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referring to as massage parlors. tonight eight people are dead, at least half the victims said to be asian women. this has brought out a huge police response in the atlanta metro region, as you might imagine. we don't know anything further about possible motive as of yet. one custody right now, eight are dead. this ongoing story tonight. we will keep an eye on it. also this evening, the nypd is confirming to us they are deploying officers to asian communities in and around the city of new york out of an abundance of caution following these atlanta shootings. eight dead tonight in atlanta. now, we turn to what was day 56 of the biden administration. we have brand-new revelations tonight about what vladimir putin and the kremlin were up to when it came to ensuring the 2020 election ended with the defeat of joe biden and the re-election of donald trump. the director of national intelligence has released a report on how moscow tried to carry out in effect a sequel to its 2016 election interference that was less right knee on actual hacking and cyberattacks and focused more on the people close to trump. the report says putin and the kremlin, quote, authorized and conducted influence operations against the 2020 u.s. presidential election aimed at denegrating president biden and the democratic party supporting former president trump, undermining public confidence in the electoral process and exacerbating social political divisions in the u.s., a key element of moscow's strategy was its use of proxies linked to russian intelligence to push influence narratives, including misleading or unsubstantiated allegations against president biden. u.s. media organizations, u.s. officials, and prominent u.s. individuals, including some close to former president trump and his administration. the report declines to name names, but as "the washington post" reports, the mention of individuals close to the former president, quote, appears to reference trump's personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, whose repeated meetings with a suspect russian agent came under scrutiny by u.s. officials. the report from the dni said iran also sought to influence the election to hurt trump's re-election chances while china didn't bother to get in the game at all, contradicting the former president's frequent assertions. the justice department and homeland security also released their latest report on claims we heard after the election about foreign governments owning or trying to manipulate voting machines or vote counts. >> we're using a foreign company that is owned by venezuelans who are close or were close to chavez, are now close to maduro, have a history -- they were founded as a company to fix elections. >> what we're really dealing with here and uncovering more by the day is the massive influence of communist money through venezuela, cuba, and likely china in the interference with our elections here in the united states. >> the president's lawyers alleging a company called dominion, which they say started in venezuela with cuba money, a backdoor is capable of flipping votes. >> the justice department and homeland security found, quote, those claims were not credible. meanwhile, president biden was on the road today visiting a flooring company in chester, pennsylvania, taking up the covid relief plan. he's coming under increasing pressure to deal with growing migration to the u.s. border with mexico. secretary of homeland security says the u.s. is approaching a two-decade high in illegal border crossings. tonight biden spoke to abc news and rejected the idea that his policies may be leading to the rise in illegal border crossings. >> we're sending back people -- first of all, the idea that joe biden said come because i heard the other day that they're coming because they know i'm a nice guy. >> they're saying this? >> yeah. well, here's the deal, they're not. >> do you have to say quite clearly don't come? >> yes. i can say quite clearly don't come while we're in the process of getting set up. don't leave your town or city or community. >> there will no doubt be more questions for biden on the border situation when he holds his first formal news conference march 25th. tonight his predecessor, who left office with an incomplete wall in place and then some, weighed in on the border situation and on his future plans. >> it is a crisis like we've rarely had, and certainly we've never had on the border. but it's going to get much worse. >> are you considering 2024? >> well, based on every poll, they want me to run again, but we're going to take a look and see. first steps first, we have to see what we can do with the house. i think we have a very good chance of taking back the house. i think we have a chance to do better in the senate. we need leadership in the senate, which, frankly, we don't have. >> we're also keeping an eye on developments concerning new york governor andrew cuomo. he is facing multiple allegations of sexual harassment and inappropriate conduct. there have been several calls for his resignation, including from both new york senators. earlier this evening, president biden made his strongest comments to date. >> let me ask you about governor cuomo of new york. i know you said you want the investigation to continue. if the investigation confirms the claims of the women, should he resign? >> yes. i think he probably will end up being prosecuted too. >> with that, let's bring in our lead-off guests on this tuesday night, phil rucker, pulitzer prize winner, correspondent for "the washington post." claire mccaskill, former democratic senator from the great state of missouri, and malcolm nance, veteran author and a veteran of naval esintelligence, special ops and cybersecurity, 36 years working in counterterrorism. earlier this year he testified before congress on domestic terrorism. given your résumé, you are where i would like to begin tonight. this report today reminds us how close our democracy came, that's constant wording too. it comes every day. and also reminds us where the talking points came from that we heard out of the mouth of our president and the people around him. >> you know, this report is seminal in another way. this is the second time in less than four years the u.s. intelligence community has warned that we were attacked again. this time with less direct operations using cyber tools as opposed to what they did in 2016, which was actually to create the narrative. they used more traditional human intelligence tools in this one by an ex-kgb officer who ran spies when he was in the kgb, he used an associate to send information to rudy giuliani and created a narrative for them to use against now-president biden and his family. and they ran with it. giuliani was into it before the ukraine scandal. all of this we now find out was a component of the kremlin itself and russian military and clandestine intelligence services, and americans were neck deep in it. >> claire mccaskill, used to be something like this would upset all 100 members of the u.s. senate, but that's not going to be the case tomorrow, is it? we further learned in this that this was not just out to get trump re-elected. this was out to help the republican party writ large. >> yeah. you know, i was thinking about it when i was reading the report today that there was a time not too long ago that this would have been an earthquake. this would have been seismic. it would have been so big. and let's just say what rudy giuliani is. he's a treasonous traitor. he's also a clown, but he's a treasonous traitor clown. because that is guy who was working directly with our adversaries, another country, to influence our democracy. and he was a willing participant as was ron johnson, as were many others that played into putin's hand in this bold and as yet unpunished act of war against the strongest democracy in the world. they are trying to bring democracies to their knees and they are willing to do anything to get it done, including what this report laid out so clearly. >> phil rucker, you famously covered the trump white house, been there, survived that, and wrote about it. what did the russians understand about the people around this president, the former president, and their ability for garbage in, garbage out to spread their lies? >> well, a couple things that they may be, brian. by the way, they learned this over the course of the four years of this presidency. they may be that there are a lot of inputs to president trump. you didn't have to go through any sort of formal policy apparatus or even officials of the u.s. government. you could get people like rudy giuliani, you could bend rudy giuliani's ear and all of a sudden have a pipeline directly to the president of the united states because that's how donald trump operated in office. they also learned, the russians did, how gullible trump and many of his advisers were. they would believe what these russian agents would say if they thought it would help trump politically. that's what happened here with a lot of this misinformation about joe biden and about the biden family. trump, remember, in 2020 in those months leading up to the election was behind in virtually all of the polls. he was desperate for some sort of a hail mary to reverse his election hopes and to gain an edge over joe biden because he had struggled so much with the coronavirus pandemic and managing that in the minds of voters. and so they would grasp onto information. there was a period in the summer and fall where trump would hang on to any new discovery relating to hunter biden, whether it was true or not, and the russians knew how easy it would be to try to feed information directly to the president through rudy giuliani. >> malcolm, at your suggestion, i follow one or more twitter so-called breaking news sites that we know to be affiliated with the russian point of view, if not full-on funding. it's fascinating, depressing to watch, right now they're into attacking vaccines. if someone gets a cough after the astrazeneca vaccine, they will point it out. as you have pointed out on this broadcast, a sick adversary is easier to have your way with than a well adversary. russians also have an interest in getting their vaccine to market in europe. so tell our viewers how to be better consumers of what they see. this disinformation campaign is not going to go away because our government has mentioned it in a report. >> no, it's not going to go away at all. this is going to take a complete re-engineering of american cyber hygiene. by the changing of the administrations we've taken the first step. one of the things that is absolutely important to the other channels that have a more propagandaistic leaning which are operated by russia, russia, which is adored by people in the right wing in the united states, is the very fact that they craft a message, which is negative to the united states but positive to donald trump and positive to russia. and it all goes to their strategic goals. look, vladimir putin was a career kgb officer not for a reason. he never let go of the goals of dismantling liberal democracy. he himself said liberal democracy is finished and they need to foster autocracy around the world. the republican party agrees with this. so all the messaging that you're going to see from overseas and the messaging that they amplify in the united states to hurt america will always have this message. one last point, brian. we may actually be able to see a direct arc from this report to the shooting that happened in atlanta today because the chinese sat back and were looking for stability. but the russians have been amplifying the message from the trump administration that all liberals are members of the communist chinese party and that the chinese attacked us. we saw this multifold attack on asian citizens in the united states. it is incestuous and it is all connected. >> claire mccaskill, back we jump into the cesspool of politics in washington, d.c. though you've done nothing to deserve this, please join us in watching your buddy, mitch mcconnell, from today. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> nobody serving in this chamber can even begin -- can even begin to imagine what a completely scorched-earth senate would look like. everything that democrat senate did to presidents bush and trump, everything the republican senate did to president obama would be child's play compared to the disaster that democrats would create for their own priorities if -- if they break the senate. >> so claire mccaskill, is that a fancy and threatening way of saying to the democrats on this filibuster argument be careful what you wish for? >> well, that's what he's trying to do, but i've got news for mitch mcconnell. he kind of broke the senate. he's the one that has used the rules in a way they were never intended to be used. and he is done it with gleeful abandon over and over and over again. the senate has become broken. regular order is gone. there's not debate. there's not amendments. it is just a mere shadow of what it used to be. so the question is, should you have to stand up and own your obstructionism? he's bragging here that they would be the ultimate obstructionists if there's any reform of the filibuster. well, that's not going to be a very smart thing to do politically. that's not going to garner him the hearts and minds of american voters. that's not going to win the day for the republican party. so a lot of this is an empty threat, but the bottom line is we need to reform a process so that if somebody wants to obstruct, they own it, and that the american people can see who's doing it and figure out why. and then make their judgment on election day. i don't think that will turn out well for mitch mcconnell's party. >> phil rucker, his phone interview with fox news tonight, trump seemed to have a rare moment of candor talking about the drive for voting rights in the democratic party versus all the voter suppression we're seeing in so many states across the country. he said in effect it's going to be really hard to get republicans elected if the democrats are successful. what's the chance that he is joining forces with republicans on this issue we know he cares about for all the wrong reasons? >> you know, brian, i assume he's on board with the republicans on this issue. by the way, this is not a new issue for the republican party or former president trump. it's been part of the strategy for republicans going back at least a generation to try to use their majorities in certain state legislatures to use the law, to use the courts to find ways to effectively make it more difficult for working people and people of color to vote in certain states in this country. trump tried to great effect in 2016 and again in 2020 in his campaign to do what he could to enact those restrictions. what you saw in a state like georgia, for example, is the power on the other side in blocking a lot of those efforts and driving up registration and getting the people to the polls despite what republican leaders in those states were doing to try to prevented that. that's the dynamic we're going to see playing out here over the next two years heading into the 2022 midterm elections. but certainly i think we can expect to see former president trump leading the republican charge there. >> our big three guests on this tuesday night, philip rucker, claire mccaskill, malcolm nance, can't thank the three of you enough for help us us out at the top of the hour. coming up, could a covid vaccine for children keep schools open? 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