normandy, france tuesday good afternoon everybody in martha maccallum and missus 'the story' live from the american cemetery in normandy france where tomorrow we will commemorate the 80th anniversary of operation overlord, d-day, was in 150,000 allied forces landed on the beaches here to turn back the nazi hold on to europe. later this hour, another cure of world war ii. 96-year-old ronald roll do, i just 16 he found a way around the navies age requirement, bravely fighting and surviving injuries as a teenage boy. he says you comes to normandy because of the friends that he lost and also because of some of the nightmares he still has about his fallen hero buddies. >> people might think you're squarely when you talk about of the guys to back up from the grave but it's realistic to me and i'm just lucky. a lot of the guys were not as lucky as i was. and i appreciate every day of it and i honor all the guys in the pacific theatre, m. just honored my brothers over here. >> martha: it more of the interview later but for us is good to the breaking news right now. [ ♪♪ ] testimony is underway and hunter biden's gun trial, his ex-wife leading the courthouse a short time ago after she was on the stand, she testified she routinely searched his car for drugs. hunter is accused of illegally buying a gun while abusing drugs in 2018. president biden he will not comment specifically on the charges but he is praising hunter's "resilience in the face of adversity". first lady jill biden was back in the courtroom in the front row right behind hunter, judge jeanine pirro said the first lady is trying to "send a message to the jurors". she's standing by but first let's start with the latest, live out of the courthouse in wilmington, hello david. >> hello, the first lady still in the courthouse, she's been there all week, i sat 10 feet behind her, she is paying attention, she put her head down a few times comforting hunter biden's wife. right now on the stand within the last five minutes amanda named gordon cleveland, the local employee at the gun store that is sold hunter biden at that gun in question back in october of 2018. of course hunter on trial for allegedly lying on the federal form when he said no, he was not addicted to drugs at the time, the woman with the black hair in the illustration done by our artist, her name is that we, she's a former stripper that was in a relationship with hunter biden, she first met hunter in december 2017 when she gave him a private dance at a new york strip club. she said over the following months he continues to smoke crack roughly every 20 minutes at times. she told the jury demand from atlantic city, in the new york they stayed together their, then to los angeles taking a month-long residence at the high-end hotel château marmont. she is also says that hunter gave her a coded on her phone that was good for five minutes or she could withdraw large amounts of cash from an atm machine in his account. she said she did the same with the drug dealers twomak now kathryn buhl who was under his ex-wife who he shares children's with, she was on the stand earlier, she saw multiple crack pipes over the time, she says she had to leave the relationship. you mentioned the first lady jill biden on the front row paying close attention, i want to play a clip of hunter biden's audiobook played yesterday but still deals with the overall drug addiction. >> it crack takes into the darkest recesses of your soul. as well as the darkest corners of every community. >> prosecutors say this gun form is central to the case, firearm at form 4473, there is a no jack-in-the-box that is the part of the case, hunter's attorney says that is not clear if hunter even check that a box and there might be some chain of custody issues. >> martha: okay,, thank you very much. let's bring in judge jeanine pirro, cohost of the five, great to have you with us tonight. as david just told us, the man who sold him the gun is currently on the stand but we heard today from catherine beall, his former wife. let's pull up some things from what it she testified today, she said in 2015, 2019, which augustine boxes -- encompasses the spirit, she would search hunter's car for drugs when she would lend the car to her daughter's, she wanted to make sure they were not driving with the drugs. asking to confirm she was checking his car for drugs in 2018, she said yes. you're taken what we heard today? >> judge jeanine: i think what we're seeing here is a myriad of circumstantial evidence in addition to direct evidence from a defendant's own mouth in terms of what the journey -- jury is hearing from the audio version of this book. it simply cooperates each and every element of the indictment in this case. this is not a difficult case to prove, avenue identity, people in my office have done it. the question is whether or not, and this is what i think is so interesting, whether or not the presence of jill biden, even for the jury selection which is very unusual, family members usually come in for the trial. but here is jury selection angela biden is there every day and we just started she's putting her arm around about shoulder of hunter biden's wife, we have a solid front in delaware in this courtroom and they are singling that the biden family which is a very powerful family that everybody has apparently heard about and know somebody who knows, is one and that is very on top of this and is not going to forget what is going on. while they are trying to do here martha, is there trying to overlook the fact there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt no matter what i below tries to say. but they are trying to go to the jury to maybe nullify the verdict which it simply means jury may believe the case has been proven to their satisfaction, to everybody beyond a reasonable doubt but they will cut him loose for any reason. it could be maybe they think he has paid enough. but the prosecution because of the consequence of this ridiculous deal that they tried to pass in front of a federal judge, the same judge they are trying to this case in front of, it was so bizarre and so beyond the pale, they not have to prove every element of the case and they are doing that. >> martha: one of the areas they can find to open the aperture a reasonable doubt is if this person on the stand right now, who had filled out of the gun form and sold him the gun, of this person says, while, sometimes i fill out parts of it, maybe i filled it out, e. with that's why i below has up their sleeves. they want to go through with this trial. they are not trying to plead guilty which some people thought they should just do. >> judge jeanine: at that they should play guilty as all. abbey is trying to pull a rabbit out of the house by saying the guy from the gun store apparently after-the-fact filled in some number, in no foot was a license number or what it was, not essential to the issue before the jury which is whether or not hunter biden lied when he said he was not a user of unlawful drugs and not addicted. >> martha: we will see. you never know with juries. nobody knows that a better than you, good to see it, thank you very much. great to have you with us. >> judge jeanine: bye-bye. >> martha: and honor. always good to see. for the first time here in fox news, former attorney general bill barr will join us to react to the fallen presidents trumps conviction in a case that he has called an abomination. we will see what you says. is a quick. 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>> while the story you are talking about on the wall street journal was written by reporters i know and respect and publishing a paper that are read in respect. even the most talented among us occasionally swing and strike out. bryce harper even strikes out now and again and i think they got this wrong because the data did not use quotes from those of us who served with president biden who know him, who have had the opportunity up close and personal in it meetings in the white house or advance publicly or privately, to give affirmation that he is sharp, he is engaged and he is commanding in the poll you just showed reflects the fact that there has been a lot of coverage of minor slips, of small ways in which president biden reflects the fact that all of us have demanding lives in public service sometimes misspeak. i struck a little coverage there is of the yawning gap between president biden and former president trump who also has frequent missteps when he missed it and advise who he is talking to her what he's talking about it, but says things that are fundamentally untrue. the bigger gap is in their character to make, in their values of, in one of these say about american veterans, about the choices they lay out over how they would govern if elected, and how they have demonstrated respect for the rule of law and understanding of the importance of the democracy that the veterans and d-day fought for. >> martha: right. i do want to get to that with you quickly. i would say this, these polls are time and time again showing the same thing, is that people have concerns. >> other shown to thing martha -- >> martha: you know, i have to give people credit, for saying what they say when they look at a tv screen, when they listen to an interview. we will see what the voters think in five months. for these things do keep coming up and if you think the pieces unfair and he which they wish -- would have shown more of the or prospective. i just want to give you 30 seconds if i make, spent holding on d-day tomorrow. at the american cemetery? >> thank you martha kahnapace part of a bipartisan delegation that went to taiwan and singapore to ensure our partners and allies in the indo pacific, president biden has been a very strong leader and pulling together stronger and more capable partnerships with our allies. at that cemetery where 17,000 americans are buried was a sombra moment for me to reflect on all the sacrifices in the second world war. like us in our allies around the world. >> martha: these cemeteries are a permanent and everlasting monument to the sacrifices that heroes have made for as, and we cannot forget those sacrifices every single day of our lives thought that we will do here. thank you i get to see. see you soon. >> thank you martha student former attorney general william barr details what he thinks about a former president trumps conviction here in new york and what he expects is likely to come next >> martha: former president trump's lawyers today asking the judge in his in new york city trial to live the gaggle order now that trial is over, they say they never agreed, and "now that the trial is concluded, of the concerns articulated by the government and the court cannot justify continued restrictions on a first amendment rights of president trump. so the manhattan das office was finding "the court has an obligation to protect the integrity of these proceedings in the fair administration of justice at least through the sentencing hearing and the resolution of any post trial motions coming from the da office. without spring and former attorney general, william barr, great to have you with us. want to get your thought on that gag-order but first i would like to get your reaction, this case was built in a very flimsy indictment, read surprise when the 34 guilty verdicts came d down? >> i wasn't particularly surprised but aside from the very start of this was an abomination, and i was surprised they went ahead with the case. really there was nothing there, there was no crime? they couldn't articulated after after the defense rested its case. about the whole thing was a travesty, wasn't surprised by the verdict because the way the case was conducted, was never really any discipline on trying to make the prosecutor establish what the elements of the crime were, it was assumed from the beginning there was some kind of federal code -- federal election campaign violation which there was not. >> martha: you know, when i asked people reaction to this, it kind of goes all over the spectrum but what we're seeing in some of the polling as well and the jury, kamala harris out of the jury spoke the prosecution had an opportunity to lay out their case, how does that make you feel so who cares deeply about the justice system in this country? >> i think this is exhibit different exhibit no. 1 of the system of justice that is becoming more and more evident, answer want to point out that what this is due to our body of politics and due to a country? this case be overruled, there were just multiple errors and violations of constitutional rights, andy mccarthy and jonathan turley has definitely you discussed on your show. this will eventually be overruled after the election. what happens if that is a close election and joe biden squeaks through, and then in the cases overruled? have the country's going to this was a stolen election. and again, this is a grave injustice and deserves to the country. >> martha: speaking with a lot of veterans here,, sadly to a person they are how concerned they are about the system of justice in the united states, the leadership, is probably the most unsettling thing ever heard since i've been here, so much inspiration and most of it. let me ask you about a six my, is a town to live that gag-order because they really seem to like the gag-order and they have michael cohen mouthing off about it the children of the trump family, stormy daniels that she wants to make trump into punching the bag for woman victims. they are not silenced at all. >> that's right. and i think the president's lawyers are correct, the whole purpose of this gag-order was to protect the integrity of the process, to make sure that trial was not disrupted by what was said. at the is now over negative verdict has been delivered, now everybody out of there is talking about it including michael cohen and stormy daniels and the president like anybody else is the right to defend himself and as a rule of public opinion -- into the court of public opinion especially running for the presidency of the united states. you should be able to attack the charges, to assert the witnesses against him were not telling the truth and point out all the flaws in the case, and some of the rulings that were inexplicable. >> martha: given what you have seen quickly if you can, what he expected the sentencing? >> i hope he doesn't do what they usually do, with the left usually does which is go too f far. and either deny him his freedom or impose a severe gag-order on him. i think again it was sort of -- it would affect people's attitudes towards the fairness of the selection. >> martha: we will see, hopefully we will speak to you around that day which always everybody will be watching intently. former attorney general, always good to see,'s we think for coming on today. >> thank you. >> martha: president biden taking a swipe at a major u.s. ally as he prepares to commemorate d-day here and "to feed dictators he says" part of oval what he wants recognize here, when you comes to normandy. that will happen tomorrow mid day, early in the morning for you at home. 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