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tonight on "the reidout" -- >> this is a scam. it's a rigged trial. it shouldn't have been in that venue. we shouldn't have had that judge. >> it's reckless. it's dangerous. it's irresponsible. for anyone to say this was rigged, just because they don't like the verdict. >> a stark split screen today as donald trump lashed out about his 34 felony convictions, while president joe biden defended the american justice system. plus, the unhinged republican response. they want to tear the whole system down and punish everyone involved. because that's what authoritarians do. >> but we begin tonight with the man nicknamed teflon don, and no, i'm not talking about the mafia boss of the gambino crime family. i'm speaking about donald trump. but like gotti, trump has a history of not only skirting the law but always finding a way to evade any serious accountability for his actions, despite being constantly under legal scrutiny. trump used his wealth and fame to make his own rules. it was that fame enhanced even more by the hit show "the apprentice" that not only put him in a position to have sexual relations with adult film star stormy daniels in 2006 while his third wife melania was at home looking after his fifth child, but which also helped him secure the nomination for president in 2016. it was the same special rules for the rich and famous that shortly after the 2016 convention, always caused his nomination to nearly crash and burn. >> i'm automatically attracted to beautiful. kissing them, like a magnet. i don't even wait. when you're a star, they let you do it. grab them by the [ bleep ]. >> following inrelease of the "access hollywood" tape, there were those in his own party trying to distance themselves from him with drawing enforcements and calling for him to step down as the nominee. at the same time, trump was also facing the r-emergence of stormy daniels who wanted to go public about their sexual encounter and that's when he entered into the scheme to keep her quiet by paying her off and illegally hiding the payoff in his business records in order to save his campaign. which of course is a crime. yet, as we all witnessed in real time, he not only survived those dueling crises, but was actually elected president. it was just another example of a life lived without facing accountability. but just like john gotti, it appears trump's luck has finally run out in the form of 12 new york jurors who yesterday found him guilty on all 34 counts against him in his election interference trial. making him the first former u.s. president to be convicted of a felony. trump has vowed to appeal the verdict. as of now, he'll have to return to that manhattan courtroom in six weeks on july 11th to face judge juan merchan again and receive punishment for his crimes. punishment that could see him sentenced to up to four years in prison. four days after his sentencing, trump is once again scheduled to attend a republican national convention where he's expected to accept the party's nomination to be their presidential candidate. the question is, will trump once again be able to weather the storm and continue his reign as the don of the once grand old party? joining me is reverend al sharpton, president of the national action network and host of "politics nation." katie phang, trial attorney and host of the katie phang show. and catherine christian, msnbc legal analyst, and former manhattan assistant district attorney. thank you all for being here. i'm excited to have this panel here because i want to talk about the actual abcs of what trump is going to go through. before i do that, i have to ask the person who knows trump the best, you know him, how do you think he's feeling today? >> i think he is very, very much in shock. and i think that he is very depressed. you must know, donald trump always had this complex that his father thought he couldn't rise to being what a successful business person. he is now tonight a convicted felon, someone that is on the brink of financial disaster, after tish james was able to secure a civil case against him. and one who always prayed the race line. we just had a tape come out because a guy during the course of his nda where he couldn't talk about things. he came out and verified that he used the n-word during the "the apprentice." i have kwame jackson on the show tomorrow night with the central park five. >> i bet -- i mean, does it hit different that it's a black d.a. and a black woman who got him with tish james. >> black d.a. in manhattan, with alvin bragg. black tish james got him. black prosecutor in atlanta. black woman judge in washington. and if he appeals he has five black women on the appellate court here in new york. he's going from the central pack five to the appellate court five. so i mean, this is going to be the story of his life. >> to say nothing of juan merchan, who has to go back and he's disrespected that judge a lot. that's the guy who's going to sentence him. well, this is why they don't want dei. they would like this diversity to exist because it changes things. it makes law a little more fair and broad. i want to talk about this because a lot of black and brown people have gone through the system and been convicted of a crime and walk through a process that trump will now get to walk through as well. talk about the process. he's now been convicted. he has a sentencing date of july 11. what happens between now and then? >> he has to speak to a probation officer. >> watch them be black, too. watch it be a black woman. >> many of them in manhattan are people of color. and he has to be interviewed, because that's part of the investigation, the probation department does for a presentence report which will be given to the court, the defense, and the prosecutor. it's confidential so we'll not be, unless -- >> we'll never know who they are. >> yes, and that will form some of the basis of how the judge will sentence him. in new york, the judges have a lot of discretion to use whatever factors they think are relevant to sentencing. mitigating and aggravating. i think there are really only two mitigating factors in donald trump's favor. he's 77, and he has no criminal convictions. that's it. >> yet. >> yeah. but what you're going to hear the prosecutor say, and they're probably going to put in the sentencing memo, the civil fraud, not conviction, but it was a judgment. you'll hear about the sexual abuse judgment, the defamation, two of them judgment. trump university, you're going to hear all of those bad acts, along with three pending indictments. yes, they're not convictions, he's still innocent, but you're going to hear about that. you're going to hear about the violations of the gag order, including the violations of the gag order in the civil fraud case. you're going to hear about the constant, you know, talking about being a rigged case. obviously, there's no remorse. and also, i would, if i were the prosecutor, talk about how those politicians, the speaker of the house and the senate were there, probably at the behest of the defendant on trial. outside of the courthouse, when a pending case is going on. so those are all of the aggravating factors that you're going to hear the prosecutors are going to say why he should be sentenced to whatever they are, i don't know whether alvin bragg is going to ask for incarceration. but you'll hear the judge repeat it, whatever he sentenced donald trump to. >> what could he ask for? a lot of people, this is sort of the conversation in the real world. people can't see him being sentenced to four years in prison. even though michael cohen did get 30 months in prison, but okay, for the same crime. what can he get? are we talking about him picking up trash by the side of the road, him getting home confinement? that's what happened to marilyn mosby, 12 months of home confinement for taking her own money out of her own savings. what could he get? >> probation, house arrest, which is home confinement, prison. i mean, it runs the gamut. i think that's what we need to see happen. i kind of want to back pedal for a second to what you were saying and then the setup, joy, because the dam is breaking. and what bothers me, and this is something that catherine and i have dealt with as prosecutors, donald trump didn't have to go and sit in a jail cell waiting for his awaynement for any of these cases unlike anybody else would, unlike any of the people we prosecuted. so far, he hasn't spend any time in a jail cell for multiple repeated violations of the gag order, which other people would have been incarcerated by now. i'm curious to see what judge merchan does in this instance because anybody with 34 felony convictions, even though they're concurrent sentencing on each of them and he could get up to four years, i don't know if they would get as much of a consideration of the practical implications of the united states secret service, et cetera. the privilege, this is what bothers me the most about this case specifically. we talked about this last night on the panel. i keep calling the original sin the 2015 trump tower meeting. but for the hiding of what happened, could he have made it to the oval? because the privilege that he got from the oval continues with him now. the conversations we have about the secret service not being able to put him in jail for violating the gag order. what do you do? you park them outside of the jail cell. i'm a little frustrated he continues to get the benefit of the office that i think he stole to be able to get in. >> right, and the thing is that, you know, he keeps trying to say that justice is rigged against him. i mean, rev, you have funeralized people for whom the justice system's meting out of justice meant shooting them before they were arrested for anything. i think of sean bell who was coming out of his own wedding party. the justice system for him said you hit the ground dead in front of your wedding ceremony. the idea this justice system, that he's just like these black rappers that have 260 murder counts they're waiting for. oh, no, if you get convicted, you're going to sit in jail. you're not going to be treated like him. yet he's trying to make himself the equivalent of people of color who have been subjected to the system. >> and we keep going along with it. i think we have got city him as he is today. a felon. i mean, people keep talking about it's a week or two before the republican convention, when he gets sentenced. what about ten days before -- >> itser four days. >> what about ten days before he debates biden. i ran for president, i did many debates. if i was debating him that night, if i was joe biden, the first thing i would ask him, did your parole officer allow you to come down for the debate. that's how we have to start talking about it. i think katie's point is right. when he stole that election, because i will say stole because had we known all of this, i don't know whether he would have beat hillary clinton. >> that's right. >> what it means to people watching us is we wouldn't have had those three justices that assured that affirmative action was gone, that voting rights were hurt and women's right to choosz was gone. it was decisive for all of us that he went in in '16 and he went in under false pretenses. >> here's an idea what joe biden should say. here's what he said about donald trump. >> if hillary clinton were to be elected, it would create an unprecedented and protracted constitutional crisis. >> if she were to win this election, it would create a unprecedented constitutional crisis. in that situation, we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and ultimately a criminal trial. >> her current scandals and controversies will continue throughout her presidency. and will make it virtually impossible for her to govern. >> katie phang, if he is sentenced and he's got an ankle bracelet on and has to see his probation officer, does he still get national security briefings? >> apparently he will. >> would he still be able to go overseas and travel? there are countries. about 37 countries where if you're a felon, you cannot get a visa. he would, of course, i'm sure, they would allow him to get a visa to travel as our president. >> i can't believe i'm going to say this. the probation president would have to get permission from his probation officer to travel outside of the jurisdiction. >> to travel for us. >> to get out of the county where he's on probation. it's not even overseas. if you want to go to another county, you have to go to your probation officer. >> to travel the country of which you're commander and chief. >> that's why it's worthwhile to go down the path because it emphasizes the absurdity of what we're going to face if you put him back in the oval office. >> can he stop this process? is there a way that he could appeal, he's going to appeal, and somehow get that appeal out of the state of new york and get it to his friends on the supreme court where we know that alito and thomas and the other four will save him? >> it's so funny, i was speaking about this with appellate lawyers and we were saying not legally. but if you have six friends on the supreme court and let's say maybe three of them are better friends than the other three, you know, what will he do? will he assuming he got re-elected, will he try to pardon himself? and of course, you'll say you can't do that. >> he'll say yes you can. >> yes, you can, and what will the state have to do, and we're talking about georgia and manhattan. they'll have to go where? to federal court. and then how do you get to the supreme court, by going through federal. we were thinking of all of the machinations that could happen. assuming he gets elected. >> and that would bring us right back to what you said, rev. and what you said. stealing the white house inoculated him and made him above the law because he had six people on the supreme court who will always rule in his favor. >> and that is the threat to our whole country. and people need to think about that. that's why i have been saying to people since the conviction was announced yesterday. don't gloat, vote. we have nothing that we can do to stop him from or make him go to the big house, but we can stop him from going to the white house. >> i'm going to leave it there. >> waiting for the supreme court immunity ruling too. >> we know how that's going to go. >> if he wasn't in the oval, he would never be able to say that. >> he could have never stolen the classified documents. he couldn't have done any of it had he not stolen the election. the hero of the day, stormy daniels for speaking out and causing him to trigger himself and commit a crime that makes him a felon. reverend sharpton, katie phang, catherine christian, thank you all very much. check out "politics nation" where reverend al sharpton has big guests this weekend including exonerating central park five member yusef salaam. this is exactly the person i want to talk to. also, former trump lawyer michael cohen. i'm going to come sit in the studio during rev's show because this is literally the people i want to hear from. thank you, rev. up next on "the reidout" -- maga world's response to trump's guilty verdict is, yes, just as unhinged as you would expect. before we go to the break, responsed to the verdict in arizona. >> i think this is going to help trump because the people who were undecided and more middle of the road probably see this as a political persecution. >> i think it's such a close election, this could throw the electorate in a different direction. you know, people may not want to elect a convicted felon. oooh! i can't wait for this family getaway! shingles doesn't care. shingles is a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. ahhh, there's nothing like a day out with friends. that's nice, but shingles doesn't care! 99% of adults 50 years or older already have the virus that causes shingles inside them, and it can reactivate at any time. a perfect day for a family outing! guess what? 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