>> dramatic scene is playing out in the waters of hawaii right now. a large u.s. navy aircraft, ending up in the bay off of war who, after overshooting the runway at the marine corps base there in hawaii. thankfully, we're told there are no casualties. nine people were on that aircraft that you can see here. they're currently being assessed tonight, or still waiting on details of their current condition. i should note, this comes as national weather service showed gust up to 21 miles per hour, miss, visibility was down to a mile at the time of this incident. we'll keep an eye on this and keep you updated. thank you so much for joining us tonight. cnn news with abby phillip starts right now. >> the far-right rises again around the world, and there's a clear evidence why. that is tonight's, on news nights. ♪ ♪ ♪ good evening, i'm abby philip in new york. mid-south americas new far-right famous loving leader. today, the world is learning a lot more about this guy. [crowd chanting] don't cry from me argentina. and yes it's a chainsaw. he is the nation's new president elect, and he's an outsider nicknamed el loco, the mad man, with wolverine haircut and renaissance biography. [speaking in a non-english language] [speaking in a non-english language] [speaking in a non-english language] >> he is a political outcast, profane with the grudge against the pope who taught, and i'm not kidding here, can't trick sex. he'll enter this office with a clear mission. >> the improv -- only benefits a few while the majority of argentine suffer is coming to an end. today, the idea that the state is like a bounty to be divided amongst politicians and their friends is over. today, the idea that the perpetrators of the victims and the victims of the perpetrators is over. today, we returned to the path that made this country great. today, we, once again, embraced the ideas of freedom, bear these ideas. >> if that's make argentina great again line catches you and makes you wonder if you're seeing another donald trump figure in the world stage. he is not quite that simple. you got to put his and trump's political agendas in a bendayan graham. there is very little actually that they share. he put his name to dozens of academic papers. he's fluent in economics. he's someone who can detail and precise terms his personal evolution from a mainstream pusher of liberal economic thought, to self-described capitalist. listen to milei, and he shares donald trump's anger. >> [speaking in a non-english language] [speaking in a non-english language] [speaking in a non-english language] >> there is some nuance here and his libertarian worldview. he takes soft approaches to trans rights. he supports marriage. he says, go ahead, sell your organs if you want, but the state should have nothing to do with that. but, underpinning his rise is that's anger. milei's fans revel in his win saying, out with all of them, counting on milei to drain their swamp and engineer a way out a decades-long inflation. [speaking in a non-english language] >> translator: we know there are people who are going to resist. we know there are people who are going to keep this system of privileges for some that impoverish is the majority of argentines. to all of them, i want to say the following. within the law, everything, above the law, nothing. >> that is the anger, that is the point. it's a phenomenon that fueled far-right figures everywhere. you look promising to deliver prosperity and to flip the bird to the potential politicians. you see it in brazil >> we face a battle between good and evil. the evil lasted for years in our country, and almost broke it. they want to go back now to the crime scene. >> in hungary. >> if you separates civilization from futile christian habited, the first thing in history happen, let's be honest, the most i will say in modern history were carried out by people who hated christianity. do not be afraid to call your enemies by their name. >> and, of course, in italy. >> [speaking in a non-english language] [speaking in a non-english language] >> then there is right here in the united states. >> nobody knows the system better than me. [speaking in a non-english language] >> then there is right here in the united states. >> nobody knows the system better than me. [crowd chanting] which is why, i alone can fix it! [crowd chanting] >> joining me now is cnn political commentator and rolling stone columnist jane michaelson. s. e., this phenomenon, this right-wing populism, but really the emphasis on the populist right here is something that has become rather than importing out-of-state in some ways an export to the rest of the world as well. >> milei i would carve out a little, as you did, he's a little bit more nuanced. i see him more like a ron paul kind of guy. but, certainly, the populism is exploding in places you might not expect. last, year i wrote about a rise in right-wing nationalism in sweden of all places. so, hungary, brazil, and i think what happened with trump was the world was watching and thought, if america, this bastion of democracy and freedom is not going to tamp down on the sky, who is? maybe this is something we could emulate because will get away with it, will be allowed to. i think if republicans had come in and said we're not nominating this guy, this is not going to be our version of conservatism, i think the world would have taken no, and there might be one last -- you name it today. >> it also strikes me that so much of this is about the redirect, about the dialing up of the rhetoric, of the enemies of the people, that's kind of saying. you see this from trump, from the simulator isn't milei in hungry, all over the world. that might be in respect of the policy. >> i think it's right. the emotional tone is the defining feature of populism. it's not necessarily new. we've seen this kind of reactionary populism for the last hundred 50 years in the west. before the not sees where the great villain that we assumed to be, they were political party with an agenda, and they also had a nationalist agenda. we're seeing so much, i try to take a little bit of a step back and see what's the human nature that's behind this global rise in populism, and what is happening around the world, technological advances, changes in social, increases in migration, and the loss of certain kinds of privilege that some people had in their home countries. these kinds of dislocations, liberals need to take the more seriously i think when they do. here i mean, small liberals. this sort of populist answer is, we're going to return to some special perfect time in the past. that does not really work, but there's not a compelling, it's hard to articulate the alternative to that. >> here is why i think this matters if you're sitting in the united states and wondering, okay, argentina's been a mess politically and economically for a while. some of the factors that are at play there, the high inflation, the sort of political upset, the young people wanting a say, these are all things that you can easily see coming into play in 2024. >> absolutely. they've already been in play, and it into the tone and rhetoric, if you are in sufficiently angry about these issues, then you are not trustworthy to this group of people. the anger is really really important. when trump goes on and says, never mind's my mean tweets, i am angry about stuff and you should be too. he goes to cartoonish overreach when he does it. he prays on our basic instincts. he's out there identifying problems that a lot of people see every day, and democrats are saying don't exist. there is no rise in crime, there is no border crisis. joe biden is going great, so as the economy, don't believe your blind eyes and your feelings. leaning into that iyengar has been very very important to trump and other right-wing nationalist would be leaders around the world. >> i think that's right. you can see the ideological malleability, particularly in the argentinian case. we don't see a lot of hard right vigorous putting this in our capitalism. when i was in college, i was front of someone who describe themselves as a capitalist, and now the president of argentina. that's really appears to be -- >> that was like a kind of thing that, college soft more as you talk about. this is the mainstream and i think we don't see that amongst other far-right figures attempt to be more standard kinds of arch capitalist let's say. i think that goes to your point that this is really a motive tone and that's been true of nationalism for quite some time. >> and populism. >> do you think is being taken seriously by the liberals that this is out there? and it is real? >> from my vantage point, being inside the conservative movement but also really disavowing where trump has taken its, no, no. there is a condescension from the left for a long time that you heard in the way people talked about the square state. there's a whole book called what's the matter would kansas. i mean, democrats are looking back on that now with some embarrassment that it was snobbish, to it was condescending, but i was trying to talk over to people with some very real grievances. some of those grievances might also be imagined, imaginary racism or white replacement or conspiracy theories. some of them are real. >> that title is unfortunate, but that argument is the same argument you're actually making. >> no it's. not >> no, really. the claim is that people are voting against economic interests. which is clearly true. what i think that got right, in a patronizing tone, with that it's not just the economy is stupid. >> nor other issues. >> there was all types of dislocations people in counties were experiencing, and that's what they voted for. i think it is right that the idea was a mistake. no, you should be voting your economics interest, not voting for the things you believe. in >> mistakes is how people should votes and what's important to them. i think it's a mistake democrats are making. >> this is an important point. we talk about this from the frame of economics because oftentimes that is what is being said out loud. what is not being said is the frame of people social self interest, what they think about their group identity, and that plays out which trump, it plays out in italy where they're pushing back against migrants and all these other places. well >> that's what's so striking about the argentinian cases, scouring a statement to see, where is it going to stay the quiet part a lot about immigrants? he did not make that argument. it was much more an anti elite argument, something that you would hear from rfk junior here in the united states. like, oh the elites, the political elites, they don't have your interest of hands. that to me is actually almost unique and fascinating. >> this is super fascinating will continue to watch. it stick around for, us we'll be back in just a little bit. up next for us tonight, the revolt is underway at one of the biggest companies in artificial intelligence as one of the industry's biggest names gets the boot. plus, a court just got the voting rights act, making it harder for groups to defend all voters. and, new signs of president biden maybe embracing his age. despite concerns ahead of the next election. >> resign, or we will. that is why openai employees are telling its board of directors in a new letter. just days after the board abruptly firing the cofounder and ceo sam altman. more than 700 employees are threatening to leave for microsoft. saying they are unable to work for, or with people who lack competence, judgment, or care for openai mission. the move follows microsoft announcement that he they would hire sam altman, to lead its artificial intelligence unit. but, hold on now, and interviews later today ceo made it clear that altman could still return to openai in some capacity. the revolt in openai is more than a fight then between the employees and board. but rather the, lasting consequences of artificial intelligence and what it could have on our society. joining me is linette lopez, and editor-in-chief ben smith. ben, this is like the fight over who gets the dragon egg game of thrones. this is technology that is like inoculating, and who owns it kind of owns the future. tell us in layman's terms, why it matters who runs openai and whether it is sam altman or someone else? >> you have a strange situation, anyone who has developed it has or run these companies, like sam altman or around openai, which developed chatgpt which is pretty amazing. presented themselves at their real interest was making sure that a i did not go too fast. they had a nonprofit board who said it was their job. at that point, the board seem to take it a little too seriously while the actual company raced to make as much company as they could make as much money as they. could and attempted to fire sam altman, for essential going too fast. i was point the people overrating the company, it is like our actual mission is to build a great company and make money. what is all this stuff about slowing down, and worrying about the robot apocalypse is so to sort of pr. sell the company to microsoft, make a billion dollars, make cool technology. >> lynette, do you think it matters whether there is a state admission to make a i save for humankind. does that even matter? is it a significant part of this conversation at all? or was it always destined to become a for profit giant? >> chatgpt does not have the monopoly on creating great a. i., they will be companies that make better language models, because that is what they make they have a large language model, that scrapes the internet for patterns, that make sense as what you would say a sentence, or logic, or thought. there are other companies that can do this, and our do this, it's just that chatgpt raced to it first. it became a household name that became viral, and brought the technology to the forefront of our popular culture. the stuff has been going on since 2018. there are three things that are happening right now, one we do not know why sam altman was actually fired. it could be political political, they would not tell us what he did, or how he was racing too fast. the other thing is openai, still doesn't make any money it's needs its investors like microsoft. which is why they have the freedom to say how you can stay with us, or you can go to openai. what we are really realizing now is that the board is toothless. it does not have money, or control over the investors. lastly, the mission. okay, is this mission about what is happening in a. i. now, while we're still trying to figure out the use cases for this large language model technology. or is this mission about technology that we don't actually even have. the fearmongering from this board, is about general intelligence a. i.. which is like the robots in the jetsons. we do not have that yet. >> well, we could. >> or we might not ever. >> should we be afraid then that this is the beginning, that is part of the technology that gets kind of scary. >> it's good that lynette is so relaxed about the robot apocalypse. i think what we are seeing here is in realtime this idea, once you have -- this technology the notion that these private companies are going to exercise any kind of control, other than essentially feed the market. there was a lot of skepticism of that. we are seeing that idea collapse in realtime. >> if you are microsoft, one of the things we don't really know is whether sam altman we'll end up at microsoft. there's some idea that he could go back to openai, maybe with a different board. if you are microsoft do you want openai and sam altman, and all of these brains from this entity in your company, or would you prefer them to be on the. outside their stock got a little breeze today because of this. >> i who knows, i think the important question is. a. i think what it thinks. how does it come to the conclusions that it comes to? like, what we see when we put a prompt into chatgpt, is like solving a math problem without showing your work. i think what we need to focus on is not the fearmongering, that could come ten, 15 years down the road. we need to focus on understanding this technology now, and the fearmongering distracts from that. it seems very convenient to me. >> do you think then that this is what the board is worried about? the lack of guardrails is a real problem. >> it's hard to know, that is what they say they are worried about. they have not been effective in doing anything other than handing microsoft the whole company, sort of for free, without regulatory approval, this incredible gift. who knows if this works out. it seems like microsoft was just trying to put the genie back in the bottle. they had a functioning stable situation. >> and they call themselves altruistic, which also sam altman says that he was. we know how that turned out. i think watching what they do, not what they say. >> forgive me for being a little skeptical that there is all truism at play here. people want to take make money, see where that takes. on it's a stunning ruling that will impact voting rights that will impact black voters, and racial minorities i devastating blow. that is next. plus former president trump releasing the results, of a recent health exam. why the timing is noteworthy here. the idf potentially arresting a rising rider, and contributor for the new yorker, we will ask what went on there. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. well donald trump's gag order appeal got the most attention today, in another court the voting rights act is in serious jeopardy. the act is a landmark legislation from the 1960s, outlawing racial discrimination in america's voting system. tonight a federal appeals court gutted it. the ruling that private groups cannot bring lawsuits, only the federal government can. in a written dissent, a george w. bush appointee noted that just 15 cases, in the last 40 years have been brought by the justice department. he writes, that's the right so foundational to self government should not depend solely on the discretion, or availability of the government agents for protection. let's discuss this with judith brown dianis, director of the advancement project. judith thank you for joining us. this is something that you called a body blow to the voting rights act of 1965. if you are an average voter, in one of these states, what does this mean for you heading into 2024? >> first we have to remember, the eighth circuit does not cover the whole country, but it does cover missouri, arkansas, minnesota, missouri has brought voting rights cases. what it means for that handful of states, including the dakotas, and iowa, and nebraska, is that this court has slammed the courthouse door on civil rights plaintiffs and organizations. it means that the federal government is the only protector that we have. that our communities cannot access justice on their own. it is problematic for so many reasons. i mean, the first thing is, this is fundamental, it's one of those things that you say isn't even a thing. this is never happened. no court has ever raised that. in fact, in this case itself, the defendants did not raise it. the lower court raised it on its own. this has been well settled, that plaintiffs can bring civil rights cases under the voting rights act, and now this one court has gone rogue. it has acted out side of precedent, outside of what the supreme court has done. >> when it comes to the supreme court, one of the factors, the judge who wrote the majority op