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the rise of antisemitic incidents in the u.s. since the start of the israel-hamas war, hosted by jacob sal soboroff, watch epidemic of, hate antisemitism on the rise. that's tonight's reidout. all in with chris hayes starts now. >> tonight on all in. >> i often made money. offered the power. i don't care. >> as antisemitism and hate grow around the country -- >> i'll say what i want to say, and of the consequence of that is using money, so be it. >> tonight the dangerous implications of the world's richest man suggesting jews stoke hatred of white people. then -- >> i indulge you this. i discovered with the only i discovered what onlyfans just a few weeks ago. >> george santos gets -- in the wake of the devastating ethics report. >> most people lie on the reserve resumes. unfortunately it's a reality. >> yeah you lie about everything. >> plus, how the judge of the stolen documents case is once again delaying justice and by national security spokesman john kirby on what we know about the israeli raid on sheila hospital. when all in starts, right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. one of the most distressing elements of these anguishing passed 41 days is the horrific events of october 7th and the start of the brutal bloody war between israel and hamas is the march rise in antisemitic incidents around the world and right here in the new u.s.. the anti-defamation league centered on extremism documented 832 antisemitic incidents of assault, vandalism, and harassment in the u.s. in just four weeks following the attack. it comes out an average of nearly 28 incidents per day. it represents a 316% increase over the same period last year. you could just see it. in any city you live. just here in new york city antisemitic hate crimes surged 214% in the month of october. across the country we have seen synagogues and jewish schools, jewish centers, even a jewish cemetery, defaced, vandalized. people have torn down flyers bringing attention to the more than 220 hostages kidnapped by hamas on october 7th. a lot of these incidents have taken place undercover of nighter behind the relative anonymity of the screen. but yesterday the wealthiest man in the world made one of the most shocking public pronouncements of antisemitism i have seen, and he did it on the platform that he owns. speaking of course of elon musk, the founder of spacex and tesla, who purchased twitter last year, changed its name, and probably managed to lose 25 billion dollars on it. musk brought his hard right views to the platform, where he elevated the most loathsome offensive bigots. he welcomed avowed neo-nazis had been banned who had been banned from website. he's defended white supremacists, complained about racism against white people. he compared to his billionaire george soros to win jewish moral marvel super villain. with elon musk's intention and encouragement, those with most despicable views have essentially taken over the platform now known as acts. this is a man with enormous power and influence will be on the internet. when the most powerful private citizens in the world. just yesterday he attended a cocktail hour chinese president xi jinping that followed bilateral meeting with president joe biden. musk also has the ear of top u.s. officials, who welcome him like royalty anytime he descends on washington. and so it's this man who took to his website yesterday to endorse the most violent dangerous antisemitic conspiracy theory. it'll be a with person describes himself as a jewish conservative expressing his anger about that recent rise of antisemitism. he addresses the quote, cowards hiding behind the anonymity of the internet and posting hitler was right and calls for them to step out of the shadows and, quote, say it to our faces. that prompted a reply from another user who wrote, okay, expounding okay, sitar faces? okay. i'll talk to you. jewish communities have been pushing these that kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them. you want truth said to your face? there it is. i wish i could say this was a fringe view, but as a vial over century old antisemitic conspiracy theory, basically that jewish people in coordination with people of color are a kind of conspiracy to assault whiteness. and in fact jews are behind this conspiracy. this same conspiracy, which has come to be known as the great replacement theory, that jews are the sort of puppet masters manipulating american immigration policy to replace white people, this has permeated into a large swath of the american right. we saw it in charlesville, most infamously, when the marchers chanted jews will not replace us. it was this view that was the inspiration for the perpetrator of the horrific antisemitic mass murderer at the tree of life synagogue in 2018. the killer said so himself. so elon musk, the richest man in the world, one of the most powerful and influential men in the world, the owner of this platform, replied to the post espousing that vial theory, replied to someone calling out those that think hitler is right and saying okay, he says this to the guy that said that theory. you have said the actual truth. the actual truth. jews coordinating this assault on whiteness. so shocking and repellents that elon musk, a man of highest echelons of our society, we're not just something like that but i actually believe it. it's a reminder that antisemitism is dangerous and enduring, even at the very highest levels of american society. and we should be clear. there's a real history of this in this country. many notable powerful american figures through the ages were just rank antisemites. probably the most notorious examples are actually a man who was probably the closest historical analog to elon musk in many ways. henry ford. of course ford was the founder of the ford motor company, the prefecture of assembly line production, one of the wealthiest and most influential men of earliest when the century, one of the great industrialists of the world history. and he was also, as many people know, an antisemite. but the zealousness, the viciousness with which he pursued that cause of hating jews, but cause of global persecution of jewish people, that, i think, has been a bit under emphasized in our collective recollection. it's not an asterisk to henry ford's legacy. it's right at the center. in fact, before the rise of adolf hitler, henry ford was probably the most powerful antisemite in the world. this is a topic of rachel maddow's remarkable book prequel, and sympathizers of fascism around will return those who defeated him. this past week and they get a chance to speak with reva for a live episode of my podcast, why is this happening? and she read is an excerpt about henry ford's story. >> he was one of the most successful and celebrated industrialists on the planet. his antisemitism was rank and it was unchecked. he spewed it freely in private tirades among friends, family, coast business cohorts, newspaper reporters, or pretty much anyone within earshot. ford was hardly the only radical antisemite in 1920 in the u.s., but edition to his fortune and his famous name and iconic company, he had a megaphone your average crazy article lacked. he had twitter. sorry. [laughter] it acts, i'm supposed to say, i forgot. he had a newspaper. it was called the dearborn independent. every week for 92 weeks headlines like these, the international jew, the world's problem. and jewish jazz, more on music becomes our national music. and this one, the perils of baseball. too much jew. his headlines were spat let over the headlines of fords paper, which was established for dealerships across the country. he's out the publications series in book form. who's got the international jew. iran to four volumes. the german addiction affords book had landed in the hands of one particular gifted propagandist, won eight of hitler's book, mein kampf, was published in 1925. the author appeared to lift not just ideas but whole passages from for its own publications. mine comes first addition called forward by name. when a reporter from the detroit news showed of an anti party headquarters in munich in december, 1931, to interview hitler, she had a series that was called five minutes with men in public eye. she had her five minutes with hitler. when should hitler's office she was surprised to find hanging on the wall behind hitler's desk a large framed portrait of a very famous american. hitler explained to the newspaper woman, i regard hanley forward as my inspiration. >> wild, right? didn't know it till i read the ok. that was just part of her wide-ranging to our conversation. if you want hr more, you're like. the incredible episode will be airing on peacock november 17th. to be clear, elon musk is not at the henry ford level yet. there are real warning signs emanating from of the world's most powerful man in from society at large. antisemitism is on the rise. it's real. it's dangerous. in the case of elon musk it is just staring us in the face. this is a staff writer's atlantic where he wrote about elon musk's disturbing truth and he joins me now. i suppose you are sort of a reporter who lives on the antisemitism beat. and so at some level i suppose not much can chakras or price you. and i think also, given elon musk's trajectory last few years, one could say it's not shocking or surprising. but i have to say, i was shocked. i was genuinely shocked that this man wrote, you have spoken the truth to this. what was your reaction? >> like you said, we have witnessed elon descend a radicalization spiral on the internet, which is something something we can relate to in different ways. we have seen people like friends and intellectuals mentor sometimes who gets sucked into a particular spot on the internet and if it's a conspiratorial or dark place they can start echo those things. on one hand it's not unexpected, but on the other hand it's a devastating thing to have the wealthiest person on the planet, a person looked up to by many as an icon, a person who has done a tremendous amount to advance many fields of technology and industry, to say this same, to affirm the words that were basically the justification for the greatest mass murder of jews on american soil. >> you write this, and i thought this was a really profound insight. you said the fate of a tiny jewish community rests in the hands of non jewish society. whether the anti-jewish ideas of musk and others become the new normal is not of jews, it's up to everyone else. there is obviously just an incredibly intense set of conversations happening around antisemitism, around bigotry, about anti-muslim bigotry, also documented beyond the rise of hate incidents. but this idea that this sort of most pernicious aspect of all antisemitism is the conspiratorial notion that this tiny sliver of the population is controlling things when in fact it is a majority of americans who are going to decide whether they're going to be a decent country or not. >> the deep and profound irony of antisemitism is that it's an inverted world picture. it says that there is this tiny stream pulling jewish minority that controls the massive non jewish majority. but throughout history, if you actually look, as logic would dictate, it's not the 0.2% of the world that's jewish the runs the show. it's the 99.8% of the world it's not jewish that makes the decisions and decides what happens to minorities like the jews. and how and whether they will flourish or whether they will suffer. in our societies. that's part of what is frightening about this moment. you have someone like elon musk who is pushing a particular way of thinking about that, who was amplifying that narrating that. he's not creating it. he's actually reflecting something going on in our society today. >> when i saw this yesterday i was brought up short. i was pretty enraged by it. but i also thought, is everyone gonna be okay with this? not like public condemnation is the be all or and all of these discussions, but it does seem to matter. and i think what we saw happen with conway, where we had someone who started validly reciting enunciating the most vile antisemitic bile, praising hitler and all the stuff, there's a point at which public condemnation and bring up business relationships happened, and i think that was an important step. today there's some announcements. i think he's not gonna speak at aipac. there are advertisers on x who are saying they're withdrawing, i think ibm i think is one of them. are you heartened by seeing the reaction today, which is a reaction? it's real. and how much do you think it matters? >> i think the reaction is warranted. i think we are facing a really difficult question, a sort of question we didn't fists face with kanye, because kanye had sneakers. but elon musk has invested himself and insinuated himself into the most important technologies around the world today. you wanna deal of climate change, you have to deal with its cars. you and don't talk about, aota akhter was companies. if you wonder what satellite into lead in internet in ukraine and other countries, you need to talk to him. in industry after industry it's important to the future of humanity, space travel, he's been very important. that's part of the tragedy. many of those things are good for humanity. but does that also make one person too big to fail, in a way? 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what is the methodology here? what did you guys actually do? >> thanks so much, chris. really appreciate being on your show tonight. so the ethics committee, one thing that's really important for the american people to know is that, the ethics committee and the united states congress is a fully bipartisan committee. it doesn't, it's not reflective of the percentage of republicans and democrats in the house. it's an equal number of republicans and democrats. we have a nonpartisan staff and sometimes we get referrals from the office of congressional ethics. sometimes we get referrals or complaints from members of congress. and sometimes we see what is out there in open source in news reporting and it picks our curiosity and we investigate. we are a very secretive committee because we want to protect people who have been accused of wrongdoing. we want to make sure that we are thorough. and that is why i think some people think that our process takes too long. and i agree. it takes a really long time. there's not a lot of information that is provided to the public in order to protect the integrity of the investigation and the individual who is accused, but we are pretty methodical and we go through documents, we sometimes subpoena people, we collect evidence, and we allow the person who is accused the opportunity to participate in the investigation. in other words, to defend themselves, to come before us or to provide documents. so all of this takes a very long time. but it takes a long time so that we can do the right thing. >> yeah, so this bipartisan point, i think, is really worth emphasizing. it's not a majority committee run by republicans and it can't be sort of wired the way the others are. the rules committee is dominated by the majority. they kind of get their way. this has to be a consensus product. so what you are saying is this is th

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