democratic exercise. elections in a country of 1.4 billion people done and dusted. and here is everything you need to know about the results. the bjp one the most number of seats, 240, but it is still not the victory that narendra modi was hoping. he has 63 let's seats than what the bjp one in the last election in less than 272 thatis last election in less than 272 that is needed to have a majority. it means he is not the final word on politics or policy. he will have to rely on unpredictable rely alliance parties and establish a consensus. other things didn't go as anticipated. the state which was supposed to stand by the bjp didn't. 80 lawmakers come from uttar pradesh and thatis come from uttar pradesh and that is where they suffered the most losses. from 62 it is down to 33. the bjp alliance may be forming the government but the growth of the opposition was the real surprise. over two dozen parties came together to take on the bjp and that is clearly worked. the opposition congress emerging as the single largest party, increasing their seats from 52 to 99. notjust raising their numbers but also expectations that they must now live up to. i want to pick up on some of that. you have just one your fourth consecutive run the member of parliament from the member of parliament from the southern state of kerala. what do you think your party did so well nationally? lats what do you think your party did so well nationally? lots of factors. did so well nationally? lots of factors- i _ did so well nationally? lots of factors. i think— did so well nationally? lots of factors. i think people - did so well nationally? lots of factors. i think people are - factors. i think people are trying getting a bit tired of the ten years. there was an awful lot of arrogance. people do not like being taken for granted. we also have a style of government that india has not been accustomed to where the prime minister would take decisions without consulting with anybody, do monetisation, finance minister completely in the dark, stringent lockdown during covid, a few hours notice. even the chief minister couldn't implement it. everyone finds out from the television. that kind of thing has to end and what has happened now is the voters have ensured that mr modi has to have partners in his government where we will have to consult decisions like this in future.— this in future. the big question _ this in future. the big question of _ this in future. the big question of course . this in future. the big question of course is| this in future. the big - question of course is what is the opposition going to do? are you going to try and form a government?— you going to try and form a government? right now the numbers with _ government? right now the numbers with the _ government? right now the numbers with the bjp, - government? right now the numbers with the bjp, not l government? right now the i numbers with the bjp, not only because the bjp allowed to because the bjp allowed to because they have a pre— poll alliance, all of whom have stuck together with them and that pushes them well over the majority mark. i think the president will understandably be justified in allowing them to form government. the question we will have to be attentive to his number one, very robust in parliament, we will have to stand up the values that voters represent. equally we have to look at what is happening inside the bjp and the government because it is entirely possible that this motley crew of allies may not stick together and that the government does form we have to offer an alternative.— offer an alternative. quickly, what kind — offer an alternative. quickly, what kind of— offer an alternative. quickly, what kind of opposition - offer an alternative. quickly, what kind of opposition will i what kind of opposition will congress look like? we what kind of opposition will congress look like? we have to be constructive _ congress look like? we have to be constructive and _ congress look like? we have to be constructive and a _ congress look like? we have to be constructive and a firm - be constructive and a firm opposition. we can't form to be take taken for granted when we were 52 in the last parliament. we are now 100 and make sure our voices are heard and our allies, 234 in the india alliance and that is a substantial number in the parliament stop they really will want to consult. it is to be said of congress party parliament, that they spend more time in the opposition businesses, but the bjp submissions down their side. those days are over and they have to realise it.— have to realise it. such a pleasure _ have to realise it. such a pleasure to _ have to realise it. such a pleasure to have - have to realise it. such a pleasure to have you - have to realise it. such a l pleasure to have you here. thank you forjoining us. these elections were very much also about the prime minister. really this loss is notjust about seats but it is really about seats but it is really about narendra modi who lost face. a record third term in power. a victory or ride but not the verdict narendra modi was hoping. with no majority, the result, a personal blow to the result, a personal blow to the man with a record of scoring absolute majority in elections. both those chief minister of gujarat and then prime minister. for ten years narendra modi dominated indian politics. the bjp repeatedly fighting elections on his name, a brand that party showcases. he is plastered across hoardings over india. welfare schemes are named after him to connect him the motor and show him as the man who delivered them. and he did deliver big infrastructure projects, cash benefits and housing to the pooh benefits and housing to the poor. schemes further trumpeted by largely subservient indian national media, helping build up national media, helping build up brand narendra modi. to his hindu nationalist abode base narendra modi delivered on key manifesto converses. whether it was revoking the autonomy of indian administered kashmir or implementing a controversial citizenship law. ayodhya was a policy can got an early, dedicating a temple in the city at the same spot where a 16th century mosque wants stood. but it has failed to resonate. bjp even losing the seat where the temple was built. despite a campaign that turned to divisive policy, it seems to have mattered more rings like unemployment and rising prices, not religion. issues the opposition india alliance managed to capitalise on and they are now back to occupying a larger space in the indian parliament. i want to pick up on some of the things that was said in that piece right now. you are a spokesperson with the bjp. what do you think went wrong with mr modi's campaign. this is an historic win for our government and this is the third time around that narendra modi has one. it is absolutely historic. they are the biggest alliance and the party and after years, they have had a party come back to power. is party come back to power. is the first time he's ever going to deal with a minority. he has always won the majority. why did he lose his majority? i think we have always been in this alliance. this is a pre— poll alliance and they have reiterated our support. we all believe in a transformation for india and working towards a developed india, a developed nation, and we stand steadfast to get on that. i don't think there would be any problems. it's a smooth transition, the largest single party, it's a historic win and india will continue to grow in this trajectory we are on and it is going extremely well. we other largest economy, we want to be the third. it is not very good news for bbc but it's good news for india. ~ . for india. prime minister narendra _ for india. prime minister narendra modi - for india. prime minister narendra modi has - for india. prime minister| narendra modi has never for india. prime minister - narendra modi has never had to deal with the coalition government. how will you have to take changes leadership style? i to take changes leadership s le? ~' . ., style? i think he will continue with his leadership _ style? i think he will continue with his leadership and - style? i think he will continue with his leadership and skills. but he has not played nice. he has but he has not played nice. he: has always played nice. on his own? that is bbc. [30 own? that is bbc. do monetisation - own? that is bbc. do monetisation with - own? that is bbc. do monetisation with no consultation?- monetisation with no consultation? �* , consultation? but this has worked well _ consultation? but this has worked well for _ consultation? but this has worked well for our - consultation? but this has - worked well for our economy? why is india doing so well? do you wonder why india is the fifth largest economy? and low unemployment? but you also have to wonder why the 215 million extremely poor people being lifted out of poverty, the fact that 800 million people are being bad. we could debated. crosstalk). but being bad. we could debated. crosstalk) -_ crosstalk). but is there. crosstalk). _ crosstalk). but is there. crosstalk). it's - crosstalk). but is there. crosstalk). it's a - crosstalk). but is there. i crosstalk). it's a legitimate question. crosstalk). it's a legitimate cuestion. ,, ,, : crosstalk). it's a legitimate cuestion. ,, ,, ~ ., crosstalk). it's a legitimate cuestion. ,,,, ~ ., question. crosstalk). india has done so well _ question. crosstalk). india has done so well in _ question. crosstalk). india has done so well in terms _ question. crosstalk). india has done so well in terms of - question. crosstalk). india has done so well in terms of where i done so well in terms of where it stands internationally, where it stands in terms of his domestic policy, how he has dealt with minorities, particularly muslims. how the dropout rate for muslim girls has come down, our housing scheme. has come down, our housing scheme-— has come down, our housing scheme. ,, ,, ~ ., ~ , ., scheme. crosstalk). thank you very much _ scheme. crosstalk). thank you very much for— scheme. crosstalk). thank you very much for your _ scheme. crosstalk). thank you very much for your time, - scheme. crosstalk). thank you very much for your time, i - very much for your time, i really appreciate that. arunoday, back to you. given the lack of majority reliance on other parties who have diverging views it may not be as smooth as it was before the bjp so here is more on the challenges ahead narendra modi government. india's graduates fresh from college are struggling to find jobs. in 2022 unemployment among educated youth doubled from 35% to 65%. inequality has widened to 65%. inequality has widened to a 100 year high. as the development marketed by the government been development for all? if india still wants to become the third largest economy by 2027, robust policies have to be in place in a coalition government with different priorities, consensus is hard. a big challenge for a politician like narendra modi was always had an absolute majority and never head of a coalition government is having to rely on alliance part. but it's a matter of political survival and staying in power. that is really the question to answer. looking ahead. welcome to the programme. my guests are here to discuss some of these challenges. i would like to begin with you first. how different do you think this government is going to be? is it going to have to toned out a lot of the rhetoric or the attitude that we have seen? i attitude that we have seen? 1 must put on record that i attitude that we have seen? i must put on record that i am also part of the civil society coalition which was meant to be opposed to the government and witches for democracy. to answer your question, the defence on whether they learn any lessons, to my mind this is being notjust a setback, this is actually been a moral political defeat to the bjp. ever the prime minister, is it because his personal baggage, is party validation creation is much less, because thank you, it's a david versus goliath kind of battle where david has managed to get the most realise. i doubt if they will do that. mr modi is not used to coalition and may i say he is not used to democracy. this is the first time _ not used to democracy. this is the first time he _ not used to democracy. this is the first time he is _ not used to democracy. this is the first time he is going - not used to democracy. this is the first time he is going to i the first time he is going to be heading a coalition government of the consensus will be there. professor i want to understand from you, a lot of distress in the economy. some good things but a lot of problems like unemployment. do you think now with the consensus, policy paralysis of actual policy is a real problem possibility?— possibility? that is my dear in the sector- — possibility? that is my dear in the sector. in _ possibility? that is my dear in the sector. in my _ possibility? that is my dear in the sector. in my sector, - possibility? that is my dear in the sector. in my sector, you | the sector. in my sector, you see the stock _ the sector. in my sector, you see the stock market, - the sector. in my sector, you see the stock market, you i the sector. in my sector, you | see the stock market, you see things— see the stock market, you see things like electricity, but the organise sector consisting of agriculture and others, they are the — of agriculture and others, they are the ones that bear the brunt— are the ones that bear the brunt of— are the ones that bear the brunt of the message that they have _ brunt of the message that they have declined after democratisation, gst and other crisis. _ democratisation, gst and other crisis, sudden lockdowns, so for big— crisis, sudden lockdowns, so for big shots and they employ 90%— for big shots and they employ 90% of— for big shots and they employ 90% of the population and the government does not take the data _ government does not take the data from that sector because that data _ data from that sector because that data comes once in five year— that data comes once in five year and _ that data comes once in five year and has not been corrected, so gdp is overestimated. income is much less but— overestimated. income is much less but that is not shown in the figures, so in some sense, invisible — the figures, so in some sense, invisible icing data on policy, that— invisible icing data on policy, that needs to change.- invisible icing data on policy, that needs to change. sorry to cut ou that needs to change. sorry to cut you off _ that needs to change. sorry to cut you off with _ that needs to change. sorry to cut you off with some - that needs to change. sorry to cut you off with some of - that needs to change. sorry to cut you off with some of this l cut you off with some of this distress is also voiced by a lot of students who had spoken to earlier who understand what they feel about the issues that went to these elections. spoke to them. i went to these elections. spoke to them. . . , went to these elections. spoke to them. :, ., , ., , _ went to these elections. spoke to them. ., ., , ., , _ ., to them. i am really happy that this has happened _ to them. i am really happy that this has happened to _ to them. i am really happy that this has happened to the - this has happened to the government and under the leadership of modi we have seen the government bent and i come from gujarat knives in the development.— from gujarat knives in the development. from gujarat knives in the develoment. ., development. what about you? i am very happy- _ development. what about you? i am very happy- a _ development. what about you? i am very happy. a board - development. what about you? i am very happy. a board the - am very happy. a board the election— am very happy. a board the election the ruling party was very— election the ruling party was very much arrogant. the body language, everything was very different, and after the results _ different, and after the results came by the election results — results came by the election results were coming out, it was true _ results were coming out, it was true that— results were coming out, it was true that the people of india voted — true that the people of india voted for a change.- true that the people of india voted for a change. what are the most _ voted for a change. what are the most important - voted for a change. what are the most important issues i voted for a change. what are l the most important issues that you think need to be addressed right now? i you think need to be addressed right now?— right now? i would say the wound created _ right now? i would say the wound created by - right now? i would say the wound created by the - right now? i would say the l wound created by the prime minister himself in the election rallies and all against the minority communities. in the whole election rallies and the bjp�*s ideology is also embedded in this polarisation. it must be healed, these kind of wounds, because for the future impact of the country, the coexistence and the relationship between its by india should remain. these results have proved that people — these results have proved that people in— these results have proved that people in the _ these results have proved that people in the process, - these results have proved thatl people in the process, speaking from _ people in the process, speaking from a — people in the process, speaking from a perspective _ people in the process, speaking from a perspective of— people in the process, speaking from a perspective of minority. from a perspective of minority citizen. — from a perspective of minority citizen. the _ from a perspective of minority citizen, the kind _ from a perspective of minority citizen, the kind of— from a perspective of minorityl citizen, the kind of atmosphere before — citizen, the kind of atmosphere before the _ citizen, the kind of atmosphere before the elections, _ before the elections, especially— before the elections, especially after- before the elections, i especially after 2019,, before the elections, - especially after 2019,, focused on the — especially after 2019,, focused on the four— especially after 2019,, focused on the four lanes _ especially after 2019,, focused on the four lanes which - especially after 2019,, focused on the four lanes which would i on the four lanes which would not he — on the four lanes which would not be focused _ on the four lanes which would not be focused in _ on the four lanes which would not be focused in that - on the four lanes which would not be focused in that sense. | on the four lanes which would | not be focused in that sense. i not be focused in that sense. don't see any kind of division between communities or caste. there are many schemes where we don't have any kind of division.— don't have any kind of division. , ., ., division. do you agree with that? i division. do you agree with that? l totally _ division. do you agree with that? i totally disagree - that? i totally disagree because _ that? i totally disagree because the _ that? i totally disagree because the kind - that? i totally disagree because the kind of- that? i totally disagree - because the kind of division that— because the kind of division that the _ because the kind of division that the narendra _ because the kind of division that the narendra modi - that the narendra modi government— that the narendra modi government has- that the narendra modi l government has created, that the narendra modi - government has created, the entire — government has created, the entire world _ government has created, the entire world knows _ government has created, the entire world knows it, - government has created, the entire world knows it, and i gov