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newsnight programme. which means he is up when the uk sleeps making sure national news in the us as well reported in the uk is sleeping his probably find a felt stories here to, so he never rests. sunday was commonwealth day — the annual celebration of an institution created to maintain links which in the past were the result of exploration, colonisation and conquest. queen elizabeth, its head since august 1952, may see it as proof that empire has given way to equality. yet hours later, harry her grandson and his wife meghan, were — in that much—trailed tv interview — describing the british monarchy as an institution where there were "concerns and conversations about how dark" their unborn baby's skin might be. harry said racism — in the country, the media and the palace — was a "large part" of why the couple have left the uk for good. this is clearly damaging to the families involved but how damaging is it to the institution? it is families involved but how damaging is it to the institution?— is it to the institution? it is no difference _ is it to the institution? it is no difference between _ is it to the institution? it is no difference between a - is it to the institution? it is no difference between a family i is it to the institution? it is no difference between a family in is it to the institution? it is no - difference between a family in the institution because the only point of the institution is to breed and reproduce and produce the next monarch, it really has no other function, and everything that happens in the family is political because their political figures in a public family, and the accusation of racism coming right now when the whole world is far more sensitised after the black lives matter movement and has been very powerful here and made all sorts of organisations look at themselves that end, it is an absolute tragedy that end, it is an absolute tragedy that one of the chances of the monarchy to modernise itself was the arrival of harry and meghan together as, you know, a multiracial couple with a whole new breath of fresh air, if you like, into the royal family. i think this is done then terrible harm but they have let them go and do nothing to hold onto them and we are, anyway going to be in a crisis of the monarchy. the queen can't live, she will die sometime in the next decade, and the transition to the rather unpopular prince charles, i think will make a whole lot of people think again, and possibly the monarchy is quietly coming to its close and maybe she will be a lizard lot of people think again, and possibly the monarchy is quietly coming to its clothes and maybe she will be elizabeth the last. ., , ., , last. now there is an interesting challenging _ last. now there is an interesting challenging statement _ last. now there is an interesting challenging statement to - last. now there is an interesting challenging statement to offer. | challenging statement to offer. henry, the sussex is live in california, which effectively is in your beat on the la times. you are also a former variety magazine correspondent and you know quite a lot about the celebrity culture on the west coast. i wonder whether this interview has helped or hindered their prospects of achieving what they say they want to achieve, which is a new life for their immediate family away from the royals. their immediate family away from the r0 als. ~ ., �* ~' , royals. well, i don't think they will ever be _ royals. well, i don't think they will ever be out _ royals. well, i don't think they will ever be out of— royals. well, i don't think they will ever be out of the - royals. well, i don't think they l will ever be out of the limelight. this is_ will ever be out of the limelight. this is still— will ever be out of the limelight. this is still a prince of the realm here _ this is still a prince of the realm here in— this is still a prince of the realm here in britain, and she was an herein britain, and she was an actress— here in britain, and she was an actress before they married and so was already used to being in the spotlight — was already used to being in the spotlight as well. they are always going _ spotlight as well. they are always going to _ spotlight as well. they are always going to be hounded by the press to a certain_ going to be hounded by the press to a certain degree and people will always— a certain degree and people will always be interested in what they do. always be interested in what they lie they — always be interested in what they do. they can have a more normal life, _ do. they can have a more normal life. quote — do. they can have a more normal life, quote on quote normal, away from _ life, quote on quote normal, away from some — life, quote on quote normal, away from some of the british tabloids in terms _ from some of the british tabloids in terms of— from some of the british tabloids in terms of being constantly followed in their_ terms of being constantly followed in their activities as royals. i think— in their activities as royals. i think that _ in their activities as royals. i think that is something they will find to— think that is something they will find to he — think that is something they will find to be a breath of fresh air. meghan— find to be a breath of fresh air. meghan was already use a celebrity culture _ meghan was already use a celebrity culture as _ meghan was already use a celebrity culture as you say because she is an actress— culture as you say because she is an actress hy— culture as you say because she is an actress by training and already went to the _ actress by training and already went to the hollywood experience and how he has _ to the hollywood experience and how he has also _ to the hollywood experience and how he has also been in the limelight since _ he has also been in the limelight since it— he has also been in the limelight since it was a small child —— harry has also _ since it was a small child —— harry has also been in the limelight sol don't _ has also been in the limelight sol don't think— has also been in the limelight sol don't think that has been a novelty to them _ don't think that has been a novelty to them but was simply the treatment they received as a couple and once they received as a couple and once they were — they received as a couple and once they were fully out as royals performing royal duties. ithink, as they said. — performing royal duties. ithink, as they said, with this interview particularly now behind them they are going — particularly now behind them they are going to be generating headlines, i think, are going to be generating headlines, ithink, forweeks are going to be generating headlines, i think, for weeks and perhaps— headlines, i think, for weeks and perhaps years to come. i wonder, thou~h, perhaps years to come. i wonder, though. if— perhaps years to come. i wonder, though, if there _ perhaps years to come. i wonder, though, if there is _ perhaps years to come. i wonder, though, if there is a _ perhaps years to come. i wonder, though, if there is a difficulty - though, if there is a difficulty here because in a sense of future prospects and only potential depends on maintaining their celebrity and their opportunities to be talking points, yet that goes exactly against everything they said they desire, which is privacy, something close to a normal life, whatever the normal life is for a high—profile international celebrity couple, but something which doesn't involve this constant negativity which they associate with particularly the tabloid press in the uk, even going so far is meghan suggesting that there was an unhealthy mutual dependency between the royal family in the uk and the media, i kind of mutual contempt was a mutual need as well. i mean, in a sense they are trapped in this, aren't they? timer;r trapped in this, aren't they? they are, and trapped in this, aren't they? they are. and the _ trapped in this, aren't they? they are, and the royal— trapped in this, aren't they? they are, and the royal family - trapped in this, aren't they? tie: are, and the royal family is and trapped in this, aren't they? ti21. are, and the royal family is and of are, and the royalfamily is and of course the royalfamily are, and the royalfamily is and of course the royal family does hate the press but they rely on the press. they are there to be figureheads and if you're a figure head you have got to be in public. i think ever since rupert murdoch arrived here the gloves were off in terms of how the tabloid street the vial. up until then, there was a measure of respect and he just threw that away and said we willjust go to every lowdown bit of gossip we confine. —— gloves were off in terms of how the tabloids treat the royals. but the royals have to have a relationship that press. some sort of trading to score all the time, we can have this picture, we will give you that, if you leave us alone here, but, you know, celebrity is what royalty is. i think you have your meghan the story might be different and in a fine of five or ten years time nobody is much interested in them longer and if they are no longer plugged into the bile to become like the poor old duke and duchess of windsor, the tide in paris, not quite enough money, every bit of a miserable and absolutely not in the public eye and they may not like that either. that reference of _ they may not like that either. that reference of the _ they may not like that either. that reference of the duke and duchess of windsor he was briefly the king but insisted on marrying an american divorcee and had to give up that crown and went into effectively exiled. i mean, that was all 70 years ago. one might assume that in some sense a country like the uk might have thought it had moved quite a long way forward in 70 years. the question of the specs, doesn't it, is what is the british monarchy for?— doesn't it, is what is the british monarchy for? well, it provides constitutional _ monarchy for? well, it provides constitutional continuity. - monarchy for? well, it provides constitutional continuity. as - monarchy for? well, it provides constitutional continuity. as we | constitutional continuity. as we know, _ constitutional continuity. as we know. even _ constitutional continuity. as we know, even notwithstanding. constitutional continuity. as we | know, even notwithstanding the effects — know, even notwithstanding the effects of— know, even notwithstanding the effects of the _ know, even notwithstanding the effects of the last _ know, even notwithstanding the effects of the last two _ know, even notwithstanding the effects of the last two weeks, . know, even notwithstanding the . effects of the last two weeks, still immensely— effects of the last two weeks, still immensely popular— effects of the last two weeks, still immensely popular when - effects of the last two weeks, still immensely popular when you - effects of the last two weeks, still immensely popular when you do l immensely popular when you do polling _ immensely popular when you do polling on— immensely popular when you do polling on it _ immensely popular when you do polling on it i_ immensely popular when you do polling on it. i mean, _ immensely popular when you do polling on it. i mean, ratings- immensely popular when you do polling on it. i mean, ratings ofi polling on it. i mean, ratings of anything — polling on it. i mean, ratings of anything between _ polling on it. i mean, ratings of anything between 60 _ polling on it. i mean, ratings of anything between 60 and - polling on it. i mean, ratings of anything between 60 and 80%| polling on it. i mean, ratings of. anything between 60 and 80% of polling on it. i mean, ratings of- anything between 60 and 80% of the populatl°“_ anything between 60 and 80% of the imputation say— anything between 60 and 80% of the imputation say they _ anything between 60 and 80% of the population say they support - anything between 60 and 80% of the population say they support it, - anything between 60 and 80% of the population say they support it, so . population say they support it, so in a sense — population say they support it, so in a sense it — population say they support it, so in a sense it has _ population say they support it, so in a sense it has that _ population say they support it, so in a sense it has that figurehead i in a sense it has that figurehead role, _ in a sense it has that figurehead role, it— in a sense it has that figurehead role, it has— in a sense it has that figurehead role, it has a _ in a sense it has that figurehead role, it has a constitutional- in a sense it has that figurehead role, it has a constitutional role| role, it has a constitutional role at certain — role, it has a constitutional role at certain times, _ role, it has a constitutional role at certain times, change - role, it has a constitutional role at certain times, change of- role, it has a constitutional role i at certain times, change of power, and it— at certain times, change of power, and it is— at certain times, change of power, and it is a — at certain times, change of power, and it is a necessary— at certain times, change of power, and it is a necessary thing - at certain times, change of power, and it is a necessary thing in- at certain times, change of power, and it is a necessary thing in that i and it is a necessary thing in that sense _ and it is a necessary thing in that sense now. _ and it is a necessary thing in that sense now. of— and it is a necessary thing in that sense. now, of course, - and it is a necessary thing in that i sense. now, of course, republicans will save— sense. now, of course, republicans will save you — sense. now, of course, republicans will save you can _ sense. now, of course, republicans will save you can do _ sense. now, of course, republicans will save you can do that _ sense. now, of course, republicans will save you can do that with - sense. now, of course, republicans will save you can do that with otherl will save you can do that with other things— will save you can do that with other things and — will save you can do that with other things and have _ will save you can do that with other things and have an _ will save you can do that with other things and have an elected - will save you can do that with other. things and have an elected president or get— things and have an elected president or get around — things and have an elected president or get around that _ things and have an elected president or get around that in _ things and have an elected president or get around that in various - things and have an elected president or get around that in various ways i or get around that in various ways but it— or get around that in various ways but it is— or get around that in various ways but it is also— or get around that in various ways but it is also a _ or get around that in various ways but it is also a potent _ or get around that in various ways but it is also a potent national- but it is also a potent national symbol, — but it is also a potent national symbol, isn't— but it is also a potent national symbol, isn't it? _ but it is also a potent national symbol, isn't it? i— but it is also a potent national symbol, isn't it? i mean, - but it is also a potent national symbol, isn't it? i mean, i- but it is also a potent national- symbol, isn't it? i mean, i noticed some— symbol, isn't it? i mean, i noticed some of— symbol, isn't it? i mean, i noticed some of the — symbol, isn't it? i mean, i noticed some of the polling _ symbol, isn't it? i mean, i noticed some of the polling that _ symbol, isn't it? i mean, i noticed some of the polling that we - symbol, isn't it? i mean, i noticed some of the polling that we have i some of the polling that we have seen _ some of the polling that we have seen post—interview— some of the polling that we have seen post—interview was - some of the polling that we have seen post—interview was about . some of the polling that we have - seen post—interview was about simply for meghan— seen post—interview was about simply for meghan hut— seen post—interview was about simply for meghan but and _ seen post—interview was about simply for meghan but and have _ seen post—interview was about simply for meghan but and have a _ seen post—interview was about simply for meghan but and have a but - seen post—interview was about simply for meghan but and have a but i - for meghan but and have a but i think— for meghan but and have a but i think that — for meghan but and have a but i think that was _ for meghan but and have a but i think that was slightly— for meghan but and have a but ij think that was slightly confusing the issue — think that was slightly confusing the issue because _ think that was slightly confusing the issue because of— think that was slightly confusing the issue because of course - think that was slightly confusing i the issue because of course there will he _ the issue because of course there will be some _ the issue because of course there will be some ardent _ the issue because of course there will be some ardent republicansl the issue because of course there . will be some ardent republicans who have no— will be some ardent republicans who have no sympathy— will be some ardent republicans who have no sympathy for _ will be some ardent republicans who have no sympathy for her _ will be some ardent republicans who have no sympathy for her and - will be some ardent republicans who| have no sympathy for her and equally there will— have no sympathy for her and equally there will he — have no sympathy for her and equally there will be people _ have no sympathy for her and equally there will be people who _ have no sympathy for her and equally there will be people who are - have no sympathy for her and equally there will be people who are quite . there will be people who are quite sympathetic — there will be people who are quite sympathetic to _ there will be people who are quite sympathetic to the _ there will be people who are quite sympathetic to the monarchy- there will be people who are quite j sympathetic to the monarchy after all of _ sympathetic to the monarchy after all of this— sympathetic to the monarchy after all of this so — sympathetic to the monarchy after all of this so i_ sympathetic to the monarchy after all of this so i think— sympathetic to the monarchy after all of this so i think it— sympathetic to the monarchy after all of this so i think it is— sympathetic to the monarchy after all of this so i think it is quite - all of this so i think it is quite hard — all of this so i think it is quite hard to— all of this so i think it is quite hard to judge _ all of this so i think it is quite hard tojudge how— all of this so i think it is quite hard tojudge how much- all of this so i think it is quite i hard tojudge how much damage all of this so i think it is quite - hard tojudge how much damage it has actually— hard tojudge how much damage it has actually done — hard tojudge how much damage it has actually done to — hard tojudge how much damage it has actually done to the _ hard tojudge how much damage it has actually done to the institution - hard tojudge how much damage it has actually done to the institution and - actually done to the institution and in the _ actually done to the institution and in the commonwealth _ actually done to the institution and in the commonwealth context, - actually done to the institution andj in the commonwealth context, you know, _ in the commonwealth context, you know. everybody— in the commonwealth context, you know, everybody expects - in the commonwealth context, you know, everybody expects there - in the commonwealth context, you know, eve

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