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MSNBCW Morning Joe October 9, 2013

0 give them credit. the red sox, last place last season. now, here they are in the alcs, they host the game one on saturday fenway, they'll be favorites. they go back to the world series. >> detroit and the as and that series has been unbelievable. the as, man, talk about money ball. >> all good for baseball. >> all good for baby. this is good for baseball. you know, agser newburg. whether we want to know, obviously, that was great. >> by 07, you know what, we were starting to become what we always claimed we always hated. seriously. we paid a lot of people a lot of money. we won the world series. it's kind of hard to be self-righteous against the yankees. >> right. >> but this team, everybody is really excited about this team, they're a bunch -- they are low key guys that nobody expect -- everybody expected to be them in 3rd, 4th, 5th place. >> they were a middle of the pack team at best. i remember talking at spring training, ah, you know, we were 500 they fell a little abefore 500. they have been awesome. they got that idiate back. 2004. they had the borders, kind of strange. >> yes, it is like walk. >> yes, it is like washington. >> these guys, they're not exactly no names. man, they are stars. a lot of these guys are -- i don't know how they do it. >> at this point you can say that jim cramer is here, host of cnbc's ""mad money."". >> he's maed. >> from the huffingtop post, sam steinman. so we will get to the government >> did you bleeping hear that? can we stop having the conversation about it? oh, they had a deal, but, obama carry. we didded to take a stand. look, you think obama care is a big enough threat to this country that you need the shut down the government over it? fine. own it. don't fart and point at the dog. [ laughter ] . >> like i said, it was a little coarse. i think it makes the point. you all are laughing. >> what do you want? how true is it john meacham? >> all true. >> i'm going to the first lady's lunch. i'm a republican. i'm going to put a lot more hair spray in and fawning all over you. >> i don't think that was necessary. >> i don't understand, why does she heat first ladies in. >> he was making fun of my down to can you get an agreement? that's his precondition. he soemd opened to a short-term deal. john boehner came out and said that's unconditional surrender for republicans. i'm not sure how close heads are on negotiating to negotiate. if they were to make it no that place, where they were sitting down and talking and we didn't have the threat of the default looming over our heads and the government was reopened. the negotiations are somewhat there. paul ryan for the "wall street journal" when she talked about how theoretically republicans can give in on sequestration cuts for some sort of entitlement reform. paul ryan was immediately attacked by the senate conservative fund for not going over obama care. democrats would not like the component. those are the relatively small type dole that could taik take place him none of that will happen unless you get some sort of relief from the threat of default an a government criticize me for my tie or something. i didn't think it was going to be the reading of the question. >> you don't rode questions, do you? >> i didn't have a lot to read off my note pad. >> why do you think, john meacham? >> rookie. >> from fdr forward, i think. >>. >> i'll try better next time. sorry. >> now he said it's a good question. >> it's important. >> the staff wrote it, but, i mean, sam, i'm joking, come on. >>let move on. >> there has been one piece of common wisdom that i think deserves looking at, which is that we have never had minorities controlling the government before, that the majority has always been in control. that was implicit in president's argument yesterday. it's not introduce. southern democrats control the congress for a great chunk of the 20th century, stopping various civil rights ledges laegs that they didn't want to have happen, representing the minority view. because they master the procedural mechanics. we have been here before and even when there were adjudicated public opinion had ripened to a certain course of action, there were senators who could stop action. and so this is a part of the madisonian model here and it's something that there are no structural reforms that can i think of. >> i had a guy come out with me yesterday and say, oh, this is ful illegal. madison would say, if the house of representatives is doing something that goes against the majority of americans, guess what they're up for election every two years. >> exactly. >> and it will be corrected at the ballot box in 2014. >> what would hamilton say? you have to pay no matter what? the president backed away from the 14th amendment, we will have a recession in two to sex months. great word out from j.p. morgan talking exactly how long it takes to have a recession, two to six months, very reasonable to expect we have massive layoffs if this is true. >> if this continues, j.p. morgan, who, the guy has been the most right about it, we could be in a recession within two months. >> yes. >> by the way, jamie doirnlgsd he used to like the president. >> no, i'm saying, this is a company for conspiracy theorists for the write-up, this is wall street, no, this is a company run by agy that used to like the president, has very little right now to be honest. >> i don't disagree. >> they're saying if this continues, mika, a recession in two months, possibly. >> we have some problems right now that are direct results of the controversies. >> this is horrible. >> the bodies of four soldiers who made the ultimate sacrifice in avg will arrive at dover air force base and the family of sergeant hawkens and the others will have to pay for their own way to delaware. and pay out of their own pockets for their funerals. that's because the pentagon said it's unable to pay out debt betts benefits because of a shutdown. >> that means any servicemen member killed sense october 1st will not receive the automatic $100,000 usually paid to families within 36 hours of a death for found ral costs. it's an crash that has led to outrage on both side of the aisle. >> it's shameful and embefore a rasing. america could fail the families of our fallen heros. appalling, frightening. >> i don't care who it is or how it's shaped, let's sit down and get out of this so that these family whose loved ones just died, just died will receive the benefits at least will give them some comfort and solace in this terrible hour of tragedy. >> the house is scheduled to vote on a billed to to restore the payment, but. >> that's as low as it gets. >> pass it clone. >> the update to that story, there is a foundation out of maryland called fisher house, it says it will pick up the tab now. because this is a great country, better than the people that represent them in washington. group has stepped up and will pay for the advance grants, the flights for the families, hotels and other incidentals. it is beinging picked up by the government. >> wow. >> a couple other stories to get to. chris chris tow locks to lock up a second term as government of the garden state. last night, he met his challenger, state senator barra buono. the two spoke on a number of issues, including christie's presidential aspirations. >> people have been talking about me running for president in 2010. they said i was doing it in 2012. i said i wouldn't and i didn't. after 20, 17, i will be looking for a new job anyway. i will in the declare for you or anybody else. >> it doesn't matter whether you are running for president. it matters how you are running. >> i can walk and chew gum and do the job. i can dell with the future. >> a recent quinnipiac poll had chris tow leading 64 to 30%. that was pretty clear. >> pretty clear. isn't it interesting, sam stein, that most politicians will hedge, i'm not going to do it. they will do a don't am, a don't am, undon't am. he was basically saying, you know what i'm going to do, i'm going to run for president while i'm governor of new jersey. i can do both. what's it to you? >> he nearly had the ball there, can i walk and chew gurnlgs which is an ad mix he is running. i like the candid inside i gechlts i think it's overstated how people react to politicians with greater ambitions. i think voters get that. chris christie has been blunt throughout his term. i think people appreciate that as well. i think he has this in the balg. 46 to 30. i'm not a mathemetician. >> doesn't he lock great? he's lost a lot weight. he and coach ryan if a foot race. >> yeah, whatever race they're in. but wall street is going to be behind this guy. >> christy, wall street loves christie. >> he is firm, he understands how to create jobs. people feel he has the pulse of the country. >> i think he's going to, yeah, what does the house republican caucus make? >> i don't think they matter in the lowest. i think actually chris christie is going to be even more popular with the business community, not just on wroet, but from wroet to, you know the west coast. because he's tre angulated, just lick clinton did against the liberal house democrats. it just makes him, it's just going to make him stronger. >> really, in his outsider status has never locked better than it is right now. he doesn't have to be asked. he will bring it up on the campaign trail. taking shots at walk. that's me, not them sample joe, add to that the fact that everyone, a lot of republicans in washington traditionally pro business republicans are questioning the significance of default. they are embracing the notion of a government shutdown. i can't imagine that wall street sources, people in the community, republicans will be thrilled with having to get behind a washington, d.c. republican. so they're looking for someone like chris chris tow to emerge within the party. >> we are seeing such a dwoid yesterday, bobby jindal governor, we governors that control 60% of the governors mansions, worry getting things done and we're getting things done working with democrats. worry balancing budgets. worry growing economies. here doing everything that washington republicans are not doing. it really is, you lock at some of these republican governors, the really god job they're doing. it is a tale of two parties here. >> voters like that. it's not hard. >> in ohio, chris christie and new jersey. >> baefk amy, embracing the oil ref lougs. jindal making more jobs in texas. >> one story, in a few hours president obama will nominate janet yellin, she will be the first woman ever to lead the central bank. she is currently the fed's vice chair woman and was a key architect to keep interest rates 94 record lows, yellin would replace ben kline bernanke whose term ends in january. opposition is starting to take shape. republican senator from tennessee bob corker said in a statement, i voted against vice chairman yellin's original nomination. we will closely examine her records since that time, but i am not aware of anything that demonstrates her views have changed. >> so bob corker, as we all know around this table, is a rational guy. >> under peyton manning. >> oh, that, to. but he's a very rational guy. what's he talking about? >> i think this is a shame, i think corker is really the conscious of the senate. the same way we used to spoke about joe clark. >> howard baker, actually. people spoke of howard baker that way. what is he talking about here? >> the dovish policy is buying bonds. how pressures was ben kline bernanke when he said they weren't going to taper off bond buying, he may have to pass a dent ceiling resolution the chinese who own 1.3 trillion said yesterday, listen, very vocal t. chinese are never vocal. they said, listen, we are ready to stop. yellin supports that position. i'd like to know whether senator corker understands. i think he's a perfect goichlt at this very moment, somebody has to boy these bonds when the chinese and japanese start teleselling. >> what is yellin? >> she is a middle of the read, consensus builder. she was involved with the federal reserve during 1995 during the last shutdown. she is a person regarded as an experienced hen. >> it's kind of amazing when you think about we talk so much about elective politics. when you think of voerk, grown span, b -- voelker, greenspan, bernanke. up next, jim vandahy joins us with the politico playbook. and here's bill kierans with a check of the -- i'm scared. >> after yesterday. >> oh, boy. >> he's still here. >> it's amazing. >> do you believe they didn't fire him after yesterday? >> a suspended sentence. >> the punishment was being forced to come back again. >> oh. that's good. >> there you go. what do you got? >> unfortunately for the east coast, we sen a beautiful fall so many great days. now we have the storm coming up the coast. we will get fourks five days in a row of rain, wind, glomy weather, probably maybe until tuesday of next woke. let me take you into it show you this storm, this is combined with tropical storm karen. it feels like a tropical storm on the outer banks t. rain is moving northward into virginia beach, later no washington, d.c. this will occur over the next five days. the high to the north will protect northern new england. from new england southward to the outer banks, we will have this flow off the ocean day after day. in the middle of the country, you are great, look at washington, d.c., this takes us out through saturday and sunday. that's the worst five-day forecast in the mid-atlantic for two or three months. you are watching "morning joe" on this wednesday. lyrics: 'take on me...' ♪ ♪ 'take me home...' ♪ 'i'll be gone...' ♪ 'in a day or...' man: twooooooooooooooooo! is that me, was i singing? 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