>> emily: hello, everyone, this is "outnumbered," i'm emily compagno here with my co-host kayleigh mcenany and harris faulkner and former state department spokesperson and host of morgan ortagus show morgan ortagus and former biden campaign surrogate kevin walling. each day we are getting new horrifying reports of what hamas terrorists have done to israeli women during their final moments on october 7. gruesome assaults of rape from eyewitnesses with details too graphic for us to describe on air. hamas released some female hostages, israeli officials believe 18 others are being held by the terrorist group. u.s. state department says hamas may be refusing to release those women in order to keep them quiet. >> it seems one reason they don't want to turn women over they have been holding hostage, they don't want the women to talk about what happened to them during their time in custody. there is little i put beyond hamas when it comes to treatment of civilians and treatment of women. >> emily: atrocities continue, so does silence from several women's groups who refuse to condemn hamas's heinous acts. several took took to speak out against hamas. >> when i saw the list of woman's rights organizations who have said nothing, i nearly choked. where is solidarity for women in this country and world to stand up for our mothers sisters and daughters. >> rape as weapon of war is crime against humanity, no place in any conflict. >> no matter what flag you are flying, what religion you practice or if you practice none at all, one thing we can agree on, there are exactly no circumstances that justify. do we believe the spokes dlrt person who says rape is prohibited and couldn't happen on october 7 or do we believe the women whose bodies tell us how they spent the last minutes of their lives? who are we going to believe? >> emily: morgan, the thought that question had to be asked is unbearable. >> yeah, what is important to note here, we saw women testifying in new york here at the united nations. there is an organization called un women and you would think un women are for women. it took them two months, they issued a statement to condemn using rape as weapon of war the way hamas used it against israeli women. look on the internet or any social media site and see people calling into question whether women were raped or not. we as united states sit on the board of un women and we gave money to them. this is another organization at the united nations where we need system ammic reform and that is something the u.s. ambassador to united states should be working on behind the scenes. i will give these women credit for speaking out, they are democrats and center left and they will take heat from within their party and base. you see members of congress today, on their twitter, you know who i'm talking about, will not condemn hamas, spreading terrorist propaganda and know what happened on that day. videos are there and they refuse to condemn it. representative pramila jayapal on cnn barely uttered the word condemning rape. they are antisemitism and anti-israel. >> emily: morgan raised a good question, why the heat and do you feel it will be reflected in the ballot come november? to that point, it is so unacceptable, will people depart this party to those on the left with unacceptable views. >> to morgan's point, good to see sheryl and hilly clinton speaking out. i as democrat on this couch, there is no both sidism we have seen from pramila jayapal and other squad members, no equivocating. it is hamas and they are a terrorist organization and horrifying things we are learning about everyday. remember the woman being dragged into the jeep bleeding, we saw what happened, we cannot turn a blind eye, we have to condemn it. there is no but or attacking israel as they were attacked that day. they need to stand firm. >> emily: that is what we could show on air. the silence and deafening and it indicates a lot about so-called women groups and feminists that led the charge during the me too movement that they can get onboard with safely. here is who had no reply, association university, world health organization, planned parenthood, emily's list, i stand with her, i guess unless they are jewish, the national organization of women, this is patently preposterous and for some reason, they feel comfortable residing in silence that expresses complicity with hamas. >> harris: silence is there because the truth would crush us. we find out national organization for women was never for women. they were for politics of the moment, where is hashtag me, too, movement was that for women and help women? 55 days for the un women's group at the un to issue condemnation is silence we can live with, they want to be silent. we know by that list that emily read, they are not on our side. when i say on our side, i mean as women, as mothers, as daughters and grandmothers, any position we hold. do you think they rape those, are you only over 18? we will take that one. no, there were girls. you could see the blood on the woman's pants. talk about this like it happened. if too graphic to speak, can you imagine living or not surviving it? is it propaganda to repeat what hamas did? they had go pros on, they are nazis. they were celebrating that attack. >> harris: they were not technologically gifted, it is a thing with the killers. we can speak it and speak out when we see people not on the side of those who are suffering and are victims. you don't think they rape the palestinian women? how far will pramila jayapal's ignorance go or silence? >> emily: bring in how clearly we with condemn on the couch and the news and description of the vileative horror. why doesn't the white house address congressman pramila jayapal's comments. here is what karine jean-pierre had to say on the vile comments. >> we've been clear what hamas did is reprehensible and we'll be clear about that and think about rape and use of rape as being used as a weapon, that is always reprehensible, full stop and i'll leave it there. >> kayleigh: karine jean-pierre works for a president who is democrat, white house press secretary that represents a democrat and she condemned rape and said i can only speak for the president. when you are the president of the country and leader of your parties, leader of the democrat party. i was pressed by every tom, dick and harry who claimed to be a republican and those words were pinned to the republican president of the united states, it is unacceptable she could not clearly condemn pramila jayapal by name. if you don't condemn her, you stand with her. where is pressing from the press corps? our reporter pressed and followed up, next question about ukraine funding. give me a break, she should be pressed until the president of the united states calls out members of his party. i said yesterday, one side raped women, hamas, one side raped children, hamas, one side burned babies, hamas. when a member of your party cannot say that, give me a break, president biden, you are not standing with the jewish people until you call out the despicable members of your party. >> emily: we are praying for the 18 female hostages to learn and share more of that truth. coming up, the presidents upon tof u.s. colleges are testifying right now before house lawmakers about the surge in antisemitism on campuses across the country. stay with us. -ahh, -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein 30 grams protein, one gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients for immune health. 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(horse neighing) >> harris: the presidents leading top colleges in america are right now facing tough questions from house lawmakers in a hearing about antisemitism on campuses. it has gotten chippy in the room. we want to play this for you. new york congresswoman elise stefanik pressing harvard president claudine gay about the details calling for genocide against jews which took place on her campus. watch this. >> president of harvard, i assume you are familiar with the term intifada; correct? >> i've heard that term, yes. >> you understand the use is call for violent armed resistance and genocide of jews? are you aware of that? >> that type of personal speech is abhorrent to me. >> students chant there is one solution, intifadda resolution and globalize intifada, is that correct? >> i've heard that reckless and hateful language on our campus, yes. >> do you believe that type of hateful speech is contrary to harvard's code of conduct or allowed as harvard? >> we embrace commitment to free expression and give wide birth to views that are objectable and -- >> you and i both know that is not the case, harvard ranked dead last when it came to free speech, are you not aware of that report? >> i reject that characterization. >> the data shows it is true. >> harris: wow, this is the crowd, academic crowd that gave us that speech is violence, from the river to the sea, she knows what it means, but couldn't deannounce it. >> morgan: it is calling for extermination of the jewish people. they set out as stated in their charter, annihilation of the jewish people and we've talked a lot about what is going on on campuses, how chilling for jewish parents to know their children could be locked in rooms and shouted down in class and could be shouted down over wearing a yamika or jewish symbol. many of the universities get forms of american taxpayer money and public funding and many students going to the universities, myself included, needed u.s. government-backed loans to pay for college. congress has a vested interest in regulate thanksgiving and university professors and leadership, their feet need to be held to the fire, they are not doing enough to protect jewish students on campus. >> harris: tammy bruce and i were talking last hour, put in in context. national academics in the united states in 2022 found that the top foreign donor for all u.s. colleges is qatar. 4.7 billion to universities in the united states, october of 2023. what does that mean contextually with what we're seeing to you? >> i think what we've seen play out on college campuses since october 7 has been under the surface until now. we're seeing these crowds on campuses, calling for a two-state solution, two people living peacefully coexisting, the eradication of the entire jewish state and president's role at a university and protection of students on the campus and these university officials have failed in that regard. >> harris: emily, any thoughts on that money? in the context, 4 million coming to our universities here. >> emily: it speaks to continued influence infiltrating foreign powers. look at chinese money coming in, ccp money, i'm not saying that automatically has a negative effect. we must be clear-eyed about potential for and likely influence that is occurring. remember qatar's silence after oct october 7 and now they are our best friend. qatar holds power and they are holding leaders of hamas in their five-star hotel rooms. it permeates our education system and that president says she rejects. reject all you want, that doesn't change the truth you are the last bastion for free speech and we're supposed to adore that diploma and all it represents is racism and anti-asian and now anti-jewish sentiment temperature ask trackable with the money. >> harris: follow different money, talk about universities, what happens if american money starts to dry up, you think claudine gay will be sitting there long? >> kayleigh: i graduated from harvard law school and i have a ring on my finger, it is somethini worked hard to achieve, life-long dream of mine to go to harvard law school and something i'm proud of. when i watched daniel friedman, who is harvard law school, five years to seven years after i was there and he tells the audience and world that he hears from the river to the sea. that when he is in the library, people chase them down and they went to the dei office, their doors are locked. this is someone who deserves safety and deserves to be protected. radicals divided the wall and privileged speech on this side and if you had pro-police speech, you were on the other side. speech was divided, same radicals are more ectreme and it takes administrators saying, you have a right to free speech, you don't have a right to an education that will get you a six-figure job. >> harris: i love how we got to peel back the onion and see who is in charge. if your kid is going to one of the elite colleges and you are busting five jobs to make that happen, you may have a new decision coming up. fbi director revealing to congress the terror threat in the great united states is at an all-time high, a chilling warning next. ♪ if you struggle with cpap... 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