ingraham angle" from washington. thank you for being with us. putting evil in context, that's the focus of tonight's angle. more fallout from the hill testimony from college presidents who have equivocating on the antisemitism atmosphere on their campuses. some of the most revealing and disturbing exchanges are just now being seen by americans. specifically calling for genocide of jews, does that constitute bullying and harassment? >> if directed, it is harassment. >> so yes? >> it is condepend not decision. >> calling for genocide of jews is depending on the context? >> if the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment, yes. >> laura: surely the esteemed harvard university president had a much clearer response. >> at harvard does calling for genocide much jews violate bullying or harassment, yes or no? >> it can be depending on the context? >> what is the context? >> targeted as an individual, crossing into conduct that is bullying, harassment, intimidation, that is actionable conduct and we do take action. so the answer is yes, calling for the genocide of jews violates harvard code of conduct, correct? >> again, it depends on the context. >> it does not depend on the context, the answer is yes and this is why you should resign. >> laura: imagine if an lgbtq coalition felt harassed or targeted by a right-wing mob on the campus and they were forced to flee to classrooms to hide, would president gay call into question the school's code of conduct? we know the answer. she's since written in part calls for genocide against the jewish community or any ethnic group are vile and those who do will be held to account. the grown-ups at harveyard had to tell her she screwed up. premiere university. and mit's sally cornbluff was maybe the best of the bunch, that is not saying much. >> yes or no, calling for genocide of jews does not constitute bullying or harassment? >> but you have heard chants. >> i've heard chants which can be antisemitism. >>-- code of conduct or rules? >> that would be investigated as harassment if pervasive and severe. >> laura: pervasive and severe? if they are saying destroy the jewish people, long live the intifada, how is that not severe? if only conservative students and speakers on campus receive the same benefit of a doubt she is giving pro-hamas protesters, again, we know the answer and never forget what happened when former trump officials are invited to speak to students. [chanting] >> you cancelled an even with tom holman because he worked for president donald trump. why was ahmad amallah let off the hook? >> our approach to speech as i identify followed and guided by united states constitution, which allows for robust perspective. i disagree with the characterization that we treat speech differently. >> laura: a critic, bill ackman summed up by wondering why these presidents still have their jobs. moral and ethical failure pervade certain institutions due in large part to failed leadership. they must all resign in disgrace. if ceo of a company gave similar answer, he or she would be toast within the hour. of course, that is absolutely correct. were any of these women really the most qualified individuals in america to run their respective institutions? doubtful, but we all know they checked enough boxes to leapfrog everyone else in the running for these positions thachl is how you play the game at universities. don't rock the boat and give left wing students and faculty members benefit the l of the doubt. utter disdain demonstrated yesterday mirror how they treat their alumni, as well, many do not approve how things are going on campus. when trying to grow the endowment, they put on show of respectability and excellence on campus. monthly mailings and alumni magazines, most experience campus life after they graduate, it looks slick and nostalgia kicks in and they take out their checkbooks. is there any sense after all this that universities are waking up? i'm not sure unless you think upenn's new initiative is way to combat antisemitism on campus temperature is called conversations for community and dinners across differences. someone was paid to come up with this idea. offer meals free of charge for penn community members allowing them to discuss issues of interest to bring them together. free food, that will keep quiet the long live intifada chants, i'm sure. the white house, walking on eggshells afraid of pro-hamas supporters. they are loud and tech savvy and biden needs their energy in 2024, for sure. today we learn the anti-israel revolt is not just happening in the ivy league, it is happening in the white house itself. dozens and dozens of white house staffers, interns, signed a lead demanding a permanent ceasefire. bottom, they are accusing the biden team for whom they work of aiding and abetting genocide by not demanding immediate end to israeli military operations. think of the tuition bills the parents of these interns paid to produce this warped thinking. that's a lot of money. time for conservatives, liberals, independents to ban together and take back institutions from the incomp at any time administrator and woke fringe holding them hostage. that's the angle. joining me now is vaughn grabegan who resigned back in october. why did you resign? well, laura, i served since 2009 and over that period of time, i found at every turn the board was just a rubber stamp to the chairman of the board. they never disagreed, every vote was unanimous and when it came to this controversy, i was apauled by lack of response of the president of the university and sought to have my fellow board members speak up and say something that would put her in a position to have to change her views and do something. i was told by my board members to stay on the board and wait for an emergency meeting that was called, which i did and i found it was the same old, same old, so i quit on the basis that if i stayed, i would be under fiduciary responsibility not to speak out, as an outside person now i can speak out about the horrible things going on and call for resignation of the board president and chair. >> laura: do you agree with bill ackman that these presidents who testified on the hill yesterday, couldn't answer simple questions, should they resign? >> i can tell you this, laura, there is no context in which the genocide of the jewish people can be condoned, it is nothing more than harassment and hateful and malicious talk and it cannot be condoned, unlike the position of the university presidents and certainly not conducive to learning for poor students who attend colleges and universities that were displayed in congress yesterday. >> laura: kids are waiting to hear -- yeah. we have a delay here. let me just -- kids are waiting to hear right now who applied early from a lot of these schools, whether they have been admitted or not early and there is angst among kids, am i going to get into school. what do you say to them given the process going on right now, where should they focus, on the places they go or what they do once they are there? >> to be honest, to bolster that point, antidefamation league did a study and in the study of jewish students on american colleges, they concluded more than half don't feel safe on their college or university campus and 75% of those kids feel they have been involved in or witnessed an act of antisemitism. if you are the parent of a jewish student in ninth, tenth or 11th grade, wouldn't want to send your kid to one of those universities. >> laura: what do you say to board members at mit, upenn, harvard, what do you say to them today? >> it's time to step up and be counted and not just serve on the boards to have a prestigious thing to put on your resume or so you can tell your friends i'm on the board of harvard or penn or whatever. it is time to be a working trustee and speak up when things are not right and not rubberstamp what goes on. just because chairman of the board or president says it is the thing to do, in your heart, if you know it is wrong, you need to step up and say it the wrong thing. >> laura: you are an entrepreneur and entrepreneurs have more courage than ceos. thank you, hope to talk to you soon. josh hawley described qualified briefing on ukraine most heated he's ever been part of. he's here next with all the details. stay there. ♪to my astonishment.♪ ♪my doc gave me a script i got it done without a delay.♪ ♪i screened with cologuard and did it my way.♪ cologuard is a one-of-a-kind way to screen for colon cancer that's effective and non-invasive. it's for people 45 plus at average risk, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider for cologuard. ♪i did it my way!♪ what is cirkul? 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just imagine how much higher it's going to be not just in national treasure, but in american blood. if he starts going after one of our nato allies. the american boots would very much have to be involved if putin is left to have strategic victory in ukraine and then perhaps goes after one of our nato allies. >> laura: how dare he speculate about our nation's blood that must be spilled. jing knee now missouri senator josh hawley. senator, the administration announced another aid package today. $175 million in arms and equipment. and they want billions more, of course. and they are trying to beg congress for it. if europe is so threatened, why is europe not ponying up the money here? >> yeah. exactly right. i mean, this is in europe's backyard. this is a european issue first and foremost. and we need to be honest with them, laura, it's time for the europeans to take the lead on defense of their own continent. not least we need to look to china who is our biggest overseats threat. we need to secure our own southern border that brings me to my biggest beef here which is that we don't seem to have any money to do anything for americans. i mean, we can't secure our border. we can't any of our national security imperatives. yet, we have unlimited money according to joe biden for ukraine. it's crazy exactly backwards. >> i guess late today, early tonight, in congress they blocked aid to israel and ukraine because that's tied together over this border dispute trying to tie it all together in one package. tell us about that. >> well, i mean, here's the thing. we should have passed aid to israel a long time ago. our ally israel is fighting for their existence. we should have done that immediately. the biden administration doesn't really care about israel aid. that's the bottom line. just like they don't really care about the border. they put those things together with ukraine, which is their top priority, apparently over everything else. laura, the border is wide open. we had a record number of terrorists on the terrorist watch list come across the border last year. and that's just the ones that we know about. yet, what's the administration want? more money for ukraine. it's ukraine, ukraine, ukraine. i have got to tell you i for one am not going to vote for a dime more for ukraine until the united states security, our border security is actually made whole and made right. >> laura: ukraine thing is over. they know it's over. they are treating it as a political liability and they are trying to manage it. to me, it's obvious. senator, your colleague, senator chuck schumer decided to drop a conservative president's name it would be insult to our ukrainian friends fighting their lives against russian autocracy and could go down as a major responsibilities. rolling in his grave. own party vladimir putin roll through europe. >> laura: senator, i worked for president reagan. using reagan as a convincing argument. i must have missed the part when ukraine was a member of nato. >> yeah, and this from the party that as i distinctly remember was pro-gorbachev, pro-soviet for decades. they criticized reagan constantly. this is just a joke. it's all a joke. listen, you have democrat senators saying that our southern border is just a domestic political consideration. think about that. a domestic political consideration as if the drugs coming across the border, laura, aren't killing people many in this country by the tens of thousands. as if the human trafficking and sex trafficking isn't totally out of control. it's outrageous. our security is threatened right now on our border. they would much rather spend money on ukraine's border than our own. i say again it's exactly backwards. it's insane. >> laura: have you ever heard senator schumer as exercised about america's security in our southern border? as he is about ukraine or frankly mitch mcconnell your colleague? i have never heard them in any way as passionate as they are about ukraine about the united states. >> no to both. absolutely not. and, listen, one of the reasons we are in the predicament we are in now republican leadership has been happy to go along with the president and shovel money to ukraine with no strings attached, no accountability, no oversight whatsoever. we are now, our border is wide open. we have got no understanding of how our money has been spent in ukraine and they are begging for more. so you bet. i mean, the congressional leadership of both parties is to blame here along with the president. and that's why it's time to say no. it's time to make american priorities the true priority here. >> laura: senator, great to see you don't. joe biden gets the most animated he has been in years over, what? details, next. ♪ print. mom, we're gunna be late. i know, sweetie. print! come on, print! out of ink again? i need to print these listings now. i had to print my homework. these tiny, expensive cartridges are costing me a fortune! you still printing with these? 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how about his meeting with chinese energy company or 20 plus times hunter put joe on speaker phone with hunter's business associates? hunter, devon archer, burisma board member and someone's first name who rhymes with slow. yeah. mike, this reminds me of what gavin newsom did at the debate against ron desantis, deny you shut california down. no, i never did that. how do you deny it at this point? >> joe biden must think the photos are lying between joe biden and business associates and lying with testimony under oath from tony bobulinski and devon archer and schwerin and bank statements where it shows money coming from china to hunter and going into joe biden's bank account, all lies according to joe biden. seems the person who is lying is probably joe biden. >> laura: this does not pass the straight face test at this point. he obviously is in constant contact with his son's business associates and the media had to finally say well, cnn, there are photos out there. >> mollie: amazing to watch how the lies changed over time. i never had anything to do with the business. okay, i was involved, never too involved. a little involved, i never took money. there was money, there wasn't that much money. now back to i was never involved. there is a glifrn in the system and he's going back to 2016. there are receipts, video, testimony from multiple different people and a house interested in looking into the biden family business. >> laura: mike, what do you think of the hunter biden testimony, some say it will be a big backfire on republicans and will be behind closed doors and don't want to risk what might not pan out for what the gop has been arguing about his father's relationship with his work and overseas interests? >> there is no higher duty for the house of representatives than to figure out whether the president of the united states is compromised by tens of millions of dollars in