♪ ♪ ♪ no need to complicate it, i'm a simple man ♪ pete: good morning. welcome to the fourth and final hour of "fox & friends" on this friday -- excuse me, saturday, november 18th. year of our lord, 2023 -- rachel: who's tired today? pete: we're all tired, because with we're coming off being in that town for the patriot awards, which was phenomenal. will, i think one of the things nashville and austin share or or in common is they are also the capital of their states which means you've got a lot of government involvement -- will will country music. pete: we're hoping that nashville -- we know there's a liberal mayor in nashvilleing but generally, it's a more conservative area, not go the way of austin, which has lost its mind. will: we just got back from nashville where we had, pete hoed -- what was it, the fifth? fifth annual patriot awards. it was an awesome event, celebrates -- i'm hesitant to say everyday americans, but how about non-celebrity americans who do the some very heroic things that are not evidence acts ask and are -- everyday acts and are awarded the patriot award. rachel: i gave the first award out to moms of liberty, and i don't know who planned it, i think your wife did, really grateful she let me give that award out. i'm just so proud of the moms of liberty. being called domestic terrorists and just the abuse they took in many ways just to defend their kids and their schools and go, we have -- we're not going to let liberals take over our schools like this and indoctrinate our kids. we're going to stand in between, and they did it, and they've been really vilified in so many ways. pete: even in the green room, rachel, to your point, they were talking about a tweet that had come at them accusing them of the worst possible thing. remember, they were just two everyday moms two, tree years ago, now they're front and center on the takes of the left, and they didn't do it so they could stand on the stage at the patriot awards, they did it because they believed in parents and kids. i want to give a shout-out too to the production staff. everyone involved in putting an event like this on, it's a massive undertaking. and i dare anyone to not, i dare anyone to say that this show was not as well produced as something hike the oscars -- rachel: yeah. pete: or anything you would see on network television. they put together an awesome show from audio to lighting, to backstage -- rachel: there's dennis quaid. pete: i mean, this is a world war ii vet, 99 years old, who shared when he still -- what he still does by spreading the message of those stories, too few that are still with us. rachel: is he the last one? pete: there's, i think, 100,000 left -- rachel: no, from his battalion -- pete: from his unit, the last from his unit. it was an inspiring evening. you can still go to fox nation right now, vets and military, free subscription, watch the whole show. i would encourage you to do so. feedback's been with wonderful. he's a concern here's a young kid, preston the sharp, who at at the age of 10 decides to place flags and flowers at the graves of vets because he didn't see any and kept9 doing it for seven years. that's why we do it. we celebrated america in flashville at the grand ole opry house -- nashville, and we're hoping to do it again there next year, we'll see. we're not officially announcing it -- rachel: it was a great night. we gave an award to domestic terrorist moms. [laughter] pete: if you listen to the other side, that's how they would -- rachel: i was proud to do that. pete: i was proud that the we, like, know where our center is. loving the country and standing with the good country who fight for -- people who fight for it. the recipients change every year, but the message is the same; honoring real heroes. will: right now thousands of israelis flooding the streets of jerusalem demanding the are release of hostages taken by hamas. meanwhile, here in the united states massive anti-israeli protests breaking out yesterday. >> one, two, three, four -- >> [inaudible] >> occupation no more! >> five, six, seven, eight -- >> five, six, seven, eight -- >> [inaudible] >> israel is a terror state! rachel: hundreds of protesters swarming new york city's penn station last night. just hours earlier at least 40 pro-palestinian activists were arrested at the university of michigan. pete: that pro-palestinian activism here at home comes as the idf continues to carry out raids in the west bank in addition to gaza, arresting at least another dozen terror hamas operatives overnight in sumeria. triyaingsly in -- trey yingst live in southern israel with what's happening on the ground. dre, what's the update? >> reporter: hey, guys, good morning. we are following reports out of gaza about that a strike that hit a u.n. school in the northern part of the strip where thousands of internally displaced palestinians were sheltering. we have not been able to independent9ly confirm this information, but we have reviewed video circulateing on line that shows a mass casualty situation among those civilians. new video was released by the israelis of drones striking hamas professions concern positions inside gaza, rocket fire still continues 43 days into this conflict. and just an indication that hamas and islam. ic jihad are still able to fire from areas along dad saw. -- gauze ca. the israelis finding new weapons and rockets stored by islam lammic -- islamic jihad store thed inside gaza, rockets use to fire into israel as this conflict continues into its sevenst week. the shifa hospital, a focus of the international community this week, earlier in the week we were there wees reilly forces as they continue to operate in the heart of gaza city. reports this morning indicated the israelis urged palestinians to evacuate shifa that were able to leave, those who are reffing treatment at the hospital and not able to leave, the israeli military says they will be assisted by international organizations, some of that coordination taking place as we speak. i do want the bring your attention to the northern border with lebanon where earlier today 25 rockets were fired into northern israel by hezbollah. at this hour, the israelis are striking back, hitting a number of different positions. it does indicate how often arabian proxies -- iranian proxies remain active, this map showing the 6 is strikes against u.s. assets across the middle east. iranian proxies not just in gaza and lebanon, but also in iraq and syria with, threatening to bring the entire region into a much broader conflict. back to you with. rachel: trey, really quick, are there any updates on the hostages? >> reporter: there aren't many updates on the hostages. a few bodies were found if around the shifa hospital in gaza city. we have other information we're waiting to report out of the respect of the families of these loved ones that have just been waiting for 43 days to get any information about the hostages taken into gaza. it is a dire situation. families are demanding that some sort of deal be cut to try and possibly swap prisoners for hostages or implement some sort of ceasefire that would be temporary just to allow for the release of dozens of hostages. those conversations are taking place at a very high level, but the israelis are looking for a calculation that would allow them to continue their operation against hamas but, of course, bring as many of those israelis home as possible. rachel: thank you, trey. will: thank you. pete: appreciate you. rachel: i don't blame those families. gosh, must be terrible. will: some families in america might be ashamed if they looked at their children's social media the past couple weeks. there's a trend on tiktok of americans who have somehow if found themselves apologizing or embracing or finding themselves fascinated by osama bin laden's letter to america, a letter he wrote after 9/11, planning why he killed -- explaining why he killed 3,000 americans. watch. >> -- right now and go read, it's literally two pages, go read a letter to america. and, please, come back here and just let me know what you think, because i feel like i'm going through an existential crisis right now, and a lot of people are. is so i just is need someone else to be feeling this too. rachel: for a lot of young people, learning about 9/11 is a new thing. it's how the topic of 9/11 if has been removed from the curriculum because they want to be seventive. i remember -- can sensitive. i remember the young americas foundation, my son was part of that, he tried to do on 9/11 a memorial putting 3,000 flags and having a commemoration, and in a catholic school in rural wisconsin that was controversial. one of the secretaries at the school, like, tore down the poster, you know, because it was insensitive to talk about this. if9 and the motivations of the terrorists. now, i think that the motivations aren't as a simplistic as when our government said, you know, they just hate our freedom. we should hate -- have these discussions. and if more of them, it's probably the first time they've thought about any of these ideas, but they have so little education and on this and so many topics that it gets simplified to no tiktok on oppression. the discussion is very, very bad online. pete: yeah. the blame america first crowd has always been out there, but if you'd have told me 20 years ago that our young people would be sharing a lot, millions of them, a letter written by osama bin laden on a communist chinese-owned app which is also transing our kids, that we would go so far so quickly, you wouldn't believe i. but that's exactly what's happened. not only are they -- they're not trying to understand the argument of osama bin laden, they're trying to say, no, america's to blame, israel's to blame. take the word of a terrorist, an a islamist, and celebrate those the as if that that's the side of the story our kids should know. and china relishes this. are i'll. will: i've seen the videos, and they say stuff like read the letter, it's only two pages. it's in the true. i went and read the letter to america -- i don't know if you with happened -- rachel: yeah. i read some of it. will: it's eight pages, actually. and there's some speculation about who might have written this for osama bin laden, because it's pretty fluent in english, it's pretty -- more importantly, it is, it's got your standard islamist stuff about, you know, basically the fall of the morality of the west, you know, i mean, it says in there how it feels about homosexuality, however else. but it also has a your cracker jack box selection of standard the howard's end, you know, neo-marxist, liberal fare. like, it talks about the kyoto protocols like climate change. do you think osama bin laden cares this much about climate change? i should have spoke in the past especially the. do you think osama bin laden cared about climate change? give me a break. the point is, it was designed for this -- rachel: yeah. pete: to indict america. will: and from within. from within. to get those who blame america first or want to see it through a marxist prism. you know, osama bin laden had a point. rachel: yeah. we had stacy washington, she's the host of stacy on the right on siriusxm, she's also an air force veteran. here's what she had to say about it e when we asked her. >> this is all to wage war on the west and especially america who they see as the great satan. there's so much to this. it's intentional, and they're doing this using the tiktokup app which is just a propaganda tool that the ccp uses to teach our children that dancing and all kinds of things that are the really not fruitful for business and for life are important where this chinese tiktok has, you know, students blowing up rockets and doing all kinds of science and math challenges. and so they're using this in concert together to subvert the aim of of the which is we want freedom and liberty and capitalism and freeway markets, and tiktok actually advocates for the ap ott -- opposite of all of that. rachel: yeah. i wish we could have robust conversations about islam and radical islam and the role of america, you know, in other countries, in our foreign policy, in you are military interventions and all this kind of stuff, but you can't have is it in this simplistic way -- will: that's interesting. you know what else is interesting in the convergence of islam and the far left. rachel: yes. will: that's a fascinating. president what do they converge around? who they hate and what they don't like. will: yes. some of it is geopolitical because i think people don't realize the history of the soviet union's embrace with of essentially that side of the world as a buffer against the west, as saves city points out, is a -- stacy points out, is a geopolitical fact of history. pete: no doubt. our enemies of world war ii made the same deals in jerusalem. so there's been this alliance -- will: you're talking about the nazi es -- pete: yeah. expect head of the mosque in jerusalem. will: right. rachel: i think there are third rails, and there's a lot of censorship going on. we need an educated populace, and we need more speech, and the answer comes out in that debate. pete: yeah. i'm for a little bit of cent sr.ship when it comes to tiktok -- will: are you? if. pete: ban it. it's a communist chinese propaganda tool in our country. will: yeah. but it's not just tick texas as the problem -- tiktok. rachel: it's on instagram -- pete: this is a -- will: this is a moment of test for conservatives. i'm going to be real. if you, if you believe in free speech, you have to have able to tolerate speech that you hate -- pete: should you believe a bullhorn from your enemies -- will: no, no, that's why i said this is bigger than tiktok. and it's happening. if we focus on tiktok, we're missing the greatest thing. there's something happening on x as we speak, it's happening on college campuses, and if we believe in free speech, we need to trust our ability to win the debate when those ideas collide. rachel: exactly. pete: no doubt. but inside that, you can still recognize when an organism itself -- will: you're talking about tiktok. pete: tiktok only, is what i'm talking about. rachel: i initially was no tiktok, and i'm not sure where i stand right now. i talked to my daughter who posts conservative videos, her are videos are more censored on instagram than on tick texas. -- tiktok. she says conservative voices are less likely to be censored on tiktok. so again, i'm not saying i understand what the chinese are doing. i get there's this whole other thing going on, but i think it's a lot more nuanced, and i don't know if you shut down tiktok, if that doesn't mean all this other stuff going to happen. not going to happen. pete: i think it will. it's just stuff that you can do. rachel: interesting debate. let's continue that debate if at some point. [laughter] pete: turning now to your headlines, police are expected to give an update on yesterday's deadly shooting at a new hampshire psychiatric hospital. officers say a gunman opened fire in the lobby of the facility killing this security guard. a state trooper later shot and killed the suspect. the hospital is still treating patients but is closed the visitors as police in the. investigate. and travel chaos could be on the horizon as millions plan to travel for thanksgiving of a potential storm could make its way across the country next week. storm the's already drenching parts of florida with over a foot of rain leaving roads flooded. for more on this story, download the fox weather app or stream fox weather on any tv-connected device. and to college football, deion sanders' colorado squad looking to keep their bowl game hopes alive. unfortunately for coach prime, it was all cougars all night. >> here's the return, it's breaking for smithson, number 89, just in. and just in, touchdown. [cheers and applause] pete: as if it could not get any worse for the buffaloes, their star quarterback, the son of coach prime, shah door sanders, was hurt on this play. colorado loses 56-14. turns out it was a lot of sizzle at the top of the season and not looking good. in just hours, michigan takes on maryland without suspended coach jim harbaugh who reportedly traveled9 with the team beginning at 10 a.m. eastern. kickoff is at 12 noon. those are your headlines. will: coming up, an armed homeowner who defended his family in a driveway shootout says he's been tripped -- stripped of his gun permit. ray but first, record illegal immigration, and you're not going to believe how much taxpayer money is going towards the crisis. we're going to talk to congressman august pfluger next on that. ♪ ♪ will: president biden met with mexican president obrador yesterday praising their partnership in tackling the surge of illegal immigrants and drugs crossing our southern border. pete: meanwhile, house republicans released a jaw-dropping report revealing nearly half a trillion of your tax dollars have gone to the border crisis under biden. rachel: congressman august pfluger is with the house homeland security committee and the house foreign affairs committee, and me joins us now. congressman, wouldn't it have just is been cheaper to just build a wall? [laughter] >> well, rachel, absolutely. when you look at the very first quote from the mexican president praising joe biden for not building the wall, being the first president to not build wall, to look for legal pathways, you know, it's kind of the twilight zone because it's clear that the president is not standing up for us, and the mexican president is applauding him for that. ly rhode island -- rachel: right. >> his first job is to stand up for americans. he's clearly not doing that. pete: so where with's that money going when you look at the staggering apt of money? what's e the utility of it? >> yeah. $450 billion, as you mentioned, almost half a trillion to u.s. taxpayers. in texas, $10 billion plus to operate lone star, yuma regional with $26 billion in medical expenses, farmers and ranchers whose properties are being destroyed. and not to mention the cost of crime. in my district we had the unfortunate incident where a family lost their grandmother and a child. this is happening everywhere, and that is costing counties millions of dollars to process those crimes. t just insane. you know what? the dollar amount is staggering. let me make one point though, the intangible of the destruction of the rule of law is something that we will feel for decades to come, and that's really very scary, what biden is doing to us. will: congressman, you know, there was this statement from joe biden during this meeting talking about we've worked on, as you mentioned a moment ago, sort of partnering together on increasing legal pathways into the united states. he talked about restitution. and then you've got amlo saying things like i want to greet our paisanoses, the mexican migrants who are living and making a living in the united states, around 40 million have made the united states their second home, their second country. i'm curious, what kind of partnership are we working on here between mexico and the united states? >> well, president biden is coming at it from a complete perspective of weakness. i mean, the folks that come here legally that work in this country, that do a good job, you know, become citizens, that is wonderful, and and we need to continue to do that. however, when amlo is talking -- what he's really talking about is they're running the trafficking and smuggling operations directly through mexico, and they're not kneeling the brunt of -- feeling the brunt of it, we are. president trump said we're going to put tariffs on you, on all mexican goods coming into the united states if you don't help us, if you don't actually do remain in mexico and help us turn away my grants. that's not happe