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deep enough to get a sense of what's happening here. this was really the hardest hit county so far in the state. county saw 25 inches of rain in the last several days. keep in mind also there was a wind event. this storm packed a punch. winds gusting at 45 miles per hour. strong enough to knock over several things, knock down some trees and cause a lot of problems with debris in the roads. here along this coastal road, we are finding that police are in place to make sure that drivers are not surprised when they ran past those low lying areas when they find again, water at least a foot high, so precautions are being taken. i also want to show you what's happening right now. just east of us in the state, flooding is happening right now in cities like live oak and lake city, that's where they are dealing with the storm system as it goes very slowly over the state of florida causing a lot of flooding, soledad. >> george howell, updating us on what looks like a big giant mess in florida. thanks for that update, we'll continue to check with you all morning. let's get to alexandra steele, in for rob this morning. >> good morning, soledad, where george is the worst is over but the axis of the heaviest rain has moved on. moving east at 3 miles per hour, that's good news, yesterday stationary, kind of in a dead zone with no forward momentum. 45-mile-per-hour winds and no strengthening expected today. here's the path from the national hurricane center, moves onshore early tomorrow then we'll see it push eastward. finally beginning to see the end. in terms of what we've seen for the worst of it, here's where we've seen in tallahassee, 10 to 20 inches and now moving eastward. can you see southeast georgia, really will get hit with maybe 10 to 20 inches of rain as well. in storm total, maybe another 4 to 8 completely. so the axis of the heaviest rain moving eastward as the storm moves east ward. the extreme threat, heavy rain and flooding, but also the storm surge and isolated tornadoes we saw not out of the picture as well. finally, soledad, a bit of momentum as tropical storm debby moves east. >> thanks for that update. we'll continue to check in with you throughout the day on that. more rain to come, florida's governor rick scott declared a state of emergency. first, christine will update the headlines for us, good morning. >> good morning, arizona declaring victory this morning, even though the supreme court struck down most of the controversial immigration law. the justices upheld the part of the law that critics had the biggest problem with, the part that gives police power to say, show me your papers. arizona sheriff joe arpaio says it changes nothing. >> we arrest anybody who violates the law, we don't care where they are from. a lot of people come from mexico and they are here illegally, that's not my problem. >> in a few minutes, soledad will be joined by carlos gutierrez for the campaign's response to that supreme court ruling. the most anticipated supreme court decision is set for thursday when the supreme court will release its decision on president obama's health care law. it could toss the individual mandate which requires every american to have health insurance or pay a penalty. feeling the harlem heat, a long time congressman fighting for his career today. 82-year-old charlie rangel is squaring off against three opponents in today's democratic primary. rangel, who was chairman of the committee who writes the nation's tax code was censured on the house floor in 2010 for not paying taxes on a beach front villa on the dominican republic. earlier we spoke to clyde williams. >> i used to work for president clinton and president obama. >> do you have their endorsements? >> president clinton said he would not endorse charlie rangel because i was involved in the race. president obama has not endorsed a democratic incumbent which is typically the norm for a president sitting in office. >> congressman rangel will be here to respond at 8:15 eastern on starting point. turkey changing its military rules of engagement with syria. turkey's prime minister says they will treat any military approach from syria as a thread. this stems from the downing of a turkish fighter jet, calling it a hostile act. the creep factor playing a part in the decision to put away convicted child molester jerry sandusky. two jurors talking about what they witnessed on ac 360. one says sandusky couldn't hide his expressions in court. >> i didn't see anything in the victims that would lead me to think they were not credible. but then i also took a look at sandusky while he was watching the victims testify and it seemed to be that he was kind of recommend nising of the victims. >> what do you mean? >> lean in towards them and pick his chin up a little bit and kind of -- like he was thinking about the victims and his behavior with them. >> that struck you as creepy. >> yeah, i would say, a little creepy. >> sandusky was convicted on 45 of 48 counts of child sexual abuse. he'll likely spend the rest of his life in prison. in fact, the sentencing guidelines are something like 400 years soledad. >> 90 days before they figure out when sentencing comes. thank you. more on the supreme court's decision on arizona's controversial immigration law. court struck down three parts of the law but upheld the section that allows police officers to check a person's immigration status while enforcing other laws. the obama administration expressed support for the decision says it will not be a willing partner in arizona's efforts to arrest undocumented people unless they meet federal criteria. mitt romney's camp remains kind of evasive while campaigning in arizona. mitt romney did not say whether or not he agreed with the high court's ruling, instead at a private fundraiser he said this. >> supreme court decision related to the immigration and you know, given the failure of the immigration policy in this country, i would have preferred to see the supreme court give more latitude to the states, not less, and the states now in this decision have less authority, less latitude to enforce immigration laws. >> carlos gutierrez is the honorary co-chair of the romney campaign's hispanic steering committee and the former commerce secretary under president george w. bush, he's an immigrant himself from cuba. nice to see you, as always. >> pleasure. >> this was interpreted as a win, big win if you listen to jan brewer, she said it was a victory for the rule of law and people of arizona and people of america, victory for the tenth amendment. do you see this as a victory? >> i see this as one big mess throughout the country and the reason that we're in this mess is because the president has failed to provide leadership. what's going to happen now, soledad, it's going to get worse because we don't have that leadership. all states are going to start splintering and keep on splintering the country into different immigration laws when what we should have is leadership to have one national immigration policy, which is exactly what governor romney wants to do. >> let's talk about governor romney specifically. what exactly is his position on sb 1070. does he support the one provision that now stands? >> well, let me say this, soledad, and i have been for immigration reform as long as i can remember and i have the battle scars to prove it, but i believe that as the governor does, that every country in the world has the right and the obligation to secure its borders, to knows who's coming in and know who's leaving, it's a right and obligation, every country does it. what is alarming here is that there appears to be a need to convince the president that part of his job is to secure the borders and part of his job is to ensure that we know who's coming in and who's going out -- we shouldn't be arguing about this. >> my question was not about president obama, my question was about mitt romney and specifically this one provision of sb 1070. does he support it as it now stands? >> as i mentioned, the governor supports the right of border states and the country at large to protect its border, to protect its integrity. it's not an anti-immigration -- >> that is not the question, i get it. i think there's a zil onpeople who agree with you. on this particular thing, what has been interesting to me to see the degree to which mitt romney has been dodging what is kind of a yes/no question. let me play a little bit of i think his name is rick gorg a, speaking to reporters on the planes, 16 questions he was asked by reporters, dodge, dodge, dodge. listen. >> this debate is sprung from the president failing to address this issue so each state it leflt and has the power to draft and enact their own -- >> very specific thing, the governor supports the arz arizona law saturday. >> we've addressed this. >> what had his position. >> each state has a right within the constitution to craft their -- >> does he think arizona did a good job? >> that went on for seven full minutes. the part of the law that stands in sb 1070, requires police to check immigration status of anyone they detain or arrest if that person is in the country illegally. does mitt romney support sb 1070, yes or no? >> soledad, it's a little bit more complicated -- >> it's not. >> but what the governor has said and made a statement yesterday, he supports the right of border states to do what they have to do according to the law -- >> does that include -- does that include stopping and detaining anyone and check the immigration status of that person if they have reasonable suspicion if the person is in the country illegally? i'm not sparring with you, sir, as you know, this is the critical, central, most controversial portion of this bill and governor romney has not said if he supports it or not. >> this is not about governor romney -- >> it is if he wants to be president. >> about obama's lack of leadership. >> some democrats would agree but we're talking about romney at this moment. >> we shouldn't distract the situation and put it on governor romney's lap. >> i want to know what his position is. >> his position is that we have a mess and need a national policy. let's talk about his policy. i agree. let's talk about his policy. i think there's a zilon people agree we have a mess on our hands. governor romney wants to be the next president of the united states. what does he think about 1070 it's a yes/no question, support, don't support, yes, no? >> i'm sorry, soledad, that's where we've got this all wrong. policy is not this one single sliver. >> in this case it is. it is actually one sliver, three were shot down by the supreme court. >> the policy is we need a national, federal, immigration policy -- >> agreed, agreed, agreed. but specifically on this question, i feel like and i think a rational person would agree with me, governor romney and his people who speak for him or completely dodging this questions. let's move on. >> governor romney supports the right of the states to protect their borders. >> that's not my question. my question is not that. that's a great answer but not to my question. my question is about sb 1070. he has not said if he supports it or not. we're going to agree to move on i'm not getting an answer. we'll talk about the dream act, which i know you support and mitt romney, as you well know, he has said he would veet to th dream act if he got elected into office and hasn't said what he would do in the wake of president's executive order which would allow young people who came krogs the border without documents illegally in this country. what would he do for those -- would he reverse -- >> i'll tell you what governor romney is going to do when he becomes president. he wants to bring together a bipartisan group to finally get this issue reverse. >> what he reverse the executive order? >> why would he say what he's going to do when we have a congress that hasn't done its job. this is an opportunity to push congress to do something before this -- this executive order, executive decision lapses. so governor romney wants to tackle the problem and wants to solve the problem, soledad. we have had a president -- >> he wants to solve the problem, sir, without giving any details, this is fair to say. we've had a five minute conversation and no to simple questions and no answer. >> we want a strategy for legal immigration, we'll have to work in a bipartisan way to deal with the 12 million undocumented workers, it's a very complex thing. you want a one sentence for a 700-page bill. what we do know is that -- >> i don't think that's fair, i want a one sentence answer to a simple question. i'm willing to talk for hours -- >> let's do it. >> i do think we're very low on specifics. would he overturn an executive order is a yes/no question? does he support 1070, it's a yes/no question? you're not the only romney spokesperson who doesn't answer that question. >> you're making this issue about governor romney, this is an issue about president obama's total lack of leadership and delivering on promises, that's why we're in this megs. >> and i believe you and i could have a conversation about that as well. >> that's the issue. >> we're distracting, for republicans it's the issue and you want to say it's all president obama's fault and you can absolutely have that conversation. i want to know, what the plan is when it comes to governor romney. a separate issue of president obama and there are democrats who would agree with you. for governor romney what's the plan? >> what he wants to do, instead of a patch work, instead of a dream act, supposed dream act that expires in two years, he wants something permanent. >> specifics. and not legal, talk to me about illegal immigration, name specifics he's going to do. >> he wants to work in a bipartisan way -- >> that's not specific. >> if you like, we can go through 700 pages. >> you and i are going to do that, sir. >> you are trying to simplify something that is terribly complex. what is clear and really simple is that we have not had leadership on this issue and that's why we have the mess we have today. >> i think you're trying to make more complicated something that is a yes/no question but i'm going to take you up on your offer that we'll go through all 700 pages. nice to see you, sir, to spar with you early in the morning first thing. thank you. we're going to continue this later on "start beingiing point to luther strange, similar legislation has been proposed there and the former arizona state senator russell pearce will be our guest as well. we'll talk about what's happening in florida where there's a state of emergency. tropical storm debby dumping rain for days. florida governor rick scott will join us live this morning. hey big spender, mac users seem to be shelling out more for the stuff they buy online. it's our get real. you don't want to miss our next hour. we'll talk to jade did pia pink smith. 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