he was talking about propofol, the anesthetic that finally killed him. it took him to the valley of death and did not bring him back. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening, another dramatic day in the trial of dr. conrad murray, who's accused of causing the death of michael jackson. to ted rollins in los angeles. >> reporter: piers, it was a riveting day in court today, we got to listen to conrad murray, basically, this will be it for jurors, unless he takes the stand, he gets to tell his side of the story through a police interview. a two-hour audiotape that jurors heard about an hour and 40 minutes of. in it he talks about giving michael jackson propofol every single night during the two months he was taking care of the pop star, except, he said, for the few days leading up to his death. he said he was trying to help jackson break away from the addiction to propofol, he said jackson was his friend, he said he was doing everything he could to jackson and jackson was demanding he give him that, what he would call, milk. >> i got to sleep, dr. conrad. i have this rehearsals to perform, i must be ready for the show in england. tomorrow i will have to cancel my -- my performance, i have to cancel my trip, because, you know, i cannot function if i don't get the sleep. >> fell asleep quickly, he's snoring, he was not in a deep sleep. >> i was worried about that, because he didn't quickly wake up, but i monitored him. i stayed there and watched and monitored his oxygen saturation, high 19, 90%. heart rate roughly in the 17s, everything looked stable. i monitored him. i sat there and watched him for long enough period that i felt comfortable, then i needed to go to the bathroom, so i got up, went to the bathroom, released myself of urine, also consider getting rid of some of his urination that he had put in the jugs overnight. i came back to his bedside, and got the sense that he wasn't breathing. mr. jackson was my friend, i loved him. >> couple things to take away from this, one is that he never mentions any of those phone calls to his girlfriends or his office in the hour before he notices that jackson is unresponsive. that will be something the defense is going to have to deal with later down the line. the other thing you notice is he seems to be one of the people, a long list of people, in michael jackson's life that gets caught in his web, wants to help him, and is doing things at his request. i know you're talking to deepak chopra later in the show, but the jury still got a lot of it today listening to dr. conrad murray. piers? >> as always, thank you very much. gerard butler's career took off in his role in "300." his latest is a searing performance in "machine gun preacher." gerard butler joins me now. jerry, i think you're preferred to be known. americans call you gerard. you're irish decent, but you're scottish, aren't you? >> that's right. >> scotland they never say gerard. >> they say jerad. >> let's start with your physique, because you look, unfortunately -- you're looking great, but i want to show you, luckily, a picture from last year where you weren't in such a great shape. i prefer the gerard on the left, you know why, it's more like me, so that men like me look to you in the shot on the left and thought fantastic, then to our utter horror you emerged from a soccer match in britain on the right looking like that. >> i saw those photos, and that changed my life, actually. >> did it really? >> really, really did. >> tell me about that. >> so i was -- i was on holiday with a buddy down in barbados and i just finished -- i forget what movie it was, but i trained pretty heavily for the movie and was taking some time off, and i noticed i was eating more and more and kept thinking i should be careful, and then i was actually getting in the water and looked over and saw this boat in the distance and saw the -- >> you thought no! >> even i didn't realize how awful it was going to look or how big of a -- >> can i remind you, your idea of awful is my idea of responsibly good naked, so you have to be careful with your language here. >> awful for me, considering where i'd been, you know. >> so you were properly upset by it. >> in truth, it didn't look great, didn't kill me, but it did lead me to be a little more cognizant of what i was eating. >> when that second picture came out, which is an extraordinary image, what did you feel then, a kind of sense of absolute euphoria? >> no, i look rkds, look at the hair, the tongue. >> no one is looking at your hair, it's the six-pack. extraordinary. i want to take you back to scotland, you grew up in scotland, and you were supposed to be a lawyer, this was the plan. you were going to be a good, conscientious lawyer, then you became a trainee lawyer, then incredibly, one of the only people in history to get fired as a training lawyer. that's pretty difficult. >> i don't think it's ever happened before actually. >> you went to a famous festival in scotland and got wrecked, right? >> this is a great start to an interview, here you are fat, now let's talk about the time you were fired. >> is it any consolation, we'll come to the bit you get jailed in the l.a. county jail. this is the good stuff. this will start descending, trust me. >> taxi. >> so here you are, fired as a trainee lawyer, what does your mum say to you in that moment, game plan has dramatically changed. >> she wasn't there at that moment, thank god. it was a room full of lawyers. if i could have had her there, have a word with them. even then it would have been too late. it was a very sad moment for me at that point, because i don't come from a family of lawyers, it was a big deal that i was going to law school. my mom, you know, talking about irish mothers, very proud, my boy's going to be a lawyer, then one week before qualifying i had to call her and say i've just been fired, and it was a -- it was a tough moment in my life, it was tough for her to hear that it just happened to her son. then in the next breath she said what are you going to do, i said well, move to london and become an actor, i'm going to get my [ bleep ] together. >> was the problem, which turned out to be a blessing in disguise, but was the problem before you got fired, you'd been to america for a year, i think, with some irish mates and were living in venice beach and drank yourselves into oblivion for a year, is it true? >> this is funny, who have you been talking to? >> done a little research. >> i was 21. i had taken a summer in america when i was younger, but this was the end of my law degree, came for the summer, i knew when i got back things were going to get much more serious. in truth, it was covering up darker, which i knew i was heading totally down the wrong track. >> you had this thing inside you burning away, but before we get to the crater spot, i do want to know about the night in the l.a. county jail. >> okay. well, what happened -- [ laughter ] >> is the memory flooding back? you were actually shackled, right? >> i was shackled, yeah. what was it, i think it was -- i think it was drunk driving or something silly. i was kind of out of control in those days. >> was that a wake-up moment? >> yeah, but in truth i had a few of them. i could write a book about moments like that. >> we all have moments like this. you're not alone. you're not the first guy with irish blood with a few drinks in his life. but you have this wake-up moment, you come back, you don't get through the law thing, so the whole sort of plan for you, which was going to be, i think, pretty dull, you were going to leave -- i think you said this, you were going to lead this life as a small town lawyer in scotland. it's not that exciting. >> what i realized was up until that point, i had that energy with me, but i didn't know what to do with it. the one thing it was not made for was a career as a lawyer. can you imagine sitting in that office and feeling that pulse? >> do you ever wonder what may have happened if you passed your law degree, if you passed exams, if you'd come a lawyer? >> yeah, i don't think i would have - -- i don't think i'd be alive today to be honest, and i don't say that lightly. i was living my life in a very unhealthy way, and i needed to be told that it wasn't happening. i needed to be stopped, because otherwise i'd just have kept going thinking i would have got away with it, then -- so no, you know, one, i would not have been fulfilling my purpose, i wouldn't have been -- god knows where i would have ended up. >> what was your mother's honest opinion when you fled to london away from this career as she mapped out, as you say, tough catholic mum, her boy is supposed to be this well-groomed lawyer, racing off to be an actor in london, what did she think? >> i think she threw up her hands and thought i've created a monster, who knew? >> when the monster thrived and succeeded and ever more succeeded, did her view change quite quickly? >> she did. by the way, i'm not giving her fair credit. she wrote me the most beautiful letter when i went to london, and i didn't expect it, because my mother and i, we're very, very close, very intense relationship, and she wouldn't let me go on anything, so i expected her to be -- to be way more heavy handed with what had happened, but she wrote me this letter that said i want you to know i support you in whatever you do, as long as it makes you happy i'll be there for you. >> what does she make of what's happened to you? >> she loves it, she loves it. it gives her a chance to do her performing thing, my boy, and she claims she doesn't, but whatever she goes, did you know gerard butler, that's my son. she'll find a way. she'll find a way to get that into any conversation. >> let's take a short break. when we come back, i want to get into the movie of yours. at adt, we get financing from ge capital. but they also go beyond banking. we installed a ge fleet monitoring system. it tracks every vehicle in their fleet. it cuts fuel use. koch: it enhances customer service. it's pretty amazing when people who loan you money also show you how to save it. not just money, knowledge. it's so much information, it's like i'm right there in every van in the entire fleet. good day overall. yeah, i'm good. come on in. let's go. wow, this is fantastic. ge capital. they're not just bankers. we're builders. they helped build our business. from centrum. omega-3s go beyond heart health. probiotics go beyond digestive balance. and fruit & veggie has antioxidant properties. new pronutrients from centrum. help make nutrition possible. sfr hey, get up, let's go. get a move on, get up. hey, come on, get up. >> what are you doing? >> let's go, get up. they ain't sleeping out here. tell them, they are coming inside. come on, get up. let's go. >> sam. sam. there are too many. we can't help them all. >> well, i can take these ones here. >> gerard butler's latest movie, this is serious, intense, visceral, it's raw, everything you'll want in a powerful movie, you're all over this, you're a star in it, you produced it. why this? >> it's the way you introduced the movie is the very same reason i wanted to do it. i read the script and thought this is such a remarkable story of one man's jury where he really took on the world. i loved all the themes in it, religion, you know, just had a powerful belief in god, fighting one's own demons, and this situation in africa. >> very quickly sum up what the film's about. >> so, i play a man called sam childers who was a drug addict, you know, violent man who lived in pennsylvania who finally got his life together, found god, went down to do some missionary work in africa where he witnessed atrocities in sudan, and it changed his life, and he ended up, one, becoming a preacher, but two, fighting to build an orphanage and also he started fighting the rebel forces who were kidnapping these children to bring them back into the orphanage, so he's got a bible in the one hand and machine gun in the other. while still trying to have a family in pennsylvania and building a church there and still dealing with his own demons, because he's a dark soul. >> god-fearing bad boy sees the light, parallels as you were filming, thinking -- very different story line. >> sometimes you read a script and you don't know why, you just think i connect with this, then it's almost embarrassing to say it out loud that i would feel parallels to that, because, of course, what he's achieved is so much more than me, i didn't start fighting in a war, but at the same time i felt a lot of parallels, and you try and force those parallels on to the character as well. >> it's a cliche question, but did it make you reassess yourself, your sense of what's important in life? >> absolutely. when you see these kids, and they have nothing and they abide by a very simple way of living, and they truly have nothing, and yet they look at you and it's just about you, it's only you and what, you know, who you are. there's nothing gets in between that, and you think what do i really need, what do i really need except some simple believes and some friendships, and so without a doubt, and it also reaffirms your faith in humanity as to where we could be even with nothing. >> watch another clip from the movie here. >> they burnt it down. nothing left. >> where are you? it's a test, sam. >> i can't do it no more, lynn. it's over. >> sam? >> yeah. >> can you hear me? >> yeah, i can hear you. >> them kids have had their whole lives burnt to the ground and worse, how many of them do you see giving up? >> when you finish scenes like that, how do you unwind after, can you or does it hang with you for a long time? >> it hangs with you for awhile, and with this movie there was very much a cumulative affect, because from day one you find yourself playing more and more of these scenes where you're having some kind of breakdown via drugs or family pressures, and then, of course, in africa where it went to such huge proportions of depression and despair that after awhile it became -- this movie was definitely a journey and a lot of darkness for me. >> do you feel slightly mentally scarred by what you had to see? >> yeah, i do. yeah, i was amazed that i struggled with it like i did. i definitely had an emotional reaction to it, and i would during the movie, sometimes i'd sit there and i would start -- i would just start crying, and find myself in a really -- reminded me of places that i'd been in my darker days when i was younger when i thought -- when i thought life couldn't get much worse really. >> there's a remarkably powerful kind of moral divide issue that's raised by sam and real-life sam asking an audience one question. i want to ask everyone if your child or family member was abducted today, if a madman came in, terrorist came in and abducted your family or child and i said to you can i bring your child home, does it matter how i bring him home. fascinating question. have you asked yourself that question? what would be the answer? >> i mean, i would give anybody free power to do whatever they wanted to if it was a family member of mine, and i myself would do it, you know, and i think if somebody were to take a family member of mine, there's nothing i wouldn't do to get them back, and there has been all kinds of debates, and i love that this movie brings this up, this controversy is what -- can you put wrong against wrong, violence against violence, and who does he think he is to decide he's the arbiter of this, but this is an insane situation and there isn't anyone who could say good about -- >> they have no morality. >> no morality, they kill everybody, ritualize killing, they rape, sexually enslave the women, turn the children into child soldiers. >> remarkably powerful and important film. i hope everyone goes to see it, going to lighten the load a bit, come back and talk to something that may bring a smile to your face, because it normally does, women. hi. kristin. and, you... 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