after the markets opened despite raising their revenue forecasts — as the chain saw a slowdown in purchases in october. they said customers are still getting used to higher interest rates. erin delmore is in new york for us. what do these figures tell us about what american consumers are thinking right now? what american consumers are thinking riaht now? ~ . ., , what american consumers are thinking riaht now? ~ . . , ., ., right now? walmart is warning that can she were _ right now? walmart is warning that can she were spending _ right now? walmart is warning that can she were spending could - right now? walmart is warning that can she were spending could be - can she were spending could be slower heading into the fourth corner and that contains the holiday shopping season. that is an area of discretionary spending for consumers where we have seen the effects of the economy take its toll, especially when we talk about high interest rates, persistent elevation, lowered savings accounts and the resumption of student loan payments here in the united states. specifically walmart is saying that it has seen customers wait for sales events to do some of their discretionary shopping. maybe not making purchases, waiting for sale, and not making them afterwards as well. of course all of that takes its toll on walmart. we do have two really big sale events coming up, black friday and cyber monday. meanwhile it is worth noting that some of the strength of walmart�*s shares in the last year has been on that non—discretionary spending. food and daly necessities. of course walmart is the nation's largest grocer and in fact more than half of its merchandise comes from the food and daly necessities category. part of that has propped up walmart. shares hit an all—time high on wednesday but the outlook they are warning could be tougherfor q wednesday but the outlook they are warning could be tougher for 0 four. and economic indicator, something more official than walmart �*s figures, butjob figures telling us more people out of work. just explain this for us. this could be good news for inflation, couldn't it? it good news for inflation, couldn't it? , . ., it? it sounds counterintuitive but when peeple _ it? it sounds counterintuitive but when peeple are _ it? it sounds counterintuitive but when people are gainfully - it? it sounds counterintuitive but. when people are gainfully employed they have more money to spend and when people are spending more that high consumer spending can prop up inflation across the economy and across the country. when we see jobless this rise and see more people out of work that tends to tamp down spending and there is a bit of a feedback loop there. it is worth noting a deployment has been historically low, under 4%, for the last 21 months. that is an eyebrow raising feat, considering the economic moment were in. absolutely. good to talk — economic moment were in. absolutely. good to talk to — economic moment were in. absolutely. good to talk to you, _ economic moment were in. absolutely. good to talk to you, as _ economic moment were in. absolutely. good to talk to you, as always, - economic moment were in. absolutely. good to talk to you, as always, live - good to talk to you, as always, live in new york. here in the uk the government are due to announce a significant new set of sweeteners for the electric car industry tomorrow, the bbc understands. the chancellor is expected to be offering hundreds of millions of pounds in additional subsidies and grants available to companies wanting to manufacture batteries for evs in the uk. this is all part of a wider package aimed at stimulating growth in the economy. one area he has been speaking about today is targeting the long—term unemployed. the back to work plan is set to be part of next week's autumn statement. this is the biggest reform to the welfare system since the introduction of universal credit in 2012. we are spending £2.5 billion and what we're saying is two things. if you don't have a health condition but you've been out of work for a long time, we're going to do two things. first of all, if you're not engaging with the system at all, after six months we will stop your benefits. but secondly, if you've got a health condition we are going to give you all the help we possibly can to deal with it, a mental health condition, to deal with disability, to help you get back into the world of work. good for you, good for the economy. that autumn statement is on wednesday, full coverage on the bbc. coverage on the bbc. the world's second biggest food and drinks company — pepsico — is being sued by new york state for plastic pollution along the buffalo river, with claims it is contaminating the water and harming wildlife. here's david waddell. the buffalo river runs through western new york state through the city of buffalo into lake erie. now, here's a picture shared by the new york state attorney general, letitia james, showing the kind of problem the state is trying to contend with. the lawsuit claims that micro—plastics have been detected in the city of buffalo's drinking water supply which can cause, it said, a wide range of adverse health effects from reproduction dysfunction to inflammation of the intestine and neurotoxic effects. the attorney general is overseeing a survey of waste gathered at 13 sites along the river last year. of 1900 items assessed, it concluded that pepsico's single—use plastic packaging was the most significant, comprising 17% of all plastic waste. hershey's and mcdonald's were amongst the other identifiable brands. pepsi has said in a statement, "it is serious about plastic reduction and affective recycling." who should be keeping an eye on pollution and who was responsible? earlier i spoke to jayne paramor from the waste & resources action programme — or wrap for short. she is in nairobi at the un's global plastic treaty talks — i asked her whether it's the organisations that produce and profit from it or us as consumers who should be responsible for this waste. the answer to that is that we all have responsibility for it. there are a lot of elements in a complex conversation that involves users, making sure that they're placing the right materials into the system that can be recovered and recycled and put back into new products. but we as consumers and citizens have a big role to play as well to make sure we are putting up our plastic materials and packaging into the waste system and making sure that it's going to the right place to be recovered for that process. so yeah, it's a very complex discussion but we all have a very significant role to play. from a business point of view is so interesting, isn't it? notjust in pepsico's case. we talked a lot about it in the past, but fast food giants. in the past, about fast food giants. where does their responsibility end? quite clearly they want to keep costs down to consumers and we know that plastic and other materials derived from plastic are cheap and therefore they can keep prices down for consumers. the problem and the real cost is paid for by the environment, when that waste pollutes. so, therefore, they're not looking at the cost over the lifetime of that product. they're literally looking at the cost as it leaves their front door, and that is the question. should they be taking account of the longer term implications of what they produce? absolutely and i think that's part of the discussion we are seeing here in nairobi at the moment. the world has really woken up to the fact that we... need to be better at managing our resources and that... that responsibility as a big part of that process. the uk is... in that process at the moment, with the responsibility legislation that is coming in which is exactly that, to get manufacturers and producers to pay for the cost of cleaning up the waste that is produced by their products. yeah and who would police it? we looking at new york, they say that they want to fine pepsico for this pollution but it comes down to policing, doesn't it? how do you identify some of this stuff and work out who created in the first place? well, that's a big part of the schemes that are emerging. there is the responsibility to identify the materials put into their market, the cost of recovering and reprocessing those items and for businesses that are not complying with those regulations, there is a big discussion going on here at the moment about how we can do exactly that, enforce that compliance and ensure that those manufacturers are meeting their obligations. it's a complex discussion but it's something that's really being dug into very deeply here at the moment in nairobi. talking about the implications of who is responsible for waste. the boss of airline emirates has told the bbc he's concerned about the potential delay of aircraft deliveries, saying it could hamper the airline's growth. at the dubai airshow, emirates placed an orderfor 90 boeing 777xjets in a deal worth $52 billion dollars. sheikh ahmed bin saeed al maktoum spoke to the bbc�*s sameer hashmi. he began by asking him about that new boeing order. we have a strategy of dubai called dubai 33. you know, and that requires a lot of muscles, a lot of infrastructure. and the aviation sector is actually part of it. so emirates grow as long as dubai is growing beside, you know, the market within the uae, the region. and that's why it gives us really the confidence to order so many aircraft. but one concern for the industry has been delays in terms of deliveries and meeting the timelines. that has been a challenge for both boeing and airbus. is that a concern that if there's a delay in delivery, it could disrupt your expansion plans? yes, it's a concern for us. i mean, when you think about ourfirst order of 7779, which we signed almost ten years back, we didn't receive yet one aircraft. it is a concern, but i hope, you know, i mean, of course, covid maybe played also a major role in supply chain and so on. but i think we must really see that the manufacturers really keep up to the world and deliver at that time. and i think now we have the 350 will be delivered next year, august and december, and then a year, a year and a half later, we should be seeing our first 777x. the delivery of the new planes for emirates. the delivery of the new planes for emirates. in other news... workers at more than 200 starbucks stores in the us have begun strike action — on red cup day — one of the busiest days of the coffee chains year. workers are striking over pay and conditions. train drivers in the uk are set to stage a fresh round of strikes in their long—running dispute over pay. the aslef union has announced a "rolling programme" of walk—outs in early december, with different train companies affected on each day. little progress has been made in the 18—month long row, with union bosses rejecting a pay offer back in spring. those are your top business stories. you're watching bbc news. cyber technology has become embedded in our daly lives. our phones, our cars, how our data is processed. it is constantly evolving but bring security risks as well. the north—west is now at the heart of the cyber economy, and at this careers event, schoolchildren have been practising the skills needed to develop cyber technology and take on the threats it poses. it develop cyber technology and take on the threats it poses.— the threats it poses. it was a lot offun, the threats it poses. it was a lot of fun. but _ the threats it poses. it was a lot of fun, but the _ the threats it poses. it was a lot of fun, but the skills _ the threats it poses. it was a lot of fun, but the skills we - the threats it poses. it was a lot of fun, but the skills we need i the threats it poses. it was a lot of fun, but the skills we need is | the threats it poses. it was a lot i of fun, but the skills we need is to persevere and communicate. you think somethin: persevere and communicate. you think something like — persevere and communicate. you think something like this _ persevere and communicate. you think something like this would _ persevere and communicate. you think something like this would be _ persevere and communicate. you think something like this would be good - persevere and communicate. you think something like this would be good as l something like this would be good as a job later on?— something like this would be good as ajob later on? yes. the something like this would be good as a job later on? yes. the north—west ajob later on? yes. the north-west is becoming — ajob later on? yes. the north-west is becoming a _ a job later on? yes the north—west is becoming a cyber corridor, stretching from manchester through to preston and onto lancaster. manchester has the government's intelligence agency hub, while preston has businesses like bae systems and will have the national cyber force, protecting the country from cyber attacks. you're live with bbc news. here in the uk, home secretary james cleverly has defended emergency laws to revive plans to fly asylum seekers to rwanda, as a former supreme court justice said the measures would be extraordinary. mr cleverly disagreed with the criticism and said a new treaty with rwanda would allow flights to depart. in their ruling on wednesday, the supreme courtjustices said there were "substantial grounds" to believe the rwandan government could deport people sent to the country to places where they would be unsafe. let's cross live to madeleine sumption, she is the director of the migration 0bservatory, at the university of oxford thank you for being with us. what did you make of the court ruling and the home secretary's decision to say that we can go ahead with this anyway and we are going to come up with a new treaty with rwanda to make it happen?— with a new treaty with rwanda to make it happen? obviously will have to see the details _ make it happen? obviously will have to see the details of _ make it happen? obviously will have to see the details of what _ make it happen? obviously will have to see the details of what the - to see the details of what the government is proposing. 0ne to see the details of what the government is proposing. one thing i think that was really interesting about the supreme courtjudgment was that it was quite comprehensive in crushing the idea that they thought rwanda could be a safe place for asylum seekers to be sent to in the foreseeable future. 0versee the emergency legislation... upgrading to a treaty doesn't make a huge amount of difference. emergency legislation can change the law in the uk about whatjudges are allowed to say. it can't obviously change the fact on the ground about whether ruan is safe or not. i think in the long run it will be interesting to see how this plays out. i think it may well be the case that, if the government wants to pursue a policy of removing asylum seekers to other countries, it may need to look for another country. the countries, it may need to look for another country.— countries, it may need to look for another country. the rwandan 'ustice ministry spokesperson * another country. the rwandan 'ustice ministry spokesperson has _ another country. the rwandan justice ministry spokesperson has said - another country. the rwandan justice ministry spokesperson has said to - ministry spokesperson has said to the bbc that they are actually quite offended by this ruling, saying they host 130,000 refugees, they have been commended by international organisations, including the un, for their treatment of these refugees and guarantee their safety. what is your assessment about how safe or otherwise rwanda is as a country to send asylum seekers to?— send asylum seekers to? reminder does host a — send asylum seekers to? reminder does host a lot _ send asylum seekers to? reminder does host a lot of _ send asylum seekers to? reminder does host a lot of refugees. - send asylum seekers to? reminder does host a lot of refugees. they . does host a lot of refugees. they mostly have not gone through the former rwandan asylum system, which is still quite small. the supreme court reviewed the evidence in the court reviewed the evidence in the court of appeal, they reviewed quite a lot of evidence, and their opinion was that rwanda was not safe enough, particularly because of this risk, the risk that people might be sent on from rwanda to other countries, where they could be in danger, and there was a concern that, in the past, rwanda hasn't always complied with agreements that it had signed up with agreements that it had signed up to. those had been the main criticisms. up to. those had been the main criticisms-— up to. those had been the main criticisms. ., ., _ ., criticisms. israel had a policy, an agreement— criticisms. israel had a policy, an agreement with _ criticisms. israel had a policy, an agreement with rwanda - criticisms. israel had a policy, an agreement with rwanda a - criticisms. israel had a policy, an agreement with rwanda a few. criticisms. israel had a policy, an i agreement with rwanda a few years ago, didn't they, voluntary though different to what the uk are suggesting. just explain what they did and how that worked, because there have been people saying it wasn't a good plan.— there have been people saying it wasn't a good plan. israel did have an agreement _ wasn't a good plan. israel did have an agreement with _ wasn't a good plan. israel did have an agreement with rwanda - wasn't a good plan. israel did have an agreement with rwanda and - wasn't a good plan. israel did have| an agreement with rwanda and this was actually one of the pieces of evidence that the supreme court cited, evidence of their concerns about rwanda, because there were specific cases where people then had, the rwandan government had complied and people ended up finding themselves expelled or in unsafe situations as a result. there is a broader context of this and around the world a lot of countries are trying to find ways to reduce the number of asylum seekers that they take responsibility for. one of the challenges they face is that it is very difficult to find mechanisms, sending people to other countries, in a way that also complies with the legal obligations. it is not impossible but it is something a lot of countries have found challenging. have there been any positive examples of that, where it has worked and complied with international law?- worked and complied with international law? ., , , international law? there are plenty of cases where _ international law? there are plenty of cases where different _ international law? there are plenty of cases where different countries l of cases where different countries have shared responsibility for asylum seekers. you see resettlement programmes, for example, may somebody applies for asylum in one country and then often a country in the region, and then with the assistance of the united nations, or often through bespoke programmes, those people then get resettled to other countries that have said they are willing to take refugees. in many cases we are talking about people being resettled to countries like canada or the united states, that for obvious reasons just have a more developed justice system that find it easier to handle those kinds. . ~ find it easier to handle those kinds. ., ~' , ., find it easier to handle those kinds. ., ,, , ., ., find it easier to handle those kinds. ., ,, ., , , kinds. thank you for being with us and our kinds. thank you for being with us and your analysis. _ pedro sanchez has won a parliamentary vote giving him a second term as spain's prime minister. the country is divided, though, over his decision to grant catalan separatists an amnesty in return for their support. his socialist party came second injuly�*s inconclusive election, but mr sanchez reached deals with smaller