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the family of tyre nichols is marking a painful anniversary of their own this weekend. one year ago today, the 29 year old was brutally beaten and hospitalized after a violent traffic stop and arrest by memphis police. nichols with died just three days later. five of the memphis police officers that participated in the arrest are facing state and federal charges over their roles in the confrontation. joining me now is civil rights attorney general of black america, ben crump, representing the family of tyre nichols. with him are -- tyre nichols's mother, and rodney wells, his stepfather. let me go to you first, mr. and mrs. wells, and attorney crump.

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on. because people have a tendency to forget about these tragedies. they're trying to sweep it under the rug. so justice for tyre is about justice for everyone, all those families. that's what we need. >> well, we are certainly gonna follow this. i wanted to talk a year later, i want the nation to never forget tyre. and we'll be there for a trial. rowvaughn and broadly no i'll be there whenever they call, and we need to go through that together. because it's a painful time for them. and you, attorney crump, for everything that you do, blessings all year long. rowvaughn and rodney wells, thank you for coming on despite the difficult they are going through. -- all right, still to come, president biden heads to south carolina to commemorate the charleston church shooting at mother emmanuel ame church. just ahead, the sanctuaries

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>> attorney general crump -- go ahead, rowvaughn, i'm sorry. >> that would be the first thing that i would want him to address, is making police officers accountable for their actions. >> attorney general of black america crump, you and i have worked on many of these cases for a decade and a half together. what does justice look like? i mean, what do you want to see happen? you've been a gladiator on many of these cases. many that don't even hit the media. i think people think you get a lot of publicity, i get, but they don't realize the cases that never hit the press -- what do you want to see happen as we go into this election year that could be one of the things that the people running for congress, senate, and president have to address and commit to? >> yeah. and reverend al, it's hard to believe it's been a year. since we called you and asked

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because i don't have to tell you that many if not most of these people are never inclined to fight the power when a four unarmed black person is killed by a police or even civilians. but when it is a rich white republican former president with a history of subverting the law? they are ready to burn our legal system down. what is your thoughts, attorney crump? >> [silence] >> i think the mute -- you are on mute. they have been trying to meet you for the last decade, attorney crump, go ahead. >> [laughter] thank you, mentor. first of all, i want to say, we must commend american general merrick garland for having the courage to say nobody is above the law. and then as you and i, reverend, al isil gallantly across america to say that we can't have two justice systems in america. it has to be one justice system.

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>> miss dais, as attorney crump said, i will be there monday at the funeral to give a eulogy with your pastor and other ministers that will be there. one of the things that really struck me in our phone conversation is that you know have to relocate to raise those four grandchildren because you said that you don't want them to have to be in an environment that they are not used to. and the family that all has to readjust. and has to deal with these youngsters that are going to grow up having to deal with the guilt that we feel they should not feel. but israel to them. and the things that they are going to have to deal with. and you as a grandfather. wanting to have to be with them to pick up what your daughter would have haunted. a daughter that did, i was raised by a single mother. a doctor that did what too many people act like we don't do in a community. that is step up and take care of our kids. your daughter was an example of

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anybody who breaks the law should be held accountable even if there are a former president. >> this dais, i want to first reclaimed my condolences to your loss. i want to reemphasize to our audience that in addition to losing your daughter, aj, the thing that touched me when i spoke to you was attorney crump on the phone. her four children. you are grand children lost their mother just a week ago. for their mother standing up for them. it was gut-wrenching to hear you tell joy reid, my msnbc colleague here earlier this week that your two grandsons have been blaming themselves for what happened. the older being unable to save his mother, blaming himself. can you tell us how they are and you how you are and how you are holding up tonight. >> how are the kids holding up is, there is no words to

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racial language. and all your daughter did, their mother, is go to knock on the door and asked why do you keep doing this? what is going on? and she shot her through a locked door. >> yes. >> attorney crump, i have got to go back to you. susan was granted 150,000-dollar bond yesterday by marion county florida circuit judge. she has been charged with manslaughter with a firearm. affable negligence and two counts of assault and battery. earlier this week you commended the marion county sheriff's department for arresting susan lorincz after determining her actions were not justified under floater stand-your-ground. lawyer also called for charges against her to be upgraded to murder. and for county prosecutors to consider witness testimony, telling police that susan lorincz often used racial slurs as she harassed the grandchildren here of miss

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was granted bond last friday and his facing -- over what police witnesses say was a long-standing feud. over owens children. joining me now is separates attorney ben crump. representing the family of ajike owens. and with him, pamela dias -- her mother. attorney crump, miss dyess, thank you for being here -- before i get into the criminal charges -- i have to ask you, attorney general crump, what is your quick reaction to former president trump's second indictment in the double standard on display for trump and his supporters. including top republican lawmakers who insist that the former president is a victim of law enforcement being weaponized against him.

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ben crump, says if this does not happen, he plans to sue. >> what would that look like? what is the time line. >> attorney general crump would be suing alongside three other ap students. he says he worries this band could set a precedent across the south. this is something he's watching just not in florida but around the country, where we have seen policies like this targeting race, and sexuality. the intersection of capitol hill, that high-profile ticketmaster hearing on the hill after the taylor swift ticketing debacle and now there's question whether the new beyonce tour, as she's announcing the world tour, the first one in seven years, could be a similar frankly mess when it comes to getting tickets and being able to access them, what happens with the pre-sale, et cetera. lots more to come on that with lots of questions.

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