get into the worst part of the pandemic in two or three months, all the epidemiologists and the scientific community in brazil started recommending a national lockdown to prevent what is happening right now. and the federal government didn't listen to any of us. so it's pretty clear that they never acted up to the task that they had front of them to prevent this tragedy that is happening in brazil. it's unfolding at levels that we never imagined could be possible down here. >> it is incredible. it just gets worse and worse every time i speak with you. dr. miguel nicolelis in sao paulo, really appreciate your time and your work. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back.