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is in the job, how do you have a recertification to ensure they are not radicalizing once they get in. >> in terms of where salah abdeslam may be, could he be in someplace like syria? >> he certainly could be on the way to syria. i think they feel they are getting closer to him as i was saying, this associate who picked him up once he got back to brussels, he was brought back by two friends driving through the night. they've got that guy in custody now. every step of the way they are getting closer and closer. i wouldn't be surprised if there is an arrest in the next 24 to 48 hours. >> see whether it's an arrest or he does try to go down with some horrific act. thanks to all three of you. exclusive new video of the russian plane shot down after only seconds in turkish air space. the pilot meeting a brutal death on the ground.
it's not just russia, turkey, it's iran, saudi arabia. it is expanding rather than contracting and nobody has a strategic plan. we have to do something now, sit everybody down and if ig this out. the way things are going now, i wouldn't be surprised if there's a wider conflict between turkey and russia unless we can step in the middle of this. they need to deconflict right now. the turks are determined to protect those people in northern syria. if the russians continue to bomb them, the turks will respond in a like manner. >> that puts the united states in a very tough spot, obviously, turkey with a nato member. thanks to both of you. up next, isis may be eyeing soft targets in the u.s. as new york city desperately adds more detectives to counter the threats against the crucial thanksgiving day parade. >> video release showeding a black teen riddled with bullets at the hand of a chicago police officer six seconds after arriving on the scene, shooting 16 times to kill.
posture. clearly, the russians right now are looking at this thing trying to figure out, we've got a u.s. aircraft and we now had the first gun fight between a u.s. aircraft and former soviet russian aircraft and they are going to do forensics to figure out what went wrong. the key issue is that the russians are hugely provocative. they have been provocative hundreds of times before. they are somewhat cavalier with their use of military force. when they poke us in the eye, go after other elements to provoke a response, you end up with something like this. >> bob, again you see someone yelling "allah akbar" shooting a russian pilot as he floats defenseless to the ground, you have used worth world war iii. >> i stick by that. this mosaic in the middle east of conflict is getting out of control.
of nato shoots a plane out of the sky? is that protocol? it seems shocking. >> it's not protocol. the issue is the attitude of the aircraft, what that aircraft is trying to do is what's paramount. obviously, the turkish f-16, u.s.-built f-16 had a position and had an attitude on that aircraft that it was able to pick it up, paint it, identify it as something other than a friendly aircraft. there are additional steps you can go through before you would engage to shoot to kill. in a situation like this where you see an aircraft, warning shots are not to be used almost at all. it's part of the protocol. warning shots are if somebody is wandering through your air space, you can't communicate with them and you want to say i think you're offcourse, move away. in this particular case, they needed to be able to determine what the attitude of the russian aircraft was. it probably was not in an attack
by turkey. though say the jet was only in turkish air space less than 30 seconds. president obama defended the action. >> turkey, like every country, has a right to defend its territory and its air space. >> peyton walsh is "out front" in istanbul. >> this is the moment the war on isis lurched yet again out of control. a russian plane at 9:24 local time turkey says in its air space is hit by turkish f-16s. warned to leave ten times in five minutes. releasing a map where it violated their borders. the pilots become the target as they go down.
>> reporter: another terrifying moment. another reminder syrian war finds constant new ways. we don't know the fate of the stage of that second pilot. also we don't know how long that russian aircraft was in turkish air space. that isn't clear at this stage. that uncertainty does not help anybody here draw a line under a moment, an instant which frankly everybody in the world wants over as quickly as possible. >> thank you very much. that was an incredibly disturbing video. i'm joined by former cia operative bob baer. you believe and when we see that video, it is shocking and hard to watch when you're watching someone laugh shooting down those pilots and killing them, as they drifted down completely defenseless. it is horrific to see.
fighters who have genuine west european passports? that's where the threat is. that's what we've got to look at. >> you wrote an op-ed in the "wall street journal" about this, "you call it al qaeda version 6.0. the islamic state is far better organized, equipped and funded than the original. several thousand carry western passports. all terrorists have to do is get on a plane and head west." is it that easy? >> obviously, there are controls in place. a number of these european passport holders are on watch lists, no-fly lists. i doubt if all of them are. it only take a few to get through. it is not a cakewalk into this country. we've done a tremendous amount with security and intelligence since 9/11. my point simply is that the threat is far more likely to come from individuals trained and determined who hold valid european passports or perhaps
this is a very big moment. >> i think it's a huge moment. i think putin is going to respond. he could do any number of things like putting in surface-to-air missiles in syria. i wouldn't put it past him. he's not going to back down. if you listen to pout incarefully, he said their presence, their military presence in syria is an act of self-defense because so many people are coming to syria getting training and one day will come back. that's the way he framed this conflict. the chances of this escalating from here without deconfliction is good. >> certainly framing the president of france can understand now. what happened here, when you see the plane shot down out of the sky, the turks said they warned the plane ten times. the united states says that plane was in turkish air space 30 seconds or less, and a member