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what it is, dangerous. we must demand more of our leaders. and on that note, i wish you a peaceful and a good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thank you for staying up late. see you again tomorrow. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tonight on all in. >> reports of, tonight, do i hit somebody? >> chaos and violence on the hill. >> it was a clean shot to the kidneys, and i turn back and there was kevin. >> as the maga congress keeps brawling. >> you look like a smurf. you're just going around on this stuff. >> the republican front runner keeps advertising fascism. >> i am not going to comment on candidates in their campaign messaging. >> tonight, what on earth is going on here? >> statements are fiction at best. what? >> answer the question, please. >> then, an emergency hearing for protective order georgia as witness videos keep leaking. >> he said the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances. we're just going to stay in power. >> and the incredible -- on the march on washington, as the calls to rescue hostages grows and the destruction in gaza continues. when all in starts, right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. it was a chaotic and oddly violent day on capitol hill. republicans dysfunction, stance, and anger becoming more and more extreme. ironically, this all happened amidst what should be a real success for house republicans. the new speaker, mike johnson, louisiana, just managed to pass a continuing resolution funding the government until early next year. that avoids a looming shutdown. that's good, you would think. but crucially, more democrats voted for that then members of johnson's own party. and jake sherman of -- news put it, democrats saved him. dangerous territory for republican speaker say mccarthy kevin. mike johnson and pretty quickly the lesson that the only way to keep the government functioning, something we've been saying forever, is to basically ignore part of his own caucus and work with democrats. and that decision today, and the kind of oddly anticlimactic vote in congress, along the lines we all knew it would happen, that may have something to do with the rage that emerged all over capitol hill today in environment that speaker johnson himself described as a, quote, pressure cooker. and the first and most notable incident involved mike johnson 's predecessor. remember that guy? that's the former speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy, turfed out over a month ago. this morning, in clear view of at least one reporter, mccarthy appears to have assaulted a member of his own gop conference. npr congressional correspondent claudia gross alice posted this firsthand account, quote, have never seen this on capitol hill. while talking to congressman nash tim burchett after the republican conference meeting, former speaker mccarthy walked by with his detail and mccarthy shoved burchett. burchett lunged toward me. i thought it was a joke. it was not. and a chase ensued. she also recorded video of the interaction, which i am going to play in full. before that, a warning. all of the clips, low lights that we're gonna play you from the hill today are so cringing [laughter] that you want to turn away a first. but it's such a wild window into what's going on. you won't want to take your eyes and ears of them. here's what happened when kevin mccarthy exited that meeting and encountered tim burchett of tennessee in the hallway. >> i wanted to check in on the conference, how it went, it sounds like it went back and forth. >> i think it went all right. sorry, kevin, why do elbow me in the, back kevin? hey, kevin, you got only got? chuck. >> has he done that before? >> now. >> he. that's a new move. >> hey given, why do walk by me an elbow me in the back? you've got no guts. you did so they said there, the reporter said it, right there. what kind of chicken moves that? you're pathetic, man. you are sympathetic. what a jerk. you need security, kevin. anyway. >> anyway. >> a short while later, burchett explained what happened in more detail telling reporters he believed the salt was intentional. >> i was treated interview first and kevin mccarthy walked by an elbowed me in the kidneys, and walked by. it kind of caught me off guard. it's a little different than anywhere else. and so i moved forward. i fell forward. >> on purpose or not an accident? >> on purpose, ma'am. 435 members of congress, eight of us voted against him. -- publicly calling me out. he didn't see any cameras, he didn't think it would -- >> for his part, mccarthy denied the whole thing, claiming it was a tight area where they may have bumped shoulders by accident. >> did you elbow him? >> no, i do not elbow him. i do not double. i would not hit him in the kidney. 85, you are down there, right? not a big hallway. so i'm walking out, i should come after you guys report saying, did i hit somebody? bruce westman and i were walking down. i guess a reporter was interviewing burchett or something. i guess our shoulders had. burchett runs up to me afterwards. i don't know what he was talking about. i did not hit the guy, i do not kidney punch him. >> you didn't shout him? >> no. >> but the reporters say it looked like you intentionally hit him. >> okay, not a place. show me a reporter who saw that. ask bruce westerman. no, i did not. if i would get somebody they would know i hit them. >> he said he was in pain that you hit him so hard in the kidneys. >> oh, come on now. >> that's what he said. >> that explosion was met with a lot of skepticism especially in light of recent accusation by adam kinzinger that mccarthy shoved him on two occasions. take a second to think about how insane this is. kevin mccarthy is alleged to, in view of a reporter, appears to have, like, elbowed in the kidney a colleague he was mad at. that is a wild thing to do. a grown man in a workplace. can you imagine doing that in your place of work? anywhere? congressman matt gaetz of florida never want to see a new cycle go by without joining it, while this request for a house ethics committee investigation into kidney punch gate today. and then on the other side of capitol hill, we're not talking about this here, we almost saw another confrontation come to blows. this took place in the middle of a health education labor and pensions committee hearing when republicans senator markwayne mullin of oklahoma brought up his online before the witness, the president of teamsters labor union, shawn o'brien. sanders had to step in. >> he pretends he self-made. what a clown. fraud. always has been. always will be. quit the tough guy act in the senate hearings. you know where to find me. any place, anytime, cowboy. sorry, this is the time, this is the place, you wanna run your mouth, we're two consenting adults, we can finish it here. >> okay, that's fine, perfect. >> you wonder what? now >> i'd love to do it. now >> stand you about. up >> you stand your butt up. >> oh, stop it. sit down. come down. you're an united states senator. sit down, please. >> you are a united states senator. sit down, sit down, united states editor. that senator, by the way, former mixed martial arts fire eater, refused to back down, he kept trying to set a place in time for the fills occult occasion between the two men. >> you said anytime, any place. >> what's your question? >> except the challenge. >> what challenge? >> you said anytime, any place. i'm accepting yours. >> what? challenge >> april 30th. how about we do it for charity and smoking guns and tulsa, oklahoma. >> no physical confrontations. here >> you want to fight me? >> what did you say about anytime, any place? >> let's have coffee, discuss our differences. >> okay let's have coffee. >> it's funny how your backing out. >> i'm not backing out of anyone. >> you did. >> you should be the most influential people in this country making changes. you are focused on the irrelevant? >> when he was asked about the wisdom of using violence to solve the dispute, mullin pointed to the long history of fighting in the nation's capital. >> what about just the idea that fighting as a way to solve a problem, is that, are you concerned that that's the way that the conversation is happening here on capitol hill? >> people been fighting for a long time. go back to the 1800s, it was legal to do duels. if you have a difference, you have a difference. i didn't start it. i didn't tweet at him. i didn't go after him. i have no beef with the guy. let me know the last time i got a street fight. i used to get paid to fight. what victories it for me to be to beat up o'brien? that would be a shock. but he said it. i just simply responded. if he wants to call it off and we just go have a cup of coffee, fine. i have no poor feelings. it's not personal to me. he just challenged me and i accepted the challenge. >> to be clear, mullin isn't wrong about the history of violence on the house floor. a great book came out about this on house floor. the canine he reviewed to, the infamous scaling of the abolitionist center from massachusetts who was beaten near death by a pro slavery advocate from the house on the floor of the senate, is widely considered to be like the turning point of no return pass to which a war between the states and the civil war was inevitable. believe it or not, what i played you there, with markwayne mullin and sean o'brien, was not the only hearing where we saw a republican member of congress up on the dais and microphone explode today. there's another one. all the same day. i'm just giving you today's recap. this tuesday, house oversight committee chairman james comer cannot contain his anger when confronted by democratic congressman jared moskowitz about a report that calmer made 200,000 dollar business deal with his brother. that comes amidst comer's accusation that president biden 's business dealings with his own brother james when biden was out of office. >> never alone my brother money. don't have an -- but you and goldman, who is mr. trust fund, continue to no, i'm not gonna give you. stop the clock. you all continue, you look like a smurf. you're just blowing around on this stuff. >> mister chairman, hold on, we're not on time,. >> you've you discount. >> you're doing stuff -- >> the american rather the american public -- >> you want to. >> why should they believe you? it is devour of the president, a deferral for you? why should they believe what you're saying, mister chairman? why? >> now, all this is kind of the ridiculous myths you expect from republican members of this conference. on a deeper level, though, these incidents highlight the fact that the republican party, congressional republican party was specifically, do not have a unifying governing vision. there is no project they're engaged in other than being the praetorian guard for donald trump's take over of the u.s. government. but there is no project are doing together. nothing that binds them together. crucially, also, that is the party who's de facto leader endorses, cultivate political violence, the rhetoric that led to a vie violent coup on the capitol, he makes q jokes about it when nancy pelosi's husband gets savagely assaulted. that's like a punchline for him. that's the political movement that they are part of. so it's disconcerting to see members of that party actually assaulting, apparently, other members of congress, less than three years later. jeremy is congressman jared moskowitz, a member of the oversight committee, democrat of florida. i've covered congress for a few decades. i've been a lot of congressional hearings. there's always a fair amount of posturing and performance that just is politics, it's fine. it's partly showmanship. it does seem like weirdly more unhinged over there than usual. is that a correct perception? >> thanks for having me. yeah, that's a pretty good observation. it's been going on for the last ten months. obviously it evolves in january six. it has devolved since trump continues to lower the bar, day in and day out. and they repeated. it's continuing behavior. listen, if the chairman is listening, i think he needs a mental health day. he just, they have such thin skin, these republican, feel like to dish it out. but man, they just cannot take it. he's been going on tv day in and day out talking about the brother and the president and they do business together when it wasn't in office by the way. but as soon as there's an article written by the chairman is doing the exact same thing, all i did was ask the chairman to explain it, and he just totally lost it. i needed bernie sanders to be like sit-down mister chairman. [laughter] and put him in his seat. but yeah, look, you saw it. he's been running hearings all year. his own witnesses have said there is nothing there on joe biden, nothing for impeachment. i got this $1,000 camera for only $41 on dealdash. dealdash.com, online auctions since 2009. this playstation 5 sold for only 50 cents. this ipad pro sold for less than $34. and this nintendo switch, sold for less than $20. i got this kitchenaid stand mixer for only $56. i got this bbq smoker for 26 bucks. and shipping is always free. go to dealdash.com right now and see how much you can save. >> over last week a series of reports, credible, well sourced, about the unapologetically of authoritarian vision and plans for the ex presidents potential second term. trump reportedly wants to invoke the insurrection act on day one of his presidency, vastly expanding his own executive authority, also the deployment of u.s. military personnel against u.s. citizens. he wants to purge the federal civil service of anyone deemed insufficiently loyal to the maga movement. he wants to explicitly unintentionally weaponize the department of justice, get rid of the firewall between the white house and political prosecutions, so that he can use it to prosecute his perceived political enemies. he has also a chilling new immigration plan that includes mass deportations of millions on millions and detention camps. rounding people up, putting them in the camps. that sounds like an utterly paranoid vision of a fascist dictatorship. it's what team trump is telling the world it wants to do. and donald trump himself is being specific about his aims, holding a rally on veterans day where he used the language of hitler and mussolini, quote, we will root of the communists, marxist, fascists, and radical left dogs that live like vermin within the confines of our country. this is a professor history and italian studies at new york university, author of the book strongman, from mussolini to the presidents. good to have you. hear certain things you see, like a bunch of people, like marching like in sort of paramilitary uniforms down the street and they're like waving a banner and they've got some huge picture and you just know what you are looking at, even if somebody gave it to you from like a country where you didn't actually know the politics. if someone says to you, there's a political leader who is vowing to purge the communist and leftist's who are like vermin within the confines of the nation, you just know immediately that's fascist rhetoric. >> absolutely. and everything about that speech was drawn actually from the history of fascism because fascism started as a decentralized militia movement in italy and in both italy and germany its first people where the nucleus was veterans who wanted to bring the war home. and they turned their weapons and their hatred on their own population, on leftist. and hitler started talking about jews as parasites, as early as 1920 and mussolini actually talked about having to kill rats who are bringing bolsheviks in from the east, so dehumanizing your targets isn't intra goal part of fascist rhetoric. >> it's not just the rhetoric. there are audacious plans. at this point just plans. one of them is to use the insurrection act, which is a pretty bad law in many ways in the u.s. government, an old law. his allies have begun mapping out specific plans for using the federal government to punish critics and opponents, should he win a second term. the former president naming individuals who wants to investigate or prosecute. his associates drafting plans to potentially invoke the insurrection act on his first day in office to allow him to deploy the military against civil demonstrations. >> yeah. this is all the authoritarian playbook. as you know, chris, i've been writing about trump and warning people since 2016. my book strongman, he is in it. he is at the end of a century of authoritarian history that starts with mussolini. and so all of these things he wants to do our from some chapter of that a long history. >> and he is always been honest about how much he admires xi jinping, he likes that model much better. he's always contemptuous of democracy. he likes strongman. he likes north korea as a model government. he's not shy about this. here's my question for you. it seems pretty clear that a lot of this reporting is coming from trump's people. and there is a bit, it has a kind of a braggadocious field to, with like a psyop. if you your first up against the wall if when he gets reelected. and i'm balancing the desire to take seriously these plans, which are deeply unnerving and un-american, and also feeling like they're trying to make themselves seem scary. >> that's what fascists do as well. in all of my research, every time these people come to power or before they come to power, when they come on the scene they tell us who they are and what they're going to do, and people don't want to listen. perhaps it's too upsetting. they don't want to take them seriously. so people thought mussolini was just some kind of boston we're. and we take them, we don't take them seriously, at our peril, and often it's when it's too late and people wake up and say i should have listened when trump said he could shoot someone and not lose any followers in january 2016. back then he was telling us he was sympathetic to violence, capable of violence, personally, and he would be loved for all of this. and he is loved for this. and he has been trying to re-educate americans since 2016 to feel that violence is patriotic. >> yes. >> and justified. and he has been very successful with the narrative of january 6th. >> you have to be clear here, to the degree this was a more theoretical conversation before january 6th, it's not one after. this debate about, where does he fit in this line? he really did try a coup. he really did whip up a violent mob. to try to sack the capitol. he did try to install himself against the will of the people. all this conversation we've talked about since 2016, post january six when he says i want to pardon them, that alone tells you what the intention is. >> absolutely. and by the way, mussolini was the first but not the last authoritarian to pardon the thugs who helped him get to power. because if you're having an autocratic government you need lawless people and criminals in your ranks. that list. still ahead, evidence that don trump never intended to leave the white house. excited, we don't care and we're not going to leave. >> the latest on the leaked testimony that triggered an emergency hearing. next. eave >> the latest on the leake testimony that triggered a emergency hearing. next family is just very important. she's my sister and, we depend on each other a lot. she's the rock of the family. she's the person who holds everything together. ♪♪ it's a battle, you know i'm going to be there. keytruda and chemotherapy meant treating my cancer with two different types 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