hands. >> keep in mind, this is not a situation where the two parties are miles apart. we're in rough agreement about how much spending can be cut responsibly as a first step towards reducing our deficit. we agree on a process where the next step is a debate in the coming months on tax reform and entitlement reform, and i am willing and ready to have that debate. if we need to put in place an enforcement mechanism to hold us accountable for making the reforms, i will support that too if it's done in a smart and balanced way. so there are plenty of ways out of this mess. but we are almost out of time. >> i want to bring in cnn's joe johns to tell us where things stand at this moment. how is speaker boehner trying to reach his magic number of 217? >> randy, when i was listening to you at the top sounded like you were describing theater of the absurd. house republicans are inches closer to fixing their problem in the house of representatives. i think we have pictures now of the house rules committee. i want to show you that they are meeting i am told. whenever the house rules committee meets what they are trying to do essentially is pay for the revised bill to make its way to the house of representatives. that's congressman david drier there. now the republicans are looking to try and change their latest proposal and get the approval of the rules committee by essentially adding on a balanced budget provision and a requirement that both houses of congress pass the balance budget amendment before they will allow what is called this two-step process of raising the debt limit. now, democrats have said again and again they don't want a two-step process, and what is fascinating here is that the republicans change of their proposal would require the passage of the amendment. harry reid heard about it and went to the cameras, and check out his reaction. >> i am not standing in line to see how many times can you amend a constitution, but if people want to vote on that, fine. as senator schumer pointed out, to show the extremism of these people, the extremism of these people, they are not satisfied with the vote on it, and they want a guarantee that it is passed before they will allow an extension of the debt limit. how bizarre can anybody be? well, bizarre or not, the fact of the matter is that john boehner, the speaker of the house, is doing everything he can to pass something out of there, and in order to do that you have to make deals. 10 or 15 years ago they would have thrown money at the problem, billions of dollars to get votes. now they are not throwing money at the problem, but they still have to give people something in order to get their votes, and this is what they are trying to do. >> seems like there's a lot of conversations going on, but is there any real negotiation going on? >> basically what the people at the senate are doing is waiting for the house to figure out whether or not they are sending a bill over or not. senator reid did say he wanted to sit down with the republican leader, mitch mcconnell in the senate and talk about a bill that would pass, and that's key. if mitch mcconnell had good ideas, i mean, he at least knows what the tea party republicans over in the house are thinking. if he has good ideas, he might be able to figure out something to thread the needle, you know. one of the scenarios, there are two dozen or so hard nosed over in the house and they may have to go around them but who knows if that is possible. >> who knows? we will keep watching it along with you. thank you very much. you heard the scenarios for post august 2nd, depending on the politics, some people believe it could lead to disaster business as usual. i want to show you some highlights. maybe we should call them the lowlights. we put key dates together. on august 3rd, the treasury is due to bring in $12 billion in tax revenues and face $32 billion in payments, and i am talking social security and defense and jobless benefits and a whole lot more, and assuming no borrowed money to make ends meet, the gap for that one day will be $12 billion, and not pretty. combined deficit now, $26 billion, and then fast-forwarding, we will have taken in $172 billion against $306 billion in obligations. we will be $134 billion short. nobody knows who the treasury will pay and who will have to wait. strange behavior when the muslim army soldier arrested with bomb-making material appeared in federal court today. she was charged with possession of an illegal firearm, and the police say he told them he wanted to kill soldiers at the military post. he refused to stand up when the judge entered the courtroom, and he was yanked up by marshals. on exiting the courtroom he gave a shotout to a soldier that killed many at ft. hood. and then texas farmers are suffering the third worst drought in recorded history. norway paused today for a somber memorial service of the victims of the twin terror attacks. ♪ norwegian leaders joined relatives for a service in oslo by the youth wing of the labor party, the target of last week's shooting spree. he called them heroes, and said norway's response would have more democracy. the police plan to question breivik today for the second time since his arrest. the libyan woman that claimed she was gang raped by forces loyal to moammar gadhafi arrived here in the u.s. she flew into new york two nights ago and got a flight to denver where she plans to stay at least for the time being. she gained international attention and concern in march when she rushed into a hotel and described in detail her rape to the media. before coming here, she spent 54 days at a u.n. refugee center in romania. fixing the debt ceiling crisis. could it be as simple as balancing a city budget? 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[ male announcer ] if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. the pressure to solve the debt ceiling issue is being felt in washington, of course, but officials across the country are anxious for congress and the white house to get this deal done. one mayor went as far to write president obama and the members of congress a letter this week offering ground level insight into the crisis. the letter says i write to offer some outside the beltway perspective and to strongly affirm the need for an immediate bipartisan practical solution that balance yunss federal reduced spending with a comparative mild increase in rev news. the author of the letter joins me now. phoenix mayor, phil gordon. thank you for coming on the show. why did you decide to send the president and congressional leaders this letter. did you think it would help them? >> i am hoping it will help. i want to point out respectfully the crisis is already here. we have had contracts now that have been affected particularly at the airport, where people are not able to go to work, which means people are out of work. phoenix has bit hit as hard or harder than any other city in the united states. while the numbers are less, it's the same if not worse. we had a 25% budget reduction over the last two years, and laid off over 2,000 employees, and yet still have a aaa bond rating, the highest in the country of any major city. we have the lowest crime rate in 40 years, and we're investing in the future. we did not do it with the bickering and fighting going on. it can't be done in the press. it has to be done quickly. >> what do you think you did right that you could pass on to washington and let them know how to get it done? >> well, again, i offer it respectfully, but it is affecting our city. number one, we brought all the parties together that were the people that were really involved in the negotiations, and didn't leave the room. literally we didn't leave the room. and we didn't debate it in the press, which i know that's important, but it's -- i think it's more important to work out something, and let the tempers be left at the door, and we stayed in the room and we made the hard choices, and some of us took the political risks for the good of the future, and i think that that's what it has been about, statesmanship, and the public has supported us, 90% of the city is supporting what we took, which was a small increase in food taxes, but at the same time a major decrease in services and personnel. >> what is the most important tip you can offer congress and the president today? >> to, i guess, continue to sit down but not leave the room. put a handshake on and say we're going to do this for the country now. we have got to. the crisis -- i think acknowledge the crisis is already there. people are out of work right now because of this debate. and if the goal is to put people to work, both sides claim victory, and let's go forward, and have a balanced budget, and then, you know what? the electors in november can decide on a referendum. >> do you think we will have an agreement before august 2nd? what is your gut? >> i do. the pressure now with mayors like myself and real working people speaking up, people being put out of work, not that they are out of work trying to get a job, but now people losing their jobs, this pressure has got to be building on these individuals. with respect to those that have taken a pledge not to do this or to only do this, you know, that's really -- that's what is causing the problem is if we are not flexible, if we cannot add yus and if we think one size fits all, we will end up in default, and look like countries like greece. this is the united states. this is the world leader. we look like children now fighting, our partisanship. the public is now distinguishing between political parties, and they are saying same on all of you and get the balanced budget and go forward. that's why we elected you. >> mayor gordon of phoenix, and thank you for your time and advice as well. appreciate it. air france flight 447, a flight that fell out of the sky and killed many, a final report about how it happened and the solution next. 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>> reporter: randy, he was the most silent attorney i have seen in my career covering trials, and he didn't look at the jury or judge or take notes. just about an hour ago, a dramatic and crazy and wild and nutty turn. there was evidence being presented of dock mauments show the names of the 75 different women, and he stood up and said he objected. and the jury acted shocked and surprised. the judge said on what grounds? he said religious grounds. and then he talked for 60 minutes, not just about why he objected to the evidence, but gave a talk about mormonism and polygamy, and he said we believe in -- this is a quote, heavenly authorized not to be interfered with by government powers, and the irony is, if he is guilty of what he is charged of, he is what has helped make this a wicked word. the judge suspended the morning proceedings because he kept interrupting the prosecutor afterwards, so lord knows what will happen. >> this sounds like a waste of time. does jeffs even plan to cross examine witnesses? what do you think? >> reporter: he has not cross examined anybody yet, and there has been nine witnesses. he says he gets revelation from god. and he told the jury that he was a fraprophet. we don't know what is going to happen. he is still representing himself in this trial and he could go to prison if found guilty for the rest of his life. that's the interesting thing. before he went on the die atribe, the prosecutor said they think it will go until tuesday, and you don't know, if he talks for an hour and talks slowly and for a long time, the trial could take until the year 2040. there is no way to predict anything at this time. >> gary, thank you very much. she stormed a hotel risking everything, just to tell her story of alleged gang rape. up next, we will tell you where this libyan woman is living now and how she got there. to power our lives.d while energy developement comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing decades of cleaner burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources within self contained well systems and using state of the art monitoring technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment we are america's natural gas. at liberty mutual, we know ho