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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. welcome to requested lead." i'm jake tapper. the breaking news, a shooting at a hospital in new hampshire. state officials there say that the suspect is dead. the situation is contained, and tragically there are multiple victims. police are doing a sweep of the hospital and we'll stay on top of the story and bring you the facts as we get them. newly reported audio of donald trump just two months after the january 6th insurrection discussing what he expected if he got his wish and had been able to join the mob at the capitol that day. leading this hour anti-semitism pushed by right wing media figures with little apparent pushback in their conservative circles. vile comments spewed by some of the biggest names with major megaphones beginning with the richest man in the world. now, we've heard a lot from the jewish community since october 7th about how shocking it has been to hear so much anti-semitism from traditionally progressive places, such as liberal organizations and ivy league schools. they're not talking about criticism of the israeli government or the idf's military campaign in gaza. they're talking about praise for hamas' savage terrorist attacks on israeli and jewish citizens on october 7th. the new york branch of the democratic socialists of america called those october 7th attacks on civilians, quote, resistance." they have since apologized and then there are multiple incidents on college campuses praising those terrorist attacks. on october 8th one columbia university professor wrote an essay that uses language that sure sounds a lot like praise for hamas' attacks including for a, quote, innovative palestinian resistance which early on saturday morning launched a surprise attack on israel by air, land, and sea, almost all of the essay lauds it as a great, quote, stunning victory of the palestinian resistance over the israeli military as a, quote, historic event. now, remember, this is an attack where 1,200 israelis, americans, and others, most of them civilians, were slaughtered including babies and children and the elderly where women and girls were raped. where an estimated 240 individuals, most of them civilians, were kidnapped but this was apparently worthy of praise for innovation by an ivy league professor. when that columbia professor was asked about his comment he argued that we were taking his words out of context, that the words were meant to convey the surprise nature of the attack and that he decried the horrifying toll on all sides. uh-huh. at cornell an associate professor said, he felt exhilarated with the news. >> when is the last time hamas has shifted the balance of power. hamas has punctured the illusion of invincibility. it was exhilarating. it was exhilarating. it was energizing. >> it was exhilarating, it was energizing. that professor has since apologized. he has said he opposes anti-semitism and he has taken a leave of absence according to "cornell review" but amidst all of this from the left, there has also been quite a bit of anti-semitism exploding on the right among conservative media figures, mainstream republican officials, and elon musk, voicing some pretty nasty anti-semitic tropes about powerful jews supposedly waging a war on white people, white replacement theory, for example, this is the same deranged theory that led to the tree of life synagogue shooting in pittsburgh, the deadliest act of anti-semitic violence in the history of the united states, or the just as deranged theory of white genocide, the crazy theory that there is an organized plot to get rid of whites through intermarriage and through mass murder and, again, the deranged idea that the jews are behind it. it is insane and even worse, it's dangerous because there are fragile simple minds that believe this junk and then they take these matters into their own hands, too often violently. we asked our media reporter oliver darcy to take a look into all of this for us. >> reporter: anti-semitic rhetoric is finding a home in right wing media since the onset of the israel/hamas war. a handful of influential talk show hosts have spread tropes to their followers. one of the main charges, the notion that a spike in anti-semitism is merely jewish people getting a taste of their own medicine after supposedly supporting anti-white sentiment, a reprehensible conspiracy theories that's been denounced by the anti-defamation league. take elon musk, one of the world's richest men who supported a host of right wing conspiracy theories. musk replied to a user, publicly endorsing that notion writing this week, you have said the actual truth. it's not just limited to musk, right wing media figures tucker carlson and charlie kirk have peddled this. >> it is true some of the largest financier of anti-white causes have been jewish americans. >> reporter: kirk floated the theory prime minister netanyahu knew about the terror attack but chose to do nothing. >> i'm not willing to say -- to go so far as saying that netanyahu knew or there was intelligence here but i think some questions need to be asked, was there a stand down order? was there a stand down order? six hours? i don't believe it. >> reporter: meanwhile carlson and owens criticized harvard donors for supporting anti-white racism framing them as hypocrites. >> if the biggest donors at harvard have decided we'll shut it down now where were you the last ten years for white genocide. you were allowing this then i found myself hating those people. >> where were you as we have endured all -- >> you were paying for it, actually. >> you were paying for it. >> you were calling my children immoral for their skin color. you paid for that. so, why shouldn't i be mad at you? i don't understand. >> reporter: some conservatives have pushed back against the anti-semitic rhetoric spread. ben shapiro which employees candace owens ripped her earlier commentary as disgraceful during a recent speech. >> i find it disgraceful. i think she's been absolutely disgraceful. i think her faux sophistication has been ridiculous. >> owens appeared to suggest that shapiro opted for wealth over virtue saying you cannot serve both god and money. cnn reached out to "the daily wire" for comment and has not gotten a reply. attacks are surging across the u.s. and the world. jonathan greenblatt spoke out against the commentary coarsing through media responding to musk, he said, at a time when anti-semitism is exploding in america and surging around the world, it is indisputably dangerous to use one's influence to promote anti-semitic theories. jake, this is really ugly rhetoric. it never used to be voiced by some of the loudest people in right wing media but now it's all too common and i think we're getting numb to the fact that you have someone like tucker carlson or candace owens, people with millions of followers spreading this type of hate to their fans. >> these are all people who are influential when it comes to major republican office holders or presidential candidates, i mean, very, very powerful people, but i want to understand something. is the argument that i just heard there that because maybe there are some jewish alumni that gave money to harvard because they're just trying to be philanthropic to their alma mater that that was funding white genocide, that that was insulting white people? i don't -- to give money to a college to help fund scholarship programs or a university? is that what the argument is. >> it sounds crazy and unhinged to people who are not immersed in the right wing media universe but that's effectively the argument they've been supporting harvard as harvard has been waging this anti-white campaign on the college campus and now they're upset when they're seeing people voice anti-israeli sentiment but that they did nothing supposedly when this supposed anti-white campaign -- >> by giving alumni donations? >> yeah. >> that's just crazy. >> it is crazy, but it is common now in this right wing media space. >> we have literally seen the deadliest act against jews in this country because of that crazy white genocide, white replacement theory because people were spreading it, some insane person, robert bowers went into a synagogue and killed more jews -- >> to be frank, tucker carlson voicing or giving voice to dangerous conspiracy theories, theories that experts have said can lead to violence and he does not seem to care and i lot of other people, frankly, do not seem to care about the repercussions that their words can have. >> these are false, also, we should note. false theories, oliver, thank you. let's go to democratic congressman dan goldman who represents new york. congressman, i just want to first get your reaction to the report we just did, which started with voices on the left including at columbia university and cornell university and the democratic socialists of america, new york branch, spewing praise for hamas or what sounded like praise for hamas in many instances and then, of course, these right wing media figures pushing white replacement theory, white genocide, blaming it on jews. your prominent member of congress and are jewish. what's your reaction? >> we've known there's been a strain of anti-semitism on the right for some time. charlottesville being the prime example of that. what we have seen over the last six weeks is a latent anti-semitism bubbling over into the public sphere that's coming from the far fringe left. it's sort of the horseshoe theory that meets around anti-semitism where you have the extreme left and the extreme right, both of which for different reasons seem to hate jewish people. it is incredibly disheartening, jake, that in the aftermath of the most brutal, horrific attack, joan know sidal terrorist attack on jews in israel on october 7th, that rather than rally around the jewish community and israel, what we are seeing on college campuses and elsewhere all around the country and certainly in new york city is a rise in anti-semitism, and it is somewhat bewildering and perplexing for me and it's very deflating and disheartening to see. >> obviously there are a lot of people who don't support what the israel defense forces is doing in gaza. overnight one of your offices was vandalized -- i'm not saying this is an appropriate response but one of your offices was vandalized. spray painted your office. what can you tell us about what happened? what's your reaction to that and then, separately, i would like to know what your response would be to a rational person coming to you and saying, i really disagree with your position on the israeli response to october 7th? >> yeah, and that's a conversation that i really winter to have with my constituents in my district and, unfortunately, they're using vandalism and various attacks and harassment against me and my office. my staff showed up this morning to see that. my staff is there every day trying to serve the constituents. i signed up for public office. they did not, and it is egregious and dangerous for people to be doing this in a threatening way to public servants who are trying to help the community in every way possible. the reality is that there is -- there was that horrible terrorist attack on october 7th. hamas has shown us who it is. both by that attack and by the statements that their leaders have made afterwards that they will continue to do that over and over and over because their sole objective is to eliminate israel and kill jews. that means hamas is not a feasible partner for peace or a two-state solution, and because of that, israel has not only the right but the obligation to defeat hamas and eliminate that and that would not only be better for israel but it will be better for the palestinian people. hamas uses their own people in gaza as human shields. they put their military equipment in hospitals, in schools, in tunnels. they have siphoned off billions of dollars designed to go to the people for their own terror network, and israel has to be careful, because notwithstanding all of those war crimes that hamas is committing, it is tragic and devastating to see the loss of innocent lives, so israel has every right and obligation to go after hamas and to eliminate them within the framework of the laws of war and making sure that the civilians are protected as much as possible and get humanitarian aid, but hamas has been in control of gaza for 15 years, and they have led the palestinian people into this despair and this destitution that is so crushing to them, so the silver lining here, jake, is that hamas is eliminated, then hopefully we can rebuild gaza with a viable government interested in peace and interested in a two-state solution but hamas is not that. >> and then lastly, you sent a letter to president biden touching on something that we discussed at length on wednesday on this show, which is what ben gver -- two far right members are permitting in the west bank and in israel when it comes to the repression and even killing of palestinians and israeli arabs and i'm wondering if you could talk about that, the letter you wrote about the west bank to president biden and how that does not -- that's not going to allow a two-state solution either. >> that's right, and senator booker and i wrote the letter together, the two of us were the only members of congress who were in israel on october 7th, and we both are strongly in support of israel, its right to exist, its right to defend itself and the important need to eliminate hamas, however, hamas attacked from gaza and that's where the war is and that's where the war needs to stay. there can be no vigilante justice by civilians or settlers of the extremist nature and ben ga veer and smothik are their leaders and cannot use their own means and methods to try to take advantage of this situation to kill palestinians, to expand their settlements and that there is no room for error here. israel has to be very strategic. they have to be very targeted, and they have to be very focused on what the job at hand here, that is eliminate hamas. it is not to start a multifront war in the west bank, and ultimately the overarching objective is a two-state solution and it is essential that israel demonstrate that it will be a viable and meaningful partner to any other palestinian government that is willing to be a good faith partner as well in a two-state solution and this kind of vigilante justice in the west bank is very counterproductive to that goal. >> congressman dan goldman, thank you so much. donald trump's legal team is bracing for bad news, a possible decision that could be announced any decision and impact his 2024 presidential campaign. stay with us. in our law and justice lead, former president trump's legal team is bracing for a loss in a ballot disqualification case in colorado. a judge is expected to rule today on whether to disqualify him and keep his name off the state's presidential ballot. joining us now, cnn's kristen holmes to explain. this is certainly the longest of long shots regardless if it's an initial loss for trump. >> that's right, jake. that's why donald trump's team is optimistic in the long run. now, as you say they are bracing for a loss, so much so that they've already written out an appeal they plan to file immediately if and when the court rules against them. but they do believe this could be or will be turned over on appeal. one source saying they think it could go to the supreme court but that will eventually get overturned. now, the reason for that is there is a few. one being that they pointed these other cases, similar to in that were brought in new hampshire, minnesota, none made it to trial all dismissed before that and have an argument with the fact that the cases in georgia and washington, those election subversion cases are still ongoing. trump has not been convicted in either of those cases and he's not been charged with the crime of insurrection. now, no surprise, jake, they have accused this judge of being politically biased and asked her to recuse herself over a $100 donation she made to a liberal group that formed in the aftermath of january 6th. she refused to do so saying she did not know the group's mission and that she believed she could still rule fairly. again, they are bracing for a loss today, but in the long term, this is something they think that they will prevail on. >> all right, thanks so much. there is new reported audio of donald trump recorded two months after the january 6th insurrection. hear what he thought would happen if he did manage to get to the capitol and say something to the riters. stay with us. oters. stay with us. in order for small businesses to thrive, they need to be smart, efficient, savvy. making the most of every opportunity. that's why comcast business is introducing the small business bonus. for a limited time you can get up to a $1000 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"the new york times'" maggie haberman is here to share insights into trump world in a way that only she can. >> thanks, i appreciate that, jake. >> it's okay. so, trump keeps trying to rewrite the history of what happened january 6th. i want to play a recording of what he told abc news chief washington correspondent jon karl for his new book called "tired of winning." this is about trump's supposed desire to go to the u.s. capitol during the riot. take a listen. >> told them you would go to the capitol. were you just -- >> i was going to and the secret service said, you can't and then by the time -- i would have and when i got back, i saw -- i wanted to go back. i was thinking about going back during the problem to stop the problem, doing it myself. secret service didn't like that idea too much. >> so what -- >> i could have done that and you know what i would have been very well received. don't forget the people that went to washington that day in my opinion, they went because they thought the election was rigged. that's why they went. >> there's so much to, like -- there's a lot there. first of all, they thought the election was rigged because he had been lying for months about it being rigged. i love also how he calls the insurrection a problem, the problem. but he never really says what he was going to do there. do you know what he was going to do there. >> no, and i find it -- look, i do believe he wanted to march initially before the riot broke out. i think that is true. all of us have had reporting on it in realtime. the idea he thought he could go back because he was thinking he could maybe make it better, i don't know why he wouldn't have said more of that on twitter at the time if that was actually -- >> revisionism. >> so i think one piece of that is real and one piece of that sounds not at all comporting with anything else we know. >> i wish -- i really want to know what he thought he was going to do. >> i don't think that he necessarily had that thought before he was articulating it to jon karl. i don't know that we will ever know the answer. i actually was struck by that audio where he says in my opinion in the middle of it, no, because he -- he's been leaning on in my opinion a little bit more recently since the indictments. >> oh, in my opinion they went because they thought the election was rigged. >> i'm a -- i'm struck he was using that language that early. that interview was in 2021. >> in my opinion. >> he calls it the problem. >> right, well, it's -- that's a euphemism, yeah. >> so related to that, the federal judge pr

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