0 whatwh do i get? i got a role. what's what's the great tonight? but anywhere.way, coll, i tell you what, as far as i'm concerned, you're alwayns a you might have some issuesav that i have a problem with . and of course, with what's going on .say this but all right. i did say we got it right. oh, my god, we love you. next week, random people, not one eight hundred nine for one , sean, three to six on radio. >> laura's next.ura' have a great nights ne. this is laura ingraham and this is the ingraham angle. after eleven votes, weingr stil don't have a speaker of the house, but a high levelgh l source is telling the englisevhm angle late tonight thatngle tont kevin mccarthy is closer to peeling off at least twelvep more supporters. but that still doesn't get himo to 218.'re we're going to talk with one ogl the holdouts, congressman elect matt gaetz, in moments. >> butth first, disturbing new details about the brutal murders of four idaho college students, including who in i the house sancw the suspect and how many times the suspecte was actually in the house or around the house before the murders took place. joining me now from moscow, idaho, is fox is chief correspondent jonathan hunt. jonathan , these details are unbelievable. thgrisly and shocking to manyy americans. what can you tell us tonight? yeah, laura , they are indeed grizzly and shocking. and investigators saygato the evidencers against brian koeberg speaks volumes even as the accused killern as th himself had very little to say in court today. >> listen here. do you understan>>d thes de rigs ? yes.w go i am not going to go with the criminal complaint with you. >> as 28 year old koeberg addressed in that orange jumpsuit, listened to the charges against him. gait officials also released the probable cause affidavit revealing the dna evidence, vehicle surveillance footage and cell phone records led them to koeberg. police say they found, for instance, a knife sheath in the house where the fourthey university of idaho students nin were stabbed to death. and onth that sheath, a dnabed o sample, which they say dt they matchedsheath a burger wit9 percent certainty after retrieving trash from the koeberg a family residence in pennsylvania. r retrievia white hyundai elanta registered to vote koeberg was also seen on surveillance video multiple timess illanc near thee the murders in the early morning hours of november 13th. early it's the same elantra. police say kobilka and his father were driving when indiana police pulled them over for a traffis c violation as the pair drove across countrya traf a month after the murders.he mo the affidavit also says koberg self phones suddenly stopped pinging cell towers aroundting the time of the murders, rding indicating, according to police, that itto may have been deliberately turned off. but they say it did show up near the victim's house 12 times2 in the weeks, and months before the killings. according to policace, is a possible sign that h oe wase stalking one or more of the victimd plannis and planninu the killings. and perhaps more of the most chilling parra, tht of the affi was the revelation that a roommate omate of the victimsy actually saw the alleged killer having opened her bedroom door because she heard crying and acg male voice saying, it's okay, ml i'm going to help you. that roommate told police shetod saw a man who was dressed entirely in black and wearing a mask walking towards her. s shhue hurriedly shot and locked her bedroom door. the man left the building. police say that man was brian koeberg laura .know jonathan , i know it's been a long day for you. thank you very much. tonight, and as jonathan just said, this was just a wild tale that we learned in this affidavit, something that we had never heard before. that one of the roommates of the victims actually crossed paths with the murderer. now,nt to the extent that she could reveal that what he looked like, he said she saw bushy eyebrows, that he waswearn wearing a mask. mask response, we noticed today, is being trashed all over social media because after seeing him, she as brian juste s ran back into her room, shein locked the door. >> joining me no w is jonathan gilliam, former fbi special agent brian foley, former homicide detectivean, formerharo hartford chief of detectives. >> brian , i'm trying to think about this for a moment. you know, it's the middle of apn the night. there are people apparently coming in and out of this houste a lot. i think they left the door open of the house a lot. and now people, in retrospect, with 20/20 hindsight, are judgin g the harshest way.way, t this roommate for having close the door and locked the door at the time. is there such a thing as being paralyzed with fear if you're y victctim or a potential victimou of a crime? absolutely. >> but first, let me make one thing clear . there is only one person to bele vilified here, and that's the monster that killed thosed l fourled th people hard stop rigt there to vilify this witnessnes is is wrong. look a t you don't know how you're going to react inas p certain situations as cops. we train for i. t and we wef so many scenarios and we think h of how we're going to react. the average person you don't know how you're going to react.t yohe su don't know the scenario. you just perfectly describedmove what that house was probablynt like. the movement after hours youa fo had you had an uber or a fooddrf drop off at 4:00 a.mf . fromgoi a door dash.on there's a lot going on there. i , i know witnesses that have lived with this, and it is an awful, awful thing to live with for the rest of your entire life. and i feel bad that she's in that scenario. it's horrible that it's so easy to judge and we all say how weer would react. >> bottom line, you don'e gointw how you're going to react. there's one bad guy in thise ba situation. he's behinguy d bars. >> and jonathan, a vap shop employee. this is another detail that weoh learn had several interactions with the victims. >> revealed something rather disturbing as well. fiv >> watch this.s four or five girls at most all the time they come in together. and i made a joke about it earlier. it was like, you know, c cominoe together and stuff like that, you knowe , just i see you guys trying to stay safe . and one of the more orng les tos openly that's. oh, yeah, we'vste haalked a frif ours be stalked before. so thi s is kind of why we all travel in a group like this. maddie said it and it is kind of like my mentioning, like, motioning to kayleigh to liketor who is right nex. t to jonan again, we're just learning about this and more details. but did you ever think that this was a , quote, random attack of someone who had never met or never come into contact with any of these individuals? did you ever think that? well, i mean, ted bundy showed that that can happen. and in fact, he did randomlyhapp go up to severalen people t and kill or attempt to kill people.r at so it caten happenmpt to kil. you have to remember of thesers people are hunters, bu t i thik in this case, what the evidence shows is that he was very interested in that neighborhood. is specifically where thatg st house was on king street, leading uprethat tim to that tiu and i want to i want to sayg, ta one other thing. things about this whole thint cg that comes back to what youet se were just talking aboutut with these internet sleuths. these are the people that predominantly go after individuals online and they vilify people. and it's a very copemahan realiy . it's a very like a hivelt men mentality. ta, a hivewhere they pounce on and what this young lady didze when she got froze in the way wr this worked out, sheked actually disrupted this individual's attack. i believe, and then he left. i and who shnde could have beenn e the next victim had she not come out there and startled him. soxt he not the way these thingk out and the way these these psychopathic killers work, that's just the way that they are. can be they're they're they're very aggressive, but they can be startled, very easy. and i wouldn't be surprised if we find out that this guy hasw t killed multiple people. we know that he stalked people or was at least going to a puby or a brewery there in pennsylvania. e and was asking bizarre questions of women. so we know that he has a pattern of this behavior. brian , why do you think that the police well, they allowed people, again, to trash lawle aa enforcemenint, speaking of trashing people, i mean, law enforcement was being dragged through the mud because people thought, why don't you have law enforcement was dragged a suspect? it went on for some time, but it does demonstrate, does it not, the methodical nature necessarily. of putting together a solidsusp case againstec a suspect. that's what happened here. so as as painful as beginning part of the warrant is in. you actually relive the crime, the the as the cop reading through the arrest warrantg after that for a four yeare arre cop , an medium sized policehi department out there, this is one heck of a warrant.k i know w we had big brother helping him write the warrant, but this is an amazing investigator and very tight. and the the police cops aren'tss in the busines os of naming suspects. they're the they're in the business of arresting people and convictin arresting g them. and i know how frustrating it is . and they did. i think, a decent job of really keeping the confidence of the entireent jo country as to,. know, they communicated as much as the cated asy can and they a knew something. and they did tipfew their hands a few times. conference. some the press conference, there was a captain that said they were narrowing down and somebody probably abouthey w t three weeks ago and that told me it's coming. it wa he's he was confident that it was going to be an arrest. >> so they also have to keep the victims families confident in their investigation. and that is very difficult to do. family coninvestion. the fam. it's the worst time in anyone's life, as you can imagine. e, so i think they did a good jobbf in maintaining confidence and they were holdings cl their cards close to their chest. this is a cat and mouse game. it rest .in'tabout >> it's about convictions. and that's why they're going after. >> jonathan o'brien, thank youhf so much tonight. great to see both of you . l f theand despite all these detai that we got today from this affidavit, questions thi stillld swirling tonight, like didid? the killer say anything else? did his parents really have no idea that he was involved?nv olved in any criminality? and why were some people in the house spared? others were not, obviously. how familiar was with suspect with the victims? >> joining m e now is john kelly , expert criminal profiler who's interviewed numerous serial killers, including john wayne gacy. now, john , there was a witness to this. again, the roommate who saw the murderer as he was walking down the stairs. he walked right by her and presumably as he was leaving, which leads a lot of people to wonder why did he leave her? why why didn't he get rid of a potential witness against him? >> why would tha t be ?>> i yo tu know, i think he was inheu a rush to get out of the housese floor. usually with these types of killers at a certain point. don't forgetn point,, he's tirel he's killed a number oe f people already at this point. at thitime, maybe something scag to him. and he just wanttss to put hihimself between him and the bodies as quick as possible. he just wants to get out of dodge as fast as he can. and he just felt that might be more risky. it definitely it was definitely something that he felt was in his favor. he was dressed in black and a mask on . you know, i think he just he just had his fill for tonight, wanted there was too risky form him. >> a couple of other interesting details. his sister appeare d as acharace character named laurie in this 2011 film called two days back . it was a horror flic k. s wh it was about a group of young students who go hiking in these remote woods. ng iand meet their their grislyd at the hands of this maniacal killer who's won their trust. and from everything that we've heard about the scene of this crime, john , it was horrific. >> without we don't know alle the details, but it waslice w horrific. i mean, the police were visibley shaken who arrived at the scenem . is there something i in the culture of what people are are marinating in today that could be adding to thethat c depravity of these theseou murders? >> well, it's certainly alwaysw possible. f violence all i mean, there's plenty ofjust violence all over. if you just want putre going on the television set, you're going to see violence in a lot r of differentent pl places. r ofjust really believe that this type of person, you know, just t has this volcanic rage inside that's going to explode on his victim of choice. and i think that goes without saying they all have differenta types of victims. and , you knowfere, usuallnt tyt underneath it alh l is a lot of. rage. that and of course, they wat to control and dominate l d dothe victims. >> and it's usually through detaence. and there's another detail,befoe john , before we let w you go , about his cannibalistic tendencies, he had a bizarre approach to eating. forensic psychiatrist said that he reported compulsive obsessive compulsive eating habits indicating he was afraid he'd be addicted to meat if he ate it. and it represented his strugglet against his cannibalistic urges . i mean, thisca is justalis a fr show, central. >> yeah.tral freak this is a freak show. you're absolutely right. i mean, i don't know what i'm going to hear next. right again, you w never know what you're going to your bottom line is when you look at obis obsessive compulsive behavior, if you look at every,v serial killer and we've donerc research on this, you will finhd that they have some type of obsessive compulsive behavior. and like dahmer, cannibalism is up for grabs. what can happen, jon? 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