♪ ♪ ♪ hello america i am mark levin. this is life, liberty and levin. iran is the israeli strategic affairs minister and war cabinet member a very close confidant to prime minister benjamin netanyahu welcome mr. ambassador for a quick trick to be with you. it seems to me here in the united states the better the idf is doing the more israel and the idf run criticism from the media. the better the idf is doing, the more people around the world's routing and the better the idea for doing the more, do not want to break -- dragged into politics let's just say the more hostility there seems to bigness israel's i do not leave the impression the american people feel this way, absolutely not for the american people want to kick butt and hit as hard as you can and as fast as you can. to get that impression israel? or could s consider from the beg of the war everyone stands we are a victim. late it's a very good conversation which over the brutal enemy that not only attacked us in the most horrific way on october 7 given the size of our country it was equivalent of 20911's kidnapped 240 hostages in the wake of the brutal attack as we go in go into actually when i consistent brutal enemy that's a liberty targeting us in using own people as human shields as you know they have an entire terror tunnel network underneath gaza it makes it very hard to prosecute the war. in their plan as you know is they want us to go in and they are keeping siblings as human shields they are hoping when israel unintentionally targets this not target civilians but unintentionally harms those civilians those civilians are killed the whole world would turn against israel because that is what has happened before instead of blaming the civilian casualties on hamas they could call for cease-fire they call for us to end this war against hamas we are not going to end the war against hamas for not going to agree to a cease-fire just like you would not agree to a cease-fire that month after the bombing of pearl harbor or japan or pearl harbor. to prosecute this war until hamas is eliminated. this around that we had and gaza as you note many rounds over the last decade or so. this round is going to be the last round we are going to eliminate military capabilities we are going to end their political rule of gaza we are going to ensure that gaza never poses a threat to the people of israel. the country is united behind that mission i and a very powerl way. whether there's people in the united states or europe or elsewhere the doesn't want israel to win, too bad israel is going to win we are going to finish off hamas and in doing so it is not just going to be a victory for israel. it's going to be a victory for all the forces of peace in a moderation in our region. as you know hamas as part of and access of tear that begins in tehran. they control hezbollah and lebanon they have militia in iraq that are attacking you. they have attacked us and have attacked saudi arabia and have hamas and islamic jihad in gaza they have tear militia all over the world. they want israel to lose. on the other side there's israel, saudi arabia, the united arab emirates they are all of america's allies in the region and it is very important for us to win. we'll meet when the forces of peace and progress win. at if we lose, which we are not what they want us to lose if we lose that axis of tears going to grow is going to be a threat not just to israel to threat to the moderate arab countries in the region as a threat to europe ultimately a threat to the united states the axis of tear belief begins in tehran. remember those people in tehran refer to israel as the small. they referred to the united states is the great state their leading chant is death to america death to israel. and winning this war in israel we are protecting america and we are protecting all of the forces of civilization around the world. i know people who are on our side there are many, many as you say throughout the united states and throughout the world pulling for us to win we appreciate the solidarity and the support we are going to win and win for us and all tin all the world. >> mr. ambassador i am a little perplexed to. even before you folks are done there are countries like ours, like mine just decided how a post- gosspost gossip territorio look. a two state solution. i imagine this annoys you a little bit. i voice it that way but those are israelis who are losing their lives. their blood is being poured in gaza. it seems to me israel should have some say on what happened since israel took that territory after they were attacked by egypt and gave it to the palestinians. so the two part question here, number one do people understand do terrorists really are interested in managing estate, a country? what hamas wants what iran wants what hezbollah wants is a caliphate. that's why they are in all these other countries that is why they are trying to topple the so-called moderate arab countries. they want you to defeat and take on iran. said they do not lose as you werarejust saying their own cous that is number one. and number two what is this idea the international community are one country and another except for israel gets to decide the fate of the gaza territory. >> we are not in a war thousands of miles away for you to be in afghanistan or iraq or somewhere. it's hundreds of yards away from israel it is right across the border. on so obviously we are going to have to make sure we don't have a force to emerge in gaza after we finish the war they could possibly threaten israel. because we cannot have what happen october 7 happen again. we are going to be involved in this throughout. the prim prime minister sit isrl for a long time is going to have to retain overwriting security responsibility a lot of people got upset about that. what he is saying is the most obvious thing in the world. we have to be able to ensure a terror organization does not reemerge in this post hamas and gaza were going to rid of hamas and get rid of islamic jihad. this is a two-year snuff warriors from now, 20 years from now we are not going to have a new terror organization emerge there and who's going to stop it? who's going to buy for the terrace and kill them? you see what is happening your viewers may know about the day of similar and the west bank pretty a palestinian authority there they are not stopping terrorism there israel has to go in on the ground for israeli troops have to go into cities like jeanine to make sure we are rooting out terrace and they are there is no question israel is going to have to retain overwriting security responsibility for this is foreseeable future as for what we will see in gaza? that is it interesting conversation will have to have that with our partners in the united states the arab partners in the region and around the world. it is a lot of different opinions about that but i will tell you what we are not going to have. we are not going to have hamas are going to have to have gossip. here's another point gaza has to be read d radicalized. we cannot allow any force there that's going to educate the next generation of palestinians to hate israel. to hate jews, to hate america by the way as well we cannot allow it to happen. cap look into the schools. we look into the mosque you make sure you don't have a media and a cultural environment that's poisoned the next generation. the best historical example i can give you for that is what happened in world war ii the united states had a decisive military victory over germany and japan and they put in place different regimes there and ensured the next generation of germans and japanese would not be poisoned against the united states and today germany and japan are two great allies of the united states. but we have to have is a real change in gaza. a realtor future for the people who live in gaza for the palestinians who live in gaza a future that can put us on some path ultimately reaching a peaceful settlement of our conflict that has not happened in the last 30 years. it hasn't unfortunately great hopes of the oslo process is going to happen for theirs hopes israel withdrew from the territory which we did 17 years ago withdrew all of our troops from there. somehow peace would emerge it's not going to emerge. after october 7 israel is not going to roll the dice with the security of its citizens we are going to have to ensure that in gaza there's going to be whatever the structure will be that we will be decided after the war. we are going to have to make sure there's not a force there that's a building and building and building up to ultimately attack israel. and i will tell you something, the market. this a lot of people are not hopeful. we were living under this illusion that somehow this would all work out. if you keep talking about a two state solution's o something god will happen. with the with a real problem of what young the palestinians are learning. what they are teaching in their schools. you're from this capitol to that capitol backcapitol it doesn't . look at what a young palestinian is learning in school. look at a young palestinians sitting on screens that will decide a next generati next-geny put a lot of in this process and israel has to defeat completely eliminate from gaza and build something else. and building something else we have hope of a different future for israel, for our security but also from palestinians and all of our partners in the region. you know the abraham accords were done just a few years ago, it brought real hope to the region. if we have a decisive military victory in gaza, i think the next step will be to hopefully expand peace between israel and the arab neighbors for i think that is possible but it will definitely not happen without a victory in gaza. a victory and gaza against hamas will be a bloke that axes of terror led by iran. it will be like the iranian octopus losing an arm. the second would be a peace between israel and saudi arabia. it's difficult to see that but it's a clear path toward that future and it begins by defeating hamas in gaza. jon: you said many important things one your talk about the culture. if you lose the culture you lose the country. and if you can change the culture you can save society. we have a cultural issue and our own country as you no doubt have seen from israel was going on in our universities with going on in our streets was going on in our media it's quite disgusting. not the people but the ruling class elites, the mouthpieces for the elites, they embrace this cultural route that's happening in the united states it's very important what you said about changing the culture because you cannot change the politics you cannot change the government if you don't change the culture that's important. when we come back mr. ambassador, my question for you is this, would it not help israel, the region the reduction of terrorism funds that are still flowing into iran were not? with a billions and billions and billions of dollars coming into iran. what do you think of that when we return. we will be right you're probably not easily persuaded to switch mobile providers for your business. but what if we told you it's possible that comcast business mobile can save you up to 75% a year on your wireless bill versus the big three carriers? it's true. plus when you buy your first line of mobile, you get a second line free. there are no term contracts or line activation fees. and you can bring your own device. oh, and all on the most reliable 5g mobile network nationwide. wireless that works for you. it's not just possible, it's happening. mark: welcome back america. we were the former israeli ambassador to the united states is really strategic affairs admitted, confidant of the prime minister. he will always be mr. ambassador to me. mr. ambassador that money flown into iran and from my run iran g into terrorist operations and so forth, shouldn't more be done by the united states, by europe, from other countries to stop the flow of money pouring into iran as a result of the exports? that was the case if you years ago now they are flush with cash. >> absolutely nothing good will come from giving money to iran. just to your viewers know iran is responsible for 93% they are responsible for around one 100% of has below budget. they are responsible arming and financing them. they are responsible for the militia who are attacking the ignited states in the it that'ss in the region. iran is the head of the snake. iran is the problem in the region and giving them money for any reason does not help. what should happen is the toughest sanctions should be put on iran. they should be enforced there are tough sanctions on iran. but also united nations security council sanctions should be snapped back. just a few weeks ago one of the security council sanctions humor that nuclear deal that was done a few years ago. in that deal all of the security council began to sunset after five years there were no arms restrictions on iran. and after eight years it was missile restrictions who do you think is lobbing the missiles at israel right now we have 10,000 rockets fired at us where the missiles coming question what they are coming from ir from iry the way is providing russia with the drones at missiles they are using against ukraine that is iran. martha not snapping back the sanctions in the security council? the united states thankfully withdrew from the deal if you would years ago but they are still in the deal why are they still the deal? why not stop back security sanctions why not pressure iran question mccoy not enforce the oil sanctions and you should know in your viewers should know around 90% of the oil is going to china. there is no secondary sanctions being put in place. right now iran is north of 2 million barrels a day they are exporting that is almost where they were before president trump decided to withdraw from the nuclear deal with iran. so the sanctions are not being enforced i implore the biden administration to enforce the sanctions on iran. you squeeze iran because all the money that goes to iran is not going to a g.i. bill for returning members of the revolutionary guard it is going to fund iran's war machine. and iraq, in syria, and lebanon and gaza in yemen everywhere else it iran is your enemy did the enemy of israel but the enemy of america that nothing good will go from giving money to iran i hope the united states will come together as it should at enforcing the toughest sanctions and putting a credible military threat on iran to ensure they didn't have any ideas about breaking ahead and trying to get a nuclear weapon because the nuclear weapons program keeps advancing keeps advancing they have to face a credit credible military threat they have to have crippling thank sanctions the third thing because people have forgotten it. a year ago for having this conversation there were protests throughout iran. the iranian people hate their regime. they should be given the support of the world right now. those iranian people are key to a better future for iran and the united states and israel. there is no reason why iran cannot be a partner of the united states but this is an enemy. credible military threat support the people of iran. do not forget about them they are the key to having a better future for the region picot exit problem is i'm not seeing any of the sensing the opposite of this. and so on your point about nukes, what happens if they get a nuke? what happens in the middle east then what happens to any leverage what happens to the united states? i do not see any relentless effort to stop iran from getting nukes other than some diplomatic behind the scenes other than that nothing do you see something? was i deafly do not see enough outside october 7 was a wake-up call for israel. as you know the prime minister netanyahu made it very clear for many, many years israel's going to do it ever it has to just stop iran from developing nuclear weapons. that commitment still holds but now the people of israel understand the dangers we face on our border hamas is on our southern border and as you said on the southern border and got another on our northern border. i think the people of israel understand the danger of a nuclear to have these types of terror proxies that are threatening your population. hundreds of yards away to have these by iranian nuclear umbrella. will be a catastrophe a catastrophe for israel. a catastrophe for the middle east and a catastrophe for the world which is what israel is going to do whatever it has to do to prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons. but the key to a strategy that will work at stopping them from achieving their goal it works every day the important thing is to have the three legged policy that i talked about a credible military nuclear breakout crippling sanctions for the economic squeeze on iran and a real diplomatic effort not to speak to the leaders of iran to speak to the people of iran the dissidents of iran that is a policy that will work it worked with the soviet union and it will work with iran. thirty-six mark: and we come ban casualties i'm not talking about gaza i am talk about the rest of the arab world. that is the slaughter that goes day in and day out and iran in syria, and iraq, in yemen and all of these countries that really do practice islam a islac phobia one against the other. don't you find it a little ironic that here you are trying to defend yourselves in the most humane way possible like no army on the face of the earth with all these restrictions and obstacles and yet all of your neighbors who complained about civilian casualties are busy slaughtering their own people. we will be right back. okay, i'm on my way. uh. ugh! out of ink? 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