israel has said it has recovered the body of a hostage near gaza's biggest hospital. scotland's health secretary admits that an £11,000 data roaming charge on his ipad caused by his son sons watching football. there has been much scrutiny on the action of israeli forces at the biggest hospital in gaza. it has been met by claim and counterclaim. what do we know for sure? israel describes the al sheba hospital as the main headquarters for her mass —— hamas terrorist activity. this claims to represent the tunnel system underneath the hospital. israel is yet to produce evidence of the channels. it has allowed the bbc and fox news to form at the hospital the only at locations of their choice. israel released its own seven minute video that bbc verify has analysed. what's visible would indicate that the video was shot a few hours before the bbc arrived. i video was shot a few hours before the bbc arrived.— video was shot a few hours before the bbc arrived. i don't know when the bbc arrived. 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machine. ~ u, ,., machine. we can get some light here. you can see — machine. we can get some light here. you can see military _ machine. we can get some light here. you can see military equipment. - machine. we can get some light here. you can see military equipment. the | you can see military equipment. the bbc was shown the same room and will be seeing the tube videos doesn't precisely match. for example, there is one gun in the idf video, two by the time of the bbc footage. israel has told bbc verify that more weaponry and terrorist assets were discovered throughout the day. israel also sets this video is a single shot with no edits. but this appears to be an edits. we don't know the reasons for that edit, nor how significant it is. the idf says suggestions it is manipulating the media is incorrect. it also shows military equipment and other locations that we can't verify how it came to be there. what we see in this idf video does not equate to the hospital being an operational command centre for idf. the usa al—shifra was being used as a command and control node. as israel makes the case with this operation let's consider at the geneva conventions, the foundations of the rules of law. they state that hospitals can lose their protection if they are used to commit acts harmful to the enemy. israel believes hamas has done this in al—shifra and says that what has been discovered so far is just the start. been discovered so far is 'ust the start. ~ ., ., ., 4' start. what we have found i think it's only the _ start. what we have found i think it's only the tip — start. what we have found i think it's only the tip of _ start. what we have found i think it's only the tip of the _ start. what we have found i think it's only the tip of the iceberg. i it's only the tip of the iceberg. israel is adamant that this hospital was a command centre, but for now, at least, it is either not found supporting evidence or it is not sharing it. let's focus now on the us stance on the israel—hamas war. president biden expressed "unwavering support" for israel, following the 7th october hamas attacks which killed 1,200 people in southern israel. he says the us has discussed with the israelis the need to be incredibly careful in going after targets in hospitals. but he added that hamas is committing war crimes by locating its military headquarters under al—shifa. 0ne one thing has been established that hamas does have headquarters, weapons below this hospital. and i suspect others. for more on us—israel relations i'm joined by gina abercrombie, president of middle east policy council. she has also held senior positions at the state department and the white house and has worked alongside antony blinken and joe biden. very good to have you with us here. when you access to us�*s role in this ongoing conflict, how do you think the president has handled things so far. i the president has handled things so far. ~ , , the president has handled things so far. ~' , , ., , far. i think the president has handled generally _ far. i think the president has handled generally speaking l far. i think the president has| handled generally speaking in far. i think the president has i handled generally speaking in a far. i think the president has - handled generally speaking in a very solid way. he of course had to say from the beginning that the united states stands with the government and people of israel. i think the entire world date in the immediate aftermath of that heinous attack. certainly the president has calibrated his comments since then as we have seen the israeli response to that attack. as that has gone on, we know that the precedent has deployed diplomats, the secretary of state has made several trips to the region, and as we have seen we are continuing our efforts in giving humanitarian assistance into the gaza strip and giving our own and otherforeign gaza strip and giving our own and other foreign citizens out of the gaza strip. let other foreign citizens out of the gaza strip-— other foreign citizens out of the gaza stri. ., ., gaza strip. let me ask you about this, given _ gaza strip. let me ask you about this, given that _ gaza strip. let me ask you about this, given that you _ gaza strip. let me ask you about this, given that you have - gaza strip. let me ask you about this, given that you have worked| gaza strip. let me ask you about l this, given that you have worked in the us state department. we've seen a number of reports that dozens of state department employees have signed internal memos to anthony blinking expressing serious disagreement with the biden administration's approach to the military campaign in gaza? if these reports are to be believed, that would show that there is a bit of a conflict within the state department about the way that this is being handled. ~ ,,., , about the way that this is being handled. ~ , ,., , ., handled. absolutely. i mean, the department _ handled. absolutely. i mean, the department of — handled. absolutely. i mean, the department of state, _ handled. absolutely. i mean, the department of state, if _ handled. absolutely. i mean, the department of state, if we - handled. absolutely. i mean, the department of state, if we are i handled. absolutely. i mean, the i department of state, if we are doing everything as we should be, should represent all of the american people and if there is disquiet with our current policy of saying that they should not be a ceasefire, everyone is watching and can see the mounting deaths of civilians in the gaza strip. it is of great concern. diplomats want to conduct diplomacy and so i believe we all understand in the end that there is not a military solution to the conflict that has gone on between the israelis and palestinians. this is an expression of dissent and disagreement within the department, it has happened before. during the vietnam war there was a great deal of dissent at us policy and it continues to be used. in my career in that the department of state are used on multiple occasions. this is spilled out into the public but it is an accurate reflection of people who are concerned, who are recommending different solutions, different options on how to conduct the policy. different options on how to conduct the oli ., . a . ., , different options on how to conduct the oli . ., m , ., ~' the policy. jean abercrombie, thank ou ve the policy. jean abercrombie, thank you very much _ the policy. jean abercrombie, thank you very much for — the policy. jean abercrombie, thank you very much for sharing _ the policy. jean abercrombie, thank you very much for sharing your i you very much for sharing your perspective on this story. david cameron has met ukraine's president volodymyr zelensky in cave. it was his first trip as foreign secretary. he said he wanted ukraine to be as first destination in the newjob. he also went to the black sea port of 0desa where he promised that the uk would increase humanitarian support and medical supplies for ukrainians and he announced an insurance facility to help chefs leave 0desa. that had been disrupted after a collapse of a deal with russia. ukrainian forces have succeeded in establishing positions across the toni poole river in southern ukraine, potentially a significant advance. during his visit, lord cameron expressed the importance he places on ukraine. i expressed the importance he places on ukraine. . ., , on ukraine. i am delighted that my first visit as — on ukraine. i am delighted that my first visit as foreign _ on ukraine. i am delighted that my first visit as foreign secretary i on ukraine. i am delighted that my first visit as foreign secretary is i first visit as foreign secretary is here in ukraine and my message is very clear, that we will continue to give you the moral, the economic, the political and diplomatic support and of course the military support in yourfight against and of course the military support in your fight against this unjustified and unjustifiable russian aggression. i'm also pleased to be standing on the shore of the black sea where the ukrainian navy has had immense success in beating back the russian navy and take in far greater control of this vital maritime corridor. it is something to recognise, the bravery and the brilliance of the ukrainian navy, assisted in many ways by others. in a world first, a new gene editing treatment has been approved in the uk for two inherited blood disorders. sickle cell disease and beta thalassemia affect thousands of people in the uk causing severe pain or requiring regular blood transfusions. doctors say it may sound like the stuff of science fiction but the new treatment will be revolutionary for some patients. 0ur medical editor, fergus walsh, has more. patients with this disease have misshapen blood cells. 16,000 people in the uk are affected, whose family origins are from these diverse regions. tino has sickle cell and has endured regular painful attacks all her life. ~ ., all her life. when i am bad, in crisis, i cannot _ all her life. when i am bad, in crisis, i cannot do _ all her life. when i am bad, in crisis, i cannot do anything. . all her life. when i am bad, in i crisis, i cannot do anything. this is not _ crisis, i cannot do anything. this is not even — crisis, i cannot do anything. this is not even being in the hospital, this is— is not even being in the hospital, this is still— is not even being in the hospital, this is still being at home. i can -et this is still being at home. i can get into— this is still being at home. i can get into the taxi, the ambulance, i can't _ get into the taxi, the ambulance, i can't walk— get into the taxi, the ambulance, i can't walk any more. i'm really purely — can't walk any more. i'm really urel . ,, ., can't walk any more. i'm really urel. ,, ., , ., can't walk any more. i'm really urel. . ., , ., purely. struggling to breathe. both conditions are _ purely. struggling to breathe. both conditions are caused _ purely. struggling to breathe. both conditions are caused by _ purely. struggling to breathe. both conditions are caused by an - conditions are caused by an inherited faulty gene for haemoglobin. the treatment to correct it is extraordinary. in the lab, the patients because my own bone marrow stem cells are edited using a technique, it is like a pair of molecular scissors would precisely captures the faulty dna. as a result, patients produce healthy blood cells. their disease is stopped. healthy blood cells. their disease is sto ed. , , healthy blood cells. their disease isstoued. , , healthy blood cells. their disease is sto ed, , , ., is stopped. this is the machine that we used to collect _ is stopped. this is the machine that we used to collect the _ is stopped. this is the machine that we used to collect the stem - is stopped. this is the machine that we used to collect the stem cells. l we used to collect the stem cells. imperial— we used to collect the stem cells. imperial college healthcare in imperial college healthca re in london imperial college healthcare in london is leading —— clinical trials of the new treatment here. they are thrilled that has been licensed. this is the kind of technology that you read — this is the kind of technology that you read in— this is the kind of technology that you read in science _ this is the kind of technology that you read in science fiction- this is the kind of technology that you read in science fiction books. you read in science fiction books and you — you read in science fiction books and you never— you read in science fiction books and you never thought - you read in science fiction books and you never thought it- you read in science fiction books and you never thought it would. you read in science fiction books. and you never thought it would be reaiity— and you never thought it would be reality and — and you never thought it would be reality and here _ and you never thought 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professional life being able to be i part of the story and now to be able to deliver— part of the story and now to be able to deliver it — part of the story and now to be able to deliver it to _ part of the story and now to be able to deliver it to patients. _ part of the story and now to be able to deliver it to patients. in - to deliver it to patients. in trials, to deliver it to patients. trials, 28 out of 29 sickle to deliver it to patients.“ trials, 28 out of 29 sickle cell patients were free of severe pain crisis and 39 out of 42 beta thalassemia patients no longer needed blood transfusions. the evidence is only for one year but it is hoped it could be a permanent fix, a cure. the drug will only be used by the nhs if it is considered cost—effective. that may well be a major issue. no price has been set but it is likely to be over £1 million per patient. fergus walsh there. we can now speak to a senior community engagement 0fficer we can now speak to a senior community engagement officer at nhs blood and transplant. thank you very much forjoining us here. you must be delighted at this news of the breakthrough. i be delighted at this news of the breakthrough.— be delighted at this news of the breakthrough. be delighted at this news of the breakthrou:h. . ., ~ , ., breakthrough. i am indeed, thank you for havin: breakthrough. i am indeed, thank you for having me- — breakthrough. i am indeed, thank you for having me. the _ breakthrough. i am indeed, thank you for having me. the new _ breakthrough. i am indeed, thank you for having me. the new treatment i for having me. the new treatment will most definitely be a huge breakthrough for people like myself, and especially for the younger patients who like myself have had a lot of issues, spent a lot of time in and out of hospital. i receive regular exchanges and transfusions and that requires between 128 and $130 a year to keep me alive, receiving four units of blood every four weeks. this new treatment is definitely a breakthrough and will allow patients to lead a more normal life and to live a healthier and longer life. life and to live a healthier and longer life-— life and to live a healthier and loner life. ., ,, ., , ., longer life. thank you for sharing our ve longer life. thank you for sharing your very personal— longer life. thank you for sharing your very personal story. - longer life. thank you for sharing your very personal story. it i longer life. thank you for sharing | your very personal story. it sounds like it is a tricky condition to manage. 0ne like it is a tricky condition to manage. one of the things fergus was saying there is how expensive this treatment would be.— saying there is how expensive this treatment would be. yes, that is a cost, but treatment would be. yes, that is a cost. but the _ treatment would be. yes, that is a cost, but the benefit _ treatment would be. yes, that is a cost, but the benefit outweighs i treatment would be. yes, that is a | cost, but the benefit outweighs any cost, but the benefit outweighs any cost i believe because the cost of having patients constantly in and out of hospital and having to have lots of different treatments, like myself over the years i have been completely blind, paralysed, received blood on a regular basis, i take a lot of medication to control the effects of having sickle cell, notjust pain. so any treatment that notjust pain. so any treatment that not only cuts that cost but effectively stops the cost, because if you have healthier people living normal lives able to work and be more productive, the initial cost of the treatment i think is balanced out by the reward you get and what they can then go back to society. [30 they can then go back to society. do ou they can then go back to society. do you know much about how the trials have been working so far, have you beenin have been working so far, have you been in touch with any people on the trials? hat been in touch with any people on the trials? ., ., , ., ., , trials? not with anyone on them, but some of the — trials? not with anyone on them, but some of the trials _ trials? not with anyone on them, but some of the trials are _ trials? not with anyone on them, but some of the trials are taking - trials? not with anyone on them, but some of the trials are taking place i some of the trials are taking place at a hospital i visit in london. 0ne at a hospital i visit in london. one of my physicians as part of the trial team. of my physicians as part of the trialteam. it of my physicians as part of the trial team. it was explained to me that you will be your own host, so whereas now you need a perfect match donor to have a bone marrow transplant and there is a lot more risk in that, and many of us don't have siblings, like myself, i would be suitable. with this you are your own host so your bone stem cells are harvested from your own blood, then put into a cell se