prix. the briton recorded a time of one minute and 12 seconds exactly on his first run in the final session of qualifying in montreal. championship leader max verstappen posted exactly the same time in his red bull. but because russell did it first he gets to start from the top spot forjust the second time in his career. it feels amazing, i mean, so much hard work back at the factory. so much hard work over all of these years, i ve sort of been zigzagging around and changing the philosophy and concept and over the last 26 months those zigzags have got a bit smaller and narrower. the upgrades we brought last week in monaco and a few more bits on the car this week, really have transformed the car and it is feeling great. and, so good to claim this poll. that race plus indeed the men s final is part of your radio listening for the day. thank you very much listening for the day. thank you very much for listening for the day. thank you very much for that, listening for the day. thank you very much for that, hugh. - listening for the day. thank you very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they were very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they were once very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they were once a very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they were once a common l 846 and they were once a common sight in our countryside and gardens but now the willow to it is said to be at the risk of extinction after numbers declined by as much as 90% over the last five decades. in response, a team of conservationists and volunteers across the north of england have hatched a plan to rescue the reclusive species, as our correspondent judy hobson explains. these tiny birds were once regular visitors to our gardens. but not any more. in greater manchester alone, there are nowjust120 breeding pairs after suffering a huge decline over the past five decades. so we ve got a lot of wetness here, water on this side and water on that side. damp, wet woodland is really what willow tits really like. now conservation volunteers in the north west are being asked to help rescue them. the project is called wet willow wildlife. so we re going to engage volunteers in surveying the willow tit populations across the north west. and once we ve understood that population, we re going to use that information to design habitat interventions. astley moss has been identified as an area which could be restored to help the willow tit population. we need rotten deadwood like this in a woodland for willow tits to excavate, whereas, for example, this living tree here is pretty hard. so a willow tit wouldn t be able to excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive and hard to spot. we didn t see any here today but they do have a distinctive call. willow tit beeps. willow tits are often in places really close to people s houses like in bolton and in trafford. you ve got willow tits right in these scruffy pockets of woodland right behind people s houses and people just. they re an elusive bird so people don t know that they re there. this is a lowland rain bog site. but on the edges of it, we ve got this kind of woodland habitat. volunteers are working with the wildlife trust with funding from the government species survival fund. they ll work with landowners to increase the willow tits habitat, benefiting a host of other creatures into the bargain. it s quite often a habitat that s overlooked by people or undervalued. it s a bit scruffy looking, it s untidy, it s a bit wet and boggy, and it s a bit unloved. there are a number of factors for the willow tit to climb. quite possibly climate change is playing a part. some of the wetter habitats potentially might be drying up in the longer, hotter summers. it s a bird that doesn t move that far and we need to create these pockets of habitats, sort of stepping stones in a way across the landscape so that willow tits can move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife project aims to boost the willow tit s chance of survival and halt the alarming decline in this once common bird. what we want to do is to make sure there s always a home for the willow tit in the west. it s a really iconic species and it really needs our help. judy hobson, bbc news. we did see some warm layers of clothing there because even though it is june we clothing there because even though it isjune we have not been able to put the jackets away just yet because it does not feel like summer! when do those bird watchers get some slightly night said temperatures matt! i ve been looking at the chart and there is not quite decided yet on the horizon. we will get there. things will get a little cooler over the next few days, can you believe it? just put it into context, the temperatures at this stage injune should be somewhere between 16 and 20 degrees but as we go through into the start of next week, they are going to be about four or 5 degrees below what we expect this time of year. when you have got the absence of any sunshine, so important for adding strength and warmth into the atmosphere, it will feel even chillier than that. we ve got it all to blame with its area of low pressure, as it slowly meanders across the north atlantic and into scandinavia. as a more northerly wind develops. a weather system today which is going to take away some of the morning sunshine some of you have already been enjoying. the best of the sunshine across the central and southern areas but even here it will cloud over. north and central belt of scotland some sunny spells and a scattering of showers but that cloudier zone are particularly across the north of england, north midlands, north wales, patchy drizzle, south west scotland to bet northern ireland the patchy drizzle replaced by the end of the afternoon. temperatures similar to yesterday but when the sun is gone it will feel cool. rain this evening in northern ireland but tonight some wetter weather spread eastwards across england and wales were some heavy bursts at times especially across north england and north midlands. and especially towards east anglia. it will clear up towards east anglia. it will clear up later on and will be a chilly night and temperatures in rural areas will get down to two or three degrees. northerly winds developing bitter cold and wet star developing to that week. rain lasting longer in east anglia but away from that, sunshine during the morning, some clouds building into the afternoon and some areas will stay dry. but it will feel chilly in that northerly breeze. whatever your plans for the weekend, enjoy! thanks very much, matt, see you. it s been incredible to see the outpouring of emotions and tributes for rugby league legend rob burrow who died of mnd at the age of 41 last week. it is hard to believe he is gone and if you have not seen it already do watch the documentary on iplayer at the moment. inspired by rob, a doctor diagnosed with motor neurone disease himself is taking on an epic challenge to raise money and awareness of the condition. our reporter katharine da costa met up with luke hames brown during his training. initially, my symptoms started in my legs. it s progressed to my arms, my hands, my shoulders. luke hames brown s already seeing the slow decline in his muscles, making it difficult to walk. he was only diagnosed with motor neurone disease in april last year. it s a fairly rare condition it s not something you see a lot of in general practice.but certainly very aware of what that diagnosis meant. pretty devastating to hear that. certainly took some time to process that news, and what it meant for us and ourfamilies. having been an active snowboarder, surfer and walker, luke s used to challenging himself. but at 35, he s decided to leave his career as a gp to spend the time he has left with his wife and family. some of those numbers are very scary in people dying within two, three years of the diagnosis. the thing that we can try and do is pack in as much as we can in the next couple of years and hoping that it is slow and it continues to be slow and we have years rather than months. thank you. the couple is preparing to walk the length of hadrian s wall covering around ten miles a day over eight days. this isn t about having to do it in the fastest possible time, it s about showing that i can still do these things i enjoy, and about hopefully helping other people to realise that, with adaptations, you can keep doing them. i can tell it will be really hard for him mentally and physically. so, as a team, i know that we ll get through it together probably with lots of sweets and chocolate and tea breaks. they re raising money for the charity my name s doddie foundation, set up by the former scottish and british rugby legend doddie weir, who died from mnd in 2022. they re also donating funds to the mnd association of which rob burrow was the patron. the rugby league star and his wife lindsey had agreed to meet with luke to offer support and advice before rob passed away. the way that he approached his diagnosis, and in being so open and candid about it in the public eye. ..has raised enormous awareness, which is so needed. and on a personal level, was inspirational to me. luke and kate will celebrate their second wedding anniversary while they re away making memories and raising money for research into a cure along the way. katherine da costa, bbc news, in oxford. we wish him well with that challenge. a young lego fan has designed a spaceship which lit up the new york city skyline. ten year old lotty was one of six winners across the world who won a competition to design a spacecraft which was recreated by drones. corinne wheatley has more. mysterious lights over the new york skyline. not from outer space but definitely inspired by it. in fact, one of these designs came from somewhere much closer to home a dining room table in kippax, west yorkshire. we had to break them ones to rebuild, but with what you ve got on the table. you had to make a lego creation i would want to go to space in. you had to, in turn, tell it why you d want to go in your creation. my design was a bed with butterfly wings, and fire coming out of the back, and then a snack drawer underneath it. both: five, four, three, two, one. lego mad lottie won a trip to see her design lit up by drones helping her dreams of space travel come alive. there s loads of planets that no one s been to, and i would want to go discover some of the planets and see if there s life in any of them. not a lot of, like, girls have gone to space or been anywhere on the moon. and then it s always boys who go. er. you re doing it for the girls, aren t you? yeah. so how to build, then you can rebuild. when she s drawn on the piece of paper and it s gone from the paper to a real life thing flown in the sky it was just amazing. like you say, there was no words, you had to just stand in awe and look at it. she strives to do whatever she wants. but, yeah, it s just nice to see that she does want to go and push, don t you? follow your dreams. definitely. around 20,000 bikers have completed a mammoth ride from london to cumbria in memory of the tv chef dave myers, who died of cancer in february. the procession made its way to dave s home town of barrow after setting off from a famous biker hang out, the ace cafe in north west london. our correspondent sharon barbour joined them on the journey. cheering. it s a big night in barrow a celebration of the life of dave myers. tens of thousands have arrived many of them hairy bikers. they re riding all the way up the m6. there was thousands of people on every bridge. it s unbelievable. as we were coming in through the towns and villages leading into barrow, just streets were lined and it was just amazing. the roar of tens of thousands of motorbikes heard across england today began to arrive late afternoon. the procession at times was 16 miles long, and the route was lined by supporters. leading the cavalcade that left london this morning was dave s best friend and fellow hairy biker remarkable reception! just mind blowing. all of the all the over bridges, all the way from london to barrow in furness people waving and showing kindness and courtesy and oh! unbelievable! the tv chef died in february, after he was diagnosed with cancer. he was 66. sharon barbour, bbc news, cumbria. are perfect tribute. that s all from us this morning, but breakfast will be back tomorrow from six. enjoy the rest of your day. goodbye! who is on their way to number ten? the prime minister s had a dreadfulfew days after his d day blunder. but the tories are still trying to torture labour with their disputed claims about tax. the power of the smaller parties has been centre stage. more antics on the trail, and full on farage making conservatives nervous. in the latest of our leader interviews, he joins us from essex. stephen flynn, the leader of the snp in westminster, joins us from aberdeen. and with all of us in the studio, mel stride, close ally of rishi sunak, the work and pensions secretary. and shabana mahmood, who d be thejustice secretary if labour moves into number ten. welcome to you both, a rough week for you guys. welcome to you both, a rough week for you guys- for you guys. we ve got time, there are four weeks for you guys. we ve got time, there are four weeks to for you guys. we ve got time, there are four weeks to go for you guys. we ve got time, there are 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if david chase hadn t happened to be clicking around, he wouldn t see me in dr. rascals and i want to get that guy on my new tv show the sopranos. there s a lot of detail in my book and i think bill, bill was, the conversations we had, i haven t seen the film myself at ceramic just to see what happens. you haven t seen it ? that is all the time we have this weekend. we will see you tomorrow at 6:00 a.m. eastern for more morning joe. until then, enjoy the rest of your sunday. your sunday. good morning. it s sunday, june 9. i m alicia menendez. with michael steele and symone sanders townsend. we are following president biden on his final day in france and the appearance of his message of american leadership for folks abroad and at home. donald trump and his allies will payback was guilty verdict. however deranged that may sound . how congressional republicans want to use their power to punish. what could happen this week as trump pushes to be unleashed from his gag order. grab your coffee and settle in. welcome to the weekend. president biden is wrapping up his consequential visit to europe this morning in the next hour, he is expected to visit american military cemetery near paris. this caps a week of ceremonies commemorating the 80th anniversary of the allied invasion of normandy. the president used the stage to call for citizens to demand of accuracy cash against authoritarianism worldwide. we stand at an inflection point in history. the decisions we make now will determine the course of our future for decades to come. we have a lot of opportunity and a lot of responsibility. it gives me hope to know the france and the united states stand together now and always. me we continue to see democracy, may we in both languages, no we stand together. joining us is professor of history and author of strongmen , miscellany to the present, ruth ben-ghiat. presidential historian professor of history douglas brinkley. good morning. ruth, i want to start with you. i thought this week was incredibly important. a definition all week if you will. both on the global stage and here at home for president biden. he really connected a number of dots about the urgency and the washington post wrote a piece which i thought he talked will americans recognize their country in the dark and desperate portrait trump painted? or is the country s falling to pieces, he said. if he is not return to power, the countries finish. you want to be country anymore. or will americans instead choose to see a nation still striving to fulfill the higher purpose than biden described in memory of those who fought here, died here, literally save the world here, let us be worthy of their sacrifice. that, to me, was a consummating moment. i would love to get your take on how the president has framed his visit around this idea of, there is a bigger fight out there. those who come before have engaged in it and now it s up to us to engage as well on behalf of democracy. i think it s been extremely effective to frame this not only because the reason he is there is commemorating an important victory over fascism in world war ii, but it reminds us of the toll that bad leadership can have. not just on one s own country but on the world. when you have district to vengeful leaders with large armies, as you did with mussolini, hitler, and today with putin, he see the world is not safer. trump is trying to his tell us that the world may be safer because he is allied with people like putin but that s not the case and history is clear on that. i want to agree with michael that this week was in his word definition. when we were listening to president biden brought that he was expressing the urgency of this moment that we find ourselves in but with an i toward history. they were flourishes where he would say, how will we be remembered? how will this moment be remembered in 10, 20, 30 years. do you agree that this week was definitional and when scholars of history look back , how will this be remembered? on the short-term, it was a big win for joe biden. he went dess the famous spot where ronald reagan gave one of his famous speeches, and pulled up a very important speech, warning us about the need for democracy and the need to fight for freedom. reminding us that authoritarianism is on the loose yet again. really going after, going after people that are xena phobic, right-wing populist movement blooming in europe right now. i did come across as representing america as a statesman and promoting nato and protecting the ukraine and trying to create a stronger bulwark against putin s russia who is on a terror right now. to follow up on that point. i believe it was cass mood who wrote populism is a thick ideology mixed with faith and ideology. this right-wing populism on the rise in europe, populism doesn t have to be bad, but like bernie sanders is an economic populist. this idea that this dirty populism is the thing that s taking hold of places not just across europe but a sentiment like that at home. how does that dovetail with what we know to be true about our history? you see the republican party of today going back to the 1930s and embracing an isolationist plank. they are the henry ford s and charles lindbergh s of today. this is a fringe movement but isolationism over the decades has had its adherence. what is worrying about it is this friendship that trump has maintained with putin. he acts like he is putin s puppet is hillary clinton famously put it. he asked that way and with any authoritarian leader, if you chisel away at what donald trump is arguing, he sees a world of five big powers with five important authoritarian/in his case, democratic leader. we don t do business that way in the united states. trump is standing out as a loan silo because all the other presidents, ronald reagan was in the news because the spot biden chose to give his commemorative speech. reagan s is part of the other presidents club. ronald reagan but want to make sure we defended ukraine. that speech reagan gave in 1984 was about liberating eastern europe, getting the berlin wall to come down and breaking up the soviet union. american democracy on offensive posture and trump s an agent of fear. he is fear mongering the way he away long dated her father conklin. joe mccarthy famously. what is different is we had those tenets before of fear mongering but they never went all the way to somebody being able to take over the party of abraham blinken and also, with the specter of january 6 has happened in this millions of americans seem to shrug off january 6 is not a big deal, to me it s frightening. it tells you how deeply rooted social media has made right- wing extremism a disease across our land right now. give then everything we know and certainly that we have learned from history and historians like douglas, how did we get here? how do people move themselves into this space? the reason i ask, i am going to play the new ad from the biden campaign which lays out some of the more infamous quotes of donald trump and military service for example. he handed me his purple heart. i always wanted to get the purple heart. this was much easier. does donald trump even understand why someone is given a purple heart? why you receive the purple heart in the first place? here we are in this moment where people are looking past the man s attack on the military. his attack on institutions. his attack on the constitution. what to use senses going on that s animating this and allowing it to continue the way it has? i am glad the biden campaign made that at. it s very moving because it speaks to dess it gets to the heart of the fact that authoritarians are nihilist. they have no ideals beyond money and power. anybody who would do something like serve their country knowing they may be injured or killed, that makes them losers and dupes which are the suckers which are the words donald trump uses about our own people who serve. he mocks people who serve such as nikki haley s husband. in keeping with authoritarians throughout history because they despise the people think, quote, govern. they only want to dominate them, exploit them. this is why i go back to character and leadership and having somebody like donald trump lead our country, we deserve better. it s an incredible moment, douglas, to be living in, and i think about president biden on the world stage yesterday we were on air and prepared to talk about his trip to europe. in the interim, there was the hostage rescue out of gaza. i want you to listen to what the president had to say. i want to echo president macron s comments welcoming the hostages return to their families in israel. we won t stop working until all hostages come home and a cease- fire is reached. that is essential to happen. so often when i see these moments in the world s stage i m reminded of the argument that president biden made when he was running for president four years ago which is, we need someone from day one is ready to hit the ground running who understands challenges at home and challenges abroad. he really foreshadowed the years that would come in terms of the marriott crises they have developed in real time. when i was watching president biden these last few days, i m reminded of his greatness. often, we dismiss something that he says he seems to be an opportunity. there is this steady evenness, even low-key on this which may not make him kinetic on the campaign trail but it makes you feel saying that he is a states person. that he understands protocol. that he understands how important the u.s./french relationship is. he can talk about lafayette with president mccrone and understand the hours story the american revolution of two today with france. he has been there. he has done that. he has seen a lot. he was visibly moved at normandy when he went to the forest of crosses and stars of david and walked across. you can feel how emotional this was. biden had been born in world war ii, 1941, probably our last president that would be a world war ii president. he reminded us of the power of nato. this has been the essential alliance since 1945, 48 with harry truman, all the way up to now and there s only been one anti-nato president and that s donald trump. nato, the atlantic alliance is seminal for keeping our military , economic policies, and democracy, and culture even alive and well. i ve been deeply disturbed the weight trump pushed aside nato might as well just blow away the european union. it s refreshing to watch biden and know he has that long institutional memory and understands what containment of soviet expansion means back in the days. especially given everything that s going on. i will ask you to stick with us because we need to talk about the rest of the far right. it s not just in america. new details about the role american intelligence played in the israeli mission that rescued four hostages. rescued . auntie, you can t put that right in the dishwasher. watch me. with cascade platinum plus i have upped my dish game. i just scrape. load. and i m done. in that dishwasher? 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help people understand the importance of not leaning into this and this does not end well for anybody. we are lucky that southern poverty law center in alabama is continuing to monitor these hate crimes. that bit of luck turns to horror when we start watching the spikes in anti- semitism, spikes and anti- mexican rhetoric, and type black, anti-lgbtq+. the right wants to destroy the fabric of a multicultural america. as we are speaking in san diego, catholic charities, i am a check let a catholic. one of my favorite people is pope francis by catholic charity workers are being attacked and disrupted by handing out food and water to children that have come over the border in southern california. we are looking at authoritarian coming our way. when have we seen this before? we haven t. black america has. black america has had lynchings. we have things like the springfield race riot of 1908 or the race riot of 1921. we have had the institutionalization of jim crow and saw what did in decimating black americans. we have seen what this can do to indigenous people where their rights are stripped away and they are seen as something other. there is a real white supremacy movement alive across the land led by donald trump. at their core, the were fearful of this browning of america and this is seen as the last big stan to reclaim america as a white predominately white country. that anti-immigrant, anti- person of color rhetoric that is coming out of this right is ghastly. it represents the ugly part of our country. trump used to praise fdr for one thing, all the great things franklin d roosevelt, but the one trump talks about, was in a gray 20 put japanese in internment camps in world war ii? he would praise eisenhower, ike did many good things, two terms, but trump praises operation with back, bringing workers, agricultural workers and shipping them out of the united states back to mexico. this is the kind of movement we are dealing with. it is frightening. we have not seen something like this coalesce since the confederate movement before the civil war. it had spirits, mccarthyism was a big deal but fellow republican dwight eisenhower along with the u.s. army were able to chop mccarthy off at the knees. there is nobody out there to stop or slow donald trump down and it s going to be up to joe biden and kamala harris to talk about optimism and the economy and talk about better days are here to come. talk about the virtues of democracy and don t result of fear mongering that trump is doing to mobilize his base and beyond. ruth, we will give you the last word, but i m thinking the fact that the european parliament elections are enfolding this week, and we talked the radical right is on the rise in the juxtaposition between was happening at home and across europe and political wrote this week that the radical right arrival in the european stage will have a lasting impact. allegiance sees allegiances formed in early adulthood tend to last lifetimes unlike in the u.s. were support for trump is concentrated among the elderly. the insurgents have captured the youth vote in europe, likely lacking and support for decades. nowhere is it more clear that in the national rally party as it relates to what s happening in france. a 28-year-old later. what say you about this rise of the radical right, this dirty populism amongst young people? it s a big problem. far right authoritarians have been very savvy about using tribalism and using emotion. symone, i want to and on an optimistic note because it s too easy wherever we are living to think there is this wave and it will submerge us and it is hopeless. we should not resist. in poland, they successfully voted out, they immobilized the biggest rally and voter turnout since 1989 and they got rid of their far right government. in hungary, there s huge protests, the gop ideal right now, and we saw in india voters dealt him a defeat. it does not have to go this way. it doesn t have to be this way. ruth ben-ghiat and douglas brinkley, thank you. we will go to tel aviv as we learn more about the fallout from an israeli military mission in gaza that rescue four hostages. stick with his. you are watching the weekend. 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reporter: even as israel is celebrating the success of yesterday s hostage rescue, they are bracing for a significant political development in a couple of hours time. 1:00 p.m. eastern we are expecting benny gantz, the centrist opposition leader who joins benjamin netanyahu s wartime government to hold a press conference and we believe he will announce that he is resigning from netanyahu s government. let s be clear, assuming that s what happens, what that does and does not mean. it does not mean the fall of netanyahu s government but it would mean that the far right inside of that government, the same far right that is deeply opposed to the cease-fire plan laid out by prime minister by president biden rather last week would be empowered. you would not have that centrist more moderate element inside of the government to counterbalance the power of the far right. that is potentially a significant move. we were expecting benny gantz to hold this press conference yesterday, but he delayed it in light of the hostage rescue. going back to the four hostages. all are in good condition according to the israeli military. they spent their first night being treated at a hospital here in the greater tel aviv area. we had a chance yesterday to catch up with some of the friends of noa argamani, the young woman who was kidnapped on october 7 from the music festival, taken on a motorcycle into gaza. the friends of hers who we have been speaking to for eight months have just seen her for the first time. take a listen. how are you feeling? 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( ) [thud] president biden, i think, has been serious about courting independence, even right- leaning independents and anti- trump republicans. the campaign hired a national republican engagement director who before this role was cheapest after former republican congressman adam kinzinger. this comes as outside groups are boosting outreach to these voters, republican voters against trump launched a six- figure billboard campaign and four swing states featuring republicans who refused to cast a ballot for the ex-president. joining us is senior spokesperson for the biden/harris campaign kevin munoz. it s good to see you. it s interesting and politically exciting to see the biden campaign engage the way it is starting to push up against a lot of the narratives . we were talking earlier about the biden ads that are taking trump s words and putting them out there and saying he said this. it did not make it up. you have this pivot politically on the ground where you are bringing on republicans who can help and weatherford out of the adam kinzinger for environment. how do you think the shapes of narratively for the biden campaign. what are you saying to republicans, i know many of them, waiting for that invitation to the conversation. they want to see it come correct. they want it to come in a way that s meaningful, to reaffirm the coalition, if you will, that biden needs to win. let s look at the opportunity. 4.5 million republican primary voters have voted against donald trump this year. these are voters that didn t have to vote in a primary. donald trump is clearly the front runner, but they want to show they had not gotten donald trump does not have their support and they want somebody that stands for the rule of law, stands for democracy, stands for fighting for america on the global stage. these are voters that need to hear from the campaign and we need to earn their votes. we been running these ads and targeting these voters in battleground states amber brought on austin, he has two decades of history. we got to focus on building a bunch of trust to republicans willing to speak up and talk to fellow republicans and say you can support president biden. we think we have a good message not just because we are not donald trump but because joe biden has a proven history of getting things done, working across the aisle. look at the bipartisan plan that trump killed. we will talk about those issues. let s talk about the border you have progressives angry over the present eye latest executive action on asylum specific. listen to what this representative had to say yesterday. republicans have covered up for every failure there s by pointing to some vulnerable group of people. i think they ve been setting up this trap that unfortunately president biden has been pushed into with this executive order. do you agree with that that the president has been pushed into a trap by republicans. help me understand the political calculus. what you lose in the we have energy and support from progressives. where are you gaining it back? let s take a step back. on day one of this administration, joe biden brought forth a comprehensive immigration plan republicans have failed. they used the border as a talking point and refuse to work with those. even despite that, joe biden was able to negotiate a bipartisan border plan that would ve provided long-overdue resources to help secure the border, provide more resources for immigration courts, help expedite green cards for a lot of people that need more pathways to citizenship and what happened? donald trump killed it not once but twice. we are in this position where we were forced to take executive action that helps address what we can and cannot do with very limited resources and we have to be honest about that. that does not mean the fight for comprehensive immigration reform is over. you heard biden talk about it earlier that the fight is far from over but we have to be honest. the american people demand action when it comes to a broken immigration system. overwhelming americans support the action and comprehensive immigration reform and we have to remind voters that we have to work for the. i want to as quickly as a follow-up. a lot of reporting about the possibility of the administration considering ways in which they could address challenges in immigration on the interior including parole in place of american citizens. is this something we could see as soon as this coming week? i can t get ahead of policy announcement but you heard the president earlier, the fight for comprehensive immigration reform, dressier pathways to citizenship, especially for people who have been here a long time is critical. the american people do not like chaos. they don t want chaos at the border or in their communities. we have to continue that fight and we have to remind the american people of what donald trump is running. he wants to round up latinos and immigrants across the country. max detention camps. we have to do both. and the time we have left, a lot of times when folks talk about engaging we talk about the need for the biden campaign to engage republicans because as part of his coalition. moderate republican voters and independents. we talk about the need to gin up the base as well and treat base voters, young people, women, black and latino voters, what is the message when it comes to the economy for black and latino voters, young people . when i am talking to people, one of the chief concerns as economic. housing. the rent is too high all over. gut bless you if you want to buy a house and you were not rich. which your message to folks, here which is a about the border, trump scene phobic. what about the economy? we have to tell a story to the american people about who is fighting for them and fighting to make their lives better. it s not just the economy who is taking action to address corporate greed? action to address junk fees? lowering health care costs, cutting prescription cost for the american people? this takes time and these efforts to talk about the economy, connect joe biden s popular agenda, agenda that was hard to get past but he got it done, and remind them that not only did he make washington work but donald trump will undo all of that. he will increase health care costs. he s having big oil executives right his executive orders if they max out his campaign. we ve got to do it by showing up where voters are at. they are not watching the news every day. they are watching the weekend. we have to talk to them in tiktok. we have to be on the tabloid magazines. we have to be on podcast. we ve got to go but here s the thing. kevin, you ve got to connect to understanding that rent is too high. and understanding of the efforts we are undertaking are going to try to address that. the federal government cannot lower your rent, but policies can be put in place to make people to put people in better positions. wage increases would offset rancourt increases. that s important. symone hits an important part of this conversation for the biden team that connection of what s happening to me realtime i still don t know if you understand it and they want to hear that you understand that. absolutely. and i think we have a good opportunity. there is time but not much time. kevin muniz, good to see you. he tripled down on defending jim crow. that he did interfere with reverend sharpton is coming up and we will have some of that. be sure to follow us on social media. our handle his @theweekendmsnbc s to getting better with age. here s to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need. .without the stuff you don t. so, here s to now. boost. frustrated by skin tags? 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all russian and soviet dictators, their problem is they always think that they re the last line of defense. you are in power. you have the right to, if you decide, to destroy it so nobody else will get it. the united states doesn t even notice that the soviets are on edge. they didn t even put the soviet reaction into ronald reagan s presidential daily brief. [indistinct radio chatter] [narrator] before andropov can act, the able archer operation wraps up on schedule. [pilot] roger that. [narrator] andropov is finally persuaded that this really was just an exercise. this time. [tim] the united states didn t know to ratchet down the tension when it really mattered. that is an indicator of just the lack of understanding that the united states and the soviet union had of each other. but in a nuclear confrontation, lack of understanding can have catastrophic consequences when adversaries have nuclear weapons pointed at each other and don t understand each other. every day in every state across the country, our political system is bankrolled by an army of fund-raisers, pulling in millions of dollars a race. sometimes it looks like you might imagine knocking on doors, calling every name in the phone book, and emails so many emails. but for all those little fish throwing $100 to their local race, it s the whales those campaign fund-raisers really need powerful, rich individuals and companies. and when they donate $25,000, $100,000, a million dollars, they want a favor.or 10. it should be obvious that s corrupt, but with a wink and a nod, political deals toe the bribery line every single day. and we may never have noticed that if a certain illinois governor hadn t flung back the curtain with an unrepentant ego, a political corruption crime spree, and a set of unprecedented audio recordings that shined a bright light on the inner workings of american political power. ladies and gentlemen, meet rod blagojevich. it was early morning, cause i used to get up every morning and turn on the 6:00 news, and, you know, like, you re kinda waking up, and then you re like, well, wait, what? [helicopter whirring] oh, sh , they outside of blagojevich s house! they got cameras, they got cars, and then they march him out. and you re like, that s our governor, joe. breaking news the illinois governor, rod blagojevich, charged with plotting to sell barack obama s former senate seat. tapper: remember this guy? he sure hopes you do. governor rod blagojevich went down in a blaze of infamy for one of the largest political corruption scandals of our time. the governor was allegedly trying to sell the illinois senate seat vacated by president-elect obama. in fact, part of the governor s sales pitch was that the seat still had that new obama smell. [audience laughter] appointing someone to the senate is a rare opportunity when the will of the people is swapped wholesale for a gubernatorial power trip. blagojevich had the sole authority to place whomever he wanted straight into the halls of the u.s. senate, and he was not shy about wanting a little something in return. with the fbi recording his phone calls, for the first time since nixon, the public was able to listen in on raw backroom politics, and there s nothing quite like hearing it from the horse s mouth. reporter: the criminal complaint quotes blagojevich as saying the senate seat was a valuable thing. you just don t give it away for nothing. another quote i ve got this thing, and it s bleeping golden. [blagojevich speaking] i ve got this thing, and it s [bleep] golden. -yeah. -[audience laughter] and i m not just giving it up for [bleep] nothing. [laughter] was there a second [bleep] in there? tapper: racking up a staggering 24 criminal charges, governor blagojevich s actions essentially boiled down to four things extortion, bribery, corruption, and wire fraud. and it wasn t just about the senate seat. blagojevich was also found guilty of extorting a children s hospital. you can t write this stuff. he s an arrogant punk who thinks that, you know, he s bulletproof. well, he s not. he was convicted on 18 total charges and sentenced to 14 years, the longest sentence ever handed down to a governor. people loathed blagojevich for the way he politicked, but was what he did so blatantly criminal? cause the truth is that the line between what s illegal and what s allowable is much murkier than we d like to think, and this is where the rod blagojevich story gets interesting. let me reassert to all of you once more that i am not guilty of any criminal wrongdoing. [camera shutter clicks] was rod a corrupt politician or just a politician operating in a corrupt system that still thrives to this day? so, governor, thanks for doing this. thank you. so you ve been out of prison now for almost two years. a little over two years. and you re still very outspoken about how you feel like the case against you was unjust. there isn t really an argument about what you said. -right. -it s on tape. right. the question is whether it was illegal and whether it was morally wrong. look, if you re saying, do we have a fund-raising system in america that you can arguing is legalized bribery? i think there s truth to that. but did i do anything other than that standard that every other person in politics does, from president biden on down? i did the same as them and nothing worse. there is this real problem in american politics today where prosecutors are weaponizing themselves, criminalizing routine illegal practices in government politics, and i think it s wrong when they do it to bill clinton. it s wrong, i think, when they did it to president trump cause i have strong views on that, and i know it was wrong when they did it to me. okay, lot to unpack there. let s talk about the chicago and illinois system, because you re hardly the first governor in history, even in recent history, to to go to prison. what s the situation here that causes this to happen? well, i think it s time-honored here, and there s a long history in chicago politics, illinois politics, where pretty much everybody gets rich. ah, chicago politics. it s like going to a pay pond when you go fishing. like, if you are a prosecutor, you cannot be in illinois and not get something. illinois is steeped in a rich history of political corruption that dates back a century to the prohibition era, when bootlegging gangsters such as al capone bought off politicians and police departments, keeping them drunk on power and.also just drunk. in rod s lifetime, illinois has developed a rap sheet that any mobster would be proud of more than 1,700 convictions for corruption, including nearly 30 chicago aldermen, eight stage legislators, two u.s. congressmen, and before rod came onto the scene, three governors. in an odd way, the very people who should hate the idea of corruption are kind of proud that this is al capone s illinois. chicago is a wink and a nod town. -it s a shot and a beer town. -[clink] lot of it has to do with family relationships, because a lot of the political leadership in chicago and illinois are family-related. there s the daley family, the madigans. all of these families sort of become part of this mafia. -yeah. -a political mafia, and they re the ones who make the rules. i didn t come from that. i had to marry into it. i met a girl on the 6th of march, 1988. she was wearing a red dress, and she happened to be the daughter of an old-fashioned chicago political war boss. and she s my wife patti. we fell in love. patti blagojevich is a loyal wife, she is a tough customer, and she s the daughter of dick mell. she s complicated. that budding relationship between those two is how rod goes from this nobody politically, finding a way to kind of imbed himself into one of these big political families in chicago. they have so much power. i don t think it was, you know, some great surprise that, like, you know, when it comes time to meet the parents, that dick mell was the father-in-law and the the powerful city council chieftain. we re gonna try to work together to put this great city back together so that we re all part of it and we all feel free. dick mell was a guy who always had the voice in the backrooms. he was a power broker in that kind of chicago classic sense. before politics, it was a nice relationship, but for the most part, respectful. and then because i was in the family, and i was actually pretty good at helping her dad, local politics, knocking on doors and trying to get him votes, there was an opportunity to run for office. in rod blagojevich, mell could see a guy that eventually, if he does it right, i could sort of pass the mantle toward. rod was an immediate hit with illinois voters, who sent him first to the state house in 1992 and then to the u.s. congress in 1996. dick mell says, i can see you being governor. and i gotta be honest, i m sure if i m looking at it from dick mell s position, he s saying, man, if i can elect this guy governor, i can run the whole state. reporter: the campaign for illinois governor has gotten pretty lively. you ve got chicago congressman rod blagojevich. what s that name again? -bala-jo-vich. -reporter: bala-jo-vich, huh? -bala-jo-vich. -you sure? positive. tapper: during rod s 2002 governor s campaign, dick mell s membership in the old school chicago elite was a definite bonus, but it was rod s working class bonafides and people skills that did all the rest. coming from the family he did, he had a real working class chip on his shoulder, and his two heroes were elvis and richard nixon, both because they were guys who came from the wrong side of their tracks and fought their way up and were kind of disdained by the elites. in fact, if those two gritty 20th century icons fought their way into a single person, you might actually end up with rod blagojevich, for better and for worse. the rod blagojevich that i first met was youthful. he was energetic. he had this kind of mane of black hair that was super thick, and you could tell it was filled with hair product. the hair so iconic in its own right, that it became a comedy staple on every late night show. -the hair. -the hair. really, it looks like you re wearing a toupée that s also wearing a toupée. [audience laughter] he had a huge infatuation with elvis presley. his charisma was disarming. [cheers and applause] [amplified voice] thank you. thank you very much. [cheers, whistles, and applause] but the elvis of illinois was itching to lose his colonel parker, because despite the many benefits of dick mell s patronage, rod was still in his shadow. you know, he really became known as dick mell s son-in-law first. and i know he hated that. he didn t know how to both be his own man and not let dick mell foreshadow him. the only way for rod to survive outside of his father-in-law s machine was to create his own cash flow. so his first step was to hire two of chicago s most bare-knuckled political fund-raisers, chris kelly and tony rezko. chris kelly and tony rezko could generate big bucks. they were fund-raisers. they were donors. you know, let s just call em what they were. they were influence peddlers. they wound up being able to shake the bushes here and help rod raise money. they promised access and favors if blagojevich won, and they got results. where dick mell s good old boys would fetch $2,000 at a time, kelly and rezko would shake loose 50 grand. all that money plus rod s appeal to voters who had felt ignored by the entrenched chicago political dynasties well, it proved to be an unstoppable combination. he ran on some things that were uniquely important to black people. healthcare for kids is a good idea. when he said, free rides for seniors on public transportation, that resonated with black people specifically. blagojevich became governor in 2003. -congratulations, governor. -thank you. may god bless you. [cheers and applause] how do you view your your time as governor apart from the scandals? how do i say this in a way where i don t sound like a guy without any humility? but i truly believe i was a great governor. i can t think of any governor in my life that did anything for anybody i knew that can walk around and say, you know what? thank you, governor. my daughter had healthcare through you. free public transportation for seniors and the disabled? i did that cause they raised the sales tax, which hurts working people and poor people and seniors. with the legislature raising taxes that hit lower-income illinoisans hardest, and rod striking back with policies to offset that, it s no surprise that his populist agenda made him a lot of enemies amongst the big political families. to the people and the masses, he was on our team, and to the aristocracy and to the political elites, he was this guy that was taking their resources and giving em to the peasants, and so he became robin hood. i knew the reality that i m gonna have resistance from the old guard, the old ward bosses, the madigans, daley to some extent, my father-in-law, and so the goal was raise money now and raise a lot of it so that you can afford to make enemies, and you can afford to lose support. right, but some of these people that you were that you were relying on like chris kelly were were corrupt. -right? -turned out that chris had problems in his own personal business, and he was found guilty of those things. had nothing to do with me. but, like, a lot of the people in the world of fund-raising are not necessarily. -they are not. -.upstanding individuals. -no, they re not. -yeah. -no, they re not. what s the saying? ignorance is not a defense ? tony rezco and chris kelly they started compiling this list of different entities that were state contractors, and they hit all those people up for money, probably with rod s assistance. hey, you got a contract? you wanna keep it? or you want to get more? you gotta pony up. a lot of people in play have scalpel-like tendencies when they fund-raise, and rod was probably more of a meat cleaver. [beeping] -[telephone rings] -kelly and rezco were using government levers to squeeze anyone they could for a campaign contribution kickbacks like a cushy job or a fat contract, a little light extortion such as holding up teachers funds. they had deep pockets to fill and a financial machine to do it. you can t trade official actions as a governor in exchange for campaign contributions or jobs. i mean, there is one simple word for that. it s called graft. graft is simply the use of political power and authority in exchange for personal gain. to state the obvious, appointing unqualified people to state positions because you wanna use the government as a vending machine for your political campaign that s completely illegal. the m.o. was to make money from every state petitioner possible, and small-town hospital ceo pam davis looked like just another easy mark. but in this case, the whole shakedown process is recorded by the hospital executive who was getting shaken down. [laughs] woman: he needs to reset your wire. [laughs] oh, god, another wire. sorry for, uh. -i don t care. -just in here. uh, the governor really wasn t on my radar, um, at all until i experienced an extortion attempt through one of his, um, colleagues. pam s hospital system wanted to build a new facility in plainfield, illinois. seems pretty straightforward, but there were red flags right away when she went to get government approval for the project. davis: in my case, the governor had appointed individuals to this board who had either contributed money to his campaign, so they bought their way on, or individuals that were controlled by the governor and other individuals and would approve only those projects where a kickback was going to be given. turns out the board was willing to approve the hospital. all she had to do was use builders and lenders who were in their pocket and pad the contract so the board could take. let s call it a transaction fee for their trouble. it became clear to me that this was a major extortion attempt, and i was furious. so i called the fbi. the feds set her up with a wire so they could listen in on her meetings with board members and get the dirt straight from the source. she d be meeting with these players, and they would be basically laying out the whole scheme to her. davis: the contract would be padded, um, by roughly $10 million so that that money would go then to the various players. at one point, i decided, i wonder if this goes up to the governor, because the governor appoints these individuals to the various boards. the feds were wondering the same thing, and over the course of their investigation, their suspicions proved to be spot on. out of the public eye, rod s fund-raising goons, chris kelly and tony rezko, felt safe to strong-arm money from donors across illinois. but unbeknownst to them, the fbi was following their every move as part of a far-reaching corruption investigation into the blagojevich administration. as the money rolled in, their role in rod s administration only grew, which had his father-in-law, dick mell, feeling as though he d been served divorce papers. as dick mell famously said, he got replaced by a trophy wife or trophy wives. those were the people who were getting the love that he should have gotten and wasn t getting. we all know that you got here because of dick mell. rod says, i got my own team, and so don t talk to dick mell. not only does he not do what you wanna do, but he said, don t talk to my boss. i m the boss now. well, dick mell ain t feeling that, and dick mell is not the type to be like, so, may i talk to you privately? mell wears his heart on his sleeve, his anger on his sleeve. .leave me out! he can love you today, and if he starts hating you tomorrow, he can, you know, pull the switch just like that. and mell becomes more and more resentful of being cast aside, and so that fueled this tension in that family to the point where it eventually exploded. [explosion] that explosion came in 2005, and though it may not have aired on reality tv, it was still inextricably linked to garbage. rod blagojevich closed down this landfill which dick mell was a part owner of. rod said that this was for environmental issues. tapper: what did he want you to do? leave it alone, and i had learned that it was operating in violation of the environmental laws. i had knowledge of that. uh, ultimately, i decided i had a duty, that i had to shut it down, and then he made some accusations that really unleashed the furies. dick mell called a press conference and basically accused rod blagojevich of selling board and commission seats within state government. reporter: mell has had a falling out with his son-in-law, the governor. this is a family at war. so your father-in-law, dick mell, accused chris kelly of selling political favors for campaign contributions of $25,000 to $50,000 at a time. tell me about where were you when you heard that he was leveling this accusation. i remember vividly. it was early january of 2005, and this was the consequence of me shutting down his landfill. the very next day, he called a press conference, and he was clever enough to accuse chris kelly, not directly me, but that s me. i don t think he envisioned that it would turn into something that would ultimately land me in prison, but i know he did this to hurt me politically and cause me problems with the fbi. tapper: mel s allegations backed rod into a corner, giving the fbi room to prosecute his inner circle, until in 2008, the feds secured a secret wiretap on the governor himself. feeling the squeeze, rod started looking for some kind of escape route, and then a golden opportunity landed right in his lap. at this defining moment, change has come to america. [cheers and applause] now that senator barack obama is president-elect barack obama, someone will have to take over his senate seat. this is the governor s decision. uh, it is not my decision. the criteria that i would have for my successor would be the same criteria that i d have if i were a voter. senator obama becomes president obama. he resigns his senate seat. according to the law here in illinois, you as the governor get to name his replacement. now you re excited about this, and you say on tape, i d like to get the [bleep] out of here, and you re talking about options for yourself. does that mean, i d like to get the [bleep] out of here, you were sick of being governor? that s absolutely the things i was saying, of course, and i was looking at all kinds of options. so he attempted to trade obama s seat for a golden parachute. he begins to be heavily courted by all sorts of people who would love to be that u.s. senator. they saw something really valuable here a very valuable bargaining chip that could elevate his power in some way or or benefit them monetarily. when i said i wanted to get the eff out of here, it s because the fbi people and my persecutors were all over me, and it s the sort of thing, when that stuff s swirling around you, you know that stuff s swirling around you. -right. -and it s there. it s everywhere, and it and it was just very clear to me that they were determined to get me no matter what. i guess one question i have is knowing that they were looking at you, why did you talk about this stuff that way? look, i had 2,896 days in prison to ask myself a thousand questions, including that. but you know what? what s the alternative? i have all my staff and lawyers. we all go to saunas and get naked and talk to each other so nobody s got wires on em? -no, or -what s the alternative? or you just don t say anything, or you just say, like, this seat is very important, and we wanna make sure the best person gets it. and separately, i am thinking that i d like to not be governor of illinois anymore. well said. i don t make a habit of telling politicians how to avoid jail time, but here s the thing. being more cautious could have gotten rod everything he wanted and kept him out of prison, but caution is not really in rod s dna. [blagojevich speaking] [line disconnects] jackson: you know they taping you, so you can t say that out loud, right? breaking news the illinois governor charged with plotting to sell barack obama s former senate seat. reporter: illinois rod blagojevich was arrested tuesday morning by federal authorities and charged with corruption. dude. dude! dude. you know they trying to get you, dawg. but why? why? reporter: the day after being arrested on corruption charges, illinois governor rod blagojevich walked out of his house and headed back to work. -[camera shutter clicks] -tapper: all in all, rod blagojevich was facing 24 charges connected to four specific events the attempted sale of obama s senate seat, withholding legislation that would benefit a children s hospital and racetrack in an attempt to get political contributions, and the attempted extortion of a highway contractor. [amplified voice, chanting] 2, 3, 4, blago must go! i personally think he should at least step aside if not resign. my husband is an honest man, and i know that he s innocent. jackson: he thought that he had the moral high ground. i don t believe there s any cloud that hangs over me. -man: governor, governor -well, getting back to that, can we discuss your i think there s nothing but sunshine hanging over me. he didn t show any of the humility or anything. you just can t stick your finger in the eye of the federal government. let me reassert to all of you once more that i am not guilty of any criminal wrongdoing, that i m confident that at the end of the day, i will be, uh, properly, uh, exonerated. [reporters speaking at once] i represented rod blagojevich in two of his criminal trials. i mean, he wanted to fight his case. he believed he was innocent, and he was working to that end to try and prove his innocence. anyone who believes that this was a selling of some senate seat doesn t understand politics. every single day in politics, that is what happens, is this horse-trading. and if you really listen to this in context, what you heard was talking with various people, getting annoyed, talking about nonsense, and then the end. nothing really that was ever acted on. later, rod blagojevich s lawyers would argue that what rod did specifically with the senate seat was no worse than when president eisenhower appointed earl warren as chief justice of the supreme court. back in 1952, dwight eisenhower s about to win the nomination to become the republican president. earl warren, the governor of california, is withholding the delegation s votes. governor warren tells eisenhower, i ll deliver the delegation for you on one condition. i wanna be the next chief justice of the supreme court. ike, the great war hero, shakes hands, says, you got a deal. he wins. one year later, earl warren is the chief justice of the united states supreme court. rod wanted a political appointment from obama, and for that, he was prepared to trade obama s old senate seat, which is actually legal. otherwise, eisenhower would have gone to jail, and americans would not have liked ike. do you see yourself as somebody who was just trying to function in perhaps an inherently corrupt but legal system, and that theoretically almost any politician could be snagged the way you were? absolutely. of course i do, except i m giving me higher marks. because i was using that money that that and that power gave me to fight an established system that served itself on the backs of the people, and when you do that, you piss a lot of people off, and they wanna get rid of you. but do you think that you re earthier about it? like, more outspoken about it? well, i wasn t hiding any of it, but these because it s legal, and that s how you govern. abraham lincoln was able to get the 13th amendment passed at congress, which ratified the emancipation proclamation, freeing slaves. he had to make political deals with members of congress to get the votes to pass it. -that s how you get things done. -you re not comparing yourself to abraham lincoln. -by no means. -okay. -and please say that. i m not comparing myself to abraham lincoln. you re not or the emancipation proclamation. okay, right. he s a lot taller than me, and i never did anything as great as that, of course not. -but you re also not talking about the i mean, the emancipation proclamation of course i m not. governor blagojevich tried to sell the appointment to the senate seat vacated by president-elect obama. the conduct would make lincoln roll over in his grave. you re very critical of pat fitzgerald. yeah, he s an evil guy. he s a wicked guy. he s a scoundrel, and he deserves to get an ass kicking. you know? and he s a big coward. anyway, go ahead. sorry. well, i think he would take issue with everything you just said. you know, he has a reputation for being the choirboy, for being, you know, an upstanding, moral person. he sees himself as, i am trying to uphold some basic standards for our politicians. that s how he views it. governor blagojevich has been arrested in the middle of what we can only describe as a political corruption crime spree. we had a political and public narrative that we had to overcome, and when the entire potential jury pool believes that your client is guilty before they ve even heard the evidence, you re going into the trial like if it s a basketball game, you re losing 100 to nothing. or it s like if you re a governor, and you re getting impeached 114 to 1, and the lone vote in rod s favor his sister-in-law, deb mell. done from office and eager to prove he was not a crook, rod knew exactly where to plead his case. please welcome to the program governor rod blagojevich! [applause] you are a charming dude with the best set of hair i ve ever [bleep] seen. [audience laughter] so i want this to be real. got some challenges ahead, but, uh, i m gonna trust in the truth and as it says in the bible, the truth shall set you free. rod blagojevich just.kept.talking. how are you? you wanna get on tv? come on in. i think he was able to warm himself a little bit with the public. better to be seen as a klutz than a crook. sure, everyone loves a good laugh, but oversaturating the talk show circuit may have had unintended consequences, as david letterman told rod when he appeared on the late show in 2009. the more you talked and the more you repeated your innocence, the more i said to myself, oh, this guy s guilty. [laughter] so during the period from your impeachment to your trial and your sentencing, you did a lot of media appearances. what was the strategy behind that? my feeling was like, look, i didn t do any of that stuff, and what does somebody do who s being lied about? but you have a tremendous desire to get out at the highest mountain and yell out, i didn t do it. well, letterman said that the louder you yelled it, the more it made him think you were guilty. yeah. yeah, i mean, i didn t i didn t convince him, but, uh, i think i convinced donald trump. that s why i got invited on celebrity apprentice, right? i have great respect for your tenacity, for the fact that you just don t give up. but, rod.you re fired. what i saw over the course of rod s career was a guy who started off as kind of a charming rogue and a guy who really did give voice to concerns that people had to someone who became almost a parody of himself. and by the time that trial came around, he really was his own worst enemy. see you in court. he thought that the court of public opinion could save him, but he had disturbed forces that decided, it was a wrap for you, dude. don t poke the feds, fam. just don t do it. man: blago, can i get your autograph? reporter: at verdict today, in a notorious case that federal prosecutors did not want to hear, rod blagojevich was convicted today on only one count. -see you guys! -man: way to go, baby! tapper: the jury was hung on all but one of the charges against blagojevich, and without unanimous consent, the result was a mistrial on the remaining 23 charges. the jury, like a lot of people to this day, just could not agree on whether what he d done was actually illegal. in that first trial, the jury deadlocked on everything except for lying to the fbi. -right. you were convicted of lying to the fbi. -right. -do you acknowledge that you lied to the fbi? -no. no. i don t. i ll tell you about that. it was about how much of your associates that were fund-raising for you, the degree to which you knew what you were doing. yeah, it was the issue was i said, i didn t, as a practice, track fund-raising. and who got contracts? i didn t. i didn t look into who got contracts. i wasn t interested in that. i had 27,000 contributors. i wasn t tracking who gave me money, who got what. the first trial was too confusing for the jury, and they had a lot of paper documents. it was a lot of witness testimony. man: governor, are you anxious for this to begin? i feel great. absolutely. what the government did in the second trial is they pared down their their case, and they believed that everything was in the tapes and they needed to make this trial a lot simpler. [blagojevich speaking] he was swearing a lot. .and upset and not appreciative of the position that he had. and i think that was more influential in the jury s decision than than anything. it made him look bad. breaking news right now the jury has reached a decision, convicting blagojevich on 17 counts of corruption. -reporter: wire fraud. -bribery. blitzer: attempted extortion. solicitation of a bribe. blitzer: racketeering. conspiracy to commit bribery and conspiracy to commit extortion. rod blagojevich was convicted on almost all counts and sentenced to 14 years. patti and i are obviously very disappointed, uh, in the outcome. i, frankly, am am stunned. when did you realize, oh, shit, i might actually be going to prison ? -from the beginning. -really? -i knew i was a dead man. -really? -yeah. -why? cause they have so much power and resources, and i, you know, wasn t really surprised when i got 14 years. the justification for the judge was, you treated this like a golden glove boxing match, but those corrupt liars are lucky dueling is outlawed, cause i d have challenged them to a duel. rapists and murderers get so much less time? that s why this system is so wrong and so broken. let me offer you an alternate theory. sure. my alternate theory is that the entire system of justice that we have in this country depends on prosecutors and police who are incentivized to get convictions. -mm-hmm. -period. what do you think of that? well, i think you re almost right. [laughs] i never took a penny. no one says i did. i keep saying that cause that s so important to me. i don t want people to think that i was some one of these corrupt politicians that was taking cash. tapper: but remember, even though he never actually got that envelope full of money, that was because the feds closed in before the senate deal was done. the offers being considered, campaign contributions or a lucrative job in a nonprofit, the fact of accepting them that would have been simply illegal, hence, the charge of conspiracy to commit bribery, which he was definitely guilty of. rod s argument is no cash changed hands, but prior to that, there had been plenty of money changing hands. there s ample evidence these government positions, these government contracts they were effectively for sale. it does not matter if rod blagojevich actually won the argument and got the money or the donations he was seeking. it s the ask. if something goofs it up, but the burglary or robbery s interrupted, it doesn t make it less of an intended burglary or robbery, right? he had his day in court. that 14 years was what the system gave him. so you went to prison for almost eight years? 2,896 days. and let me tell ya what gets you through prison when you have to face something like that. it s love and it s faith love for my daughters and my wife. you know, when i was arrested, within days, the vegas oddsmakers had it 9 to 1 that she was leaving. so in that sense, i ve been so lucky and blessed. after he was sent to prison, patti proclaimed his innocence, and she did try and go to any leader that she could find to have him either pardoned or commuted. and when all else failed, patti blagojevich knew exactly who to appeal to next. after rod goes to prison, patti was essential in keeping their life together. more than anything else, maybe, she got in donald trump s ear. trump had a connection with blagojevich cause rod was on the apprentice, and patti blagojevich was on fox news every day. you know, we know that president trump is a kind man, and he s compassionate. he s always been kind to my family. and when you speak on fox news, you have a direct connection with donald trump. today the president sprung from prison former illinois governor rod blagojevich, who was convicted after attempting his own quid pro quo. yes, uh, we have commuted the sentence of rod. i watched his wife on television. quote, um, i watched his wife on television. -yes. -end quote. how did how did that happen? i think he just saw he he would tell me he liked the fact that i was fighting back. i remember him saying something like, uh, you know, i have friends that go through what you re going through, and they re in a corner. they can t even move, and you re out there throwing punches. i think he liked that. i m so grateful to him. sometimes things happen in life where god intervenes in the most unbelievable ways. trump, blagojevich, fox news? i m not sure how much god played a role in any of this. when rod came home from prison after eight years, his daughters had grown up. how are your relationships with them? they re good. i m i m getting to know them. our family was broken for a long time. the difficulties that i talked about with my father-in-law, those were heartbreaking, because in spite of everything, i love him, and he s been good to me in so many ways. and, uh, you know, it s been a tough road for my wife. our lives could have been so much simpler, so much better. understandably, rod looks back on the time away from his family with regret, not for what he did, of course, but that he was sent to prison in the first place. but what else would you expect from rod? i am a political prisoner. i was put in prison for practicing politics. wait a minute. you re a political prisoner? nelson mandela was a political prisoner. political prisoners have no due process. i was thrown in prison and spent nearly eight years in prison for practicing politics, for seeking campaign contributions without a quid pro quo. you do have an obligation to at least admit what you did wrong, and you refuse to do that, and you re creating a whole new alternate universe of facts, and that may be big in politics today, but it s still, frankly, just bullshit. a reporter, uh, asked you if you wanted to say sorry to the people of illinois, and you said, sorry for what? -do you still feel that way? -very much so. i ve done a lot wrong. criminal? none. you and your defenders argue that the persecution, prosecution of you is about the criminalization of politics. in other words, there is horse-trading that goes on in politics. you do me this favor. i ll do you this favor, and that s all you were doing, and that it s legal, but they made it out to be illegal. well, first of all, it s not illegal. now you can argue whether we should improve our laws. that s a valid thing. i would think there s a lot of room to improve the fund-raising laws, but that s not illegal at all, and it s a common practice. now ultimately, after i ve been in prison for four years, the appellate court reverses that big lie of the sale of the senate seat, and they said it s routine political logrolling. and look, that s partially true. the court did vacate the conviction related to obama s senate seat, but they never said he did nothing wrong. the court said there was a jury instruction issue, and they upheld the remaining 13 counts. so contrary to his claim, he has not been exonerated. and for the love of elvis, we can only hope that rod s crimes are not routine. if there is a big lie, it s that he s a victim, especially since every other charge was upheld, including the extortion of a children s hospital. gandhi, he ain t. this isn t some sort of mystery, that, gosh, i didn t know. i had no idea. it s so gray. really? i think most of us have some gut sense of when we re beginning to get in trouble. i don t believe blagojevich has ever done any reflection on right and wrong. extorting a hospital never occurred to him that that might harm the citizens that he was elected to protect. he he has no ability to look at anything but himself. that s it. that s it. what s the worst thing that can be said about you that s accurate in your view, other than you were stupid to say that stuff? sure. look, i ve been accused of being a narcissist. i might plead to a misdemeanor on that, okay? um, i think i my judgment of some people was way off. i think i should have been a lot more vigilant and see some of the warning signs. i knew they were aggressively out there raising money, and i didn t slow it down because i wanted to raise the campaign money. i could have been more vigilant on that in retrospect. close, but no cigar. whether or not rod trusted the wrong people, he set them loose on illinois because they brought him the most money. whether the rules on political fund-raising are flimsy guardrails at best,

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