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norman. our chad myers tracking it all from the severe weather center. what can you tell us? >> it looks like it was in norman, oklahoma. it was about 3/4 miles north of the stadium. through downtown and out towards the east of the city and up toward the lakes that are off to the east. the storm is still moving along i-40. we don't believe there is a tornado anymore with it. the storm mass stopped rotating. right in the middle of norman, this storm was rotating enough that a funnel came down, created a tornado and has created damage. there are calling for some barricades to stop people from driving on some of the roads. they are calling for some -- started saying there are minor injuries and areas of structural damage where roofs are off the building all together and off the apartment buildings. >> another storm out near chickasha. don't see anything rotating on it yet. we have spotters out there. we are watching all this. this person, vern carlson, driving, looking for the storm. we know where he is just to the east of chickasha. if we get any more information, we will certainly break back in. today is actually just a warmup. a warmup for tomorrow where we may have dozens, if not more than that, there may be 100 tornadoes on the ground possible skipping here and there. anywhere from nebraska down through and into dallas, texas, to the south and east of wichita, oklahoma city. this is going to be a violent weekend. tomorrow is the big day. today is just start. tomorrow is the big one. john? we will keep in touch with chad throughout the hour and throughout the weekend. chad, thanks so much. new developments in the case of george zimmerman, the man who admits he shot trayvon martin, could get out of jail on bail one week from today if his lawyer gets his way. a bond hearing has been penciled in for 9:00 a.m. until then, zimmerman will be confined to his 67-square foot cell. trayvon martin's big brother is opening up about that february night. he talked exclusively to our legal analyst, sunny hostin. here is what he says about zimmerman's version of events. >> when you found out what happened, the details of what happened, how did you feel? >> confused. everything i heard was from zimmerman's perspective. it didn't sound like my brother at all. my brother attacked him and did all this stuff. it doesn't sound like him at all. he wasn't confrontational or violent. >> sunny is with us from new york. jahvaris is an interested family member. he is not a witness. how does his version of how his brother is match up with what the prosecutor says? >> it certainly does match up. i do have a copy of the affidavit and have been reviewing it extensively. the affidavit describes trayvon martin as not the initial aggressor but someone that was afraid of george zimmerman, who knew george zimmerman was following him and was really trying to get away. that's how jahvaris describes his brother. he says he was not a violent person, not a confrontational person and likely would have run away from a situation that scared him, rather than be confrontational. so it certainly jives with what we see in the affidavit. >> ever since this case came to our attention, the big question, among the big questions is, who is trayvon? let's listen about his brother describing the personality of the younger brother he has lost now. >> i like to think we had almost the same personality. i think of myself as a funny person, like to make jokes. he was the same way. i love kids. i love my little cousins. he was the same way. if anything, he probably spent more time with them than i did. >> if there is a trial, sunny, and that's a big if, does character testimony have any role. >> perhaps. i doubt that this kind of testimony which come in. it is an issue as to whether or not trayvon martin was the initial aggressor, was the aggressive person that night. certainly, that is a component of this case. i did learn a lot about trayvon martin and the type of person he was, at least from his brother's perspective. >> a big question in the news today, whether the judge who has been handling the case so far, will have to recuse herself? >> what's the case there? >> we learned that the judge is married to the legal partner of an attorney named marknejame. he was contacted to represent george zimmerman. he declined that representation. it is unclear as to wrornt he had a conversation with this judge's husband, who is one of his legal partners. it is unclear whether or not the case was discussed at the law firm. it is unclear as to whether or not the judge discuss td this with him. this is a new judge, about 39 years old. she is sort of an unknown factor in this courtroom. it is quite possible that a defense team would not want that judge. would move to have this judge recused and get one of the other circuit court judges that are more seasoned and more known. >> we should say that mark nejame has signed on as a cnn political contributor. one of the most influential voices in popular culture is speaking out about the slaying. listen to what bill cosby told us. >> you saw more a gun issue than a race issue. >> how are you going to solve a race issue when it becomes, he said, she said or he said/he said. the other question is, what is solved by saying, he is a racist, that's why he shot the boy? what solves that? this, and what is he doing with it, and who taught him and told him how to behave with this? >> candy crowley is with us now. it is an interesting perspective. mr. cosby always has. what is to be solved, he says, by saying that he is a racist? this is a race issue. many of the civil relates activists and others that have been involved have said that. this is profiling. this is a hate crime. mr. cosby, as he has in the past taken issue with some of the leadership. >> not by name and not specifically. he is saying as you heard, what is it? we don't solve the problem by saying he is a racist, like what is in another guy's head. then, it becomes a no, i don't, yes, i do sort of thing. he thinks it is a gun problem. he lost his only son to gun violence. what was interesting to me was he was also very nuance about it. he said, i actually think you have a perfect right to have a gun in your own home to protect yourself. he, in fact, said that he had one at one time. it is with that gun, you begin to believe you can solve things. you begin to believe you can fix things. so he talked about how he would hear something outsigh. he would stick his gun in his pocket and go out there and he said, i remember the cop who taught me about using the gun and all of that, said to me, once you pull that trigger, you can't put it back. it was a very interesting overview that didn't take the kind of normal sides that you tend to here in a debate like this. >> he is clearly among the mms maybe particularly so in the african-american community. what else struck you in the conversation? >> i asked him about how he thought president obama was doing and he talked about the many things that the president had to endure over this. he does think that people have gone after him because of his race. he is very defensive about the president. i asked him about those that are xlar complaining on the left that he hasn't done enough. >> i would ask them to look at what he has had to put up with. >> i don't know he that that will help the obama administration. he is very forceful in his defense of the president. >> always a fascinating guy to hear from. as a reminder, you can see candy's entire conversation with bill cosby on cnn's state of the union. thanks again. you will remember, last night, a lot of hype. north korea's controversial rocket fell to peaces over tpie. much of the rest of the world worried it was a cover for a major ballistic test. how will north korea handle its pride? a nuclear test could be on the near horizon. for now, the nation is, throwing a party. our stan grant is in pyongyang. >> reporter: to flower in a day. in north korea, history is what you make it. as it always is here, this is about the power of images an the worship of their leaders. two massive statues of the founder of the country, kim il-sung and kim jong-il. the new leader, kim jong-un. >> reporter: this is how north korea is responding with this scene of triumph, this massive statues of kim il-sung and kim jong-il. when you are ruled by a personality, they almost pretend the rocket launch never happened. >> reporter: this is how the day started. here was north korea's initial response to its rocket failure, an empty chair. behind it, a screen that was supposed to carry images of the launch, the world's media invited in for what pyongyang would be a proper thing. instead, officials in silence to a barrage of questions. a scramble to find out what was going on. >> no warning at all. this really came very much as a flash to us. >> reporter: hours ticking by and not a word. then, a government announced we would be taken to a high security secret location. this is what greeted us. two huge figures draped in seats. a sea of people stretched as far as they could see. jerrells in all their finery, full of metals. this gary supposed to be a celebration of the launch and a changes to pay ohmage to the dear leader, a man they still grieve for after his sudden death last december. stan grant, cnn, pyongyang. mitt romney has filed an extension on his tax returns. we will share details on what we are learning on governor romney's extension. president obama did file and release his returns. ann romney has more to say about working moms. why? 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>> publicly, it was a misstep. ann romney is very likeable and spouses are off limits. first of all, there is going to be a million more of these issue of the day outrage over a quote that's going to happen between now and november. i think it is a mistake to say this about a war of words about women as opposed to a war on women when it comes to real policies. when it comes to policies, republicans have shown repeatedly they are not on the side of women. >> kelly ann, if the democrats have the advantage and they do if you look at polling, a huge gender gap. if they have an advantage on the policies, was this perhaps an opening. you have to have an opening to make up lost ground. was this an opening? ann romney did a magnificent job leveraging it. she was very affable, accessible and ladylike, rather than play the victim, john. she went and waved banner nor all stay-at-home moms who i respect enormously. this is what happens when the democrats spend two months trying to claim there is a war on women and basically only speaking to the lower half of women. they are always talking about reproductive rights and contraception and abortion. with are is that in the cnn polling? top issue, top three, top five, top 20? it is simply not. we republicans want to speak to the whole woman, her heart, her mind, her body, her soul. when you pigeonhole women into "women's issues" that somehow exclude the economy, food prices, health care, education, then from debbie wasserman schultz on down, you run into this problem when a gav lif lik that occurs. a big part of nancy pel low sis' biography was this woman stayed at home with her children until the youngest of five was in high school. the democrats held that up for nancy pelosi and put down ann romney. it makes no sense. >> you make a passionate case for your side. i will go to margie first on this. if kelly ann is right and i know you probably she is wrong on some of it, if there is this opening and the republicans can't engage on the issues, why is it mitt romney, not ann romney, on the ballot and the abc washington poll, obama gets 57%, romney gets 38%. what is the biggest source of the democratic advantage in the gender gap right now? >> a few things. mitt romney has a difficult time connecting with women voters and voters generally. his own staff doesn't know where he stands on gender pay equity. it is not just about birth control and reproduction. it is about violence against women act. mitt romney said he wasn't familiar with that bill. it is a whole host of things. republicans in congress had a panel talking about restricting access to birth control, had only men, refused to have women speak. republicans in their presidential debate have been fighting over whether or not birth control is okay, even though 99% of women use it. republicans have made this an issue. that's why you see this huge gender gap benefiting the president. he is focusing on things like jobs. kelly ann is absolutely right. all these other issues are important. republicans aren't there. democrats are. >> kelly, you are on the team. if governor romney were to see you and say, help me on the specific issue of the gender gap? >> i will help the republican nominee. i will make another point. this is what i would tell the republican nominee. barack obama did a remarkable thing in 2008, he got 56% of the female vote. that is such a high number for a nonincumbent president. president reagan, clinton, george w. bush, all reelected overperformed their first take among women by 7 or 8 points in the re-election. so by that standard, obama would need like 63%, 64% of women. he is not going to get that. so his gender gap is also among men, which nobody wants to discuss. men have really abandoned him, particularly white men over the economy. he needs to make up those gains against women. you saw a really bad week for the white house with women when it was revealed women in the white house make on averaging 18% less than men there. how, with a straight face, do the democrats come out and say, we are the ones for pay equity, for fairness to women. let's look at what women are telling people they care about and match that. the gender xwap exists for several reasons. women tend to be a little bit more democratic and men republican. women are also very proincumbent. this president, just like george w. bush and ronald reagan and bill clinton, has institutional advantages. women don't like to rock the boat unless they are given a reason. it is up to the republican nominee to provide that reason to tell them you don't have to fear changing leadership at the top. fuel prices are double what they were when he started. >> a conversation we will continue for 200 years. margie omera and kellyanne we appreciate you. the new jersey mayor describes what happened when he ran into a building to save a woman trapped in a fire. 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