all so much for joining us. we'll see you tomorrow live from atlanta, seen a news node, abby phillip starts right now right here in new york. >> are we watching an omen of what november may brain? that's tonight on newsnight cnn's breaking news good evening. >> i'm abby phillip in new york moments ago, a major cnn projection in the race, the entire political world's attention has been fixated on tonight. jamaal bowman is now officially out of a job. the squad member losing two tonight to george latimer. it is an important marker and it shows the potential political power and parallel of the war in gaza. it also shows the candidates aren't taking a dramatic risk perhaps when they alienate jewish voters. bowman is younger, more high-profile. he's a key fixture was thought to be the ryzen wing of the democratic party alongside fellow new yorker alexandria ocasio-cortez, rachida to leave. and also ilhan omar but he is now on the losing end of the most expensive house primary in american history. cnn senior data reporter harry and ten is over at the magic wallet has the latest results for us. so harry, what happened there in new york 16? >> yeah, i've been looked. you had the march computer scream. i got my nice little yellow truck markup here, a double-digit win for george latimer. you very rarely see incumbents losing by this wide of a margin, double digits, you know, what happened? you asked abbe, well, a few things happen. number for one, i would say jamaal bowman didn't exactly know his district. what do i mean when i say that? well, let's break it down by county. these particular results, right? that the 16th district is partially the bronx. it's also partially westchester. let's go to the bronx part of the district. what do you say? oh, that's a little bit further here we go. >> we'll talk about the bronze what about western? so if you look at westchester, what you see is a tremendous margin four jbeil, george latimer, if you look at the bronx portion of the district, what do you see? you see the exact opposite? you see a very large margin for george latimer, the issue of course, is that the westchester part of the district makes up a considerable fleet larger portion of the vote more than that, there's this whole question, okay. this is a primary, right? you're normally we deal with low turnout. well, look back to where we were in 2020 to look at the turnout, the total votes that were cast in new york 16th district. what did we say? we saw a little less than 40,000 folks cast about look how many folks can that's the ballot this time around, only so far we're looking at about 55,000 votes already cast were still a considerable portion of the vote still to go in new york's 16 congressional district. you also mentioned israel earlier on abyei. here's the thing that i will know, george latimer lead this race wire-to-wire even before for any of that aipac money hit the air george latimer was a ahead in the internal polling by double digits. and as we look at this race right now, what do we see? we say it definitely paid off for george latimer, a longtime local paul, served and rye as early as 1987, he is the winner tonight, jamaal bowman is out of a job in large part because a mile opinion, he didn't know his voters well enough abbe a major moment for the house of representatives and for jamaal bowman. harry, thank you very much. we'll check in with you later a lot to digest tonight with our panel and george latimer will join me live and just a few moments. but first here on set with a republican strategist, joe opinion, former white house geoff deputy press secretary for the obama administration, bill burton, scene and political commentator s. e. cupp and cnn, senior political commentator david axelrod. david this is an earthquake. the squad human with a bang in the 2020 20 election now, what of its members is out of a job over an issue that has animated the progressive left but alienated them from the center left as well. >> yeah, look, i think that there's no denying that this was at the center of the race. but jamaal bowman had other problems as well well, that we shouldn't ignore maybe best characterized are symbolized by his decision to pull a fire alarm in the middle of a vote, that start stop a vote in congress for which he was cited. and so he had issues. this this is a in the main hey, in a more center-left district, and he, you know, he got elected in the, in the george floyd year but i think this is part we should just a couple of, a couple of weeks ago, there were primaries in oregon and in portland where you saw two progressive candidates a loose to center left candidates. and so the question isn't just about israel, which is obviously a divisive issue within the democratic party between the progressive contingent and other democrats, but also whether there is a general moving more to the center among democratic primary ray voter know what do you think about that? >> well, i think i think that bowman ran a campaign that was true to who he is as a progressive he brought out aoc and bernie sanders. he had some high-profile interviews included on the breakfast club with charlemagne the god. but to david's point, that's just not where this district was. this district is a center-left and i think that if you spend $20 against someone who's politics don't totally match up with where the district is. you just don't have a shot ultimately, this will also be seen through the prism of the gaza war and there are concerns out there on the left that this is an issue that could divide democrats. >> well, it is, it is divided democrats. i was speaking to a number of voters in michigan who have said we are staying home were done, were gone. we are not coming back home for biden, which is kind of wild to think about because the alternatives trump and rfk jr. or even more pro-israel. so these are people who are that offended and disaffected that they want to stay home on the other hand, you've got people like bowman really sort of cartoonishly exaggerating when they go out on the stump, p, trafficked and some conspiracy theories that were really ugly. he later apologized for them there was a story that he contacted some jews that he knew asking for photographs to prove that he had friends and the jewish community. a lot of missteps. and what we're seeing is that jewish voters in westchester voted early real early. i mean, something like 15% had already clocked in their votes, so they were really animated did by that. but as david said, he had other problems. the ads that were running against jamaal bowman criticized him from the center left for going after biden and not being with biden enough, he had some issues. >> i want to play one of those ads or you just mentioned, this is just an example of all the money that poured into this race jamaal bowman keeps attacking president biden and it's hurting new york. bowman called president biden a liar he voted good against the president's infrastructure act, against rebuilding roads and bridges in new york to la bowman has his own agenda and he's hurting you york. george latimer, we'll take on maga extreme and who worked with president biden to keep delivering progressive results not exactly attacking him from the right there i mean, for republicans, what message would you take away from what happened here tonight? >> oh, look, i don't really believe this is about republicans. >> i think that there is a gut check moment happening for democrats that one are they going to be tolerant of unabashedly anti-semitism within their ranks. i think that's a real issue. you cannot deny that. you see the money that was spent over $25 million. it was an avalanche of cash that drove that turnout, but i think even to harry's point, this race was in many ways over before it started. i grew up in the 16th for it a great deal of my life in yonkers, new york, for the longest time we had elliott angle, most famous for hanging out by the railing, waiting for the president to come give the state of the union but at the end of the day, i disagree with his politics, but he's certainly comport it himself in a way that the district could be proud. and so when you have somebody who spends their entire life as an educator with then goes to dc, starts pulling fire alarms and potential. he has no idea that the fire alarm is actually a fire alarm when he is running around cursing and not hidden the profane manner, i think he was so eager to be part of the squad that he doth protest too much. he was the last one in and he is now the last one out and i think for me the question becomes does he gracefully bow out as you continue to go down this rabbit hole? because he does have the working family party line. originally, he did give the working family response to biden in 2021. i think democrats gave them their response. he's going to be looking for new jobs. >> every one of the things on the eye, like i said, i think there was much more at play than this issue. but on the issue of israel and gaza, he was one of those who was pre reluctant to criticize hamas and accept the reports of what hamas had done the atrocities of october 7. i think that was a bridge too far for a lot of i think it's possible a whole two thoughts. i hold them i was absolutely he was stated by what happened on october 7 and i weep for the children of gaza. i think it's possible to do those two things. he wasn't doing those two things. >> do you think that the race was being made to be about aipac money? >> yes the impact of money in politics, brace adders and aoc basis basically said, big money is buying this race. >> i mean, is that a fair criticism? >> look, i think there's no doubt that big money played a role that apex money played a role, but they also had something to work with, as you saw, that ad was not about israel, that ad was about jamaal bowman and he did not fit that district. so yes. on the one hand, there's there and you see it in other districts, you see in a cori bush race and in missouri, you see some of this, but but at the end of the day, if someone has a solid base and is in tune with their district, all the money in the world is hard to beat an combat. he was sitting, he was a sitting duck in some ways, not because of this issue, but because of many issues. >> one of which why is hakeem jeffries has talked about this sort of thorn in his side of the far left extremes acute jeffries wants to take back the house he wants candidates more like tom suozzi in new york. unless like jamaal bowman running around kind of embarrassing the party. so there were those internal party factors as well, i think to that point, you'd obviously georgia is going to be joining us. look, i don't agree with his politics, but i think jamaal bowman never saw a two term city and county executive coming at him from the right buddy, who quite literally has never lost an election so you see somebody who has gone from ride gone to the state senate, gone to become county executive, is a known quantity in westchester, in particular, in that district. i think that he spent so much time hanging out with aoc. he believed that that district reflected his own and i think the harry's point, he found out the hard way did not all right. >> everyone standby 4. the winner at george latimer as we've been discussing, he's going to join me live in just moments plus, we're going to talk about the big debate that's just 47 hours away. stay with us. this isn't as high thursday night live from midland. the most anticipated moment of this election biden rod run america sure. that we are a nation of possibilities. >> trump. we had the best economy, we had the best border, we had the best of everyday, but now we got to do it all over again. >> we're going to do it even there are two very different visions for america. one unprecedented night moderated by jake tapper and dana bash, the cnn presidential debate thursday night at nine live get cnn and streaming on one second. grandma disguised going to buy my car. >> okay. do you need carbonic entering plate number no accidents, right? 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bill? >> why? i don't think you have a lot of squad members in districts like this one, right? i think that this is a very particular set of circumstances where the politics denis, one match up with where the voters were. so i think that the squad is going to continue to be the progressive voice of the democratic party and continue to push on the edges of where politics are and? i think that there's a place for that and that's fine. it's just i probably not in districts like this. >> what about apac? i mean, are you comfortable joe, with the way that they are playing? i mean, it's not just this race. i mean, they have gone after progressive democrats in a bunch of different races. sometimes have lost but are you comfortable with the way that they are wielding their power in electoral politics will look, i mean, first of all, they're not the only group that spends outrageous amounts of some money on politics. so i think the single them out in that regard is unfair. i think in many ways maybe i'm the rear voice, but they've made some mistakes and those mistakes have reaped the jamaal moments of the world. if you look at what happened in october 7th, going all the way back many years, aipac has endorsed in many incumbents to chuck schumer the world that gerson jewelry brands of the world, people who have spent a great deal of their time now undermining benjamin netanyahu, anytime when israel needs our support the most. and so i think this kind of reflexes status quo support has led to this this place where they have to spend so much money now, it's interesting that you brought that up because i do think this speaks to where we are politically used to be that aipac was sort of somewhere in the center of the two parties. the accusation today is that now they have moved actually to the right and they don't want to acknowledge that that's what's happened is part of it is that they hey, their signals from the government of israel and whoever the government is at that moment, net yahoo has been a dominant force and he's created these alliances with a republican party here it's interesting, you know, he, he gotten sideways with donald trump because he acknowledged biden's election and trump was very angry at him and has said so publicly. and now it feels like he's working hard to sort of make a men's and hedges bets on this next election. but i just disagree with you, joe on the idea that that somehow if you're an american politician or an american presence isn't an end you disagree with benton benjamin netanyahu, that somehow that makes you ask israel are worthy of opposition. there are plenty of people in israel who oppose what netanyahu doing and have questions about how he's conducted this one. what i am saying specifically is not there's someone can cannot disagree with tactics of israel or not saying that somebody cannot as he criticized the prime minister of israel, what i i'm saying is that there has been a certain level of consternation at a point in time when america needs to be supporting israel in their efforts to root out hamas, root and stem. and so i think again to your point, you can hold two positions at the same time? yes. we can say that there is a place for criticism, but we have gone past criticism. we have gone to a point where i truly believe that if you actually look at the statements that have been made by key stakeholders within democratic party that have previously been supported by aipac. they have done things that have made it more difficult for us to get those hostages back, have made it more difficult for israel to press their cause and that is just my position somewhat argue that the difficulty in getting the house to use back is netanyahu himself, who has repeatedly turned down various proposals. so i don't know that it's fair to say that all i know is this. i don't know where israel would be without the kind of support that america has provided. i, i just i'm old enough to remember when iranian drones were coming over israel a few months ago, and they were shot down mostly by american. all right, guys, weapons everyone. >> hi for me, george latimer is joining me now. sir. congratulations and thank you for joi