justification for the kind of intervention that government is making in the economy at the moment, that would be it. if you don't -- without some kind of change to those incentives on individuals, plainly the incentive is to be thrifty and that's ultimately could be bad for the economy. >> john authers, thank you very much from the financial times. north carolina state workers who are overweight and smoke may be the new target as a way to get the state out of debt. north carolina is going to tax state workers who fit this profile. it's an effort meant to help offset rising health care costs, but some obviously are saying this one goes a little too far. ron mott has the story from raleigh, north carolina. >> reporter: good day from the state capital in north carolina. big debate under way about weight, the weight of public employees here in the statehouse, current and former employees are now going to be required to pay more for health coverage if they are deemed overweight by the state. here's how it works,