hair and i put stuff on it. i put it in. lather. i like lots of lather because i like it to come out extremely dry because it seems to be slightly thicker that way. and i lather up and then you turn on this crazy shower and the thing drip, drip. you say, i'm going to be here for 45 minutes. what the -- restricters like here. it rains a lot in certain places. you know? but no. their idea, did you see the other day? they just -- i opened it up and though closed it again. i open it, they close it. washing machine to wash your dishes. there is a problem. they don't want you to have any water. they want no water. >> you were just listening to former president trump. we are going to the things he was discussing there. >> they had to cut away from the washing machine. >> what is the analysis of drip, drip, drip? green hair? fox news cut away from donald trump's speech rally in philadelphia on saturday as he droned on about low water pressures in homes. >> washing machines. >> washing his hair. how he likes a lot of lather. imagine if joe biden did this, by the way? it would be 24-hour coverage of joe biden losing it. this? they go to break. we will show you more of donald trump's comments as we are days away from the first meeting between trump and president biden in more than three and a half years. we will have the latest on debate preps and strategies for both sides. also today is two years since the supreme court's decision on dobbs, ending federal protections for abortion care. to mark this day, i spoke exclusively with vice president kamala harris and abortion rights advocate hadley duvall whose emotional deeply personal story helped democratic governor andy bashir win last year. welcome. it's monday, june 24th. with us we have the host of "way too early," white house bureau chief at politico, jonathan lemire. reverend al sharpton is joining us. u.s. special correspondent for bbc news, katty kay. nbc news national affairs analyst john heilemann. he is a partner and chief political columnist at puck. good to have you here. >> great to have everybody. what a lineup! >> wow. happy monday. >> like a red sox lineup right now. john heilemann, you can read until the papers this weekend and this morning that the trump people have belatedly figured out that lying about joe biden's incoherence and during tapes to suggest he is not -- was a bad idea. now they are trying to, like, reverse track and say, oh, no. he is a debater and maybe he is going to take drugs and he should be drug tested because he is going to end up doing so well. i'm not going to do that here. donald trump when you look at any of his speeches front-to-back looks like he is off his rocker. it's crazy things he says. it's crazy what people stand there and applaud for. here, they just look thoroughly confused and fox news had to cut away because they are like i got nothing here, i got nothing. >> what do you do with that? >> when fox news thinks there is too much lather going on with donald trump and they are so -- like too much lather. he likes to lather. a lot of lather. that is how you know that he has jumped -- you mentioned sharks there, i think i heard you? >> sure. >> i don't think he talked about sharks in this event, but he has metaphorically jumped the shark. i think that is right. i wouldn't make any long-range bets on the fact that they have given up -- the trump campaign has given up doctoring video or other kinds of cheap fake, deep fake misinformation, disinformation. i think we will see a whole lot of that going forward. we seem to be in this moment with the debate this close in hand. i do think -- look. i think trump is probably personally thinks he is going to this debate on thursday and get the better of president biden. i think they are comparing the two of them who seems more coherent and more presidential. i think a contrast that doesn't necessarily cleanly work to donald trump's advantage. they seem to be letting off the gas at least as we head into this week maybe they want to lay off of that comparison. >> requiring a drug test is kind of a low bar. okay. former president trump spoke at two events on saturday. a christian conference in washington and then a rally in philadelphia. and here are some of his more notable remarks. >> the whole thing was they wanted the roe v wade was federal and they wanted it back in the states so the people could vote and make their decisions. it's now up to the will of the people in each state. some states will be more conservative. other states will be more liberal. it's happening now. you see the votes are all taking place. and it's the way every legal scholar and just about all of the democrats and all of the republicans and conservatives and liberals, they all wanted it that way. we did something that was amazing. christians go to church but they don't vote that much! do you know the power you have if you would vote? you got to get out and vote. just this time. i don't care. if four years, you don't have to vote, okay? in four years, don't vote. i don't care! but, heck. we will have it all straightened out! my stupid people, when i wanted to refute it, they said, sir? don't dignify it with a refutable or refuddled? he didn't know! they don't know either. we have to get out there. we have to vote. we have to make sure everything is honest and you keep your eyes open. you know? you're the police in a way. you could police your vote. a lot of people don't know that. just make sure that vote counts. we have to make sure it counts. i told dana white, here is what we are going to do. these are tough cookies coming into our country. he is coming with prisons and mental institutions. i said, dana, i have an idea for you to make a lot of money. you're going to go and start a new migrant fight league. only migrants. at the end of the year, the champion migrant is going to fight your champion and i hate to tell you, dana, i think my migrant might win. that's how tough they are. we saved the world from those and now they decide to at that time names off. wait until you see ultimately what happens with those names. i call it a transition. like transitioning. they have a transition name before they name it. the reverend al sharpton, fort al sharpton. now you can just imagine. you can just imagine. but this is a transition. they have done a couple of transitions. these people, they are sick. >> sick? they are sick! no. they don't like losers. they don't like losers, donald. i know you like losers. you like losing. you've lost seven years in a row. i don't know if you know, but because of you, your party lost in 2017, your party lost in 2018, your party lost in 2019, your party lost in 2020, your party lost in 2021, your party lost in 2022, your party lost in 2023. if the past is pro longed, your party is going to lose in 2024. yeah, southerners like myself, we don't really like naming forts after loser. that is not transition. we want to name forts after american patriots who win wars. donald, maybe you should see the beginning of patton and george c. scott stands in front of an american flag and says americans don't want and won't abide losers. they want winners. so, yeah, we don't want some loser who tried to overthrow the federal government so slavery could continue another hundred years or so. we like winners. i say that as a southerner, okay? a little worried about alabama crimson tide. we will be as good as saban? i don't know. if he is not, they will fire him. does that -- that is how we think in the south. that's how we think in america. you want to name forts after losers, after confederate soldiers and generals? rev al, i'll take a fort sharpton. it sounds nice! it sounds nice about america and a military moving toward a more perfect union and not stuck in its slave holding past like poor donald there wants us to be stuck in the mid 1800s. >> well, i think that one of the things that comes to mind is, of course, he is playing to a crowd that clearly is against some of the things that i've represented civil rights and other things. the fact he is representing himself. most military bases are served as people who served in the military. one of the thing he and i have in common is neither one of us served in the military. you think after four years as president he would know by now what military bases are for. he is also showing to say we should not take military generals or military people off of naming our military bases as you've just talked about, joe. it shows how he embraces confederates being served as taxpayers of all races are paying for. let's remember when we had the marches of blacks and jews together in charlottesville for the removal of the robert e. lee statue. one lady was killed. it was trump saying fine people were on both sides. he reminds us of is embrace of that and to take it a step further, if the collage he is staying women's rights ought to be done by the states right. the whole civil rights was get away from states rights and let the government protect our civil rights. now he is saying women's rights should be dealt state-by-state, which was exactly the template of segregation and something the civil rights movement and now the women's right movement must fight against. >> thursday night's debate looms as an undeniably important moment in this campaign. president biden is comparing by camp david with most of his trusted advisers going to through debate prep. we showed how donald trump is preparing. he is at rallies and incoherent remarks and as noted in one of those clips, even proposing a usc style fighting championship among migrants. he said it at both that rally in philadelphia, as well as at a christian conference. at that conference as well, he got cheers, he got laughter. this is where his audience is. that is what he thinks works but do we really think that kind of stuff is going to play thursday night when he is actually trying to win over undecided voters? >> and his campaign comes back and says that was a joke and the lips can't take a joke and they think we are talking about some kind of human cock fighting thing and this is the crowd martial arts that they are involved in. it's a dog whistle about migrants again. that is a large part of his campaign. he has been telling us -- i mean, it was interesting at one rally over the weekend he is polling the crowd. remember. this is his debate prep but owe is polling the crowd how he should actually perform and say should i go after him, attack? or should i just be quiet and meek and one get cheers and one gets boos. one thing that i am hearing from the trump campaign, you talked to both campaigns, john, they both sound very confident about thursday night. one of the things that they have said is they think actually paradoxically the format helps donald trump because having his mike killed for that time, it was back in 2020, i still have ptsd from that debate. it wasn't a debate. it was a nightmare. they think the fact he is going to be muted means that actually it will help him not come across as being so bullying, so crazy seeming, so extreme so they are pretty confidence this is a format that works for them. let's wait until we see thursday night. >> reverend al, jonathan lemire brought up that donald trump was speaking to a group i guess they call themselves christian nationals. they call creme themselves christians. they are about politics and not faith. donald trump talked about a fight club for migrants and that jesus talked about. there is not an overlay there really with -- i never have heard this in any church growing up. you would have never heard this in any church growing up. yet, donald trump goes into this so-called christian conference talking about a fight club for migrants. they are laughing and cheering. about as far away from a good samaritan and jesus says i think matthews 41, through 36. nothing is further apart than what jesus said and donald trump is saying and, of course, that just doesn't matter to them. >> no. you have the scripture right in matthew. he said and he called to tell the ufc they should make money using these migrants to fight each other and then he wants to exploit them. this is his proposition. let's use them. let's let them fight each other. the winner can fight our champion but these are tough guys. all for exploiting making money. he said that he said to her you can make a lot of money off of this. like you can make money off these people. at the same time, he tells the christian crowd, you christians don't vote enough, which is absurd on its face but is now tantamount to voting you must vote for him to confirm your christian it's? it should have been insulting. >> again, if joe biden said this to any audience, dot, dot, dot. you know how it goes. former adviser to george w. bush republican karl rove is saying that trump's current slump in the polls may not just be like a blip but part of a longer trend. on fox news on saturday, rove broke down why he thinks this is the case. >> there has been a transcend may 30th guilty verdict in the new york case. so biden has had numbers that have been moving up under women and seniors. he is still underperforming along women. trump is doing well among black and other campaigns in his own. you're right. absolutely the movement is among independents and they have moved in recent polls roughly nine points toward biden. if 21% of independents in a survey shortly after the conviction said that they were less likely to vote for donald trump as a result of the conviction. >> john heilemann, again, in close elections where michigan, where wisconsin, where pennsylvania is going to be decided probably by under a point, that sort of fluctuation voting matter. the one thing karl rove did not bring up of donald trump that will tell you he has the joan rivers vote locked away like he has in the past. >> oh, my. >> he at least has got that on the side. independents have broken away. again, we hear it every four years, donald trump is going to get 20% of the black vote and 25% of the black vote. it just doesn't happen. >> well, as i will begin by saying my usually song here. march of error race will be close and a margin error of race through election day and we are still in the margin of error. but the same way we talk about like any individual poll doesn't matter very much but trend lines matter. you know, i sent out with -- last week and talked about the numbers. you look at the fact that trump basically this calendar year, trump's peak lead in the polling averages was at its peak in january after it came out about four points. last week, again, within the -- way inside the margin of error for the first time all year, in the 538 poll he averaged biden moved ahead by a trivial number but not just the last month, i would say. karl rove knows these numbers but it's not just the last month. it's a six month very gradual trend line is heading in joe biden's direction. closing a four-point gap over six months in a race that is a margin of error race is meaningful. i asked jen o'malley dillon whether they are seeing those numbers on the national level but in the battleground states and whether the verdict seems to be playing a part of it and her answer was yes. they are playing attention to the battleground states and seeing on the margins, small, but meaningful inching toward joe biden and a difference seems to make a difference to that. we are so far inside the mrgin of error you couldn't be more inside of it. i think both sides know it and another reason that explains part of why the pressure on trump is mounting around this debate as much as on biden. they are not dumb about reading polls either. >> no question trend lines moving towards biden even if in a small way. to john's point it's a margin of error race and the role that third-party candidates will play a big key factor here. robert f. kennedy did not qualify for this thursday debate but he still looms large. we heard over the weekend trump actually talking about joe stein and west saying he likes them and stay in the race and support them because he knows drawing a sliver could be a factor to this race. >> has he figured out if he like i said rfk jr. or not? polls said he might take more from trump than biden. >> he is doing this weird dance. his advisers are still trying to figure out how to handle this. on one hand he is critical of rfk jr. and then he compliments him and put out a video when rfk jr. did not qualify for the debates and seemed sympathetic toward rfk jr. he recognizes that rfk draws from both men and maybe more from trump but trump is anxious will alienating the rfk voters. if he goes after rfk jr. too hard he thinks he could win otherwise. i've been told they are trying to navigate this where they are being critical but don't want to overdo t at least for now. a story line to watch. >> sounds a little complicated. i think it's which way the wind is blowing headline wise. still ahead on "morning joe," today marks two years since the dobbs ruling from the supreme court overturning roe. we will play for you president biden's new comments marking this day. plus, my exclusive conversation with vice president kamala harris who has been a leading voice for the administration on this issue. a special guest. you're watching "morning joe." we are back in 90 seconds. g "mo" we are back in 90 seconds. with so many choices on booking.com there are so many tina feys i could be. so i hired body doubles. mountain climbing tina at a cabin. or tree climbing tina at a beach resort. nice! booking.com booking.yeah. kids love summer break, but parents? 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>> women, today, if they are walking in the shoes that i was in, which was pregnancy