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CNNW The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer January 27, 2012



politics in-depth. i'm wolf blitzer in florida, you're in the "situation room." >> the dust is settling here in jacksonville, florida, after our very exciting cnn republican presidential debate last night. and there's new evidence that mitt romney is gaining support four days before florida puts its stamp on the republican race for the white house. the new poll shows romney nine points ahead of gingrich among likely gop primary voters here in florida. the survey was taken tuesday through thursday entirely before our debate last night. gingrich was leading romney in florida earlier this week. right after he won the south carolina primary, but in the last couple of days, he clearly lost some of that momentum here in florida. and he's now trailing romney. newt gingrich came out swinging in debate here in jacksonville, but some campaign watchers think he was off his game last night. our chief political analyst gloria borger listened to every word of the debate. she was here in jacksonville, now back in washington. romney seemed to do rather well last night, gingrich seemed a little bit off. was that your sense? >> it was my sense, wolf. it was almost oddly as if he didn't come into the debate with any kind of a strategic game plan. i mean when you asked him the question that was predictable from his point of view about mitt romney's tax return. something he'd been talking about every single day in south carolina, he tried not to answer the question, but rather to turn the question right back on you. so take a listen. >> just want to reiterate and ask you, are you satisfied right now with the level of transparency as far as his personal finances? >> wolf, you and i have a great relationship, goes back a long way, i'm with him. this is a nonsense question. look -- how about the four of us debate the rest of the evening and -- >> mr. speaker, you made an issue of this this week when you said that he lives in a world of swiss bank and cayman island bank accounts. i didn't say that, you did. >> i did, and i'm perfectly happy to say that on an interview on some tv show. but you have a chance to -- >> but if you make a serious accusation against governor romney like that, you need to explain that. >> and wolf, at that point after you said that, mitt romney chimed right in, didn't he? because he was willing to turn it right back on newt gingrich, right? >> well, even before mitt romney chimed in, newt gingrich looked over at rick santorum as if appealing to rick santorum, back me up. get me out of this. and rick santorum remained silent. didn't say a word. i'm not coming in to help you on this one. at which point there was a pause for a brief second. and then, and then mitt romney really went after newt gingrich. how dare -- i'm paraphrasing, how dare you say these things about me, these public accusations and then he really went after him. it was one of those moments, obviously, i'll always remember, i suspect mitt romney will remember it, newt gingrich will, as well. it was one of those clear moments -- look, i was fully prepared that he was going to try to come after the news media during this debate, which is something he's done in several of the debates over these past many months. but i did my homework and i was prepared. i didn't want him to obviously get away with, you know, get away with that kind of behavior now. serious issues, he makes serious allegations against mitt romney, says it publicly repeatedly, he needed to explain it. he couldn't just walk away from it. but let me talk about another flash point in the debate right now. it was over immigration. and romney radio ad and whether romney used some words that gingrich had said out of context. listen to this. >> is he still the most anti-immigrant candidate? >> of the four of us, yes. >> go ahead, governor. >> that's inexcusable. and actually, senator marco rubio came to my defense and said that ad was inexcusable, inflammatory, and inappropriate. my father was born in mexico, my wife's father born in wales. the idea i'm anti-immigrant is repulsive. >> pretty strong words. >> on this issue, on this issue, gloria, mitt romney is running to the right of newt gingrich on the issue of immigration reform. >> well, it's very interesting. because, of course, in iowa and south carolina, which really do not have the hispanic populations of the state of florida, he was running to the right. newt gingrich had said you're not going to deport people who have deep roots in this country. and then romney said last night at the debate. he said, look, this isn't about 11 million grandmothers who have been here for 25 years or so, but he is softening his position. that is true. in the state of florida. he's softening his position on the dream act, for example, he's softening his position and saying that he would agree to "self-deportation." of some illegal immigrants. so it's clear that he's moving a little bit closer to newt gingrich because 12% of registered republicans in the state of florida are hispanic. >> gloria's going to be back with us later. we have a lot more to assess and dissect from last night's debate. standby, gloria. all campaigning here in florida today. ron paul, though, is in maine. maine holding its caucuses early next month. cnn's jim acosta covering all the battle for florida. jim? >> reporter: wolf, mitt romney is riding high after last night's cnn debate, but newt gingrich is pulling out the big guns to stop romney. mitt romney just can't stop talking about the cnn debate. >> i thought it was a delightful debate. i loved it. >> have you checked your own investments? you also have investments from mutual funds also invested in fannie mae and freddie mac. >> after a strong showing of several takedowns of his arch rival newt gingrich, he got more good news when he found out he's back on top in the latest poll in florida. >> what kind of man would mislead, distort, and deceive just to win an election? this man would. >> reporter: but gingrich has a new ad out turning romney's debate performance against him highlighting when he tried to explain why he once voted for a democrat in the 1992 massachusetts presidential primary. >> i've never voted for a democrat when there was a republican on the ballot. >> reporter: actually, republicans george h.w. bush and pat buchanan were on that ballot. >> it was an incumbent running against pat buchanan, and by the time super tuesday rolled around, there really wasn't much of a contest at all. s so as an independent, he voted against bill clinton. >> meanwhile, a pro-gingrich super pac is hammering bain capital, which owned a medical testing company which pleaded guilty to medicare fraud back in the '90s. romney was on the company's board at the time. and at hispanic leadership conference, gingrich slammed the goal to have the 11 million illegal immigrants self-deport. gingrich said that should not apply to undocumented grandmothers. >> the idea she's going to self-deport? this is a fantasy. it's not a solution. . >> romney also under fire for latino civil rights group over his threat to veto the dream act, a bill that would provide legal status to undocumented children who enter the military or go to college. earlier this month, a supporter of the bill hounded romney coming out of a fundraiser. >> i've already said across the country -- >> why aren't you supporting my dream? i didn't come here illegally. >> but at that conference, romney says he may now support parts of the bill. >> we are not anti-immigrant, we are not anti-immigration, we are the pro-immigration, pro-legality, pro-citizenship nation and party. >> a report from jim acosta on the scene for us from florida. big-money donors, meanwhile, who love the clintons are being tight fisted right now when it comes to president obama and his reelection campaign. we're taking a closer look at what they're doing, what they're saying, stand by. and mitt romney says he didn't know about some of his investments because they were in a blind trust, but he refused to let a previous opponent get away with that same excuse. ring, ring. hello, progresso. it fits! fantastic! ring, ring. progresso. they fit! awesome. thank you. 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>> well, i think somebody close to president obama who expressed what he wanted, what he needed. i don't have any feedback, and that was the antithesis of my relationship with president clinton. >> can obama win here in the general? >> absolutely. >> he gave over $175,000 to democrats since 2007, but not a dime directly to president obama. >> the finance, the democratic national committee. if he comes to meet with me, you think he would know that. he had no clue. he has no clue. >> he was also a major friend of bill and his friends who are big obama donors complain this president isn't so good with thank you notes, phone calls, little things that make heavy hitters happy. >> he's not bill clinton, what can i tell you? >> steven has raised more than $100,000 for president obama and he's heard about the unhappy clintonistas before. >> there's no question that the clinton era raised donor appreciation to a new level, never seen before, never likely that we're going to see it again. i don't do this because i expect a pat on the back or a thank you. i don't expect the president to be my friend, i expect the president to work hard and do a great job and make our country better. >> reporter: given the money needed to run for office, donor maintenance is a big part of the job and the obama team can't afford to leave any money on the sidelines. john morgan hosted the president at his house and says the president has the personal touch, he's seen it. >> if i can give one word to describe the president is cool. he is a very cool guy. he's a guy you want to sit on the backyard and shoot the breeze with. even though he's the president, he makes you that comfortable. >> as for ira -- >> i have a feeling you'll get a phone call after this airs, from someone. >> who knows. the call may be from president clinton saying, thank you for those nice words. the chances are great i'll get a call from former president clinton than from president obama. >> reporter: but with 1.3 million donors and $224 million already in the bank, the president's hardly hurting for money. and the president's fundraisers believe once he squares up against a republican opponent, even clinton lovers will start to pony up the money. waffle? 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