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it's moving day. and while her friends are doing the heavy lifting, jess is busy moving her xfinity internet and tv services. it only takes about a minute. wait, a minute? but what have you been doing for the last two hours? ...delegating? oh, good one. move your xfinity services without breaking a sweat. xfinity makes moving easy. go online to transfer your services in about a minute. get started today. tonight police in georgia say nothing is off the table in the investigation into the shootings at three atlanta-area spas that killed eight people, including six asian women. they have not yet confirmed a motive but also say they haven't ruled out filing hate crime charges against the suspect, who is already charged with eight counts of murder. and they say it appears he frequented the spas. also president biden and vice president harris traveling to atlanta tomorrow to meet with asian-american leaders who are reeling from the deadly violence that has struck their community. we're going to go live to atlanta for the very latest on the shooting investigation. we'll do that in just a moment. first i just want to talk about the congressional hearing on driscrimination against asian-americans that went off the rail today. i want to bring in john avlon and ana navarro. good evening to both of you. i appreciate you joining here. yeah, ana, my sentiments exactly. but there was some wild moments on the hill today. the gop rep chip roy brought up lynching at a hearing focused on violence against asian-americans. watch this. >> we believe in justice, all right? there's old sayings in texas about, you know, find all the rope in texas and get a tall oak tree. you know, we take justice very seriously, and we ought to do that. round up the bad guys. that's what we believe. my concern about this hearing is that it seems to want to venture into the policing of rhetoric in a free society, free speech, and away from the rule of law and taking out bad guys. >> i'm not going to be ashamed of saying i oppose the chinese communist party, and when we say things like that and we're talking about that, we shouldn't be worried about having a committee of members of congress policing our rhetoric. >> john, what is he saying there about a rope and a tall oak tree? he's describing a lynching. that's not justice. how is that okay? >> he's talking from a perspective of total cultural myopia. he's thinking of some western because he doesn't understand apparently how when folks talk about trees and ropes, they're talking about lynching. it didn't even occur to him. but he dug an even deeper hole by going off, making it allegedly about political correctness and then attacking the chinese communist party, which has nothing to do with the purpose of the hearing at all. this is about a community that's grieving after murder and an increase in violence in the wake of covid, and he wanted to make it about the chinese community party and policing language and then used a lynching metaphor so cluelessly because that's the lack of perspective he's got where he's coming from. it's pathetic. it's embarrassing. as mike hogan, the republican governor of maryland said, it's disgusting. >> ana, you know what's next. huh, what? see? i can't say what i want. i'm going to get canceled. you can't see anything anymore. i mean really? >> right. and that's -- look, it's so offensive that it's happening at a time when all over the country, there's been an exponential spike on hate crimes against asian-americans where we have just witnessed this week the killing of the asian-americans, the targeting of asian-americans. you hear this guy, this congress member, chip roy, and first he makes no sense. the word salad coming out of his mouth, you look at him and you think to yourself, this guy has got to have failed reading comprehension on the s.a.t. there is no way that he understands that he is at a hearing about anti-asian sentiment, fighting it. can we just roll tape a minute silent on him again? don, just look at the way this guy wears his mask, please. >> i saw that earlier. >> okay. if you have -- if you need any further proof that this man is an idiot, just look at the way this man wears his mask and pray to god that's not how he wears his underwear. i mean he's just -- he is an embarrassment to congress. he's an embarrassment to texas. he's an embarrassment to the republican party, and these days that's a very, very high bar. >> john, we're also hearing from former president george w. bush. he is speaking out on the capitol insurrection. here's what he told the texas tribune. >> i was sick to my stomach to see our nation's capitol being stormed by hostile forces. and it really disturbed me to the point where i did put out a statement. and i'm still disturbed when i think about it. it -- it undermines rule of law, and, you know, the ability to express yourself in peaceful ways in a public square. this was an expression that was not peaceful. >> so what do you think about that because this is a former president who has largely stayed out of politics. >> a texas republican talking about the rule of law for real. that's the kind of rhetoric we need to hear from republicans, about clarity, about defending our democratic institutions, about compassion for communities that are under distress, and total moral clarity flowing all through it. chip roy could learn a lot from george w. bush. so could the republican party right now. >> bush was asked if he thought the election was stolen. he said no, and then he also said this. >> look, politics has always been rough, evan, and right now we're at a period of time, though, when there's a lot of anger in the system, which then causes people to worry about the future of our democracy. i think it's going to eventually work its way out of the system. history in the united states has showed these populist movements begin to fritter over time. and so i'm optimistic about democracy. >> yeah. ana, i'm curious. is he being overly optimistic or not? >> you know, if you know anything about the bush family, that's kind of their nature to be optimistic and believe in the institutions. he also said, don, if i can just read, i am appalled by the reckless behavior of some political leaders since the election and by the lack of respect shown today for our institutions, our traditions, and our law enforcement. it made me think of the interview you had yesterday with officer dunn. i have to tell you i think george w. bush was talking, yes, as a former president. this is a family who has a deep connection with the capitol and with institutions in washington for generations and generations. his grandfather served as a senator there. but i think he's also talking like an american. look, january 6th is going to be one of these days that's going to go down in history for all of us. you know, like 9/11, like the day the challenger exploded, the day john f. kennedy was shot, for those who were alive then, where you remember how you felt, where you were, how you learned about it because it was an attack on so much, on our values, on our democracy, on our institutions, on our congress, on people, on our law enforcement. i mean it's something that just, you know, should break the heart of every american and should make every american, not just former presidents, sick to their stomach. >> yeah. thank you, ana. thank you, john. i appreciate it. the fbi releasing new video clips of the capitol insurrection showing the horrible violence directed at capitol police officers. i want to bring in now representative katie porter, a california democrat. representative, thank you. appreciate you joining. so let's talk about this. i want to ask you about the fbi releasing this new video footage of officers being assaulted during the insurrection on january 6th. what do you think as you watch it? it's so violent. >> well, it was a violent attack, and i think we are not benefited from looking away from a problem. i think we have to understand that this was a direct attack on our democracy. people were physically harmed and killed because of this, and we have to take it very, very seriously, both as to understanding why it happened and to curing some of the racism and hatred that gave rise to the event. >> yeah. so representative porter, during the capitol attack, representative alexandria ocasio-cortez ran into your office to hide from the insurrectionists. let's listen. >> i go into her office, and i'm at like a 10, right? like i am at a full 10, fight or flight, thought i was going to die like ten minutes ago, then thought i was going to die again. i start, you know, ripping through katie's office like a madwoman and, you know, poor katie. i'm like opening every closet. i'm opening every nook. i'm opening, like, every cranny, looking for where i'm going to hide when they get into this office. >> so we hear that, representative, and we see the latest fbi video showing the violence. what do you think when many in the gop are trying to rewrite history, the history of what happened that day? >> no. look, it was terrifying, and a lot of the fear came from not knowing where the attackers were. we were able to see only what the television cameras showed us, which was the attackers were inside the building. we didn't know where they were inside the capitol complex. we didn't know how to get in touch with the police, and we were barricaded in our office. and that was literally the instructions from the police were to hide in your office. barricade yourself. make it dark and make it silent and wait. and that's exactly what we did. but it was really, really terrifying not knowing where they were, what they were coming for, what they were going to do, and if we had adequate security presence to protect us. and we clearly did not, and that's something we have to figure out how we're going to correct going forward. >> i have to ask you about the rise in anti-asian attacks. you spoke at a rally about the crisis this past weekend. you represent many asian-americans. what are you hearing from constituents about how to tackle this crisis? >> well, i think we have to start by recognizing our asian-pacific american community as being a vibrant part of our country. they've been here for a long time. some have been here for centuries. some are new arrivals, but these are our neighbors. these are our friends. these are our colleagues and we have to stand up for them just like we would for anyone else who was being attacked. asian-americans are not protected from the forces of racism, from the forces of hatred. they are too often victims of it, and i think we need to see more leadership calling out, condemning it, and working to find solutions. and, you know, i'm really proud of what both president biden and vice president harris have done on this front, providing both the leadership and the willingness to listen to the api community. >> speaking of, the president and the vice president are going to head to atlanta tomorrow to discuss the spa shootings. the president is also meeting with stacey abrams presumably to discuss the attack on voting rights across the country. how do democrats plan to outmaneuver republicans' efforts to both restrict voting access and block legislation from democrats? >> yeah. we definitely need to pass h.r. 1, the for the people act, which has now moved over to the senate and has the support of every democratic senator. and so that bill would go a long ways toward providing baseline federal protections against abuse of elections. so we need to pass that bill, prevent things like automatic purges of voter rolls. it will protect people's right to the ballot box. we need to do that, and we also need to be organizing on the ground. and i think that the conversations and the work that stacey abrams has done is really inspiring and uplifting to want to make sure that every american's voice can be heard in an election, that we have free and fair elections. that's what she's fighting for, and i can't think of anything more fundamentally patriotic to be engaged in but that fight. >> representative porter, thank you so much. i appreciate your time. the mayor of atlanta says it is hard to see the shooting spree that killed eight people, six of them asian women, as anything other than a hate crime. so why do police say it's too soon to say? 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>> i don't have any doubts, don. the police are being too cautious, too hesitant. they're saying they're still looking for motive. motive is right in front of their face. the hate crime statute is very plain. it allows prosecution if the crime is motivated by sex as well as race. and here he murdered eight women. there's the sex. and he selected six of them were asian women. there's the race. it's a no-brainer. they should prosecute it as a hate crime. >>vy to ask you about this because it's been ruminating since this happened and there was the first press conference. captain jay baker is no longer the spokesperson for the cherokee county sheriff's office on the spa shooting case. baker is being criticized for his description of the suspect's actions and he allegedly posted a photo to facebook last year of shirts with the message "covid-19: imported virus from chyna. you say this demotion is not enough. why is that? >> if that allegation is correct, that man has no business being a police officer. and frankly he sounds more like a defense counsel offering these motives almost sim thaympathizih the defendant saying he was at the end of his rope. it was a bad day. that's not the actions of a police officer. >> let's listen to that and then let you finish. pardon the interruption. >> he was pretty much fed up and kind of at the end of his rope, and yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did. >> go on. >> that kind of language sounds like he's offering a defense for the guy. he wants to almost engender some sympathy for his situation where obviously there can be no sympathy for a person who did that. and it really raises this question of do they treat white defendants differently? i mean it raises this whole specter even from the capitol riots of some police fist bumping members of proud boys, letting them into the capitol. and you have to wonder why is this man so empathetic towards the defendant? now, maybe those posts, if they really are his, give pretty good reason as to why. >> where do we go from here, shan, and how do we stop these anti-asian attacks on the community? >> i don't think there's one easy answer to that, don. certainly all of the awareness being given right now is so important, and we have to raise that awareness. but i think from the law enforcement prosecution side, the prosecutors have to show some courage. they have to have a backbone bringing these cases. t to have these hate crime laws on the books and not to use them, they need to bring these cases, and most importantly i think, as we talk about these issues, we must not fall for the trick of letting people be divisive, of pitting one group against the other. this is a time to come together and not to be trying to let people point fingers at each other. >> amen. thank you for your expertise and thank you for your thoughts on that. i really appreciate that. shan wu. house minority leader kevin mccarthy trying to claim that he didn't back former president trump's efforts to overturn the election, but that's not what the records show. r get a dog. you said you'd never do a lot of things. but you never knew all the things a dog could do for you. and with resolve you never have to worry about the mess. love the love, resolve the mess. hi. i'm wolfgang puck when i started my online store wolfgang puck home i knew there would be a lot of orders to fill and i wanted them to ship out fast that's why i chose shipstation shipstation helps manage orders reduce shipping costs and print out shipping labels it's my secret ingredient shipstation the number 1 choice of online sellers and wolfgang puck go to shipstation.com/wolfgang and get 2 months free - if you want a rockstar team like ours, you need grammarly business. 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